


March 15, 2010
Petzal: How Work Affects Your Point of View
By David E. Petzal
It is a fact that your occupation can affect your mental processes. If you are a school administrator, for example, you lose any shards of common sense you might have brought to the job. Thus, in February, a 12-year-old New York City girl was led away from school in handcuffs after doodling on her desk in Magic Marker, and ended up in a police station.
Or, if you work for the TSA, you exist in an alternate universe. The all-time illustration of this came in 2002 when a collection of blue-shirted imbeciles in Phoneix Skyport detained Joe Foss because they thought the Medal of Honor in his pocket was a shuriken. Or, as a close second, there is the example of the disabled boy who was forbidden to walk through the metal detector in Philadelphia Airport unless he removed his leg braces. When his father, a Camden, NJ police officer, explained that his son could not walk without the braces, it made no difference. National security was at stake.
And now, we have our friends in the U.S. Customs and their pals in the ATF, who have impounded 30 M4-replica Airsoft rifles, claiming that they can be converted to real M4s. This story comes our way courtesy of reporter Bob Owens, and it has to be read in full to be appreciated. Go to it by clicking here, and if you don’t drink now, you will afterward.
Comments (72)
Lord help us
Thanks Dave. I'm trying to cut down & you go posting another story that makes beer for breakfast seem like a good idea. LOL Wait, what's that noise? I think ATF is raiding the toy store.
Hmm, coincidental that they are all government affiliates? More proof on how 'uniquely' our government runs things; better let em take over our health care too. Instead of getting metal detectors at the hospital they can save money by wheeling the X-Ray machines out from Radiology to the front lobby before you walk in to take your number just to make absolutely sure you're not packin'. Keep spending and raising our taxes and they won't even be able to hire anyone skilled enough to wheel it out!
Alright, my rant is over, I'm off to the Post Office because this is the only day I have 2 hours to wait in line...
Those crooked sob's probably needed the airsoft guns for training. Maybe they should have been included in the stimulus plan so they don't have to steal from others. No other explanation, anything else and they have no business working around any type of firearm. I'll have that drink now, thank you.
Quick, hide the water pistols--the feds are coming!
Your right. I'm pouring a glass of Wild Turkey, and that right soon.
some people take there job to serious
Using that argument, in my SUV I often have a short length of 1/2" steel pipe I occassionally use as a breaker bar, a hammer, and a pair of vice grips with which I could hold the pipe. I essentially have all the makings of a single shot .50 cal. ... I had no idea.
The world is such a dangerous place.
it just makes you feel so much safer knowing these mind numb twits are in charge of your safety dont it : (
I can understand that mistakes are occasionally made, and with national security I don't think airing on the side of caution is bad, but instead of trying to stick with the story and pretend to look like they never did anything wrong, why can't they be responsible and simply own up to their mistakes?
Go over to Fort Chaffee Arkansas and let them find a 22 in your ashtray or a empty shotgun shell under the seat and watch them freak out!
Year ago, the Rent A’ Cop at the Social Security building followed me out to my truck saying my cell phone was a gun!
Talk about mindless gnomes, these folks got the IQ of an Amoeba!
UHG! Fire bad, food good, UHG!
Back in 89 out Moose Hunting and found a dozen blasting caps lying in the middle of the ATV trail and the next day I turned it over to EOD Folks. They came into my office, I pointed at the ammo can with the blasting caps in it, they open opened it up, closed it and said thank you then later that day they brought my ammo can back. WHAT SERVICE!
Remember that one Air Marshal, although he had a handgun plus two magazines they confiscated his nail clippers!
Well, it proves the old adage that "stupid is universal."
My old Squadron Commander/Colonel told me not to worry or dwell on screw-ups like you described, DP. He said the "Other Side" is more incompetent than we are.
There is a street size mailbox like container in the airport in Cody, WY which is for the sole purpose of flyers to dispose of their bear pepper sprayers before they board the flight for home from a hunt in the Rockies. Keep in mind that these good hunters were encouraged to purchase a $50.00 bear sprayer prior to going to the hills on their hunt probably by an outfitter. Obviously most are never used and cannot be taken back on a commercial flight so in the box they go. This is most likely good for the local economy along with all the other money the visiting hunters spend for various purposes. What no one has ever been able to tell me is who eventually empties this large container and what happens to all of those perfectly good bear sprayers. I figure every other airport around the mountains in which grizzleys live has a similiar box so we are talking a considerable number of sprayers being left behind for someone.
The 'other side' has proven that they can fly some of the world's most sophiticated airplanes in a coordinated attack.
One of my old CO's told me that the biggest mistake you could ever make is underestimating your enemy. I don't think we needed Sun-Tsu to tell us that either.
For the government agencies responsible for our air safety I have only one comment: Have you taken a close look at the people working the TSA checkpoints for more than a couple of minutes? God help us all. It is only a matter of time....
The ATF? What a joke. They are one of the Alphabet Soup agencies that brought you Waco and Ruby Ridge.
Someone is not wanting to admit a mistake in fear of making themselves look stupid(er).
From my limited experience with the TSA I'd rather have the Boy Scouts in charge of national security. Regardless of the outcome at least they would be courteous.
It's truly saddening how far we have let our country get out-of-control.
Thank God they got these convertible toys before they got into the hands of kids whereupon BATF would deploy fully armed teams to confiscate these weapons of destruction door to door.
But wait! What about all those shipments that came before? Oh my, they are untraceable when purchased with cash. There must be panic within the government. Who's head will roll? Especially since Obama has made it clear that heads must roll.
Can't wait for Part II.
Dang, I'm underage. Next they'll be banning grape juice because it can be "illegally converted" to wine...
The Clay Cooper: I notice you wrote, correctly, that the blasting caps were lying, not laying, in the trail. That sort of thing is not tolerated on blogs. I will let you skate this once, but watch it.
what a bunch of idiots...
Hey, I'm still looking at those $150.00 plus pens with spell checker!
Anyone found one yet?
Darnit, I pulled the trigger to soon!
I said I can shoot not write, that's your job Dave! LMAO!!
MLH
I'm still waiting for David to come up with a do it all firearm that is handier than a Swiss Army Knife called the "TRANSFORMER!"
As Lewis Black once said "If you think about this for more than two seconds blood will shoot out your nose. Don't do it. Don't do it."
Hoplophobia, in conjunction with political correct dumbassery, once more runs amok. The U.S. Customs Service, in conjunction with the worst gang of jackbooted thugs in the Nation's history, has reacted with an equal mix of ignorance, political correctness, and downright stupidity. The BATFE, with predictable snapping turtle mentality, has seized WEAPONS, and once WEAPONS are seized, of course policy forbids you should ever give them back. True to their history of ineptitude, the Guvment got it wrong again.
Of course, the Totally Stupid Agency is so far down on the scale of incompetence, no one who is ever forced to fly needs reminding of how reactive, idiotic, and totally useless this so called Agency is. Boy Scouts? Hell’s Bells and little paychecks, I’d rather have the Keystone Kops and the Three Stooges at the airport check in. At the very least, they would be entertaining!
The comments I would like to print here would get me Banned for life from the blod. It suffices to say WTF?
blog!! sheesh!
WA Mtnhunter has a serious point!
The other side?
feels absolutely no pain!
Feels absolutely no heat or cold!
They want you dead PERIOD!
They are the perfect killing machine and they will pick there teeth with your bones!
And these are the same folks that say they can SAVE us money running healthcare!
Like Ralphie's Mom said:
"I still say you could shoot your eye out."
Do these stories really surprise anyone here?
The dumb leading the DUMBER! GOD HELP US ALL!!
I took my kid hunting because I thought He'd enjoy hunting. He did. I thought He would get some education about the environment. He did. It never occurred to me that, had I not introduced him to shooting sports, he would be lacking a vital part of a well-rounded education; knowing the difference between real guns and toy guns. Those agents must be wearing bags over their heads.
YooperJack
My Grandson Alex (age 10) teacher said there was no Elk in Arkansas. Following weekend, he counted well over 40 by Jasper over the mountain in the Buffalo River park area! Went back to school and politely corrected his teacher and not only that, teacher tried to make him look bad in front of the class. He asked the teacher what would happen if they stopped hunting and the results of the population explosion. I tell'ya, this kid knows his stuff and the teacher has backed off!
RJ Arena
Want to see Government run health care?
Look at the VA!
On the flip side of the coin when my son was in the seventh grade here in Wyoming, his principal killed a good 4 x 4 mulie. This administrator brought the deer into the gym, spread a tarp, and invited any student who wished to watch to join him so he could teach them how to properly gut, skin, and quarter a deer. He had quite a turnout of kids who wanted to learn and, no doubt, those who simply prefered to skip class.
Read the article and a few of the comments that followed. My favorite: "When toys are outlawed, only outlaws will have toys."
when they decided to re-invent the BATFE they forgot one critical part...DON'T DRINK THE BLUE STUFF!!! wait til i get ahold of my son's paint ball gun!!!
Another prime example of affirmative action at work. If it was not for the federal government employing the mentally handicapped the welfare roles would be even bigger.
My mother used to tell me that if I did not study and do well in school I would never get a good job and end up a ditch digger. Now I could tell her that I could also get a job working for the TSA, BATF, Census Bureau...etc.
JCB hit the nail on the head! Mental Defectives! I can't even see how you could chamber a .223 round in an Airsoft! I refuse to fly commercially these days because I choose not to suffer the fools in the TSA. I often wonder what criteria they use for hiring TSA people, It plainly doesn't include any person with "normal" intelligence.
Paranoia has done the country no good except to have accomplished the evil of giving manipulative controlling bozos power over other people.
Gun control is about paranoia, "Health" and "life" insurance are sold (and forced on us) with paranoia as the excuse. Zero tolerance policies are about paranoia as is half the politics in Washington. I will admit to being a Pollyanna Pessimist, but I try to keep the paranoid streak under control. Paranoia only makes people overreact, and then a body has to deal with the effects of overreaction- be that cover up, apologize or damage control. As a certain great Democrat said "the only thing we have to fear is fear itself". Paranoia is in essence a person lying to themself, and the consequences are the same. When self delusionary persons are confronted with the realities that contradict their fabricated world view they can only react in a limited number of ways. They can...
Deny the reality and dig their hole deeper,
Attack the messenger and dig their hole deeper,
Seek more data and reassess the issue
Accept the new input and change course (this is rare, because many refuse to accept that they could ever be wrong).
I see more individuals who by coersion or choice, use inflexible "policy" to make decisions rather than thing on their feet or adapt to varied situation. Strict adherance to "policy" decided anonymously in some boardroom by guys in suits turns people into Robots. I realize many prefer Robots to people, robots do exactly as they are told and require no benefits or human rights. But Society is made of People not machines, and turning people into robots, while convenient for corporate interests, is neither feasible nor desirable to most of the population. Robots are stupid and only do exactly as they are told, unless the person writing the programming is incompetent or has a hidden agenda. If America is falling from grace, it is due to the rise of the stupid, as Idiocracy rises to consume us all...
Hey, give the ATF a break. They don't know how to properly use guns (I'm thinking Ruby Ridge again) and don't think we should either. Sounds fair to me.
There is a saying, "good enough for Government work".
Explains it all.
Amflyer
Do a little research on the government sniper who killed Ms. Weaver at Ruby Ridge and see if we should "give them (feds) a break".
Not surprising at all. This ranks right up there with Nancy Pelosi saying we need to pass the health care bill so we will know what is in it. Having a double digit IQ above 20 has never been a requirement for government service. The ATF has had a god like arbitrary power for way too long. Vote new people in next November and demonstrate for a restructuring or elimination of the ATF
This is pathetic; embarrassing for a country like the U.S. We are slowly sliding down to the level of a third world country.
i am not so sure that it is where you work, as it is having enough common sense to blow your own brains out when you get this stupid. some of the idiots that are in so called "position of power" should simply be carted off and shot. comon sense testing should be a part of every job application. and those without any, or have a limited amount, should be kept in the mail room, to open packages from the next unabomber.
Actually, WA, that's what I was talking about. If you've read any of Colonel Cooper's commentaries, you know that he was not about to let you forget who LH was or the fact that he was still a free man.
Last I've heard, there was even some question about his involvement at Waco. I'm not much for conspiracy theories et. al., but I do know who he is.
I remember the TSA incident with Joe Foss, and I marvel that anyone can reach adulthood in this country without recognizing a Medal of Honor.
I was not particularly surprised when I departed Chicago's O'Hare Airport in early October and the Twin-Track razor in my shaving kit was examined as a suspicious item. Most of my razors, like this one, have no moving parts and, while I freely admit my safety razors have drawn (my) blood while shaving before that first morning cup of coffee, I had to wonder why the young lady opened my shaving kit and couldn't figure it out. Truly, if this is a cross-section of America's security team, we are in dire straits.
Amflyer
We are in total agreement! I, too, am not a conspiracy theorist, but I learned a long time ago that damn little happens by coincidence....
b/r
WMH
A few years ago (the week of a a big security alert) I lost my cell phone on a domestic flight in the US, having endured the 'not my job to help you' rudeness of the first two tiers of airline staff i escalated the complaint to the most senior member of the airlines staff in the airport that day.
He told me to my face
"I barely have enough staff to get the next plane off the runway, let alone search it or find the cell phone you left under a seat"
Corporate interest will override national security every day. But Whoa! Something must be 'seen' to be done. So everyone must take off their shoes before getting on a plane. Doh!
SBW
I'm going to Denver end of the month for my Mom's knee rerplacement. it's a 1200 mile drive from where I live in Bowling Green Oh. Be damned if I'll fly. Got a hip replacement 3 years ago and it's no fun getting frisked and felt up. I'll just kick back in the Wrangler and enjoy the ride. If I can drive, I'll never fly and deal with all those morons. Plus with a ccw, i can carry. It's a bummer that Colo doesn't recognize Oh. but I'll take the chance
Ok, I got this figured out... They haven't had any headlines lately to scare everyone into a frenzy about terrorism, so they have come up with something they are hoping will freak everyone out. Seriously? Airsoft? "You'll shoot your eye out!"-A Christmas Carol. If thats the concern, we might as well start confiscating pocket knives, fountain pens, and while we're at it, sporks!
Suberban Bushwhacker, when I can't find my cell phone I have someone call the number and when it rings EUREKA! Found phone, next time try it.
I suppose my incident was more serious. I had one of those keychains that has a pin through the primer hole of a "bullet" to hold it on a ring. I was almost detained before just throwing it into a trashcan.
It is time to fire these idiots...even the top one.
Astonishing that these pencil-necked paper-pushing cross-eyed sons of b***hes can find their d**** in the lavatory without the help of a nurse.
Don't hold back, Mike. Tell us how you really feel!
b/r
WMH
Don't get me started on TSA! I frequently fly from Hartsfield in Atlanta, the busiest airport in the world. On a recent trip to Ireland and England my wife and I reenterd the country and did not see one natural born citizen of the US working customs or TSA on incoming international flights. Why do we have immigrants working in and apparantly running this system? Especially ones who can't speak the king's english! The people were extremely surly as well for they knew if you so much as looked at them wrong they could send you to the "yellow room" for a little fun and games.
I was once forced to go behind the blue curtain by TSA when the sniffer detected fertilizer on my shoes. Sans shoes I was ushered behind the curtain and asked to drop my trowsers while two fellows ran a metal detector in and out of my pants legs, over my groin and up my shirt. The same folks brought a lady behind the curtain with me and asked her to open her blouse so that they could examine her bra and run the dectector over her chest. I guess under wires are a case for national panic. Tears streamed from her eyes from the embarrassment as she complied. I looked the other way as the men, yes men had their way. As we left the strip search facility I urged her to file a complaint, she said she just wanted to get home...
We pay these blithering idiots squat and expect primo individuals to carry out a dull and thankless task. Most of the people who apply are "frustrated police" types who couldn't make dog catcher or garbage inspector. They will not admit a mistake and will quickly use the threat of detainment. Give an idiot a stick an he thinks he has carte blanche to beat you with it....
There are worse places though, a group of colleagues recently went to Honduras on a businees trip where male and females alike were asked to assume the position and were padded down by Honduran military men before boarding the plane. They didn't have metal detectors. The ladies said the fellows certainly seemed to enjoy thier job...
Someone once said: "Hell is the absence of reason."
JCB +1 for'ya!!
I was told for this Nations tests for job placement, companies look for those scoring at 60%.
GOD HELP US!
http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/genjoin/a/asvabminimum.htm
Cannon fodder minimum scores.
TSA is probably lower than that.
It's mt opinion that ALL GOV. is out of control and did not start with OBAMA, it just picked up steam.
Having been detained by a foreign "security agency" on a particular occasion, I can qualify our TSA goons as being rank amateurs at the grammar school level of tyranny and imagination.
Unrelated point: Never f*** with German BGS folks over there. Our Border Patrol could take lessons.
Don't blame TSA stupidity on Obama, The whole TSA bulldada is Dubya's thing,
I notice that often employers will hire a stupid but PC person over a smart person who might think on their feet too much for their comfort.
Now that the Roberts court has ruled that corporations really do have more rights than human beings, you can expect things to get worse not better, at least until that SCOTUS ruling is supplanted by new law. Roberts, a corporate lawyer should have recused himself on that issue, but instead he only showed us how blatant corporate hegemony really is. We need the rights of actual human beings reaffirmed, Letting soulless, greedy, multinational, immortal corporations have whatever they want can only condemn the rest of us to slavery under corporate rule. Anybody who would want that would have to be a fascist or completely out of their mind. Earth is for People.
I used to turn to the comics page when I wanted my laugh for the day. Now I turn to the front page.
This isn't even the stupidest thing that's happened lately. Check this out:
http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2010/03/ionia_kindergar...
For those of you who do not go to the link, it tells about a six year old boy who pointed his finger at another kid during recess and said, "Bang, bang" or something equally deadly. The kid was suspended. The school is not apologizing.
And some of you wonder why us religious types call these the 'Last Days.'
YooperJack,
As always I agree with you. Glad your kid likes the outdoors, that's good stuff.
Every profession has 10% that know their stuff inside and out, 10% that are too incompetent to even pick up dog stuff from a yard and the rest are pretty ordinary folks doing decent work. The bottom 10% always make the news.
Gov't will mess around ordinary folks by red tape and trying to keep too many masters happy, private enterprise will mess around ordinary folks by greed and dog eat dog. Found good and bad in both areas.
I feel so much safer now! It's a great relief to know that we can still get geniuses for what we pay our TSA and ATF!
How does work as an outdoor/gun writer affect your view of the world?
workmandave
Did you used to write for a Washington hook and bullet rag? Just curious.
Petzal: Congratulations on winning the Gresham Award. I have thought long and hard and can't come up with a more worthy recepient. It good to see your talent and ability to combine our hobby and interests into your work as a unique wordsmith suitably acknowledged.
Congratulations Dave. And the picture of you in this months magazine is very good. I hope to meet you some day and shake your hand.
That's a bit of bizarre news for the day, I'm not sure what all the fuss is about replica sport toys that shoot plastic bb's. They're designed to be inoperable if they were modified. This is also a great website that can inform parents about the proper rules and regulations and responsibilities of buying airsoft guns for their kids is Airsplat.com . They’re a great resource for how to play, a national listing of playing fields, and proper use and law enforcement regulations regarding these. They also sell airsoft items at the best prices around. Check them out at www.Airsplat.com
WOW! Just when you think the Gov't could not get any more dumber! First it was Root beer in beer style bottles that were taken away (because we all wanted a ready available 16 oz. home brew right), then it was the candy cigarettes (since its a well known fact that our parents ate there cigs ater they smoked them, right?)....so of course the toy guns are next. Way to go ATF!!! No wonder the Army has to re-vamp their training in boot camp. We're taking anything away that would help our youth grow up. All that stuff never hurt us. We start trying to regulate all this crap that isn't broke, and this is is what happens.
That's quite unbelievable, I believe airsoft guns are even capable of being converted to shoot real bullets. This is also a great website that can inform parents about the proper rules and regulations and responsibilities of buying airsoft guns for their kids is Airsplat.com . They’re a great resource for how to play, a national listing of playing fields, and proper use and law enforcement regulations regarding these. They also sell airsoft items at the best prices around. Check them out at www.Airsplat.com
in the immortal words of pogo possum:" we have met the enemy and he is us "
idiots.
Ok, I don't think that you can really take an airsoft gun into an M4. It's not like someone is taking my AK74 airsoft gun and turning it into an AK47. It's pretty lame that TSA can do stupid stuff like demand that a kid take off his leg braces because he's disabled. That's not even humane.
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Dang, I'm underage. Next they'll be banning grape juice because it can be "illegally converted" to wine...
Read the article and a few of the comments that followed. My favorite: "When toys are outlawed, only outlaws will have toys."
Quick, hide the water pistols--the feds are coming!
Hmm, coincidental that they are all government affiliates? More proof on how 'uniquely' our government runs things; better let em take over our health care too. Instead of getting metal detectors at the hospital they can save money by wheeling the X-Ray machines out from Radiology to the front lobby before you walk in to take your number just to make absolutely sure you're not packin'. Keep spending and raising our taxes and they won't even be able to hire anyone skilled enough to wheel it out!
Alright, my rant is over, I'm off to the Post Office because this is the only day I have 2 hours to wait in line...
My old Squadron Commander/Colonel told me not to worry or dwell on screw-ups like you described, DP. He said the "Other Side" is more incompetent than we are.
Another prime example of affirmative action at work. If it was not for the federal government employing the mentally handicapped the welfare roles would be even bigger.
My mother used to tell me that if I did not study and do well in school I would never get a good job and end up a ditch digger. Now I could tell her that I could also get a job working for the TSA, BATF, Census Bureau...etc.
Not surprising at all. This ranks right up there with Nancy Pelosi saying we need to pass the health care bill so we will know what is in it. Having a double digit IQ above 20 has never been a requirement for government service. The ATF has had a god like arbitrary power for way too long. Vote new people in next November and demonstrate for a restructuring or elimination of the ATF
This is pathetic; embarrassing for a country like the U.S. We are slowly sliding down to the level of a third world country.
Astonishing that these pencil-necked paper-pushing cross-eyed sons of b***hes can find their d**** in the lavatory without the help of a nurse.
Lord help us
Thanks Dave. I'm trying to cut down & you go posting another story that makes beer for breakfast seem like a good idea. LOL Wait, what's that noise? I think ATF is raiding the toy store.
Your right. I'm pouring a glass of Wild Turkey, and that right soon.
it just makes you feel so much safer knowing these mind numb twits are in charge of your safety dont it : (
Well, it proves the old adage that "stupid is universal."
Someone is not wanting to admit a mistake in fear of making themselves look stupid(er).
From my limited experience with the TSA I'd rather have the Boy Scouts in charge of national security. Regardless of the outcome at least they would be courteous.
Do these stories really surprise anyone here?
The dumb leading the DUMBER! GOD HELP US ALL!!
when they decided to re-invent the BATFE they forgot one critical part...DON'T DRINK THE BLUE STUFF!!! wait til i get ahold of my son's paint ball gun!!!
I remember the TSA incident with Joe Foss, and I marvel that anyone can reach adulthood in this country without recognizing a Medal of Honor.
I was not particularly surprised when I departed Chicago's O'Hare Airport in early October and the Twin-Track razor in my shaving kit was examined as a suspicious item. Most of my razors, like this one, have no moving parts and, while I freely admit my safety razors have drawn (my) blood while shaving before that first morning cup of coffee, I had to wonder why the young lady opened my shaving kit and couldn't figure it out. Truly, if this is a cross-section of America's security team, we are in dire straits.
It is time to fire these idiots...even the top one.
Don't get me started on TSA! I frequently fly from Hartsfield in Atlanta, the busiest airport in the world. On a recent trip to Ireland and England my wife and I reenterd the country and did not see one natural born citizen of the US working customs or TSA on incoming international flights. Why do we have immigrants working in and apparantly running this system? Especially ones who can't speak the king's english! The people were extremely surly as well for they knew if you so much as looked at them wrong they could send you to the "yellow room" for a little fun and games.
I was once forced to go behind the blue curtain by TSA when the sniffer detected fertilizer on my shoes. Sans shoes I was ushered behind the curtain and asked to drop my trowsers while two fellows ran a metal detector in and out of my pants legs, over my groin and up my shirt. The same folks brought a lady behind the curtain with me and asked her to open her blouse so that they could examine her bra and run the dectector over her chest. I guess under wires are a case for national panic. Tears streamed from her eyes from the embarrassment as she complied. I looked the other way as the men, yes men had their way. As we left the strip search facility I urged her to file a complaint, she said she just wanted to get home...
We pay these blithering idiots squat and expect primo individuals to carry out a dull and thankless task. Most of the people who apply are "frustrated police" types who couldn't make dog catcher or garbage inspector. They will not admit a mistake and will quickly use the threat of detainment. Give an idiot a stick an he thinks he has carte blanche to beat you with it....
There are worse places though, a group of colleagues recently went to Honduras on a businees trip where male and females alike were asked to assume the position and were padded down by Honduran military men before boarding the plane. They didn't have metal detectors. The ladies said the fellows certainly seemed to enjoy thier job...
Those crooked sob's probably needed the airsoft guns for training. Maybe they should have been included in the stimulus plan so they don't have to steal from others. No other explanation, anything else and they have no business working around any type of firearm. I'll have that drink now, thank you.
some people take there job to serious
Using that argument, in my SUV I often have a short length of 1/2" steel pipe I occassionally use as a breaker bar, a hammer, and a pair of vice grips with which I could hold the pipe. I essentially have all the makings of a single shot .50 cal. ... I had no idea.
The world is such a dangerous place.
I can understand that mistakes are occasionally made, and with national security I don't think airing on the side of caution is bad, but instead of trying to stick with the story and pretend to look like they never did anything wrong, why can't they be responsible and simply own up to their mistakes?
It's truly saddening how far we have let our country get out-of-control.
Thank God they got these convertible toys before they got into the hands of kids whereupon BATF would deploy fully armed teams to confiscate these weapons of destruction door to door.
But wait! What about all those shipments that came before? Oh my, they are untraceable when purchased with cash. There must be panic within the government. Who's head will roll? Especially since Obama has made it clear that heads must roll.
Can't wait for Part II.
The Clay Cooper: I notice you wrote, correctly, that the blasting caps were lying, not laying, in the trail. That sort of thing is not tolerated on blogs. I will let you skate this once, but watch it.
Hoplophobia, in conjunction with political correct dumbassery, once more runs amok. The U.S. Customs Service, in conjunction with the worst gang of jackbooted thugs in the Nation's history, has reacted with an equal mix of ignorance, political correctness, and downright stupidity. The BATFE, with predictable snapping turtle mentality, has seized WEAPONS, and once WEAPONS are seized, of course policy forbids you should ever give them back. True to their history of ineptitude, the Guvment got it wrong again.
Of course, the Totally Stupid Agency is so far down on the scale of incompetence, no one who is ever forced to fly needs reminding of how reactive, idiotic, and totally useless this so called Agency is. Boy Scouts? Hell’s Bells and little paychecks, I’d rather have the Keystone Kops and the Three Stooges at the airport check in. At the very least, they would be entertaining!
Like Ralphie's Mom said:
"I still say you could shoot your eye out."
I took my kid hunting because I thought He'd enjoy hunting. He did. I thought He would get some education about the environment. He did. It never occurred to me that, had I not introduced him to shooting sports, he would be lacking a vital part of a well-rounded education; knowing the difference between real guns and toy guns. Those agents must be wearing bags over their heads.
On the flip side of the coin when my son was in the seventh grade here in Wyoming, his principal killed a good 4 x 4 mulie. This administrator brought the deer into the gym, spread a tarp, and invited any student who wished to watch to join him so he could teach them how to properly gut, skin, and quarter a deer. He had quite a turnout of kids who wanted to learn and, no doubt, those who simply prefered to skip class.
JCB hit the nail on the head! Mental Defectives! I can't even see how you could chamber a .223 round in an Airsoft! I refuse to fly commercially these days because I choose not to suffer the fools in the TSA. I often wonder what criteria they use for hiring TSA people, It plainly doesn't include any person with "normal" intelligence.
Paranoia has done the country no good except to have accomplished the evil of giving manipulative controlling bozos power over other people.
Gun control is about paranoia, "Health" and "life" insurance are sold (and forced on us) with paranoia as the excuse. Zero tolerance policies are about paranoia as is half the politics in Washington. I will admit to being a Pollyanna Pessimist, but I try to keep the paranoid streak under control. Paranoia only makes people overreact, and then a body has to deal with the effects of overreaction- be that cover up, apologize or damage control. As a certain great Democrat said "the only thing we have to fear is fear itself". Paranoia is in essence a person lying to themself, and the consequences are the same. When self delusionary persons are confronted with the realities that contradict their fabricated world view they can only react in a limited number of ways. They can...
Deny the reality and dig their hole deeper,
Attack the messenger and dig their hole deeper,
Seek more data and reassess the issue
Accept the new input and change course (this is rare, because many refuse to accept that they could ever be wrong).
I see more individuals who by coersion or choice, use inflexible "policy" to make decisions rather than thing on their feet or adapt to varied situation. Strict adherance to "policy" decided anonymously in some boardroom by guys in suits turns people into Robots. I realize many prefer Robots to people, robots do exactly as they are told and require no benefits or human rights. But Society is made of People not machines, and turning people into robots, while convenient for corporate interests, is neither feasible nor desirable to most of the population. Robots are stupid and only do exactly as they are told, unless the person writing the programming is incompetent or has a hidden agenda. If America is falling from grace, it is due to the rise of the stupid, as Idiocracy rises to consume us all...
Hey, give the ATF a break. They don't know how to properly use guns (I'm thinking Ruby Ridge again) and don't think we should either. Sounds fair to me.
There is a saying, "good enough for Government work".
Explains it all.
Actually, WA, that's what I was talking about. If you've read any of Colonel Cooper's commentaries, you know that he was not about to let you forget who LH was or the fact that he was still a free man.
Last I've heard, there was even some question about his involvement at Waco. I'm not much for conspiracy theories et. al., but I do know who he is.
A few years ago (the week of a a big security alert) I lost my cell phone on a domestic flight in the US, having endured the 'not my job to help you' rudeness of the first two tiers of airline staff i escalated the complaint to the most senior member of the airlines staff in the airport that day.
He told me to my face
"I barely have enough staff to get the next plane off the runway, let alone search it or find the cell phone you left under a seat"
Corporate interest will override national security every day. But Whoa! Something must be 'seen' to be done. So everyone must take off their shoes before getting on a plane. Doh!
SBW
I'm going to Denver end of the month for my Mom's knee rerplacement. it's a 1200 mile drive from where I live in Bowling Green Oh. Be damned if I'll fly. Got a hip replacement 3 years ago and it's no fun getting frisked and felt up. I'll just kick back in the Wrangler and enjoy the ride. If I can drive, I'll never fly and deal with all those morons. Plus with a ccw, i can carry. It's a bummer that Colo doesn't recognize Oh. but I'll take the chance
I suppose my incident was more serious. I had one of those keychains that has a pin through the primer hole of a "bullet" to hold it on a ring. I was almost detained before just throwing it into a trashcan.
Someone once said: "Hell is the absence of reason."
It's mt opinion that ALL GOV. is out of control and did not start with OBAMA, it just picked up steam.
Petzal: Congratulations on winning the Gresham Award. I have thought long and hard and can't come up with a more worthy recepient. It good to see your talent and ability to combine our hobby and interests into your work as a unique wordsmith suitably acknowledged.
Go over to Fort Chaffee Arkansas and let them find a 22 in your ashtray or a empty shotgun shell under the seat and watch them freak out!
Year ago, the Rent A’ Cop at the Social Security building followed me out to my truck saying my cell phone was a gun!
Talk about mindless gnomes, these folks got the IQ of an Amoeba!
UHG! Fire bad, food good, UHG!
Back in 89 out Moose Hunting and found a dozen blasting caps lying in the middle of the ATV trail and the next day I turned it over to EOD Folks. They came into my office, I pointed at the ammo can with the blasting caps in it, they open opened it up, closed it and said thank you then later that day they brought my ammo can back. WHAT SERVICE!
Remember that one Air Marshal, although he had a handgun plus two magazines they confiscated his nail clippers!
There is a street size mailbox like container in the airport in Cody, WY which is for the sole purpose of flyers to dispose of their bear pepper sprayers before they board the flight for home from a hunt in the Rockies. Keep in mind that these good hunters were encouraged to purchase a $50.00 bear sprayer prior to going to the hills on their hunt probably by an outfitter. Obviously most are never used and cannot be taken back on a commercial flight so in the box they go. This is most likely good for the local economy along with all the other money the visiting hunters spend for various purposes. What no one has ever been able to tell me is who eventually empties this large container and what happens to all of those perfectly good bear sprayers. I figure every other airport around the mountains in which grizzleys live has a similiar box so we are talking a considerable number of sprayers being left behind for someone.
The 'other side' has proven that they can fly some of the world's most sophiticated airplanes in a coordinated attack.
One of my old CO's told me that the biggest mistake you could ever make is underestimating your enemy. I don't think we needed Sun-Tsu to tell us that either.
For the government agencies responsible for our air safety I have only one comment: Have you taken a close look at the people working the TSA checkpoints for more than a couple of minutes? God help us all. It is only a matter of time....
The ATF? What a joke. They are one of the Alphabet Soup agencies that brought you Waco and Ruby Ridge.
what a bunch of idiots...
Hey, I'm still looking at those $150.00 plus pens with spell checker!
Anyone found one yet?
Darnit, I pulled the trigger to soon!
I said I can shoot not write, that's your job Dave! LMAO!!
MLH
I'm still waiting for David to come up with a do it all firearm that is handier than a Swiss Army Knife called the "TRANSFORMER!"
As Lewis Black once said "If you think about this for more than two seconds blood will shoot out your nose. Don't do it. Don't do it."
The comments I would like to print here would get me Banned for life from the blod. It suffices to say WTF?
blog!! sheesh!
WA Mtnhunter has a serious point!
The other side?
feels absolutely no pain!
Feels absolutely no heat or cold!
They want you dead PERIOD!
They are the perfect killing machine and they will pick there teeth with your bones!
And these are the same folks that say they can SAVE us money running healthcare!
YooperJack
My Grandson Alex (age 10) teacher said there was no Elk in Arkansas. Following weekend, he counted well over 40 by Jasper over the mountain in the Buffalo River park area! Went back to school and politely corrected his teacher and not only that, teacher tried to make him look bad in front of the class. He asked the teacher what would happen if they stopped hunting and the results of the population explosion. I tell'ya, this kid knows his stuff and the teacher has backed off!
RJ Arena
Want to see Government run health care?
Look at the VA!
Amflyer
Do a little research on the government sniper who killed Ms. Weaver at Ruby Ridge and see if we should "give them (feds) a break".
i am not so sure that it is where you work, as it is having enough common sense to blow your own brains out when you get this stupid. some of the idiots that are in so called "position of power" should simply be carted off and shot. comon sense testing should be a part of every job application. and those without any, or have a limited amount, should be kept in the mail room, to open packages from the next unabomber.
Amflyer
We are in total agreement! I, too, am not a conspiracy theorist, but I learned a long time ago that damn little happens by coincidence....
b/r
WMH
Ok, I got this figured out... They haven't had any headlines lately to scare everyone into a frenzy about terrorism, so they have come up with something they are hoping will freak everyone out. Seriously? Airsoft? "You'll shoot your eye out!"-A Christmas Carol. If thats the concern, we might as well start confiscating pocket knives, fountain pens, and while we're at it, sporks!
Suberban Bushwhacker, when I can't find my cell phone I have someone call the number and when it rings EUREKA! Found phone, next time try it.
Don't hold back, Mike. Tell us how you really feel!
b/r
WMH
JCB +1 for'ya!!
I was told for this Nations tests for job placement, companies look for those scoring at 60%.
GOD HELP US!
TSA is probably lower than that.
Having been detained by a foreign "security agency" on a particular occasion, I can qualify our TSA goons as being rank amateurs at the grammar school level of tyranny and imagination.
Unrelated point: Never f*** with German BGS folks over there. Our Border Patrol could take lessons.
I used to turn to the comics page when I wanted my laugh for the day. Now I turn to the front page.
This isn't even the stupidest thing that's happened lately. Check this out:
http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2010/03/ionia_kindergar...
For those of you who do not go to the link, it tells about a six year old boy who pointed his finger at another kid during recess and said, "Bang, bang" or something equally deadly. The kid was suspended. The school is not apologizing.
And some of you wonder why us religious types call these the 'Last Days.'
YooperJack,
As always I agree with you. Glad your kid likes the outdoors, that's good stuff.
Every profession has 10% that know their stuff inside and out, 10% that are too incompetent to even pick up dog stuff from a yard and the rest are pretty ordinary folks doing decent work. The bottom 10% always make the news.
Gov't will mess around ordinary folks by red tape and trying to keep too many masters happy, private enterprise will mess around ordinary folks by greed and dog eat dog. Found good and bad in both areas.
I feel so much safer now! It's a great relief to know that we can still get geniuses for what we pay our TSA and ATF!
workmandave
Did you used to write for a Washington hook and bullet rag? Just curious.
Congratulations Dave. And the picture of you in this months magazine is very good. I hope to meet you some day and shake your hand.
idiots.
http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/genjoin/a/asvabminimum.htm
Cannon fodder minimum scores.
Don't blame TSA stupidity on Obama, The whole TSA bulldada is Dubya's thing,
I notice that often employers will hire a stupid but PC person over a smart person who might think on their feet too much for their comfort.
Now that the Roberts court has ruled that corporations really do have more rights than human beings, you can expect things to get worse not better, at least until that SCOTUS ruling is supplanted by new law. Roberts, a corporate lawyer should have recused himself on that issue, but instead he only showed us how blatant corporate hegemony really is. We need the rights of actual human beings reaffirmed, Letting soulless, greedy, multinational, immortal corporations have whatever they want can only condemn the rest of us to slavery under corporate rule. Anybody who would want that would have to be a fascist or completely out of their mind. Earth is for People.
That's a bit of bizarre news for the day, I'm not sure what all the fuss is about replica sport toys that shoot plastic bb's. They're designed to be inoperable if they were modified. This is also a great website that can inform parents about the proper rules and regulations and responsibilities of buying airsoft guns for their kids is Airsplat.com . They’re a great resource for how to play, a national listing of playing fields, and proper use and law enforcement regulations regarding these. They also sell airsoft items at the best prices around. Check them out at www.Airsplat.com
WOW! Just when you think the Gov't could not get any more dumber! First it was Root beer in beer style bottles that were taken away (because we all wanted a ready available 16 oz. home brew right), then it was the candy cigarettes (since its a well known fact that our parents ate there cigs ater they smoked them, right?)....so of course the toy guns are next. Way to go ATF!!! No wonder the Army has to re-vamp their training in boot camp. We're taking anything away that would help our youth grow up. All that stuff never hurt us. We start trying to regulate all this crap that isn't broke, and this is is what happens.
That's quite unbelievable, I believe airsoft guns are even capable of being converted to shoot real bullets. This is also a great website that can inform parents about the proper rules and regulations and responsibilities of buying airsoft guns for their kids is Airsplat.com . They’re a great resource for how to play, a national listing of playing fields, and proper use and law enforcement regulations regarding these. They also sell airsoft items at the best prices around. Check them out at www.Airsplat.com
in the immortal words of pogo possum:" we have met the enemy and he is us "
Ok, I don't think that you can really take an airsoft gun into an M4. It's not like someone is taking my AK74 airsoft gun and turning it into an AK47. It's pretty lame that TSA can do stupid stuff like demand that a kid take off his leg braces because he's disabled. That's not even humane.
How does work as an outdoor/gun writer affect your view of the world?
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