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November 16, 2009

More Details on the Sad Story of the Biggest Eight-Point Buck Ever Killed

By Scott Bestul

Last week, a giant whitetail was allegedly poached near the town of Cannon Falls, Minnesota. The buck’s antlers sported a highly symmetrical frame and is said to have green-scored 192 B&C, and netted 188”. The inside spread of 28-3/8” is mule-deer wide.

Lou Cornicelli, the Minnesota DNR big-game coordinator, had this comment about the monster buck ... “Millions of deer are harvested nationally each year. The probability of harvesting one this big is just infinitesimal. It doesn’t exist.”

Cornicelli said more than a mouthful. Mainly because the measurements being tossed about belong to a whitetail with a rack sporting only eight points. Ask any veteran B&C scorer, and he’ll tell you to kill a “Booner” (a buck that qualifies for the B&C all-time awards minimum of 170” ), the buck better have at least ten tines, long main beams, and plenty of mass. Only a handful of 8-point whitetails have the right stuff to crack the B&C book.

Out of curiosity, I searched the B&C records program to see just how small that handful was. The answer? Even tinier than I thought. The B&C book includes animals killed as far back as 1830 and includes whitetails tagged up through 2008. In that 170-year-plus span, only 34 8-point whitetails have scored 170” or better. That’s thirty four out of literally millions of 8-pointers killed in that span.

And to make this even tougher to swallow, this Minnesota  8-point would not have only made this list with room to spare, it would have been the best 8-point whitetail ever. A world record deer. Second place? 180-3/8”, the score awarded to a South Dakota buck killed by Vernon Winter in 1965.

This magnificent buck could still find its way into the B&C books, since the organization allows “found” or “picked up” heads to be entered. Since the Minnesota DNR is now in possession of the rack, they could pursue putting the buck into B&C and, if allowed, the buck would at least be honored. But here’s a safer bet; the rack will almost certainly be included in the DNR’s “Wall of Shame”, a traveling display of poached trophy heads that state conservation officers take to sports shows each year.

In my opinion, not a fitting end to what is likely the largest 8-point buck in history.

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from dakasper wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

some people's kids......

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from bigjake wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

around here that would be a 9 point, even though one point on the left is small its still big enought to count...

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from NolanOsborne wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Thats a real shame. I don't understand why it is so hard to do it legal.

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from liver5660 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

to be counted for the record books, the tine has to be longer than 1 inch, and despite its size, i don't think that is 1 inch.

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from buckslayer911 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

its to bad that a buck like that has to go to waste when it could of been lifelong memory for someone else

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from Big O wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

First off I hope they "FRY" the PUNK that shot this buck.
Now, why can't they enter it into the B/C books and "display" it in their "wall of shame" ?
There are all kinds of reproductions that are "on tour".

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from buckhunter wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

I'd rather see this story emphasize the harsh punishment recieved by the poacher. I just don't see how showing off the huge racks helps deter poaching.

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from RichardF wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

I don't believe that any resident to the state would be denied a tag. Just buy one they are not that expensive!

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from theoutdoorfever wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

What an incredible buck. I hope the poacher gets punished pretty hard. I can't imagine what that deer must've looked like on the hoof.

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from Joel Panian wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

That must've been a beautiful deer. Sickening that it was poached by some greedy scum.

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from stickbow13 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

it's a shame that people have to do that. wouldn't you want to be the hunter to put your name in the " book " then be the one to be booked????? i sure would with a buck like that....8 points and netts 188 ... one of 34 that would be award in it's self

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from swilmot1 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

WOW get your lazy butt out and hunt ethically

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from dawson kid wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

To tell the truth, i think the stupid idoit that shot that buck sou;d get slapped across the face for not getting it shoulder mounted. i know it's wrong, and the poacher prolly knows it wrong. if pople know its wrong why do they still do it? if they keep doing will there still be bucks with more then 4 points for our kids to shoot????

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from jlbaxa wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

makes me sick

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from boone04 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

A 32 year man, of Cannon Falls was charged this morning in Goodhue County with 13 counts of illegal taking deer. If convicted, he faces $19,000 in fines, up to a year in jail and revocation of his hunting license.

According to twincities press.

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from neuman23 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

I'm pretty sure he had it at the taxidermist and thats how they found out about it. I also read some where that he had shot a smaller 8 pointer earlier on, and thats why he no longer had an archery tag. Hope he gets jail time.

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from coho310 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

A beautiful 4 by 4 wasted to a freaking "thrill-killer".I say that because he had to be out for that buck,not trying to feed his starving family.

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from Walt Smith wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

"I just don't see how showing off big racks deters poaching" Ding Ding Ding Ding, congradulations! you have discovered the reason many people can think of nothing but big racks. Excess comercialzation!

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from shawey90 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

what a shame should have just waited for gun season

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from fliphuntr14 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

how'd he get caught 1st of all? 2nd i think he should be given hefty fines and have to work towards the betterment of the natural resources in the area weather it be planting food plots for where the deer was shot in a form of community service...

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from Robert Ewing wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

I think he should be forced to relocate to the inner city ,a safe distance from any park and next to a expressway.If there is a picture of this buck ,I'd like to see it with the rack but stricken his name from the record.

And if he is in the picture silhouette him out with a tutu and hornedrimed glasses.

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from Earl E. November wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

The record books are deceiving,, They list total number of points per side, with no destiction of normal or abnormal, Consequently a main frame 4x4 with two small burr points etc could show in the book as a 5x5, but score as a 4x4.
It may very well be the largest clean 4x4, but it is possible one bigger may be in the books, the total number will definitely be higher than 34 if all you did is look for records of deer with only 4 points per side.
Regardless, it is one heck of a deer and one of the saddest stories ever if it doesn't do anything to change some people's thinking on hunting legally and ethically.

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from Fischerman69 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

that is a real shame that buck is gone and that it wwas taken by someone who isnt enough of a hunter to do it legally

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from djw5250 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

this is a hell of a way to find out the deer i ve been hunting got poached!

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from Kevin wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

This buck makes my homestate of MN stick it's chest out with pride, it's just too bad it had to be taken illegally. I hope more pictures of the horns surface soon, I'd love to see the side views and hear the measurements. With a score like that the beam length must be incredible and the symmetry as well. Only a handful of bucks ever get this wide too! I hope the guy that shot this buck loses his right to hunt for a long time, forever would be fine with me.

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from WhitetailHunter706 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Wow what a magnificant buck to bad it was taken illegally i think it should be put in the record books but not with the poachers name on it the poacher should get more than 19k in fines for poaching 13 deer that is definetly not doing it to feed your family Just sickening

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from WhitetailHunter706 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Wow what a magnificant buck to bad it was taken illegally i think it should be put in the record books but not with the poachers name on it the poacher should get more than 19k in fines for poaching 13 deer that is definetly not doing it to feed your family Just sickening

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from jordjohn44 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

I would also like to know how they caught the poacher. That is rediculous that someone would shoot such a monster and not want to even keep it. Poaching just makes me sick.

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from 2Poppa wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

"Ask any veteran B&C scorer, and he’ll tell you to kill a “Booner” (a buck that qualifies for the B&C all-time awards minimum of 170” ), the buck better have at least ten tines, long main beams, and plenty of mass. Only a handful of 8-point whitetails have the right stuff to crack the B&C book."

Just talked with Kentucky's Department of Wildlife biologist this past weekend, and he verified the exact statement
above.

The one and only way to punish poachers, is to hit 'em with a large fine, and publish their mug in every state's hunting regulations, deer expo's and on-line, through public humiliation. Let the real hunters publically scorn and benefit from their hefty fine!

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from JDibala wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

thomas howard-

First off; He never should have been in his stand if he were already tagged out.
Second; "envy"? The fines and public humiliation that come with an act such as this are enough to deter me from poaching, not to mention that it's unethical.
And lastly; Race and politics have nothing to do with this story.

Hefty fines, Public humiliation and license revocation for a number of years is what this guy needs.

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from huntinnut wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

This is just sickening. He deserves more of a punishment. I'm from Minnesota and in the paper it said he was looking at "possible" jail time and 2000 dollars in fines and other punishments. What about the hunters that had put in the hours and scouted it and tried desperately to get a shot at this monster. It's people like this that give hunters around the world a bad name.

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from thomas howard wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

does doe tags make any sense to you?your not as smart as you talk.we all do r fair share of law breaking,the only difference is yours doesnt get publicized.down the road at one point r another we break the law ,breaking the law is breaking the law,just because he killed a deer with no tag doesnt make him no worse than u.

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from husker22 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Sounds like thomas howard supports poaching. How do you justify any of your nonsense? More importantly, do you consider yourself a sportsman with this banter? By the way, when you break the law and get caught, it does get publicized in some form, usually on a criminal record. I'm all about hefty fines and publication. Poaching should result in the loss of your hunting priviledges in all states...first offense. Hit them where it hurts.

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from Dbetzner wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

A buck like that... its a shame and it makes me sick. on another note WOW to the size of that rack...

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from phconk wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

thet kind of stuff realy tick people off

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from yohan wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

Fiest who ever the mutt was should have any hunting privlages revoked for good ,.period.
Second any one have any idea how much the deer weighed ,. the rack looks downright prehistoric ,..
bet that was whopper .
Third who is this cracker Thomas Howard ,..
yall sounds like you got your head so far up your craker A$$ yall are high on methane gas .

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from Justin D wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

Wow, what a monster! I hope that poacher gets Jail time and a huge fine. Oh and loose his hunting rights for life. Oh and take his guns away for sure!

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from brunsonshane wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

some people just suck at all aspects of life

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from Mock1 wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

You know, I'm against poaching,,, but, I don't think it would have made that big of a story if iy was a doe. Sorry to be so obvious

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from thomas howard wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

hhmmmm????.o yeah ,yohan,u sound a little norweigan if u ask me.so why dont u take your dumb self back to that hell hole yall call a country.and were did u learn the word cracker???and if you keep talking we can all see how ignorant u people really r.

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from thomas howard wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

hhmmmm????.o yeah ,yohan,u sound a little norweigan if u ask me.so why dont u take your dumb self back to that hell hole yall call a country.and were did u learn the word cracker???and if you keep talking we can all see how ignorant u people really r.

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from thomas howard wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

mock1 your totatly right.if it was a doe no one would give a care.just because it has an enormous rack the whole world has to end.

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from coho310 wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

Don't just show off the huge rack,show the punishments,just as buckhunter said.Showing how much it pays off doesn't deter poaching,showing what a deep pile of crap you'd be in deters it.

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from buckhunter wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

Somebody help me out here. What's a cracker? Did this dude eat the deer after he shot it? Is venison good with crackers? I'm a little lost. Thomas Howard, Would you mind terribly if I use your quote, "breaking the law is breaking the law." Your a genius man. I'm sure you found this site will surfing your mensa sites.

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from trapbed wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

I dont believe it has to do with the gender of the deer taken... It is about the fact that someone so blatently disrespected the rest of the men and women in this country who buy thier licenses and spend the time and energy it takes to pursue and hopefully harvest a once in a lifetime specimen such as this... Its a slap in our face,and I for one am as MAD AS HELL!!! You should be too...

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from eddie21 wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

I don't see why he wouldn't hunt it like a normal person.

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from jhanson wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

I think hunters like Thomas Howard are perfect examples of what anti hunters think we all are. Who else here thinks he would shoot this buck out of season if the opportunity arose? After all, it's just breaking the law, just like we all have done. Yall keep typin dem der double negatives an callin norwegians norWEIgans. Get a clue, spellcheck, and try to stay on point.

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from thomas howard wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

hey buckhuner is that a northern pike?

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from steve182 wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

It's a shame a decent hunter like me or you will not get a crack at this deer because some scumbag poached him. Karma is a b*tch though, no doubt.

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from thomas howard wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

who said anything about shooting it out of the truck,jhanson??????and if u r so nieve u cant get my point,than u need help.all im sayin is we have all done somthing that was against the law,were not perfect.but maybe u r????????????.

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from thomas howard wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

yes poaching an animal is wrong,and yes he could have wated for shotgun season.but hey what if that buck chased a doe out into the roadway, and a mom with 3 young kids hit him and they all died ???????some things r ment to happen for the best.

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from kodnocker wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

Would have been a great trophy. Too bad it was allegedly taken illegally. I'm sure the fine will be about the size of that rack!

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from jstorm55 wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

What is the world coming to? To many activists and tree huggers out there. Something like this is only a big deal because it is a record buck. He still had to put his time in and work for this buck, only thing is he didn't have a tag for it. Who in their right mind would pass this buck up while bowhunting on private land. Have a friend tag it or something. You morons are just jealous you didn't get this buck or publicity!

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from buckslayer123 wrote 4 years 20 weeks ago

thats a shame. thats a huge deer that could have placed high up there.

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from fisherman wrote 4 years 20 weeks ago

Somebody tell me what this buck has to do with race, politics or gender???? Much less the pres. Yeah I'm not perfect but I don't go breaking laws just cause I feel like it. Any poaching is a big deal to me but this is that much more because of the rack. Some people don't understand this, they think because this one with a rack is a big deal than other poaching isn't. It's all a big sad deal but especially this one.

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from fisherman wrote 4 years 20 weeks ago

Lawbreaking IS lawbreaking, but how many of us have broken game laws?

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from Ed Mays wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

Amen,I hate road hunters.. They are and will remain the biggest shame to the sport. They make the "snapshot" with no regard to whats beyond near or around the intended target.Further more no matter what time the road hunter is around i firmly believe they are poachers. Face it you give all ethical hunters bad names.

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from butterbean1978 wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

That is a shame that deer deserved to be taken the legal way and not to mention some honest hunter could have had a very nice trophy to show off and give the deer the respect it has earned.

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from whitetailkjf wrote 4 years 18 weeks ago

A+ for being an idiot

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from TBGBIG8 wrote 4 years 18 weeks ago

He gave us the opportunity to view a bohemoth 8 point buck.Hell,the largest 8 point in the world.3 yrs.ago I also had the opportunity to harvest a monster 10 pt. at 12 steps,but it was 2 days before general season.Yeah I had a gun and yeah I let him walk,possibly to never see him again.
this guy is a disgrace to the hunting world,what a dumb ass!!!

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from TBGBIG8 wrote 4 years 18 weeks ago

I bet everyone reading these comments wants to be just like Thomas Howard when they grow up!!!
Duhhhhhhhhh!!!!! He already had 2 illegal deer before he killed this 8.Sounds to me like he got publicity for those 2 deer along with the 8.
Guess we could all turn our heads and not give a shit,only to fall in the same category with T.H..
By the way,nice buck T.H.(LEGAL or ILLEGAL ?)

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from Scott Smith wrote 4 years 16 weeks ago

its a dang shame what people do. any one who hunts knows the possibility of seeing a monster like that is unlikely. but you get stupid people like this that dont care. people like this should charged as if they killed a person.

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from Jere Smith wrote 4 years 16 weeks ago

Truly disgusting! This guy should get a HUGE fine and several years in jail. With BIG BAD BUBBA for a cellmate.

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from jwallen wrote 4 years 16 weeks ago

I kind of miss the subtle nuance of a good public flogging!

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from Jere Smith wrote 4 years 16 weeks ago

Flogging, hmmmmmmmmmmm thats just for a START!

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from hen wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

thomas is amazing
, goo story.

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from hen wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

thomas is amazing
, good story.

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from E.J.H wrote 24 weeks 2 days ago

That is just crazy, that is a shame. Their had to be many hunters dedicating their lives to get him legally. Well for starts the guy will probably have to pay restitution, maybe some community service, have his license forfeited, and lose the items used to poach the buck. After that's all said he has nothing to lose so he will be out there to do it again. It sucks, why do they get pleasure out of it.

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from JDibala wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

thomas howard-

First off; He never should have been in his stand if he were already tagged out.
Second; "envy"? The fines and public humiliation that come with an act such as this are enough to deter me from poaching, not to mention that it's unethical.
And lastly; Race and politics have nothing to do with this story.

Hefty fines, Public humiliation and license revocation for a number of years is what this guy needs.

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from liver5660 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

to be counted for the record books, the tine has to be longer than 1 inch, and despite its size, i don't think that is 1 inch.

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from 2Poppa wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

"Ask any veteran B&C scorer, and he’ll tell you to kill a “Booner” (a buck that qualifies for the B&C all-time awards minimum of 170” ), the buck better have at least ten tines, long main beams, and plenty of mass. Only a handful of 8-point whitetails have the right stuff to crack the B&C book."

Just talked with Kentucky's Department of Wildlife biologist this past weekend, and he verified the exact statement
above.

The one and only way to punish poachers, is to hit 'em with a large fine, and publish their mug in every state's hunting regulations, deer expo's and on-line, through public humiliation. Let the real hunters publically scorn and benefit from their hefty fine!

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from coho310 wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

Don't just show off the huge rack,show the punishments,just as buckhunter said.Showing how much it pays off doesn't deter poaching,showing what a deep pile of crap you'd be in deters it.

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from dakasper wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

some people's kids......

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from buckhunter wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

I'd rather see this story emphasize the harsh punishment recieved by the poacher. I just don't see how showing off the huge racks helps deter poaching.

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from Walt Smith wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

"I just don't see how showing off big racks deters poaching" Ding Ding Ding Ding, congradulations! you have discovered the reason many people can think of nothing but big racks. Excess comercialzation!

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from djw5250 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

this is a hell of a way to find out the deer i ve been hunting got poached!

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from husker22 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Sounds like thomas howard supports poaching. How do you justify any of your nonsense? More importantly, do you consider yourself a sportsman with this banter? By the way, when you break the law and get caught, it does get publicized in some form, usually on a criminal record. I'm all about hefty fines and publication. Poaching should result in the loss of your hunting priviledges in all states...first offense. Hit them where it hurts.

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from yohan wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

Fiest who ever the mutt was should have any hunting privlages revoked for good ,.period.
Second any one have any idea how much the deer weighed ,. the rack looks downright prehistoric ,..
bet that was whopper .
Third who is this cracker Thomas Howard ,..
yall sounds like you got your head so far up your craker A$$ yall are high on methane gas .

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from jhanson wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

I think hunters like Thomas Howard are perfect examples of what anti hunters think we all are. Who else here thinks he would shoot this buck out of season if the opportunity arose? After all, it's just breaking the law, just like we all have done. Yall keep typin dem der double negatives an callin norwegians norWEIgans. Get a clue, spellcheck, and try to stay on point.

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from fisherman wrote 4 years 20 weeks ago

Somebody tell me what this buck has to do with race, politics or gender???? Much less the pres. Yeah I'm not perfect but I don't go breaking laws just cause I feel like it. Any poaching is a big deal to me but this is that much more because of the rack. Some people don't understand this, they think because this one with a rack is a big deal than other poaching isn't. It's all a big sad deal but especially this one.

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from fisherman wrote 4 years 20 weeks ago

Lawbreaking IS lawbreaking, but how many of us have broken game laws?

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from NolanOsborne wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Thats a real shame. I don't understand why it is so hard to do it legal.

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from buckslayer911 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

its to bad that a buck like that has to go to waste when it could of been lifelong memory for someone else

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from theoutdoorfever wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

What an incredible buck. I hope the poacher gets punished pretty hard. I can't imagine what that deer must've looked like on the hoof.

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from Joel Panian wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

That must've been a beautiful deer. Sickening that it was poached by some greedy scum.

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from stickbow13 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

it's a shame that people have to do that. wouldn't you want to be the hunter to put your name in the " book " then be the one to be booked????? i sure would with a buck like that....8 points and netts 188 ... one of 34 that would be award in it's self

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from swilmot1 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

WOW get your lazy butt out and hunt ethically

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from jlbaxa wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

makes me sick

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from boone04 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

A 32 year man, of Cannon Falls was charged this morning in Goodhue County with 13 counts of illegal taking deer. If convicted, he faces $19,000 in fines, up to a year in jail and revocation of his hunting license.

According to twincities press.

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from neuman23 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

I'm pretty sure he had it at the taxidermist and thats how they found out about it. I also read some where that he had shot a smaller 8 pointer earlier on, and thats why he no longer had an archery tag. Hope he gets jail time.

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from Robert Ewing wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

I think he should be forced to relocate to the inner city ,a safe distance from any park and next to a expressway.If there is a picture of this buck ,I'd like to see it with the rack but stricken his name from the record.

And if he is in the picture silhouette him out with a tutu and hornedrimed glasses.

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from jordjohn44 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

I would also like to know how they caught the poacher. That is rediculous that someone would shoot such a monster and not want to even keep it. Poaching just makes me sick.

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from huntinnut wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

This is just sickening. He deserves more of a punishment. I'm from Minnesota and in the paper it said he was looking at "possible" jail time and 2000 dollars in fines and other punishments. What about the hunters that had put in the hours and scouted it and tried desperately to get a shot at this monster. It's people like this that give hunters around the world a bad name.

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from Dbetzner wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

A buck like that... its a shame and it makes me sick. on another note WOW to the size of that rack...

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from phconk wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

thet kind of stuff realy tick people off

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from Justin D wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

Wow, what a monster! I hope that poacher gets Jail time and a huge fine. Oh and loose his hunting rights for life. Oh and take his guns away for sure!

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from brunsonshane wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

some people just suck at all aspects of life

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from trapbed wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

I dont believe it has to do with the gender of the deer taken... It is about the fact that someone so blatently disrespected the rest of the men and women in this country who buy thier licenses and spend the time and energy it takes to pursue and hopefully harvest a once in a lifetime specimen such as this... Its a slap in our face,and I for one am as MAD AS HELL!!! You should be too...

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from eddie21 wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

I don't see why he wouldn't hunt it like a normal person.

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from Big O wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

First off I hope they "FRY" the PUNK that shot this buck.
Now, why can't they enter it into the B/C books and "display" it in their "wall of shame" ?
There are all kinds of reproductions that are "on tour".

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from RichardF wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

I don't believe that any resident to the state would be denied a tag. Just buy one they are not that expensive!

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from dawson kid wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

To tell the truth, i think the stupid idoit that shot that buck sou;d get slapped across the face for not getting it shoulder mounted. i know it's wrong, and the poacher prolly knows it wrong. if pople know its wrong why do they still do it? if they keep doing will there still be bucks with more then 4 points for our kids to shoot????

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from coho310 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

A beautiful 4 by 4 wasted to a freaking "thrill-killer".I say that because he had to be out for that buck,not trying to feed his starving family.

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from shawey90 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

what a shame should have just waited for gun season

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from fliphuntr14 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

how'd he get caught 1st of all? 2nd i think he should be given hefty fines and have to work towards the betterment of the natural resources in the area weather it be planting food plots for where the deer was shot in a form of community service...

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from Earl E. November wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

The record books are deceiving,, They list total number of points per side, with no destiction of normal or abnormal, Consequently a main frame 4x4 with two small burr points etc could show in the book as a 5x5, but score as a 4x4.
It may very well be the largest clean 4x4, but it is possible one bigger may be in the books, the total number will definitely be higher than 34 if all you did is look for records of deer with only 4 points per side.
Regardless, it is one heck of a deer and one of the saddest stories ever if it doesn't do anything to change some people's thinking on hunting legally and ethically.

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from Fischerman69 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

that is a real shame that buck is gone and that it wwas taken by someone who isnt enough of a hunter to do it legally

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from Kevin wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

This buck makes my homestate of MN stick it's chest out with pride, it's just too bad it had to be taken illegally. I hope more pictures of the horns surface soon, I'd love to see the side views and hear the measurements. With a score like that the beam length must be incredible and the symmetry as well. Only a handful of bucks ever get this wide too! I hope the guy that shot this buck loses his right to hunt for a long time, forever would be fine with me.

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from WhitetailHunter706 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Wow what a magnificant buck to bad it was taken illegally i think it should be put in the record books but not with the poachers name on it the poacher should get more than 19k in fines for poaching 13 deer that is definetly not doing it to feed your family Just sickening

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from WhitetailHunter706 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Wow what a magnificant buck to bad it was taken illegally i think it should be put in the record books but not with the poachers name on it the poacher should get more than 19k in fines for poaching 13 deer that is definetly not doing it to feed your family Just sickening

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from Mock1 wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

You know, I'm against poaching,,, but, I don't think it would have made that big of a story if iy was a doe. Sorry to be so obvious

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from buckhunter wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

Somebody help me out here. What's a cracker? Did this dude eat the deer after he shot it? Is venison good with crackers? I'm a little lost. Thomas Howard, Would you mind terribly if I use your quote, "breaking the law is breaking the law." Your a genius man. I'm sure you found this site will surfing your mensa sites.

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from steve182 wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

It's a shame a decent hunter like me or you will not get a crack at this deer because some scumbag poached him. Karma is a b*tch though, no doubt.

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from kodnocker wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

Would have been a great trophy. Too bad it was allegedly taken illegally. I'm sure the fine will be about the size of that rack!

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from Ed Mays wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

Amen,I hate road hunters.. They are and will remain the biggest shame to the sport. They make the "snapshot" with no regard to whats beyond near or around the intended target.Further more no matter what time the road hunter is around i firmly believe they are poachers. Face it you give all ethical hunters bad names.

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from butterbean1978 wrote 4 years 19 weeks ago

That is a shame that deer deserved to be taken the legal way and not to mention some honest hunter could have had a very nice trophy to show off and give the deer the respect it has earned.

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from bigjake wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

around here that would be a 9 point, even though one point on the left is small its still big enought to count...

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from thomas howard wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

mock1 your totatly right.if it was a doe no one would give a care.just because it has an enormous rack the whole world has to end.

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from buckslayer123 wrote 4 years 20 weeks ago

thats a shame. thats a huge deer that could have placed high up there.

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from whitetailkjf wrote 4 years 18 weeks ago

A+ for being an idiot

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from TBGBIG8 wrote 4 years 18 weeks ago

He gave us the opportunity to view a bohemoth 8 point buck.Hell,the largest 8 point in the world.3 yrs.ago I also had the opportunity to harvest a monster 10 pt. at 12 steps,but it was 2 days before general season.Yeah I had a gun and yeah I let him walk,possibly to never see him again.
this guy is a disgrace to the hunting world,what a dumb ass!!!

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from jwallen wrote 4 years 16 weeks ago

I kind of miss the subtle nuance of a good public flogging!

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from thomas howard wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

yes poaching an animal is wrong,and yes he could have wated for shotgun season.but hey what if that buck chased a doe out into the roadway, and a mom with 3 young kids hit him and they all died ???????some things r ment to happen for the best.

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from Jere Smith wrote 4 years 16 weeks ago

Truly disgusting! This guy should get a HUGE fine and several years in jail. With BIG BAD BUBBA for a cellmate.

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from Jere Smith wrote 4 years 16 weeks ago

Flogging, hmmmmmmmmmmm thats just for a START!

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from hen wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

thomas is amazing
, goo story.

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from hen wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

thomas is amazing
, good story.

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from E.J.H wrote 24 weeks 2 days ago

That is just crazy, that is a shame. Their had to be many hunters dedicating their lives to get him legally. Well for starts the guy will probably have to pay restitution, maybe some community service, have his license forfeited, and lose the items used to poach the buck. After that's all said he has nothing to lose so he will be out there to do it again. It sucks, why do they get pleasure out of it.

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from thomas howard wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

hhmmmm????.o yeah ,yohan,u sound a little norweigan if u ask me.so why dont u take your dumb self back to that hell hole yall call a country.and were did u learn the word cracker???and if you keep talking we can all see how ignorant u people really r.

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from thomas howard wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

hhmmmm????.o yeah ,yohan,u sound a little norweigan if u ask me.so why dont u take your dumb self back to that hell hole yall call a country.and were did u learn the word cracker???and if you keep talking we can all see how ignorant u people really r.

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from thomas howard wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

who said anything about shooting it out of the truck,jhanson??????and if u r so nieve u cant get my point,than u need help.all im sayin is we have all done somthing that was against the law,were not perfect.but maybe u r????????????.

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from jstorm55 wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

What is the world coming to? To many activists and tree huggers out there. Something like this is only a big deal because it is a record buck. He still had to put his time in and work for this buck, only thing is he didn't have a tag for it. Who in their right mind would pass this buck up while bowhunting on private land. Have a friend tag it or something. You morons are just jealous you didn't get this buck or publicity!

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from TBGBIG8 wrote 4 years 18 weeks ago

I bet everyone reading these comments wants to be just like Thomas Howard when they grow up!!!
Duhhhhhhhhh!!!!! He already had 2 illegal deer before he killed this 8.Sounds to me like he got publicity for those 2 deer along with the 8.
Guess we could all turn our heads and not give a shit,only to fall in the same category with T.H..
By the way,nice buck T.H.(LEGAL or ILLEGAL ?)

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from Scott Smith wrote 4 years 16 weeks ago

its a dang shame what people do. any one who hunts knows the possibility of seeing a monster like that is unlikely. but you get stupid people like this that dont care. people like this should charged as if they killed a person.

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from thomas howard wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

hey buckhuner is that a northern pike?

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from thomas howard wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

does doe tags make any sense to you?your not as smart as you talk.we all do r fair share of law breaking,the only difference is yours doesnt get publicized.down the road at one point r another we break the law ,breaking the law is breaking the law,just because he killed a deer with no tag doesnt make him no worse than u.

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