


February 13, 2009
Chad Love: Rove Tweets Hunting
Twitter distinguishes itself as perhaps the most useless and annoying communications and/or media technology ever invented and a shining example of why the written word as humans used to know and appreciate it is as doomed as the Attwater's Prairie Chicken.
But the now-ubiquitous 140-character-max micro-blogging format is apparently here to stay and I'm sure the 140-character magazine feature story will soon become industry standard. In the meantime most people use Twitter to broadcast -- in real-time -- every mundane detail of their lives.
For example, just the other day I was thinking to myself "I wonder what Turd Blossom is up to these days?" And Lo, my question was answered.
From the story:
One of the most interesting developments to come from the expanded use of Twitter are the surprising personalities who have embraced the microblogging service. One of those would have to be "The Architect" (and current Fox News contributor) Karl Rove.
Rove is a fairly active tweeter, and during a Texas hunting trip this week made use of the service (as well as TwitPic). The image on the right is of Rove and FOX News Sunday anchor Chris Wallace. Someone joked about why Dick Cheney wasn't involved — "I look forward to my next hunt with him," replied Rove.
There was a good discussion a couple weeks back about the lack of upland hunting and gun dog stories in F&S. Maybe the magazine should get in touch with Karl Rove. I doubt he trains his own dogs (if he owns any) and I'd bet my worn-out game vest that shotgun of his has never killed a public-land commoner's quail, but at least he'd nail the word-count limit on his stories.
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Don't sit on the fence Chad, tell us how you really feel
Cheers
SBW (64)
Technology finds a way into every situation, even in the outdoors.
You may not like his politics, you may not like the way he hunts, and you may not like him personally but I for one will take a hunting politician that is pro gun over some left wing anti gun politician any day.
I'm with Jay on this one.
Don
Chad, I have a roll of T.P. if you need it.
Don
Jay, what's your point? I didn't think Chad was coming out in support of the Brady Bunch here.
Rove belongs in jail for numerous crimes against democracy. I don't care if he does Twitter, although I consider him a twit. I am also a gun lover as much as anybody else (except for assault weapons, which are solely for killing people). I am ALSO A "LEFT- WINGER" I don't support banning all guns, just military assault rifles and submachine guns. I resent the notion that because I dispise people like Rove, who would manipulate our system to insure the preeminence of the corporate class at the expense of the middle class and the poor. The hypocracy of the right wing astounds me sometimes, like when after 8 years of humungous deficits and a mass transfer of wealth to the upper 1% of the population they claim that the stimulous package will cause deficit spending! Hello! What were they doing for 8 years? They claim Obama is using "fear mongering"! Hello! what about that rationale for this useless war they got us into? They want tax cuts! Obvously they want deficits because they don't want to pay their share of the bills they ran up. The right doesn't deserve to call itself conservative any more after the Bush years, nothing has been conserved! Reactionaries maybe...Fascists certainly.
Rove committed crimes, he and his cronies should be put in nice secure dark holes where they can contemplate the people who died because of their greed and malfeasance. Roves "outing" of Valery Plame was ab federal crime and he should go to Leavenworth for it. Hunting? Felons don't deserve the priviledge of bearing arms. Bearing arms is the perogative of law abiding people in a free society. Our country is much less free since Bush and his "brain" Carl Rove, the assault on our right to privacy is only one aspect of their war on democracy. (or do you all assume your cell phone confersations are secure?) Lock 'em all up! Those who prate about freedom while kidnapping innocent people off the streets and locking them up in concentrationschlagers don't deserve freedom themselves!
Bella
Since you are a self proclaimed Left Winger, I salute you for at least admitting it! However, as usual, you liberals mix the facts with your fictional rhetoric.
Military "assault weapons" by definition are automatic weapons, not autoloading like most sporting arms. Show me one "Assault weapon" in it's non-sporting version that does not have a full-auto mode?
Submachineguns and ful auto weapons are already banned except by special permits and tax by the BATF. I have not heard of a crime perpetrated by a legally permitted automatic weapon.
So you already have your wish: assualt weapons and submachineguns area already effectively banned from sale and possession to the public.
Karl Rove does not have exclusive claim to criminal activity. Just check out Obama's nominees records....Ooops!
Ooops to me! Need a spellchecker!
Now, now Bella. Back away from the edge of the building....slowly, slowly. Your people will get their turn to destroy the portions of the constitution they want to in due time. Right now they are busy bankrupting the futures of my children.
I really do not think F&S would be well served by having Mr. Rove in their magazine. Or Cheney, or (insert famous person here). As Chad has indicated, the vast majority do not hunt. They go out and shoot. There is a subtle yet enormous difference. "Hunting" for these people never is bad, at least from a game population standpoint. The only part of the hunt that might be bad is their aim that day. No sense of joy from a great point by a dog you trained yourself that will go home that night and lay down on the floor by your kids, no connection to the land. Just come in, get me on birds, let me shoot every thing in the air with feathers, then get me back to the lodge for drinks and a gourmet meal. The part that tears me is people like this are who I have to "want" in government as they are the closest things to "sportspeople" that will do anything to protect my interests. Leaves me feeling a bit dirty.
WA Mthunter:
Yup, simply enforce the ones on the books. Seems pretty simple to me too, but you'll never convince "others" of that!!
Bella, you may "love guns" but it's painfully obvious you don't know a whole lot about them. You say assault weapons are solely for killing people and need to be banned. First, can you even define assault weapon? I suspect you are using that term in reference to semi-automatic look alike weapons such as the AR-15 and AK series knock-offs, which as another poster has already explained to you ARE NOT ASSAULT WEAPONS. In addition, these types of firearms are wildly popular among lawful firearm enthusiasts, are no more deadly than any other centerfire rifle, and are rarely used in crimes. Why then would you wish to ban them? Second, my detachable magazine equipped SKS has never killed someone. Neither has my brother's M4. Neither have millions of other legally owned "assault rifles" By your logic they must all be defective, right? In all seriousness, every firearm ever made has the capacity to kill a man, but its purpose is determined by the man or woman pulling the trigger. Perhaps next time you post on firearms you could have a clue what you are talking about and use logic rather than rely on histrionics gleaned from the folks at the Brady Campaign?
Hokay, Firstly I like the whole constitution, all of it, I am not aware of any other liberal minded folk who might approve of redacting our constitution. And your children were being being bankrupted when Halliburton got it's first no-bid contract to go over budget on the war (thank you Darth Cheney). To my mind it would be politicians who come up with "signing statements" detailing how a sitting president plans to ignore the law, who want to distroy our constitution. Then there is the Habias Corpus thingie and the disregard for international laws ratified by congress (making them our law too).
I live in Massachusetts which already has some of the toughest gun laws in the country (though nothing like the laws in the UK). I am law abiding and Mass gun laws do not spoil my gun fun.
As far as the assault weapon thing, I am referring to the federal legislation as it stood before it lapsed under Bush. Don't tell me crimes aren't committed with assault weapons in our cities. I am always hearing of some gangbanger with an illegal AK shooting up some place or another. That doen't mean that it doesn't also happen with Colt Python .357s or Raven .25s also but an AK round is a lot more deadly than a .25acp.
If I would place a finger on my discomfort, I would relate my concern for the lack of discipline I percieve in a lot of hardcase wannabees with "assault weapons". I am a martial artist and I have studied the discipline of the Japanese sword for more than a decade. Yes the katana was only designed to kill men, but it is a door way to personal growth through intense training. I admit if I ever actually use my sword training as originally intended it will be my last free day on earth. But No, I am not going to use the "monks robe cut" or the "Falling leaves cut" on any living person, I do it because it is art and it is beautiful. If Proponents of Military assault rifles would adopt the same sense of discipline with their weapons as is imposed in the organizations that issued the weapons originally perhaps I would see fewer problems with their private ownership. But, most of the civilian individuals I have encountered who extoll Black rifles are not willing to impose discipline on themselves. They like them because they are "cool" and they feel more macho with one (get some Viagra, its cheaper).
Now I did see an Inuit on TV who had an M-5 carbine (for polar bears) and I think that eskimo had a good reason to have it. He was defending his community,(not his gang and their stash) and he was so far out on the ice a stray round would be unlikely to be regretted. I would not take that mans AR away. Personally, I don't plan to take anything away from anybody. But if the Clinton Assault weapons ban is brought back, I simply think there are more important things to worry about than looming socialism confiscating all our black rifles.
Bella,
The first step in confiscation of all firearms is banning more and more types of firearms, just to get the weak minded like you accustomed to the idea that taking away your 2nd Amendment rights is really OK and won't really hurt anyone.
You, sir, are delusional. You can't say that you "like" the whole Constitution and in the same breath support the selective removal of rights.
Go ask anyone in Australia or Britain how the gun control laws impact them and how do they like it. Let our government enforce current laws and prove or disprove their merit and impact on society before trying to legislate some knee-jerk solution --- sort of like the current bailout and "stimulus " mess before us now.
Let's see...gangbangers with illegal AKs commit crimes. By that logic, those gangbangers, who have already broken federal law by possessing firearms, will suddenly lay down their AKs and ARs if only we pass another AWB. Go ahead, say that out loud a few times, see how it sounds. The reality is that the AWB did nothing, absolutely NOTHING, to reduce crime. If you don't believe me, then go find the Justice Department study concerning the effectiveness of the AWB. Even the federal government admitted the AWB was useless. Not only did it not reduce crime, but it didn't even prohibit the sale of "assault weapons". The AWB did not reduce crime and it didn't prevent people from buying the "banned" weapons; the solution...let's bring it back and make it permanent. Absolutely brilliant! As for "assault weapons" being used in crimes, of course they are, and I never said otherwise. I said their use in crimes is rare, which is the truth, especially when compared with the use of handguns in crime. Should we ban handguns as well? After all they kill MANY more people in a given year that "assault weapons". Bella you cannot say you support the entire Constitution and yet be in favor of an AWB. Either you are an ally, or a quisling, there is no in between.
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Don't sit on the fence Chad, tell us how you really feel
Cheers
SBW (64)
You may not like his politics, you may not like the way he hunts, and you may not like him personally but I for one will take a hunting politician that is pro gun over some left wing anti gun politician any day.
Technology finds a way into every situation, even in the outdoors.
I'm with Jay on this one.
Don
Chad, I have a roll of T.P. if you need it.
Don
Jay, what's your point? I didn't think Chad was coming out in support of the Brady Bunch here.
Bella
Since you are a self proclaimed Left Winger, I salute you for at least admitting it! However, as usual, you liberals mix the facts with your fictional rhetoric.
Military "assault weapons" by definition are automatic weapons, not autoloading like most sporting arms. Show me one "Assault weapon" in it's non-sporting version that does not have a full-auto mode?
Submachineguns and ful auto weapons are already banned except by special permits and tax by the BATF. I have not heard of a crime perpetrated by a legally permitted automatic weapon.
So you already have your wish: assualt weapons and submachineguns area already effectively banned from sale and possession to the public.
Karl Rove does not have exclusive claim to criminal activity. Just check out Obama's nominees records....Ooops!
Ooops to me! Need a spellchecker!
Now, now Bella. Back away from the edge of the building....slowly, slowly. Your people will get their turn to destroy the portions of the constitution they want to in due time. Right now they are busy bankrupting the futures of my children.
I really do not think F&S would be well served by having Mr. Rove in their magazine. Or Cheney, or (insert famous person here). As Chad has indicated, the vast majority do not hunt. They go out and shoot. There is a subtle yet enormous difference. "Hunting" for these people never is bad, at least from a game population standpoint. The only part of the hunt that might be bad is their aim that day. No sense of joy from a great point by a dog you trained yourself that will go home that night and lay down on the floor by your kids, no connection to the land. Just come in, get me on birds, let me shoot every thing in the air with feathers, then get me back to the lodge for drinks and a gourmet meal. The part that tears me is people like this are who I have to "want" in government as they are the closest things to "sportspeople" that will do anything to protect my interests. Leaves me feeling a bit dirty.
WA Mthunter:
Yup, simply enforce the ones on the books. Seems pretty simple to me too, but you'll never convince "others" of that!!
Bella, you may "love guns" but it's painfully obvious you don't know a whole lot about them. You say assault weapons are solely for killing people and need to be banned. First, can you even define assault weapon? I suspect you are using that term in reference to semi-automatic look alike weapons such as the AR-15 and AK series knock-offs, which as another poster has already explained to you ARE NOT ASSAULT WEAPONS. In addition, these types of firearms are wildly popular among lawful firearm enthusiasts, are no more deadly than any other centerfire rifle, and are rarely used in crimes. Why then would you wish to ban them? Second, my detachable magazine equipped SKS has never killed someone. Neither has my brother's M4. Neither have millions of other legally owned "assault rifles" By your logic they must all be defective, right? In all seriousness, every firearm ever made has the capacity to kill a man, but its purpose is determined by the man or woman pulling the trigger. Perhaps next time you post on firearms you could have a clue what you are talking about and use logic rather than rely on histrionics gleaned from the folks at the Brady Campaign?
Hokay, Firstly I like the whole constitution, all of it, I am not aware of any other liberal minded folk who might approve of redacting our constitution. And your children were being being bankrupted when Halliburton got it's first no-bid contract to go over budget on the war (thank you Darth Cheney). To my mind it would be politicians who come up with "signing statements" detailing how a sitting president plans to ignore the law, who want to distroy our constitution. Then there is the Habias Corpus thingie and the disregard for international laws ratified by congress (making them our law too).
I live in Massachusetts which already has some of the toughest gun laws in the country (though nothing like the laws in the UK). I am law abiding and Mass gun laws do not spoil my gun fun.
As far as the assault weapon thing, I am referring to the federal legislation as it stood before it lapsed under Bush. Don't tell me crimes aren't committed with assault weapons in our cities. I am always hearing of some gangbanger with an illegal AK shooting up some place or another. That doen't mean that it doesn't also happen with Colt Python .357s or Raven .25s also but an AK round is a lot more deadly than a .25acp.
If I would place a finger on my discomfort, I would relate my concern for the lack of discipline I percieve in a lot of hardcase wannabees with "assault weapons". I am a martial artist and I have studied the discipline of the Japanese sword for more than a decade. Yes the katana was only designed to kill men, but it is a door way to personal growth through intense training. I admit if I ever actually use my sword training as originally intended it will be my last free day on earth. But No, I am not going to use the "monks robe cut" or the "Falling leaves cut" on any living person, I do it because it is art and it is beautiful. If Proponents of Military assault rifles would adopt the same sense of discipline with their weapons as is imposed in the organizations that issued the weapons originally perhaps I would see fewer problems with their private ownership. But, most of the civilian individuals I have encountered who extoll Black rifles are not willing to impose discipline on themselves. They like them because they are "cool" and they feel more macho with one (get some Viagra, its cheaper).
Now I did see an Inuit on TV who had an M-5 carbine (for polar bears) and I think that eskimo had a good reason to have it. He was defending his community,(not his gang and their stash) and he was so far out on the ice a stray round would be unlikely to be regretted. I would not take that mans AR away. Personally, I don't plan to take anything away from anybody. But if the Clinton Assault weapons ban is brought back, I simply think there are more important things to worry about than looming socialism confiscating all our black rifles.
Bella,
The first step in confiscation of all firearms is banning more and more types of firearms, just to get the weak minded like you accustomed to the idea that taking away your 2nd Amendment rights is really OK and won't really hurt anyone.
You, sir, are delusional. You can't say that you "like" the whole Constitution and in the same breath support the selective removal of rights.
Go ask anyone in Australia or Britain how the gun control laws impact them and how do they like it. Let our government enforce current laws and prove or disprove their merit and impact on society before trying to legislate some knee-jerk solution --- sort of like the current bailout and "stimulus " mess before us now.
Let's see...gangbangers with illegal AKs commit crimes. By that logic, those gangbangers, who have already broken federal law by possessing firearms, will suddenly lay down their AKs and ARs if only we pass another AWB. Go ahead, say that out loud a few times, see how it sounds. The reality is that the AWB did nothing, absolutely NOTHING, to reduce crime. If you don't believe me, then go find the Justice Department study concerning the effectiveness of the AWB. Even the federal government admitted the AWB was useless. Not only did it not reduce crime, but it didn't even prohibit the sale of "assault weapons". The AWB did not reduce crime and it didn't prevent people from buying the "banned" weapons; the solution...let's bring it back and make it permanent. Absolutely brilliant! As for "assault weapons" being used in crimes, of course they are, and I never said otherwise. I said their use in crimes is rare, which is the truth, especially when compared with the use of handguns in crime. Should we ban handguns as well? After all they kill MANY more people in a given year that "assault weapons". Bella you cannot say you support the entire Constitution and yet be in favor of an AWB. Either you are an ally, or a quisling, there is no in between.
Rove belongs in jail for numerous crimes against democracy. I don't care if he does Twitter, although I consider him a twit. I am also a gun lover as much as anybody else (except for assault weapons, which are solely for killing people). I am ALSO A "LEFT- WINGER" I don't support banning all guns, just military assault rifles and submachine guns. I resent the notion that because I dispise people like Rove, who would manipulate our system to insure the preeminence of the corporate class at the expense of the middle class and the poor. The hypocracy of the right wing astounds me sometimes, like when after 8 years of humungous deficits and a mass transfer of wealth to the upper 1% of the population they claim that the stimulous package will cause deficit spending! Hello! What were they doing for 8 years? They claim Obama is using "fear mongering"! Hello! what about that rationale for this useless war they got us into? They want tax cuts! Obvously they want deficits because they don't want to pay their share of the bills they ran up. The right doesn't deserve to call itself conservative any more after the Bush years, nothing has been conserved! Reactionaries maybe...Fascists certainly.
Rove committed crimes, he and his cronies should be put in nice secure dark holes where they can contemplate the people who died because of their greed and malfeasance. Roves "outing" of Valery Plame was ab federal crime and he should go to Leavenworth for it. Hunting? Felons don't deserve the priviledge of bearing arms. Bearing arms is the perogative of law abiding people in a free society. Our country is much less free since Bush and his "brain" Carl Rove, the assault on our right to privacy is only one aspect of their war on democracy. (or do you all assume your cell phone confersations are secure?) Lock 'em all up! Those who prate about freedom while kidnapping innocent people off the streets and locking them up in concentrationschlagers don't deserve freedom themselves!
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