


November 02, 2009
To Pee or Not To Pee Off Your Treestand?
Many years ago, when Shari and I were first dating, my wife-to-be was under the mistaken notion that I drank a 20-ounce bottle of pop every time I went hunting. Finally, I had to confess that I was not hooked on soda. The bottle was empty when I stuffed it in my backpack and, um, filled if my bladder convinced my brain we’d been in the treestand too long.
Obviously, preventing deer from detecting human odor is a building block of deer hunting. It doesn’t matter if you’re the biggest carbon-clothing geek out there, or someone who simply plays the wind; if you aren’t at least thinking about scent control, you likely aren’t very successful. And since urine is one facet of our odor we have some control over, plenty of deer hunters take the logical step and pee in a bottle.
But in recent years there’s a ton of evidence that human urine doesn’t bother deer a bit. In fact, I’ve been peeing in my mock scrapes the last several seasons, and for the most part it drives buck crazy...in a good way. So acting upon the evidence I’d heard from other hunters who “let if fly” off the stand, and my own mock scrape experiments, I decided a few years back that I would no longer tolerate the muss, fuss and mess of a pee bottle. I’ve found the experience liberating, and to the best of my knowledge, have not spooked a deer with my scent-marking.
So as always, I’m curious about your experience. Are you a pee-bottle kinda hunter, or do you just let it rip when you can’t take it anymore?
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I've witnessed bucks walk directly underneath me to check out my tinkle. Pee away.
Same as buckhunter. Never had a deer shy away from it. Never used a pee bottle and killed several deer.
This year I started using a pee bottle after everyone told me it was bad to pee where you hunt. Well, they were wrong. I got my first deer, a 9 pointer, this year not ten minutes after peeing out of the stand. He walked right up to me, with the wind in his face. That day I frogot the bottle and everyday after that!! It does not seem to bother the doe either. Yesterday I had one come up behind me, no shot, but still, it did not seem to bother them I had peed all day from the stand. It does seem to bother coons a little though once they get close. Last week a coon come right under my stand, smell where I peed, and took off like some lit a fire under his rear. So, I agree, pee on!!!
Let it rip, especially in scrapes. I do try to remember to clear the leaves out besides my stand, though, so it isn't so loud. And also remember not to lower my gear there.
Oh, if you do use a bottle, best to use a cola bottle so that the color difference is obvious.
I see you've been using a Diet Mountain Dew bottle as your…uhhh…"repository". Isn't that somewhat redundant?
No experience with peeing over the side -- I usually try to start the morning with the gauge on "E" and tough it out until it's time to climb down. Yes, it's uncomfortable. But the added bonus is, it keeps you awake. A little twitchy, but awake nonetheless.
I actually had a different question concerning the other side of the shop. What does a fella do when the need arises to re-create the "beans" scene from Blazing Saddles? Stifle, or let fly under the excuse that it sounds just like a snort-wheeze? Just curious. -Bob
Is the picture a bottle of Mountain Dew or warm recycled Mountain Dew? I usually carry a bottle with a handle & a short rope to tie it to the stand. It looks nothing like my drink bottle. But, I'm thinking about giving up the bottle. More & more hunters seem to be reaching the conclusion that it doesn't matter.
20 oz bottles don't work for me....I need those wide-mouthed powerade bottles!
I used to carry a bottle, but articles from you guys (and others) have led me to quit that habit. I'm glad to be rid of the practice, too.
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Evan!
urine is a natural odor no matter what animal or person it came from and wont bother deer at all so pee away
and to "captchuck57" the guys who always brag have the smallest package lol
never used a bottle. never will.
??? O"REALLY!
You mean I've been skipping my coffee before going out for no valid reason?
I just let it fly and I also pee in my mock scrapes. Like you said, there is a lot of research that proves that there is nothing to worry about.
Everyone always tells me that peeing in a bottle isn't necessary, but I can't convince myself it won't spook the deer. I guess I'll be a pee-bottle user until the day I die! On all days hunts, like this Saturday coming up, I'll probably bring a half gallon jug to be safe!
WAS a "bottle-baby" now it's "LET ER' FLY"
i would love to see some scientific research on this stuff
I've never peed of a stand and probably never will. People have been doing studies and supposedly it doesn't spook deer, but the way I see it is why take the chance. What if you pee of your stand and a monster buck walks by and happens to spook from the smell. Then you would be wishing you had just peed in the bottle. All I'm saying is why take the chance, you never know.
Matt
theoutdoorfever.com
Cohorts and I had this debate years ago. Eventually, my colleague I. P. Freely and I convinced the gang to let 'er rip. I pee in scrapes too. Bring it, bucks. I challenge you. I think I'm gonna win.
I personally havent had a problem with it. In fact one morning I shot two bucks not 10 yards from the spot
I had always just gone pee but in a side note when fishing I do the same thing and there too it seems to up the catch ratio. Who knows were outdoors men not scientist.
CaptChuck57
Dream on, buckwheat!
PS: I did not give you any of the -1's you received! LOL
story my dad told me about how he got his big buck when he came home from deer camp; he took a leek on the log 15 feet from his area where he was sitting, and about an hour later he woke up to a grunt. yeah he fell asleep, but there was a but right by that watered log, and boy was that deer pissed, grunting and kicking, but a 12 gauge put an end to that.
I always go off the stand during rifle season, but try to hold it when bow hunting. Also, to add to what MLH said, try to avoid getting any on the ladder rungs of the stand where you put your hands climbing back down.
Also try to avoid your bibs and other clothes. might get a little messy.
I just let it go. Don't want to carry around a bottle full of pee.
At the house my wife had trouble with the deer eating her flowers next to the house. I (jokingly) told her human urine would drive deer away. For weeks she would collect her urine and pour it around her flowers.
The deer continued to eat her flowers and when she realized the joke she killed me in my sleep (at least she wanted to!).
Actually it seemed to attract the deer.
some deer may be curious and come in but that old buck knows the deal
Seriously I don't know how CaptChuck57 can get negative for his pointing out the clearly undersized mouth opening of a regular soda bottle. Not to mention the juggling act that insues if your hands are numb and shaking or god forbid you had too much coffee and you fill her up before you are done. I personally prefered the liter of cola bottles.
But I peed on my hand enough times and the act of carrying my pee out of the woods with me became too much and I now let fly in the woods. Matter of fact got my first bow kill 6 seasons ago with my fly still open.
I let it go, one guy in our camp routinely goes #2 under his stand and still kills a deer every year.
Thanks for the tip thats one less item to lug around in the backwoods!
Kathy Etling dicussed this at legnth in her book "Hunting Superbucks", even the debate on the "beans" scene from blazing saddles and the resultant byproproduct. I, like her, decided long ago that uric acid was a main component of all urine and not unique to humans. SO let her fly!
I do, however, believe that dependent on what you consumed for dinner, defacation should be a long way away from your stand. We are meat eaters and that is given away by our scat. If you have ever witnessed a deer encountering fresh coyote scat you understand exactly what I am saying.
This blog topic came at just the right time. This past Saturday I was sitting in a stand from which I bagged a 10 pointer two weeks ago and I couldn't hold the pee back any longer so I let'r rip. I've been wondering ever since if I screwed up that stand location. Sounds like I'm good to go. WHEW!!!
Wonderful advice! Not for me though, it's tough for girls to pee off tree stands, being setters not pointers. I'll keep holding my water, as they don't make a "Sportsman's Pal" for lady plumbing.
A couple of years ago during the Wisconsin gun opener, I had an unually active bladder and had urinated several times from my stand. As the day progressed I had eaten a small candy bar and the wrapper had falled to the ground about 10 feet from where I had urinated. I had a mature buck came under my stand with his nose to the ground, the buck proceeded to push his nose directly through the wet leaves full of my urine and kept right on going. When he reached the candy wrapper he near fell over, he jumped about six feet up the hill and continued on his way looking back at that wrapper as he left the area. I am a firm believer that human urine doesn't bother deer.
thanks guys i;m going to let it fly
I don't think captchuck57 was bragging, he just has bad aim.
I have been ( letting ) it fly for the past 54 years now, and never had a problem spooking deer.
Bella, you need to get a ground BLIND for SURE.
A heavy duty ziplock bag works well as long as you don't put too much stress on it. It's easy to carry and I empty mine when I get a couple of hundred yards away from my stand.
I pee from my tree. I see plenty of nice bucks. I would guess if it were a daily occurrence it might make a difference.
I don't do it I go away from the area, but this may change if
it works for y'all. :)
No more bottle for me either anymore. Might even try to make a mock scrape and pee in it, see what happens.
I used to pee in the woods all the time. Then when I started to get into scent control, I would pee when I got out of the truck and only in the woods when I had to go badly. Now I am going to take a piss everywhere in the woods.
I urinate in mock scrapes,near feeders,next to the winter wheat ... anyplace that the deer find favorable.This allows the deer time to become familiar with the scent,and they don't associate it with danger.
When I am in a tree stand, I place the largest flat rock I can find close enough,so when I have to let it fly the flow hits the flat rock like a horse or large deer is doing his duty.
This ploy has produced a few half crazed bucks comin' in lookin' for the relieved pee'er.
Just so y'all know, my comment was just a light-hearted joke to get through a busy Monday. My apologies if anyone took offense. This really is a very interesting topic.
vtbluegrass - you're right, I have often been accused of poor aim, especially by females going to the head after me!
I don't think it makes much difference now, but deer are going to learn to associate the smell with humans. It may take them quite a while but sooner or later they will. For many years, deer seldom looked up in the trees, but over the years they have learned that danger can come from above.
The rut is really starting to heat up in Ohio. I am seeing a lot of activity along rub lines and scrapes. Deer sightings have also increased. the rut should be in full swing this week and next week Good LUck
So Dr. Hollywood´s girlfriend has been wrong all this time.
That´s a relief.
Have always wondered, if wolves and bears don´t hide their leaks, why would we?
If they leave an area every time they smell predator urine, there would be no place to go.
Anyway, I have tought about making deer associate human urine with food and let it fly around feeders.
I didn't know that deer could identify carnivores by the odor of their scat. I wonder now if the "beans" scene from Blazing Saddles would be a similar giveaway.
Used to walk about 50 yards from my stand when I was a teenager to pee. Noticed that deer would go over and stick their nose down in it and get a good whiff and then start pawing the ground up. Started peeing in scrapes after that. Drove bucks crazy. They would come in grunting and snorting, then tear the ground up and pee on top of it. Always filled my tags that way.
Just let it fly! I think the odor makes deer curious and they come in to investigate.
If they can detect pheromones in their own urine, I'd think they know ours – at least from time to time, depending on diet. I look at it this way: if I force myself to shower at 3:30 a.m. in scent-free soap, wash my clothes in scent-free detergent every time I go, go through the hassle of dressing in the cold dark November morning and spraying my boots, hat, everything, I'll damn sure do something as simple as piss in a bottle rather than all over the ground. You can give me every anecdote you want, I take my hunt too seriously to base my methods on hearsay and limited experiences. I've seen them not react to my urine on the ground. I've also seen them not react to being directly downwind of me when I took no scent-eliminating precautions. But does that mean either of those things will happen when the buck of a lifetime comes strolling down my creek ditch? I don't know. And I'm not risking it. Good luck piss pots.
Bella, you might try going to the airport or a pilot supply store and ask for the "Jills John". Or try sporty's.com. You can order one.
Pee away guys. No problem.
As for farting, most seem to sound like a snort or grunt to a deer. Let the wind blow.
Well, I certainly won't miss carrying that bottle. But am I the only one who used it as a hand warmer on cold days?
This may be my favorite Scott Bestul blog. I have been lmao. A friend of mine and I got into this discussion TONIGHT on the phone. I didn't see the blog until after our conversation. I too would like to see some research-the anecdotal stuff is hilarious and interesting (what guy-or Bella-doesn't get a kick out of bodily excretions?) but it doesn't surprise me that most people and some research seems to indicate it has no bearing. The first thing any creature, human or otherwise, will notice when smelling pee that it smells like pee. Closer inspection may reveal that it isn't deer pee, but by that time it may be too late. I may not pee from my stand at deer camp next week, but if I gotta go, I'm gonna make a scrape and see what happens.
Just got back from huntin could'nt resist letting her rip on seveal occaisions,like all day. Next day I had a fresh scrape & rub behind my stand. I.m convinced
I used to worry about this issue, but I forgot my bottle one year and had to go. Walked 15 yards from my stand pissed and went back to the stand. Shot my deer within 10 yards of where I had went. Last year pee'd out of my stand and shot a nice buck day one, and a nice doe day two. The scent hiding folks have a lot of people bushwacked on these ideas is what I think.
If you're not a horn hunter, and just want meat letting it fly anywhere works too, but don't try this at home!
JUST LET'ER RIP EVERY TIME I'VE PISSED OUT OF MY STAND SEEN DEER TRUE BELIEVER.
If there is a tree, bush, stump, or even a weed near by I let it fly cause why strain your bladder and hold it in, or why try to pee in a bottle when there are plants near by that need a good watering.
It's not as easy for us gals to pee in a bottle...so I never had done it....However there are certain times during the month when my husband thinks my outdoor relief does draw in the bucks...we have hunted together for years and he claims to have had great opportunities as certain times of the month if I am in the stand or blind near him
I don't pay attention to where I wiz.And I read about peeing on mock scrapes in Feild and Stream and it's appearently more economical than buying the bottled stuff.
Also it's better to have an empty bladder when it's cold out because your body wastes alot of heat keeping it warm or else you'd get a bladder infection.
i belive that most hunters have done this a time or two.
Coho310 said, "I don't pay attention to where I wiz."
If you're married, I'd LOVE to hear your wife's response to that. If you aren't married, I may know why not.
i have found over the years it "is" better to pee in a bottle,just for the simple fact that i don't want to lower my hunting equipment into wet leaves.so i attached a hose to my pee bottle,run the hose out bout twenty feet from my tree now have a setup that works for me gun or bow.this setup also works for my wife it took a little work for her but she finally got it without fallen out of the stand
Cheap Shot-I mean when I'm hunting(good one though).
Bella has a point. For women, especially with many layers of clothing peeing anywhere in the woods can be problematic.
There is a product on the market called, "P-Mate", that is designed for women to help overcome that problem. They have a website. The product is a collapsible cardboard tube that acts as a funnel.
I own a package of them, but had not been desperate enough to give it a try ( but I don't stand hunt).
For women hunters, you should check it out.
i wouldnt pee out of my tree stand i wouldnt want it all around where i walk or on my tree so a deer could smell it and look up at you sure wouldnt want it on my feet,and most of you old guys cant pee far enough to miss your tree stand,lol,and besides that warm bottle comes in handy some times when your fingers are cold
and the guy with the wide mouth bottle ,why dont ya just use a quart jar then
Guess I'll have to give this a try. That dang bottle can be noisy in my belt pack and it would free up a little room for another grunt tube, can call, etc.
Buckhunter, wish i knew that because i was holding it forever while in your stand. Otherwise, when i'm in MY stand I let it fly.
i have peed off of my tree stand countless times and yet i've had deer come right up to me.
Appreciate the import, but, way TMI.
LOL
I used to carry 2 bottles of water in pee out, now I've graduated to depends, love the warm cozy feeling.
Steve182,
Thanks for not pissing out of my stand. My B-in-law took an 8 point out of it Saturday night.
The only thing that has kept me from whizzing off of the stand is the noise factor. I spooked a few does that were bedded near my stand one cold morning. Turning on the hose from 20' up on a frozen leaf bed can be very noisy.
to pee or not to pee????? well i pee, and last friday i shot one of the nices bucks that i have seen in a long time, if it was from my pee or just in the right spot at the right time i will never know but what i do know is that he didn't spook from it.
I never have used a bottle and it seem to have never been a bad thing. I feel relaxed on the stand and see my share of deer.
Sorry coho310. That was a "Cheap Shot"! ;-) What can I say. I couldn't pass it up. ;-) (Yeah, I knew what you meant.)
All hunters should be conservationists, and for me, that means doing the occasional trip down a ditchline cleaning up litter. More often than you would think, people, mainly truckers, piss in bottles and toss them out. The temptation, when you're hauling a bag of trash, is to dump bottle contents out to lighten your load. Opening one of these "Truck Bombs" can be NASTY and something you don't want to repeat. I never liked dealing with my own bottles much less someone else's. Mine certainly won't be missed.
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urine is a natural odor no matter what animal or person it came from and wont bother deer at all so pee away
and to "captchuck57" the guys who always brag have the smallest package lol
I've witnessed bucks walk directly underneath me to check out my tinkle. Pee away.
I don't think captchuck57 was bragging, he just has bad aim.
Same as buckhunter. Never had a deer shy away from it. Never used a pee bottle and killed several deer.
This year I started using a pee bottle after everyone told me it was bad to pee where you hunt. Well, they were wrong. I got my first deer, a 9 pointer, this year not ten minutes after peeing out of the stand. He walked right up to me, with the wind in his face. That day I frogot the bottle and everyday after that!! It does not seem to bother the doe either. Yesterday I had one come up behind me, no shot, but still, it did not seem to bother them I had peed all day from the stand. It does seem to bother coons a little though once they get close. Last week a coon come right under my stand, smell where I peed, and took off like some lit a fire under his rear. So, I agree, pee on!!!
Let it rip, especially in scrapes. I do try to remember to clear the leaves out besides my stand, though, so it isn't so loud. And also remember not to lower my gear there.
Oh, if you do use a bottle, best to use a cola bottle so that the color difference is obvious.
WAS a "bottle-baby" now it's "LET ER' FLY"
Seriously I don't know how CaptChuck57 can get negative for his pointing out the clearly undersized mouth opening of a regular soda bottle. Not to mention the juggling act that insues if your hands are numb and shaking or god forbid you had too much coffee and you fill her up before you are done. I personally prefered the liter of cola bottles.
But I peed on my hand enough times and the act of carrying my pee out of the woods with me became too much and I now let fly in the woods. Matter of fact got my first bow kill 6 seasons ago with my fly still open.
Wonderful advice! Not for me though, it's tough for girls to pee off tree stands, being setters not pointers. I'll keep holding my water, as they don't make a "Sportsman's Pal" for lady plumbing.
Just so y'all know, my comment was just a light-hearted joke to get through a busy Monday. My apologies if anyone took offense. This really is a very interesting topic.
vtbluegrass - you're right, I have often been accused of poor aim, especially by females going to the head after me!
never used a bottle. never will.
i would love to see some scientific research on this stuff
A couple of years ago during the Wisconsin gun opener, I had an unually active bladder and had urinated several times from my stand. As the day progressed I had eaten a small candy bar and the wrapper had falled to the ground about 10 feet from where I had urinated. I had a mature buck came under my stand with his nose to the ground, the buck proceeded to push his nose directly through the wet leaves full of my urine and kept right on going. When he reached the candy wrapper he near fell over, he jumped about six feet up the hill and continued on his way looking back at that wrapper as he left the area. I am a firm believer that human urine doesn't bother deer.
If they can detect pheromones in their own urine, I'd think they know ours – at least from time to time, depending on diet. I look at it this way: if I force myself to shower at 3:30 a.m. in scent-free soap, wash my clothes in scent-free detergent every time I go, go through the hassle of dressing in the cold dark November morning and spraying my boots, hat, everything, I'll damn sure do something as simple as piss in a bottle rather than all over the ground. You can give me every anecdote you want, I take my hunt too seriously to base my methods on hearsay and limited experiences. I've seen them not react to my urine on the ground. I've also seen them not react to being directly downwind of me when I took no scent-eliminating precautions. But does that mean either of those things will happen when the buck of a lifetime comes strolling down my creek ditch? I don't know. And I'm not risking it. Good luck piss pots.
I see you've been using a Diet Mountain Dew bottle as your…uhhh…"repository". Isn't that somewhat redundant?
No experience with peeing over the side -- I usually try to start the morning with the gauge on "E" and tough it out until it's time to climb down. Yes, it's uncomfortable. But the added bonus is, it keeps you awake. A little twitchy, but awake nonetheless.
I actually had a different question concerning the other side of the shop. What does a fella do when the need arises to re-create the "beans" scene from Blazing Saddles? Stifle, or let fly under the excuse that it sounds just like a snort-wheeze? Just curious. -Bob
Is the picture a bottle of Mountain Dew or warm recycled Mountain Dew? I usually carry a bottle with a handle & a short rope to tie it to the stand. It looks nothing like my drink bottle. But, I'm thinking about giving up the bottle. More & more hunters seem to be reaching the conclusion that it doesn't matter.
I used to carry a bottle, but articles from you guys (and others) have led me to quit that habit. I'm glad to be rid of the practice, too.
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Evan!
I just let it fly and I also pee in my mock scrapes. Like you said, there is a lot of research that proves that there is nothing to worry about.
I've never peed of a stand and probably never will. People have been doing studies and supposedly it doesn't spook deer, but the way I see it is why take the chance. What if you pee of your stand and a monster buck walks by and happens to spook from the smell. Then you would be wishing you had just peed in the bottle. All I'm saying is why take the chance, you never know.
Matt
theoutdoorfever.com
I had always just gone pee but in a side note when fishing I do the same thing and there too it seems to up the catch ratio. Who knows were outdoors men not scientist.
story my dad told me about how he got his big buck when he came home from deer camp; he took a leek on the log 15 feet from his area where he was sitting, and about an hour later he woke up to a grunt. yeah he fell asleep, but there was a but right by that watered log, and boy was that deer pissed, grunting and kicking, but a 12 gauge put an end to that.
I always go off the stand during rifle season, but try to hold it when bow hunting. Also, to add to what MLH said, try to avoid getting any on the ladder rungs of the stand where you put your hands climbing back down.
I have been ( letting ) it fly for the past 54 years now, and never had a problem spooking deer.
Bella, you need to get a ground BLIND for SURE.
I don't think it makes much difference now, but deer are going to learn to associate the smell with humans. It may take them quite a while but sooner or later they will. For many years, deer seldom looked up in the trees, but over the years they have learned that danger can come from above.
The rut is really starting to heat up in Ohio. I am seeing a lot of activity along rub lines and scrapes. Deer sightings have also increased. the rut should be in full swing this week and next week Good LUck
Used to walk about 50 yards from my stand when I was a teenager to pee. Noticed that deer would go over and stick their nose down in it and get a good whiff and then start pawing the ground up. Started peeing in scrapes after that. Drove bucks crazy. They would come in grunting and snorting, then tear the ground up and pee on top of it. Always filled my tags that way.
Well, I certainly won't miss carrying that bottle. But am I the only one who used it as a hand warmer on cold days?
I used to carry 2 bottles of water in pee out, now I've graduated to depends, love the warm cozy feeling.
You mean I've been skipping my coffee before going out for no valid reason?
Cohorts and I had this debate years ago. Eventually, my colleague I. P. Freely and I convinced the gang to let 'er rip. I pee in scrapes too. Bring it, bucks. I challenge you. I think I'm gonna win.
I personally havent had a problem with it. In fact one morning I shot two bucks not 10 yards from the spot
Also try to avoid your bibs and other clothes. might get a little messy.
I just let it go. Don't want to carry around a bottle full of pee.
At the house my wife had trouble with the deer eating her flowers next to the house. I (jokingly) told her human urine would drive deer away. For weeks she would collect her urine and pour it around her flowers.
The deer continued to eat her flowers and when she realized the joke she killed me in my sleep (at least she wanted to!).
Actually it seemed to attract the deer.
some deer may be curious and come in but that old buck knows the deal
I let it go, one guy in our camp routinely goes #2 under his stand and still kills a deer every year.
Thanks for the tip thats one less item to lug around in the backwoods!
Kathy Etling dicussed this at legnth in her book "Hunting Superbucks", even the debate on the "beans" scene from blazing saddles and the resultant byproproduct. I, like her, decided long ago that uric acid was a main component of all urine and not unique to humans. SO let her fly!
I do, however, believe that dependent on what you consumed for dinner, defacation should be a long way away from your stand. We are meat eaters and that is given away by our scat. If you have ever witnessed a deer encountering fresh coyote scat you understand exactly what I am saying.
This blog topic came at just the right time. This past Saturday I was sitting in a stand from which I bagged a 10 pointer two weeks ago and I couldn't hold the pee back any longer so I let'r rip. I've been wondering ever since if I screwed up that stand location. Sounds like I'm good to go. WHEW!!!
thanks guys i;m going to let it fly
A heavy duty ziplock bag works well as long as you don't put too much stress on it. It's easy to carry and I empty mine when I get a couple of hundred yards away from my stand.
I pee from my tree. I see plenty of nice bucks. I would guess if it were a daily occurrence it might make a difference.
I don't do it I go away from the area, but this may change if
it works for y'all. :)
No more bottle for me either anymore. Might even try to make a mock scrape and pee in it, see what happens.
I used to pee in the woods all the time. Then when I started to get into scent control, I would pee when I got out of the truck and only in the woods when I had to go badly. Now I am going to take a piss everywhere in the woods.
I urinate in mock scrapes,near feeders,next to the winter wheat ... anyplace that the deer find favorable.This allows the deer time to become familiar with the scent,and they don't associate it with danger.
When I am in a tree stand, I place the largest flat rock I can find close enough,so when I have to let it fly the flow hits the flat rock like a horse or large deer is doing his duty.
This ploy has produced a few half crazed bucks comin' in lookin' for the relieved pee'er.
So Dr. Hollywood´s girlfriend has been wrong all this time.
That´s a relief.
Have always wondered, if wolves and bears don´t hide their leaks, why would we?
If they leave an area every time they smell predator urine, there would be no place to go.
Anyway, I have tought about making deer associate human urine with food and let it fly around feeders.
I didn't know that deer could identify carnivores by the odor of their scat. I wonder now if the "beans" scene from Blazing Saddles would be a similar giveaway.
Just let it fly! I think the odor makes deer curious and they come in to investigate.
Bella, you might try going to the airport or a pilot supply store and ask for the "Jills John". Or try sporty's.com. You can order one.
Pee away guys. No problem.
As for farting, most seem to sound like a snort or grunt to a deer. Let the wind blow.
This may be my favorite Scott Bestul blog. I have been lmao. A friend of mine and I got into this discussion TONIGHT on the phone. I didn't see the blog until after our conversation. I too would like to see some research-the anecdotal stuff is hilarious and interesting (what guy-or Bella-doesn't get a kick out of bodily excretions?) but it doesn't surprise me that most people and some research seems to indicate it has no bearing. The first thing any creature, human or otherwise, will notice when smelling pee that it smells like pee. Closer inspection may reveal that it isn't deer pee, but by that time it may be too late. I may not pee from my stand at deer camp next week, but if I gotta go, I'm gonna make a scrape and see what happens.
Just got back from huntin could'nt resist letting her rip on seveal occaisions,like all day. Next day I had a fresh scrape & rub behind my stand. I.m convinced
I used to worry about this issue, but I forgot my bottle one year and had to go. Walked 15 yards from my stand pissed and went back to the stand. Shot my deer within 10 yards of where I had went. Last year pee'd out of my stand and shot a nice buck day one, and a nice doe day two. The scent hiding folks have a lot of people bushwacked on these ideas is what I think.
If you're not a horn hunter, and just want meat letting it fly anywhere works too, but don't try this at home!
JUST LET'ER RIP EVERY TIME I'VE PISSED OUT OF MY STAND SEEN DEER TRUE BELIEVER.
If there is a tree, bush, stump, or even a weed near by I let it fly cause why strain your bladder and hold it in, or why try to pee in a bottle when there are plants near by that need a good watering.
Coho310 said, "I don't pay attention to where I wiz."
If you're married, I'd LOVE to hear your wife's response to that. If you aren't married, I may know why not.
20 oz bottles don't work for me....I need those wide-mouthed powerade bottles!
??? O"REALLY!
Everyone always tells me that peeing in a bottle isn't necessary, but I can't convince myself it won't spook the deer. I guess I'll be a pee-bottle user until the day I die! On all days hunts, like this Saturday coming up, I'll probably bring a half gallon jug to be safe!
CaptChuck57
Dream on, buckwheat!
PS: I did not give you any of the -1's you received! LOL
It's not as easy for us gals to pee in a bottle...so I never had done it....However there are certain times during the month when my husband thinks my outdoor relief does draw in the bucks...we have hunted together for years and he claims to have had great opportunities as certain times of the month if I am in the stand or blind near him
I don't pay attention to where I wiz.And I read about peeing on mock scrapes in Feild and Stream and it's appearently more economical than buying the bottled stuff.
Also it's better to have an empty bladder when it's cold out because your body wastes alot of heat keeping it warm or else you'd get a bladder infection.
i belive that most hunters have done this a time or two.
i have found over the years it "is" better to pee in a bottle,just for the simple fact that i don't want to lower my hunting equipment into wet leaves.so i attached a hose to my pee bottle,run the hose out bout twenty feet from my tree now have a setup that works for me gun or bow.this setup also works for my wife it took a little work for her but she finally got it without fallen out of the stand
Cheap Shot-I mean when I'm hunting(good one though).
Bella has a point. For women, especially with many layers of clothing peeing anywhere in the woods can be problematic.
There is a product on the market called, "P-Mate", that is designed for women to help overcome that problem. They have a website. The product is a collapsible cardboard tube that acts as a funnel.
I own a package of them, but had not been desperate enough to give it a try ( but I don't stand hunt).
For women hunters, you should check it out.
i wouldnt pee out of my tree stand i wouldnt want it all around where i walk or on my tree so a deer could smell it and look up at you sure wouldnt want it on my feet,and most of you old guys cant pee far enough to miss your tree stand,lol,and besides that warm bottle comes in handy some times when your fingers are cold
and the guy with the wide mouth bottle ,why dont ya just use a quart jar then
Guess I'll have to give this a try. That dang bottle can be noisy in my belt pack and it would free up a little room for another grunt tube, can call, etc.
Buckhunter, wish i knew that because i was holding it forever while in your stand. Otherwise, when i'm in MY stand I let it fly.
i have peed off of my tree stand countless times and yet i've had deer come right up to me.
Appreciate the import, but, way TMI.
LOL
Steve182,
Thanks for not pissing out of my stand. My B-in-law took an 8 point out of it Saturday night.
The only thing that has kept me from whizzing off of the stand is the noise factor. I spooked a few does that were bedded near my stand one cold morning. Turning on the hose from 20' up on a frozen leaf bed can be very noisy.
to pee or not to pee????? well i pee, and last friday i shot one of the nices bucks that i have seen in a long time, if it was from my pee or just in the right spot at the right time i will never know but what i do know is that he didn't spook from it.
I never have used a bottle and it seem to have never been a bad thing. I feel relaxed on the stand and see my share of deer.
Sorry coho310. That was a "Cheap Shot"! ;-) What can I say. I couldn't pass it up. ;-) (Yeah, I knew what you meant.)
All hunters should be conservationists, and for me, that means doing the occasional trip down a ditchline cleaning up litter. More often than you would think, people, mainly truckers, piss in bottles and toss them out. The temptation, when you're hauling a bag of trash, is to dump bottle contents out to lighten your load. Opening one of these "Truck Bombs" can be NASTY and something you don't want to repeat. I never liked dealing with my own bottles much less someone else's. Mine certainly won't be missed.
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