


June 10, 2010
More Scary News About Lead Levels in Wild Game
By Chad Love
The issue of fragmented lead from bullets in wild game and its potential toxicity to humans has been a contentious topic the past couple of years. But a recent European study suggests there might be something to it.
From this story on ScienceDaily:
Eating the meat of animals hunted using lead ammunition can be more dangerous for health than was previously thought, especially for children and people who consume large quantities. This is reflected in a study carried out by British and Spanish researchers that has been published by the journal PLos One. A team of scientists from the Wildfowl & Wetlands Trust (WWT), along with researchers from other British institutions and from the Spanish Research Institute on Cynegetic Resources (IREC in Spanish), has proven that the levels of lead in some game meat that has already been cooked exceed the maximum allowances set by the European Union, due to the presence of remains of ammunition.
"Depending on the species and type of recipe used, between 20 and 87.5% of the samples analysed exceeded the maximum level of lead set by the EU in meat from livestock animals of 100 parts per billion (0.1 mg/kg of the fresh weight of meat)," Rafael Mateo, co-author of the study and researcher for IREC (a joint centre composed of the University of Castilla-La Mancha, the Community Board of Castilla-La Mancha and the CSIC), indicated.
To carry out the study, published recently in the free access journal PLoS ONE, the researchers analysed the meat of six species of game birds (red partridge, pheasant, wood pigeon, grouse, woodcock and mallard) shot by hunters in the United Kingdom. "In Spain and other countries hunting is done in the same way and using the same ammunition, meaning that the issue with this type of contamination in meat is the same across the board," Mateo points out.
The pieces were x-rayed to detect the presence of pellets and minute fragments of lead. Afterwards, the pellets in the meat were cooked and removed, as we would normally do when eating. Finally, the concentration of the metal in the food was measured using atomic absorption spectroscopy.
"Although the levels set by the EU are for meat that is consumed more frequently than game, in species like the woodcock, 5.4% of the birds cooked displayed more than 10 mg/kg, which indicates that by eating 200g of this meat on a single occasion, the tolerable weekly intake of lead for a person weighing 80g could be exceeded," the researcher highlights.
The study concludes that the potential health risk of consuming game shot with lead could be greater than was thought up until now, especially for vulnerable groups like children and people who consume large quantities of this meat.
Another interesting finding of the study was that cooking meat with recipes containing vinegar actually increases the contamination by making the lead more easily absorbed.
Your thoughts?
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A person weighing 80 grams? I don't think so.
The 80 grams is probably a typo, but this whole project strikes me as researchers trying to build a case against lead ammo by trying to find the circumstances under which the lead concentration in game is the greatest and stretching their conditions for projecting total lead consumption to the extreme limits of credibility, if not beyond those limits.
I feel like the title of this article is somewhat misleading. When I hear the term "Wild Game" I don't immediately think about birds. It would have been good journalism to identify at the very beginning of the article what kind of wild game is being refered to. The recent debates here in MN involve deer shot with lead ammunition. There is a big difference between the two. Anyone who has ever spit lead pellets out of Pheasant knows there could be a chance of lead poisoning if you were to swallow too many (or any for that matter). To say 87.5% of the samples exceeded safe levels without identifying what kind of meat is being tested until the third paragraph is extremely poor journalism in my book.
The US Dept of Health and Human Services 2008 study after the Wisconsin food pantry scare disagrees. That study didn't find lead levels that exceeded legal limits. Honestly, unless you are a subsistence hunter, you've got nothing to worry about. The average hunter doesn't consume enough wild-lead shot game to make a difference.
Just remember, there are plenty of our Vets walking around with lead bullet fragments in their bodies that don't have, and never will have, lead poisioning as a result. Its all hype.
So you remove the lead bullets and shot before you cook it!
I can certainly understand how cooking meat with lead metal in it could have a higher toxicity (I cast bullets for my muzzleloaders) and marinating meat containing lead in any acidic marinade would certainly raise the lead content of the meat. I can't see however why the hindquarter of a deer shot in the heart/lungs would have any lead contamination whatsoever.
I would like to see a study (Is there one out there?) that tests Pb levels in humans who eat gun-taken wild game often, every once in a while, and never. Choose whatever time interval is best, and separate types of game and they're frequency of consumption. I think that would be more pertinent,and I would give it far more consideration. I mean, I don't see why we are looking at the meat when it is our Pb absorption that counts. Looking in wild game for lead levels is only scratching the surface. This smoke and mirrors crap with "lead fragments" and unidentified wild game is garbage.
AP
Here ya go. www.atsdr.cdc.gov/HAC/pha/LeadFragmentsinVenison/Venison%20and%20Lead%20...
Thanks Dann.
The romans used to add lead to their wine to make it sweeter. I don't know what the effects on the romans were but they seemed to have built a rather profound empire.
As for lead toxicity, chances are hunters consume more lead from handling ammunition and its components (if said hunter is a reloader/avid shooter) than through meat toxicity resulting from the remaining lead shot in the animal. Think about all that mess that gets on your hands when loading and reloading magazines at the range.
More of the same fear mongering to force an outcome against hunters... If you worry about lead shoot steel shot and copper bullets...
Beekeeper,
And the liberal beat goes on...drive away hunters. Use any means you can because the end justifies the means.
So when they suggested that lead in paint was making our children retards, was that an effort to ban painters?
Come on folks, quit jerking your knees at every perceived assault and take a closer look at the purpose of this research. It's not about banning hunting or indicting hunters. There's not even a hint of that suggestion in this piece. It's simply further evidence that maybe we should be taking a closer look at the food we're providing to our families.
Personally, I'm pretty unconcerned about the lead levels in the wild game I eat. I've been eating game meat my whole life... a good part of which occurred before the lead shot ban for waterfowl, and way before the CA lead ammo ban. But, in light of the research so far, I do think it's worth being a little cautious if we're feeding this stuff to small children or pregnant women.
Cautious doesn't mean throwing out all the lead ammo, by the way. It means trimming big game, plucking pellets out of birds and small game, and taking a little extra time to make sure we're keeping those little ones as healthy as possible.
Many of us have been demanding further research on the potential effects of lead ammo, because we need to know the facts. I believe the facts will help counter some of the anti-lead hype, but it's possible that those same facts may tell us a few things we really don't want to hear. At the very least, though, we're now empowered to make somewhat educated decisions.
I'm interested in this, for sure, since our family eats mostly deer, antelope and elk. I think the problem is overblown if- as was pointed out above- you are eating ham steaks cut from a deer shot in the heart.
Since we eat so much of it, we trim all our wild meat pretty carefully, and that entails gettig rid of all bloodshot meat for quite a ways around the wound channel. I'm not real concerned that there's too much lead in what we eat.
Birds, though, are different, and most times I find myself spitting out shot when we have pheasants or sharptails. If I ate as many as one of them a week, I'd be concerned, but I probably don't eat but ten or twelve a year. I always make soups with the carcasses, but by then, the meat is mostly stripped off and there's no shot in them.
With ducks, its all steel anyway. Maybe the answer is to go with bismuth on upland birds- anybody ever doen a study on eating bismuth?
Strange, isn't it, how living in civilization, with the increased life expectancy, makes all of these things so much more worrisome. If we were on the Plains in 1849, we'd just be glad to have a piece of meat to eat, and by the time we noticed that we were getting sick or stupid from lead poisoning, some wild man would come riding out from behind a rise and give us the real thing in a 500 grain round ball flying 1200 fps.
Hogblog,
I say studies like this will be used to further ban lead. My conservative state of Idaho has issued surveys that propose the notion lead could be banned for upland game birds. I hunt upland game in Idaho, and there is very, very little pressure in most of the upland game areas...lead on the ground that will be picked up and consumed? I see the movement, and this just further enhances it. In California, the anti hunters made the case that an endangered critter might consume a wounded bird that had lead in it, and die of lead poisoning!! I grew up around Lake Erie when tons of PCB's were put into the lake, and DTT was sprayed on the grain fields around my home...I'm an old dude, still livin, and the lake is cleaned up, and not an ecological, environmental disaster for centuries to come like it was portrayed. Lead sinkers being banned in rivers that the few that end up on the bottom get covered up by silt in short order?
Eat lead...helps to keep your feet on the ground during wind storms!!
most of my family members as well as myself have consumed large quantities of game shot with lead bullets,shot etc.
none of us have ever been diagnosed with any physical abnormality associated with lead.
the researchers who work on projects such as this need to
formulate an opinion that will justify their existance or no more research money will be forthcoming. i.e. no job.
many of these research projects are funded by anti-gun interests who use the results to further their own agendas.
take these findings for what they are worth...nothing.
off topic but i've wondered why f&s does'nt have a handgun feature? handgun hunting is a real sport. and the hunting handguns are fascinating. as is the art of reloading for handguns and casting bullets. how about it f&s? how about a handgun blogger?
So they cook and then remove the lead pellets from the meat. I've always removed the shot from the bird after cleaning it and before cooking it.
As long as we can "see through the smoke", make rational assessments of what we read and achieve consensus while doing so, let the scientists, backed by pro lead ban special intetests, ramble on. Our detractors say, "it's just anothet conspiracy theory," but we know better...it's not theory.
Never known of anyone in my area to get lead poisoning from wild game!
logan, I had a HS buddy that got a load of lead in his backside for stealing pumpkins once. and he never got poisoned. His ol man caused him a lot more harm.
Sayfu, thats hilarious. Funny the things we do when were young. (glad to hear he didn't get lead poisoning or worse)
so these scientists are just now worrying about eating meat from animals that were taken w/ lead shot after man's been hunting w/ lead bullets since...well, when the gun was invented? Has anyone ever heard reports of lead poisoning from all those generations between us and then? Cuz if yall had, i'd love to hear about em
That's is why you shoot behind the shoulder, or discard it. You can also cut around hit portions, but apparently bad science and poor research that is misleading is more common than sense.
I don't buy into this for one minute. It sounds like more junk science to prop-up some political agenda. If we were to find out whose funding the research and what their political agenda is I'm sure we would find that the results co-inside with their already preconceived notions.
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So when they suggested that lead in paint was making our children retards, was that an effort to ban painters?
Come on folks, quit jerking your knees at every perceived assault and take a closer look at the purpose of this research. It's not about banning hunting or indicting hunters. There's not even a hint of that suggestion in this piece. It's simply further evidence that maybe we should be taking a closer look at the food we're providing to our families.
Personally, I'm pretty unconcerned about the lead levels in the wild game I eat. I've been eating game meat my whole life... a good part of which occurred before the lead shot ban for waterfowl, and way before the CA lead ammo ban. But, in light of the research so far, I do think it's worth being a little cautious if we're feeding this stuff to small children or pregnant women.
Cautious doesn't mean throwing out all the lead ammo, by the way. It means trimming big game, plucking pellets out of birds and small game, and taking a little extra time to make sure we're keeping those little ones as healthy as possible.
Many of us have been demanding further research on the potential effects of lead ammo, because we need to know the facts. I believe the facts will help counter some of the anti-lead hype, but it's possible that those same facts may tell us a few things we really don't want to hear. At the very least, though, we're now empowered to make somewhat educated decisions.
I feel like the title of this article is somewhat misleading. When I hear the term "Wild Game" I don't immediately think about birds. It would have been good journalism to identify at the very beginning of the article what kind of wild game is being refered to. The recent debates here in MN involve deer shot with lead ammunition. There is a big difference between the two. Anyone who has ever spit lead pellets out of Pheasant knows there could be a chance of lead poisoning if you were to swallow too many (or any for that matter). To say 87.5% of the samples exceeded safe levels without identifying what kind of meat is being tested until the third paragraph is extremely poor journalism in my book.
I would like to see a study (Is there one out there?) that tests Pb levels in humans who eat gun-taken wild game often, every once in a while, and never. Choose whatever time interval is best, and separate types of game and they're frequency of consumption. I think that would be more pertinent,and I would give it far more consideration. I mean, I don't see why we are looking at the meat when it is our Pb absorption that counts. Looking in wild game for lead levels is only scratching the surface. This smoke and mirrors crap with "lead fragments" and unidentified wild game is garbage.
AP
Here ya go. www.atsdr.cdc.gov/HAC/pha/LeadFragmentsinVenison/Venison%20and%20Lead%20...
A person weighing 80 grams? I don't think so.
The 80 grams is probably a typo, but this whole project strikes me as researchers trying to build a case against lead ammo by trying to find the circumstances under which the lead concentration in game is the greatest and stretching their conditions for projecting total lead consumption to the extreme limits of credibility, if not beyond those limits.
The US Dept of Health and Human Services 2008 study after the Wisconsin food pantry scare disagrees. That study didn't find lead levels that exceeded legal limits. Honestly, unless you are a subsistence hunter, you've got nothing to worry about. The average hunter doesn't consume enough wild-lead shot game to make a difference.
Just remember, there are plenty of our Vets walking around with lead bullet fragments in their bodies that don't have, and never will have, lead poisioning as a result. Its all hype.
So you remove the lead bullets and shot before you cook it!
I can certainly understand how cooking meat with lead metal in it could have a higher toxicity (I cast bullets for my muzzleloaders) and marinating meat containing lead in any acidic marinade would certainly raise the lead content of the meat. I can't see however why the hindquarter of a deer shot in the heart/lungs would have any lead contamination whatsoever.
Thanks Dann.
The romans used to add lead to their wine to make it sweeter. I don't know what the effects on the romans were but they seemed to have built a rather profound empire.
As for lead toxicity, chances are hunters consume more lead from handling ammunition and its components (if said hunter is a reloader/avid shooter) than through meat toxicity resulting from the remaining lead shot in the animal. Think about all that mess that gets on your hands when loading and reloading magazines at the range.
More of the same fear mongering to force an outcome against hunters... If you worry about lead shoot steel shot and copper bullets...
Beekeeper,
And the liberal beat goes on...drive away hunters. Use any means you can because the end justifies the means.
I'm interested in this, for sure, since our family eats mostly deer, antelope and elk. I think the problem is overblown if- as was pointed out above- you are eating ham steaks cut from a deer shot in the heart.
Since we eat so much of it, we trim all our wild meat pretty carefully, and that entails gettig rid of all bloodshot meat for quite a ways around the wound channel. I'm not real concerned that there's too much lead in what we eat.
Birds, though, are different, and most times I find myself spitting out shot when we have pheasants or sharptails. If I ate as many as one of them a week, I'd be concerned, but I probably don't eat but ten or twelve a year. I always make soups with the carcasses, but by then, the meat is mostly stripped off and there's no shot in them.
With ducks, its all steel anyway. Maybe the answer is to go with bismuth on upland birds- anybody ever doen a study on eating bismuth?
Strange, isn't it, how living in civilization, with the increased life expectancy, makes all of these things so much more worrisome. If we were on the Plains in 1849, we'd just be glad to have a piece of meat to eat, and by the time we noticed that we were getting sick or stupid from lead poisoning, some wild man would come riding out from behind a rise and give us the real thing in a 500 grain round ball flying 1200 fps.
Hogblog,
I say studies like this will be used to further ban lead. My conservative state of Idaho has issued surveys that propose the notion lead could be banned for upland game birds. I hunt upland game in Idaho, and there is very, very little pressure in most of the upland game areas...lead on the ground that will be picked up and consumed? I see the movement, and this just further enhances it. In California, the anti hunters made the case that an endangered critter might consume a wounded bird that had lead in it, and die of lead poisoning!! I grew up around Lake Erie when tons of PCB's were put into the lake, and DTT was sprayed on the grain fields around my home...I'm an old dude, still livin, and the lake is cleaned up, and not an ecological, environmental disaster for centuries to come like it was portrayed. Lead sinkers being banned in rivers that the few that end up on the bottom get covered up by silt in short order?
Eat lead...helps to keep your feet on the ground during wind storms!!
off topic but i've wondered why f&s does'nt have a handgun feature? handgun hunting is a real sport. and the hunting handguns are fascinating. as is the art of reloading for handguns and casting bullets. how about it f&s? how about a handgun blogger?
As long as we can "see through the smoke", make rational assessments of what we read and achieve consensus while doing so, let the scientists, backed by pro lead ban special intetests, ramble on. Our detractors say, "it's just anothet conspiracy theory," but we know better...it's not theory.
Never known of anyone in my area to get lead poisoning from wild game!
logan, I had a HS buddy that got a load of lead in his backside for stealing pumpkins once. and he never got poisoned. His ol man caused him a lot more harm.
most of my family members as well as myself have consumed large quantities of game shot with lead bullets,shot etc.
none of us have ever been diagnosed with any physical abnormality associated with lead.
the researchers who work on projects such as this need to
formulate an opinion that will justify their existance or no more research money will be forthcoming. i.e. no job.
many of these research projects are funded by anti-gun interests who use the results to further their own agendas.
take these findings for what they are worth...nothing.
So they cook and then remove the lead pellets from the meat. I've always removed the shot from the bird after cleaning it and before cooking it.
Sayfu, thats hilarious. Funny the things we do when were young. (glad to hear he didn't get lead poisoning or worse)
so these scientists are just now worrying about eating meat from animals that were taken w/ lead shot after man's been hunting w/ lead bullets since...well, when the gun was invented? Has anyone ever heard reports of lead poisoning from all those generations between us and then? Cuz if yall had, i'd love to hear about em
That's is why you shoot behind the shoulder, or discard it. You can also cut around hit portions, but apparently bad science and poor research that is misleading is more common than sense.
I don't buy into this for one minute. It sounds like more junk science to prop-up some political agenda. If we were to find out whose funding the research and what their political agenda is I'm sure we would find that the results co-inside with their already preconceived notions.
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