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July 15, 2009

Reel Dumb Advice...

By Kirk Deeter

You're with a few friends on the water...

You hook a fish, and inevitably, within a few seconds, someone instinctively shouts:

"Get 'em on the reel!  Get 'em on the reel!"

A word of advice: Blow that off.  In some situations, that is the dumbest advice you can get.  You might disagree with me, but here's my reasoning...

First and foremost, as my guide friend Peter Fallon explained as we were fishing for stripers in Maine yesterday (more on a great day later):  "Any fish that deserves to be fought on a reel will eventually find its way to the reel anyway."  True enough.  Any fish that pulls hard enough to show you the benefit of a disc drag reel is going to take care of that slack issue for you...

That said, I've also seen hundreds of fish punted, which might otherwise have been caught, when the angler is goofing around trying to crank line onto a reel while the rod has no flex... all because some knucklehead, somewhere in the past told them that when they hook a fish--any fish--their priority should be to get it on the reel.

I don't know where that started... probably with some reel maker.  I wish it would stop.  Some fish are meant to be fought on the reel, and others are not... at least it shouldn't be a priority.

The "reel" best advice I can give in this regard is that your priority concern after hooking up should be to keep the rod flexed in a consistent arc in all cases.  If you can do that and have a straight connection between the reel and the fish, great.  Of course.  That's the best scenario.

But sometimes fish run at you, and sometimes they're too small for the reel.  Maintain a steady flex, a "C" shape in the fly rod, and you'll land the fish more often than not.  Rod goes flat (too much resistance) you break... rod loses flex (no resistance) fish spits the hook.

It's all about the arc.  It's not about the reel.

Now, I could tell you what prompted me to think about this little lesson, but it just might involve this guy I know (ahem), who should have known better, but listened to alittle voice in his head say "get 'em on the reel!" and booted a nice striper off the beach this morning, but I'm not going there...

Deeter

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from micropterus wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

I must be dumb, I can't quite figure out what "get 'em on the reel" means.

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from Del in KS wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

Get 'em on the reel? I'm 59 been fishing for 53 years and can't remember ever hearing that phrase. But then I don't do musch fly fishing. Tried to tie a fly once. Couldn't get a rope on the critter let alone tie him up.

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from Del in KS wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

Oops! that's much fly fishing. heh,heh.

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from ejunk wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

"I don't know where that started... probably with some reel maker."

hahahahahahaha

yrs-
Evan!

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from steve182 wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

Wear some earplugs maybe

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from 2Poppa wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

S-O-O-O ... what does it mean,get 'em on the reel?

No slack?

I've heard,"Hook It,or Set The Hook!"

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from kirkdeeter wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

Get em on the reel means do all you can to take all the slack out of the line... with the reel. Crank in all the slack... my point being that it's better to strip line and keep tension on a fly rod, than to fumble for the reel.

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from vince wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

I completely agree Deeter. But the one downside with fish pulling out a bunch of slack line is that it tends to flop around, and can get wrapped around the reel seat or reel handle. I lost a big 'bow to this mistake last week. Especially Rio lines - I love them, but they are so supple they knot really easily.

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from vtbluegrass wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

Amen brother. A fishing buddy of mine who is more afflicted than I with the flyfishing addiction suffers from this get'em on the reel mentality. I can't tell you how many speckled trout I have seen lost due to slack line. I mean seriously a 14-16in speckled trout on 8lb tippet can be manhandled. I switch between conventional and fly tackle so maybe I have a different mentality on how to play a fish than some dedicated fly anglers. I am of the haul them to the boat hard and fast as is allowed by the size of the fish and strength of the line, probably because I grew up a bass fisherman.

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from tobewan77 wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

"bunch of slack line is that it tends to flop around, and can get wrapped around the reel seat or reel handle"

This is one reason i don't understand the almost universal love of uplocking reel seats, those stubs out the back of the reel of a tendency to grab all sorts of things.

I agree completely about line and the reel, and also why i don't understand everything moving to complex disc drag setups. Sorry, but my 4 weight rod does not need a disc drag reel. Love the old click n pawls.

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from Koldkut wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

The reel is overrated unless the fish gets you there in style.

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from imtheredguy wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

Its kind of silly to say stuff like that. I taught my wife to fish last year and i asked her what she was going to do when she hooked a fish. Her response "get the slack in". i don't know any angler who would not instinctively "get em' on the reel"

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from MLH wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

Flyfisherman strip line in and let it float in the water, or gather at their feet, in their hands, or in a stripping basket. If I had to reel the line in with every cast I would have given up the method. Sometimes there can be 10s of yards of slack line just stacked up waiting to be tangled or cast.

When a small fish strikes we can usually just work the line back in with our fingers and bring the fish to hand. A big fish, however, is likely to just strip the line right through your fingers until all the slack is gone and you are on the reel, and on the drag, with it singing ... clicking, actually. Most of the time you just have to know when to just let the line slip through your fingers to keep from breaking off. When you start cranking to get the fish on the reel you risk creating slack or sudden drag when the slack runs out. Both are bad.

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from muskiemaster wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

So, what I think your saying is that instead of reeling in all the slack line right away you should keep your hand on the line and feed it out instead of right away starting to reel in the slack and the fish.

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from FloridaHunter1226 wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

Never heard of the term before but then again I don't really fly fish so that could be good reasoning for my poor fly fishing dictionary.

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from Koldkut wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

Imtheredguy, just like Kirk said, fight the fish with the rod not the reel, keep enough tension on the line to keep the fight on instead of doing the "stylish" thing(borderline eleitist) where you put the fish on the reel. I only use the reel if the fish takes what line I have out, even if it's one yard of slack line, I'll just fight the fish, let the line pile up in front of me or on the water and just deal with it if it becomes an issue.

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from whitewatermel wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

Deter, You nailed it. Many years ago I fell for "get it on the reel" more than once. And I still hear from time to time today when I'm fortunate to have a fish on.

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from whitewatermel wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

Deter, You nailed it. Many years ago I fell for "get it on the reel" more than once. And I still hear from time to time today when I'm fortunate to have a fish on.

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from MB915 wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

I used to "get it on the reel" when I was first introduced to fly fishing. But my buddy quickly scolded me and pointed out it was pointless. Especially since i am normally fishing in smaller streams for trout that are not huge. As I have become more profiecient, I actually tend to enjoy getting the fish to me by fighting it with just the line and not having to use the reel.

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from Flyartist wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

All well and fine, but try land a 10# bone off the reel. And By the way all that slack line laying around you feet...you better have a plan on how to deal with it mucho pronto or Mr Bone will take care of it for you.

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from ryanjameshurd wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

Let them take you to reel.

I think it goes along with the minimalist attitude of fishing on the fly. No unnecessary gear, no unnecessary movement, keeping it as simple as possible.

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from buckhunter wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

Looks like I missed a good topic while I was out of town but I'll still give my 2 cents worth.

A fly reel holds your line so it can be easily stripped while casting. On a rare occasion the reel drag might be needed for a large fish running off line ( I still perfer to palm the spool) but I mainly use the drag to keep out backlash when stripping quickly. Other than that fly reels really are not effective tools to reel in fish.

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from kirkdeeter wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

Get em on the reel means do all you can to take all the slack out of the line... with the reel. Crank in all the slack... my point being that it's better to strip line and keep tension on a fly rod, than to fumble for the reel.

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from 2Poppa wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

S-O-O-O ... what does it mean,get 'em on the reel?

No slack?

I've heard,"Hook It,or Set The Hook!"

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from MLH wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

Flyfisherman strip line in and let it float in the water, or gather at their feet, in their hands, or in a stripping basket. If I had to reel the line in with every cast I would have given up the method. Sometimes there can be 10s of yards of slack line just stacked up waiting to be tangled or cast.

When a small fish strikes we can usually just work the line back in with our fingers and bring the fish to hand. A big fish, however, is likely to just strip the line right through your fingers until all the slack is gone and you are on the reel, and on the drag, with it singing ... clicking, actually. Most of the time you just have to know when to just let the line slip through your fingers to keep from breaking off. When you start cranking to get the fish on the reel you risk creating slack or sudden drag when the slack runs out. Both are bad.

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from Del in KS wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

Get 'em on the reel? I'm 59 been fishing for 53 years and can't remember ever hearing that phrase. But then I don't do musch fly fishing. Tried to tie a fly once. Couldn't get a rope on the critter let alone tie him up.

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from ejunk wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

"I don't know where that started... probably with some reel maker."

hahahahahahaha

yrs-
Evan!

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from vtbluegrass wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

Amen brother. A fishing buddy of mine who is more afflicted than I with the flyfishing addiction suffers from this get'em on the reel mentality. I can't tell you how many speckled trout I have seen lost due to slack line. I mean seriously a 14-16in speckled trout on 8lb tippet can be manhandled. I switch between conventional and fly tackle so maybe I have a different mentality on how to play a fish than some dedicated fly anglers. I am of the haul them to the boat hard and fast as is allowed by the size of the fish and strength of the line, probably because I grew up a bass fisherman.

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from tobewan77 wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

"bunch of slack line is that it tends to flop around, and can get wrapped around the reel seat or reel handle"

This is one reason i don't understand the almost universal love of uplocking reel seats, those stubs out the back of the reel of a tendency to grab all sorts of things.

I agree completely about line and the reel, and also why i don't understand everything moving to complex disc drag setups. Sorry, but my 4 weight rod does not need a disc drag reel. Love the old click n pawls.

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from MB915 wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

I used to "get it on the reel" when I was first introduced to fly fishing. But my buddy quickly scolded me and pointed out it was pointless. Especially since i am normally fishing in smaller streams for trout that are not huge. As I have become more profiecient, I actually tend to enjoy getting the fish to me by fighting it with just the line and not having to use the reel.

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from ryanjameshurd wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

Let them take you to reel.

I think it goes along with the minimalist attitude of fishing on the fly. No unnecessary gear, no unnecessary movement, keeping it as simple as possible.

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from micropterus wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

I must be dumb, I can't quite figure out what "get 'em on the reel" means.

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from Del in KS wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

Oops! that's much fly fishing. heh,heh.

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from steve182 wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

Wear some earplugs maybe

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from vince wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

I completely agree Deeter. But the one downside with fish pulling out a bunch of slack line is that it tends to flop around, and can get wrapped around the reel seat or reel handle. I lost a big 'bow to this mistake last week. Especially Rio lines - I love them, but they are so supple they knot really easily.

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from Koldkut wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

The reel is overrated unless the fish gets you there in style.

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from muskiemaster wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

So, what I think your saying is that instead of reeling in all the slack line right away you should keep your hand on the line and feed it out instead of right away starting to reel in the slack and the fish.

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from FloridaHunter1226 wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

Never heard of the term before but then again I don't really fly fish so that could be good reasoning for my poor fly fishing dictionary.

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from Koldkut wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

Imtheredguy, just like Kirk said, fight the fish with the rod not the reel, keep enough tension on the line to keep the fight on instead of doing the "stylish" thing(borderline eleitist) where you put the fish on the reel. I only use the reel if the fish takes what line I have out, even if it's one yard of slack line, I'll just fight the fish, let the line pile up in front of me or on the water and just deal with it if it becomes an issue.

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from whitewatermel wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

Deter, You nailed it. Many years ago I fell for "get it on the reel" more than once. And I still hear from time to time today when I'm fortunate to have a fish on.

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from whitewatermel wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

Deter, You nailed it. Many years ago I fell for "get it on the reel" more than once. And I still hear from time to time today when I'm fortunate to have a fish on.

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from buckhunter wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

Looks like I missed a good topic while I was out of town but I'll still give my 2 cents worth.

A fly reel holds your line so it can be easily stripped while casting. On a rare occasion the reel drag might be needed for a large fish running off line ( I still perfer to palm the spool) but I mainly use the drag to keep out backlash when stripping quickly. Other than that fly reels really are not effective tools to reel in fish.

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from imtheredguy wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

Its kind of silly to say stuff like that. I taught my wife to fish last year and i asked her what she was going to do when she hooked a fish. Her response "get the slack in". i don't know any angler who would not instinctively "get em' on the reel"

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from Flyartist wrote 2 years 44 weeks ago

All well and fine, but try land a 10# bone off the reel. And By the way all that slack line laying around you feet...you better have a plan on how to deal with it mucho pronto or Mr Bone will take care of it for you.

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