


November 11, 2010
On 10/22 Conversions
by Phil Bourjaily
A lot of people have 10/22s that look nothing like they did when they came out of the box. Mine for instance, has a heavy barrel, a black synthetic stock and a Timney trigger. It shoots better than a factory gun, but it is still recognizable as a 10/22. These two 10/22s most certainly are not recognizable. One is air-cooled, the other water (actually anti-freeze) cooled. Each of these conversion kits holds a stock (well stock, but stockless) 10/22 inside. The crank is a BMF trigger activator, legal everywhere but California and Minnesota. The guns have a 50-round magazine – the ammo in the belts is there only for show. As you can see, it doesn’t take long to empty either one.
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Would be great if you are about to be attacked by a marauding pack of prairie dogs.
I had a tricked out 10-22, had to sell it recently (muhfunzalow again).
While the 10-22 is a great gun, I think the "machine gun" conversions are kinda silly and maybe a little misleading and dangerous. I have also seen a conversion that will make your Ruger look like a German MG34,I can't think of anything more likely to get the SWAT team called than playing with a toy that looks like a machine gun, but isn't quite. If one has an avocation for aimlessly expending .22 long rifle ammo, go have fun.
I would think that if a guy was in to WWII recreations, one still wouldn't want to mount such on your jeep or half track, because such organizations tend to frown on actual live fire during re-enactments, even if those .22s are gonna bounce right off your carefully restored Hetzer or your PZKW III.
In the end the only function such a thing as a watercooled, crank fired .22 "machine gun" is goofin' off at the range, which may be fun, but in the end is kinda pointless. Nice job of fabrication though.
Not that I don't have silly things that go bang (like my golf ball mortar), but I don't think such has the capacity to make the LEO's nervous like a fake machine gun that actually shoots.
Yes -- just the thing to have in the event that swarms of really mean and nasty squirrels begin their long awaited assault on the human race.
Pointless. Someone has too much time and money on their hands.
It is/was his project and I say more power to him. It is a great piece of construction. I also say the heck w/ignorant (in the true non-demeaning form of the word) LEO's and BATFE agents. It is a legal firearm unless one lives in Kalifornia or Minnesota. It is my personal opinion that enforcers of our laws have a greater responsibility to know and understand the law than the average citizen. Remember it's Protect and SERVE.
BTW I say Protect and Serve as a former LEO.
I like my ruger 10/22 the way it is, seems like a wast of money and a good gun to this to it.
Regaurdless of how pointless it is, it is still cool. Mall ninja or not. And here in Texas most LEO's would think it's cool and ask to shoot it if they crossed it at the range. And what firearm wont get the SWAT guys and gals called on you in commiefornia or other states that have that "Black guns are scarry" or "if it only holds 10 rounds it won't hurt anyone" mentality. And I come from a Law enforcement family and grew up with LEO's. So I say let him go and build his look alike machine gun because he wants to and that's fine by me.
That will bust a brick in hurry!
WHAT'DA'HAY!
Little bit of innovation and good cheap fun!
I'm still waiting on the rail gun!
Man am I tired of some of you couch potato gun enthusiasts. I guess thats what I get on the internet but minus one for anyone who said pointless or swat team and "dangerous". I bet everyone on here owns guns that are only range worthy and today is the day set aside for folks who gave you the right to own such firearms. It looked like they had fun and it was a great video very entertaining with the music and all. You folks think you are gun advocates but I am tired of hearing your anti gun rhetoric. Because that is what you are spouting whether you know it or not. They will take your firearms that you say aren't pointless or useful for the exact same reasons you are spouting. Here they showed some fun, safe ways of enjoying our freedom and your bad mouthing it. Shame on you.
Not meant for you Phil keep up the good work I love these posts. We need an entrance exam to be called a GUN NUT. Might weed out the people who don't seem to even understand the title.
Not meant for you Phil keep up the good work I love these posts. We need an entrance exam to be called a GUN NUT. Might weed out the people who don't seem to even understand the title.
Not meant for you Phil keep up the good work I love these posts. We need an entrance exam to be called a GUN NUT. Might weed out the people who don't seem to even understand the title.
Not meant for you Phil keep up the good work I love these posts. We need an entrance exam to be called a GUN NUT. Might weed out the people who don't seem to even understand the title.
Not meant for you Phil keep up the good work I love these posts. We need an entrance exam to be called a GUN NUT. Might weed out the people who don't seem to even understand the title.
That is exactley what I was driving at guncrazy74. And I did forget something that you reminded me of. Thank you to all that have served this country, we all owe you more thanks than can ever be said or typed.
Yeah sorry Big Country I think we were writing at the same time. And sorry for multiple posts folks not my intention. But most of all Thank You to my fellow Vets. Especially those who aren't here to celebrate. To be truthful thats what got me going. Not today. I just can't listen to it today.
A lot cheaper fun than full-auto 50s and 308s!!!
Cheaper - not necessarily better. Get at least two of each!
While this looks like a new idea, it is not. During WWII the U.S. Army used a modified .30 caliber Browning machine gun to train soldiers. David Williams came up with the modifications to allow the machine gun to fire .22 long rifle shells in full automatic mode.
Good for an early morning smile.
home defense at its finest! even the kids could defend the home with one of those.
I applaud the man.
I think some of us might be a little jealous of his talents.
If that's his pleasure, then we sould all back him and each other in our needs and wants.
Here, one of our own do a little tinkering to keep his grin on and some us only peck'in the keys to sh1t on his efforts ? You funk'ink gutless, motherless, sniveling, wetazz, pieces of dried up monkey spunk ! Nice work as those ole Tippman mini's were a little pricy but very nice. Sometime I run foul when some positive things could be said or NOTHING, then a poor mother unknowingly give birth to one of these gauwdless types and that mom kept tell'in them how cute they were... if she had only stopped when they were 30 yrs old ? forgive me father
kinda cool. Looks almost steampunk!
I tricked out a 10/22. Right up to the point where I realized that except for careful handling it was only a target gun. Ruger puts a barrel band on em to keep the barrel from distorting the receiver to which the barrel is clamped. You clamp a heavy barrel on that aluminum receiver and you can ruin it in a big hurry with a little careless handling.
Thanks but no thanks I lost a good portion of my hearing shooting the real things in the U.S. Army.
You can get a BMF Activator (wonder what that stands for? Bad Mo Fo?) for $20 from Cabela's today... http://www.cabelas.com/fryprod2-1/707343.shtml?type=product&WT_tsrc=CSE&...
It is a crank you attach to your 10/22 trigger and when you turn it, it is fast. Very fast. I was acquainted with one probably 25 years ago and all it does is spit out shells at an alarming rate. That was why you needed several 50 round clips loaded in advance. It is a nice toy if you want to burn out barrels. And when I had one .22's were $5 a brick...
On the other hand if I had never tried the BMF Activator I would buy one for $20 and crank out a few bricks in my stock 10/22. Not build a machine gun out of one...
i wahnt to try that my cousin did somthing lik ethat and his step dad said well if you kill sombody with it ill get arester because i got the stuff cant wait to see that rifle!
I think it's pretty cool, I've always wanted to take a 10/22 and put a heavy target barrel on it, a black houge stock, 100 round magazine, and full auto conversion just for the heck of it.
The article got one thing wrong. It ISN'T stockless.
The faux receiver that holds the factory Ruger receiver, IS THE STOCK. It is the supporting structure that holds the barreled receiver. It is approx 29 & 1/2 inches long from spade dowels to barrel muzzle.And that is NOT counting the flash hider. The barrel is over 16 inches long. So not only is it legal in all respects to own without any registration, it also, under the law of what comprises a stock, does indeed have a stock. Also, it is designed to be attached to a tripod. And under the law, when so attached, that tripod ALSO becomes part of the stock. The article only showed my earlier first two prototypes. I have an almost completed 3rd prototype that is completely redesigned and totally different in design from my first two prototypes. It may resemble them some, but that is all. It is a completely different design in that it is easily convertible in about 30 seconds or less, from being truly water cooled, to being an air cooled model.
Here's a link to view my latest 3rd prototype. And as I stated above, it ALSO has a stock, which is the supporting structure for the barreled receiver, and it also is designed to fit onto a tripod which when so attached, becomes part of the stock. Here's the link...
http://www.southernoutdoorlife.com/showthread.php?p=65324#post65324
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I admire the capabilities for the guy that built it but don't want one for myself. I like 10-22's in their original form.
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Man am I tired of some of you couch potato gun enthusiasts. I guess thats what I get on the internet but minus one for anyone who said pointless or swat team and "dangerous". I bet everyone on here owns guns that are only range worthy and today is the day set aside for folks who gave you the right to own such firearms. It looked like they had fun and it was a great video very entertaining with the music and all. You folks think you are gun advocates but I am tired of hearing your anti gun rhetoric. Because that is what you are spouting whether you know it or not. They will take your firearms that you say aren't pointless or useful for the exact same reasons you are spouting. Here they showed some fun, safe ways of enjoying our freedom and your bad mouthing it. Shame on you.
It is/was his project and I say more power to him. It is a great piece of construction. I also say the heck w/ignorant (in the true non-demeaning form of the word) LEO's and BATFE agents. It is a legal firearm unless one lives in Kalifornia or Minnesota. It is my personal opinion that enforcers of our laws have a greater responsibility to know and understand the law than the average citizen. Remember it's Protect and SERVE.
Regaurdless of how pointless it is, it is still cool. Mall ninja or not. And here in Texas most LEO's would think it's cool and ask to shoot it if they crossed it at the range. And what firearm wont get the SWAT guys and gals called on you in commiefornia or other states that have that "Black guns are scarry" or "if it only holds 10 rounds it won't hurt anyone" mentality. And I come from a Law enforcement family and grew up with LEO's. So I say let him go and build his look alike machine gun because he wants to and that's fine by me.
WHAT'DA'HAY!
Little bit of innovation and good cheap fun!
I'm still waiting on the rail gun!
Yes -- just the thing to have in the event that swarms of really mean and nasty squirrels begin their long awaited assault on the human race.
Would be great if you are about to be attacked by a marauding pack of prairie dogs.
BTW I say Protect and Serve as a former LEO.
That will bust a brick in hurry!
home defense at its finest! even the kids could defend the home with one of those.
I tricked out a 10/22. Right up to the point where I realized that except for careful handling it was only a target gun. Ruger puts a barrel band on em to keep the barrel from distorting the receiver to which the barrel is clamped. You clamp a heavy barrel on that aluminum receiver and you can ruin it in a big hurry with a little careless handling.
Not meant for you Phil keep up the good work I love these posts. We need an entrance exam to be called a GUN NUT. Might weed out the people who don't seem to even understand the title.
Not meant for you Phil keep up the good work I love these posts. We need an entrance exam to be called a GUN NUT. Might weed out the people who don't seem to even understand the title.
Not meant for you Phil keep up the good work I love these posts. We need an entrance exam to be called a GUN NUT. Might weed out the people who don't seem to even understand the title.
That is exactley what I was driving at guncrazy74. And I did forget something that you reminded me of. Thank you to all that have served this country, we all owe you more thanks than can ever be said or typed.
Yeah sorry Big Country I think we were writing at the same time. And sorry for multiple posts folks not my intention. But most of all Thank You to my fellow Vets. Especially those who aren't here to celebrate. To be truthful thats what got me going. Not today. I just can't listen to it today.
A lot cheaper fun than full-auto 50s and 308s!!!
Cheaper - not necessarily better. Get at least two of each!
While this looks like a new idea, it is not. During WWII the U.S. Army used a modified .30 caliber Browning machine gun to train soldiers. David Williams came up with the modifications to allow the machine gun to fire .22 long rifle shells in full automatic mode.
Good for an early morning smile.
I applaud the man.
I think some of us might be a little jealous of his talents.
If that's his pleasure, then we sould all back him and each other in our needs and wants.
Here, one of our own do a little tinkering to keep his grin on and some us only peck'in the keys to sh1t on his efforts ? You funk'ink gutless, motherless, sniveling, wetazz, pieces of dried up monkey spunk ! Nice work as those ole Tippman mini's were a little pricy but very nice. Sometime I run foul when some positive things could be said or NOTHING, then a poor mother unknowingly give birth to one of these gauwdless types and that mom kept tell'in them how cute they were... if she had only stopped when they were 30 yrs old ? forgive me father
kinda cool. Looks almost steampunk!
Thanks but no thanks I lost a good portion of my hearing shooting the real things in the U.S. Army.
You can get a BMF Activator (wonder what that stands for? Bad Mo Fo?) for $20 from Cabela's today... http://www.cabelas.com/fryprod2-1/707343.shtml?type=product&WT_tsrc=CSE&...
It is a crank you attach to your 10/22 trigger and when you turn it, it is fast. Very fast. I was acquainted with one probably 25 years ago and all it does is spit out shells at an alarming rate. That was why you needed several 50 round clips loaded in advance. It is a nice toy if you want to burn out barrels. And when I had one .22's were $5 a brick...
On the other hand if I had never tried the BMF Activator I would buy one for $20 and crank out a few bricks in my stock 10/22. Not build a machine gun out of one...
I think it's pretty cool, I've always wanted to take a 10/22 and put a heavy target barrel on it, a black houge stock, 100 round magazine, and full auto conversion just for the heck of it.
The article got one thing wrong. It ISN'T stockless.
The faux receiver that holds the factory Ruger receiver, IS THE STOCK. It is the supporting structure that holds the barreled receiver. It is approx 29 & 1/2 inches long from spade dowels to barrel muzzle.And that is NOT counting the flash hider. The barrel is over 16 inches long. So not only is it legal in all respects to own without any registration, it also, under the law of what comprises a stock, does indeed have a stock. Also, it is designed to be attached to a tripod. And under the law, when so attached, that tripod ALSO becomes part of the stock. The article only showed my earlier first two prototypes. I have an almost completed 3rd prototype that is completely redesigned and totally different in design from my first two prototypes. It may resemble them some, but that is all. It is a completely different design in that it is easily convertible in about 30 seconds or less, from being truly water cooled, to being an air cooled model.
Here's a link to view my latest 3rd prototype. And as I stated above, it ALSO has a stock, which is the supporting structure for the barreled receiver, and it also is designed to fit onto a tripod which when so attached, becomes part of the stock. Here's the link...
http://www.southernoutdoorlife.com/showthread.php?p=65324#post65324
.
Pointless. Someone has too much time and money on their hands.
I like my ruger 10/22 the way it is, seems like a wast of money and a good gun to this to it.
Not meant for you Phil keep up the good work I love these posts. We need an entrance exam to be called a GUN NUT. Might weed out the people who don't seem to even understand the title.
Not meant for you Phil keep up the good work I love these posts. We need an entrance exam to be called a GUN NUT. Might weed out the people who don't seem to even understand the title.
i wahnt to try that my cousin did somthing lik ethat and his step dad said well if you kill sombody with it ill get arester because i got the stuff cant wait to see that rifle!
I admire the capabilities for the guy that built it but don't want one for myself. I like 10-22's in their original form.
I had a tricked out 10-22, had to sell it recently (muhfunzalow again).
While the 10-22 is a great gun, I think the "machine gun" conversions are kinda silly and maybe a little misleading and dangerous. I have also seen a conversion that will make your Ruger look like a German MG34,I can't think of anything more likely to get the SWAT team called than playing with a toy that looks like a machine gun, but isn't quite. If one has an avocation for aimlessly expending .22 long rifle ammo, go have fun.
I would think that if a guy was in to WWII recreations, one still wouldn't want to mount such on your jeep or half track, because such organizations tend to frown on actual live fire during re-enactments, even if those .22s are gonna bounce right off your carefully restored Hetzer or your PZKW III.
In the end the only function such a thing as a watercooled, crank fired .22 "machine gun" is goofin' off at the range, which may be fun, but in the end is kinda pointless. Nice job of fabrication though.
Not that I don't have silly things that go bang (like my golf ball mortar), but I don't think such has the capacity to make the LEO's nervous like a fake machine gun that actually shoots.
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