


November 23, 2009
Petzal's Picks For New Hunting Fashions
By David E. Petzal

Over the past summer, I’ve been wearing a line of trousers and shirts made by a new company called Eotac. It’s high-speed, low-drag stuff made for people who carry guns and (legally) shoot other people as a profession, which I do not do, but nonetheless I liked all of it very much. It’s well made, did not shrink over many washings, and is carefully thought out. Best of all, the trousers have elastic insets in the waist which allow you to stuff your massive guts inside and still be able to breathe.
Sleeping Indian specializes in top-end wool hunting gear, and is named after a mountain in Wyoming rather than after a somnolent aborigine. Its Mountain Hunter Jacket is about the best thing I’ve seen for cold-weather hunting. What Sleeping Indian can do, which no one else can, as far as I know, is make one to fit you. I take a 2XL in most things, but I’m 5’10” instead of the 6’4” I should be, so the sleeves on most coats and jackets extend way past my fingertips. I had a Mountain Hunter Jacket made for me, and the first time I put it I nearly created an unmanly scene. I could see my hands! It’s expensive, but unless you pick fistfights with mountain lions you won’t even be able to make a dent in it, much less wear it out.
King of the Mountain competes directly with Sleeping Indian and makes a wide variety of wool gear, but the most useful item is their Bushman Shirt (shown above), which is so heavy that it can double as a jacket. Concealed buttons for archers, extra-long tails that don’t pull out of your pants, and warm? Hooh boy! The Bushman costs money, but the first time you wear it in really cold weather you’ll forget all about what you paid.
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Wow, talk about pricy! I'll have to stick to Cabela's and the local Wally...
A pair of pants that cost nearly 400 dollars had better come with a feature that would negate the desire to have a woman around.
That's good stuff alright. I have a bunch of Filson wool gear, Columbia Gallatin wool pants and jacket/shirts (x2) and Woolrich Camwoolflage pants and shirts, not to mention Cabela's Microtex Outfitter stuff.
For what I have invested in all that wardrobe, I could buy me a set of Sleeping Indian. If I choose the right one to wear, I never get cold, and I can wear a differnt 'fashion' every day! LOL Anyone hunting the Mountain West better have a good set of wool and a windproof shell for when the weather turns to snot.
Good stuff, Dave
Great. Now I have to look up "somnolent" in the dictionary.
I drool over Sleeping Indian gear. Clothes that fit are usually worth it and can last a lifetime, or more. But I keep telling myself, "Once I lose some weight ...." It might never happen.
With so many of us out of work and the econmy in the crapper we need to have reasonably priced hunting wear and firearms.
Not that I don't appreciate the features this clothing offers (I do) but let's face it, I'd rather wear some cheaper duds than sit home because I can't afford these high prices.
Same goes for the guns I buy, I'd love some fancy-schmancy import but I get by just fine with good old USA shootin' irons.
After being out in the woods overnight this year, I am seriously thinking of spending "gun money" on some outdoor clothes. Thanks for the tips Dave.
PS = Dave I feel like more of a man knowing that I am taller than you.
I can't get myself to spend a lot of money on something that the briars are just going to tear up. I'm much more comfortable wallowing around the bush in textile I don't have to protect.
WA Mnt Hunter = Yesterday was the end for me this season. "My" buck crossed the road at 5:45 -- 45 minutes after legal shooting time... He'll be bigger next year.
Did you do any good for deer or elk?
The price of those clothes do scare the bejeebers out of me but I do like nice stuff that earns their keep. I remember the first nice stuff I ever bought for myself. I was twenty years old and stationed at Ft. Bragg, '71. In town (Fayetteville), I bought three Pendleton wool shirts for $13 each, chump change now, but it was alot of money for me then but well worth it.
I have a columbia wool parka and it is a medium and is the closest size i can find that fits me but the sleeves are way to big and my bow string hits it when hunting. i have looked at the sleeping indian camo after a friend told me about but then i saw the $539 price tag and decided tha bagy sleves on my columbia wool jacket can work.
There is no way I would spend that kind of money on camo unless I was a guide or made a living wearing it.
I'd rather put money into boots than shirts and jackets. Boots are what get you there and back and I put many miles on mine each season. My choice-Lacross Alpha Lites, warm-waterproof-and very lightweight.
Nice lookin' jackets, but I don't know how much money I wanna spend on anything short of randsomed hunting or fishing gear. I think I'll take your advice on the reveiw and figure out how to make some more money.
Looks like some high quality stuff. The prices for hunting clothing are ridiculous. I shop at walmart and keep one heck of an eye out for clearances and bargain bins at the stores and online. I have it a little easier also being in the Army. I think the outdoor clothing industry are all off their rockers and won't pay that kind of bread.
this is like most things..."you get what you pay for"
Just had an epiphany (mhhm big word) Maybe just maybe someday soon we can get camo from Boss and Armani. Nice double breasted reversable suit one moment in the field next at church for the low price of $499
I'll stick with "my new line". The Nat Gear brand has been around for a little while. Comes insulated or non.
ALOT cheaper and the bobcats HATE it !
Just ask the 30lb.er', I "snuck up on" on Sat. !
Man, and I thought some of the Cabela's stuff was expensive... If I had the cash, sure I'd drop the dime on this stuff, but I'd get a different deer gun first. For now, my 870 slug gun & Cabela's Bargain Cave camo will have to do; they haven't let me down yet.
midmichhunter, Where do you live in Mich?
I tend to use old uniforms that are no longer serviceable. Also used to buy a lot of cheap military surplus and wear that, can't beat the price. German Flecktarn is some pretty good camo for fall deer hunting.
Too pricey for me, but I bet you could get it out to some of us to test!!
Once upon a time I travelled in those pricey circles, but it was only after I inherited the goods from a great uncle. After many years, the impecable hunting clothes and fine boots wore out and I sold the takedown Savage 99 with leather case so that I could buy two other rifles I'd been losing sleep over. But the best part of the inheritance may have been the two expensive, honey-colored, all-leather suitcases. Don't think for a minute that I didn't puff up when all eyes turned toward me as I lifted those babies off the airport carosels. But, alas, they too gave it up. Since then its been ratty boat bags, tattered duffles, and eBay bargains, a fitting comeuppance for the haughty airs I once feigned.
@Carney
I did not get a deer nor an elk this year. It was unseasonably warm in Colorado last month and the elk and deer were not moving. Our camp got three elk and three deer, but I did not even see an elk standing on his own four feet. Three Sunday's ago while rushing around to make it to church on time, I managed to jam my right foot into the door facing while exiting the bathroom and broke two toes. It was way too painful to walk in boots, so I bagged the late season in E. WA. Last week's wind storms made me think better of trying the late blacktail hunt in the 407. Whacked a few snow geese on Saturday morning. Don't have to walk much with the big black dog along.
How about you? Any elk hunting?
Best regards,
WMH
I think I'll stay with my Ballard cloth britches. $400 for a pair of bibs is out of my league.
I'll just wear my Filson Mackinaw Cruiser's while those less fortunate shiver and freeze in the snow and rain.
WAMtnhunter: I drew an elk permit in northeastern Nevada this year, passed up a small five-point bull the second day. Then, to my embarassment, I missed an average bull. My partner said it was 300 yards, but by the time it stopped in the pinion juniper and presented a shot, it was a good deal farther. Shot right under its brisket. You will be able to see my miss in all its glory on "On Your Own Adventures" on the Outdoor Channel sometime next fall. With my arthritic knees, I felt fortunate to have gotten a shot. I was resting over a spotting scope tripod at the shot. No excuses...I should have made the shot.
I am presently filling the freezer with whitetail does here in Montana. Most landowners won't let me shoot a buck, which irritates me.
Petzel, only a New Yorker would recommend a $500+ jacket w/ a straight face! To a bunch of hunters no less! Women must love your expensive taste!
It's great stuff, unless you hunt in the burr-infested canyons out here in CA. Ten minutes into the walk in, your pants legs will stick together like velcro.
Yeah, it's a long way from the MilSurp stuff I started in, but if anyone has priced a set of BDU pants lately... they cost more than a new pair of Levis!
If you can't afford it, don't buy it. You'll find something cheaper.
WA mnt Hunter = Check out my message on the Backlash and Blowback board titled, "What's your ethic?" to see how my elk season went. My son and I were on the Pacific Coast Trail north of Carson off of road 68 in Unit 572 when we spotted the big one...
Sorry to hear about your broken toes. That's probably someone's "reason #1482 of why I don't to attend church: 'statistics show that preparing for church can be crippling and totally ruin your hunting season...'" ;-)
I have been scrimping on all sorts of other stuff all of my 76 years in order to buy the best (and most expensive) clothing. I am still wearing most of it while my friends have had to replace their stuff many, many times. So, I have wound up saving lots of money in the long run. The best you can buy usually winds up being the cheapest. I have been trying to wear out Filson clothes for a very long time with no success.
tom
Carhart Bibs and Jacket work just fine for me.
JiminMO, I gotcha beat on a price for My First 3 Pendletons
$8.95 at the P.X. in Hanau Gemany in 1972, after that I bought 1 a year untill I retired even though the price went up last one was $42.50, by then I had 25, still have all of them and I have been retired 20 years, the first ones still look new and still FIT. {8^)
Moishe & JiminMo = Thanks for the Pendleton reminder! I live only 10 minutes away from the Pendleton Mill in Washougal, WA. Kind of like the people who live in New York but have never been to see the Statue of Liberty, it's been years since I visited the store there and had forgotten that they have very reasonable "seconds"! I think I know what I want for Christmas!!
how about recommending cloting that normal people can afford. no way i'm gonna drop 500 dollars for a jacket! dave, you look taller than you are.
Moishe-
Again I find myself in total agreement. I wore Carhart bibs and a Colombia parka for outer garments during an elk hunt in O-5° weather at 7400 - 8000' and was perfectly warm and dry. Carhart's new cammo patterns also are the blend in anywhere type.
Jeeez, when it's so cold that silk long johns, fleece layers, and wool (windproof sweater also) doesn't keep me warm, my ass stays indoors with a good gun book or magazine and maybe the outdoor channel. I've gotten older; with age comes wisdom. There were many days in the past when ducks, geese, deer, etc. were more important than the inclement weather I hunted in. I will let the younger generation have a few of these learning experiences in the great outdoors.
Is this clothing
1. Quiet or noisy, and
2. Odorless or stinky? I used some synthetic clothing a couple of years back that sounded like tearing a sheet of paper every time a branch brushed against it. And I have some polypro that, while it keeps you warm, stinks so bad with sweat that all you have to do is stand upwind of a deer; the smell puts him down (just kidding. Actually, he snorts, wheels, and runs away laughing).
Nice stuff for sure...but I use most of the commercial stuff most of you use here. Columbia, and the Guide Series(Tech-O)from Gander Mountain with some Woolrich items mixed in, as well.
I shop around for good prices, but you gotta spend a few dollars to get good stuff; that's just the way it is!
All;
After a long drawn-out trip home from Iraq (two engine shut-downs, one was over the North Atlantic). I finally got to go elk hunting Thursday/Friday of two-weeks ago. The General Season had closed for most of WY, so I was just hunting cows on a ranch up near Lusk.
More human tracks than elk tracks unfortunately. No elk that I could find. I must have jumped about 100 mule deer. The rut was on, and I saw some really impressive bucks frozen in their tracks, waiting for the doe to get up. I probably could have killed them with rocks they were so focused!
I do have 2 "Antlerless Mule Deer" tags for my cousin's ranch up in Montana and have plans to hunt this Saturday. I'm going to shoot one with my 375 Ruger, I'll let you guys know how it turns out.
I finally got some primers that I ordered from Cabela's in April. Now I can do some reloading for next year (Lord Willin' and all the props keep turnin'). Only the large pistol primers are still on backorder.
AKX
Oh yeah, the clothes!
I too have lusted after the Sleeping Indian stuff before. Probably like that Seiko watch I wore for 20 years or that pair of Nikon binoculars I bought last year, once you buy the good stuff, you wonder why you suffered with cheap stuff for so long.
I never regret buying the best stuff, I just regret not buying it sooner, when I finally do pull the trigger.
A few years ago I was thinking of buying a new electric guitar. My wife suggested that I get a good one, so I did. I bought a Gibson, Les Paul model, and I get offers to buy it whenever I show it to anyone who appreciates such things. I could sell it now for nearly twice what I paid, but I would not (Gibson no longer makes that particular model). It's that good, I wouldn't trade it for a left handed Model 70.
You get what you pay for.
Like the man said, "Smoke 'em if you got 'em".
I have had enough things foul up an elk hunt without letting inadequate clothing be one of them. Every year, I hear guys talking about buying this or that clothing to go hunting. Aside from a few socks and replacing lost gloves or a new "fashion hat", I don't think I have bought any new clothes in years. Buying cheap clothes (or rifles) is false economy. I think I am going to buy an extra set of Cabela's Microtex Outfitter before some genius decides to stop selling it.
tomwarner has it right. Buy once cry once. If you guys would quit buying those junky rifles you could pick one thing a year to upgrade. The SI stuff is quality. It is not, however, the only solution you will ever need which the price inherently implies. For example, high wind means you may get chilled with only the shirt and undergarments. But, it is top notch and enjoy mine. Wool is its own thing.
I do have SOME Filson gear the Belts are great, and a coulple of their shirts but like Pendleton shirts better. But the don't go to the woods, just out with me & my honey.
Anytime talk of camo stuff comes up around our camp, I just get up and walk away. Personally, I put on my old Carhart coverall's, my orange, and go to the woods. If you're going to spend a ton of money on something I would think that boots and ammo(plus time at the range) would be money better spent. If my feet get cold/wet - I'm done. Back to camp or truck I go. Where I hunt, you would need 3 different sets of camo. Green stuff for early bow season, brown for mid season, and grey for late. I'd hate to think what that would cost! A hunting buddy of mine swears by his camo. He says it lets you get closer to the game. So how close do you need to be? About 100ft. is as close as I need with the bow. Would close enough to count the eyelashes be close enough? HAHA I think that if a deer picks you up visually it's because of something you've done. We all get the fidgits sooner or later, after all we're only human. Point is, take the time to cover yourself, brush in your stands/blinds and sit as still as you can for as long as you can. Usually works out fine for me. But then what do I know - I hunt in Oklahoma scrub oak and fields of grass. HAHA
Great new Animal Track app out in the App Store. Pretty useful, look for MyNature Animal Tracks.
MidnightBanjo-
You make a good point. Unless OK has changed the laws, one must wear a minimum amount of Blaze orange during rifle season, I'm not sure about black powder season, and bow hunters may wear camo. I have always found Oklahoma deer to be just as keen in their sight and other senses as any other, maybe a bit more so due to intense hunting pressure due to a very short season. Good luck on the Okie deer!
crm
Well, letsee, last review was on an expensive knife that most of us wouldn't bother to buy. (It wouldn't have been my choice at any price). I think Mr. Petzal should start writing for one of those "exclusive" hunting mags where all the ads exhibit the priciest (not best) of items so F&S can employ a (more) knowledgeable writer to review affordable products for us "common man" subscribers. I would add that there are superior products for both items for less money. Articles reflective of both would be worth reading.
There are people on here with a LOT of money, poeple with enough to live comfortably (most of us I think) and some that are struggling, so your point is made. But lighten up a bit.
Meant for only two people they will know who they are.
I found a Sleeping Indian Designs, Mountain Hunter Jacket and a pair of pants that fit me when a local sporting goods business went under for half price and it was still like $350 but I went ahead and got them. Oh man! This stuff is outstanding! I could write many pages on the adventures that I got into while wearing this gear. The only problem was that I wore the pants out ( from the inside which took a lot of doing) and tossed them before I found out that I could have had them repaired or rebuilt at the factory. I have let my son have the jacket as I have "thickened" some and it is a little tight on me now. I want one more set before I am too old to go into the mountains. Yes they are that good! PS if you want to send me a new set to field test I promise to give them a thorough work out! (XL jacket and 36 waist pants)
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A pair of pants that cost nearly 400 dollars had better come with a feature that would negate the desire to have a woman around.
Petzel, only a New Yorker would recommend a $500+ jacket w/ a straight face! To a bunch of hunters no less! Women must love your expensive taste!
After being out in the woods overnight this year, I am seriously thinking of spending "gun money" on some outdoor clothes. Thanks for the tips Dave.
PS = Dave I feel like more of a man knowing that I am taller than you.
I have been scrimping on all sorts of other stuff all of my 76 years in order to buy the best (and most expensive) clothing. I am still wearing most of it while my friends have had to replace their stuff many, many times. So, I have wound up saving lots of money in the long run. The best you can buy usually winds up being the cheapest. I have been trying to wear out Filson clothes for a very long time with no success.
tom
how about recommending cloting that normal people can afford. no way i'm gonna drop 500 dollars for a jacket! dave, you look taller than you are.
Anytime talk of camo stuff comes up around our camp, I just get up and walk away. Personally, I put on my old Carhart coverall's, my orange, and go to the woods. If you're going to spend a ton of money on something I would think that boots and ammo(plus time at the range) would be money better spent. If my feet get cold/wet - I'm done. Back to camp or truck I go. Where I hunt, you would need 3 different sets of camo. Green stuff for early bow season, brown for mid season, and grey for late. I'd hate to think what that would cost! A hunting buddy of mine swears by his camo. He says it lets you get closer to the game. So how close do you need to be? About 100ft. is as close as I need with the bow. Would close enough to count the eyelashes be close enough? HAHA I think that if a deer picks you up visually it's because of something you've done. We all get the fidgits sooner or later, after all we're only human. Point is, take the time to cover yourself, brush in your stands/blinds and sit as still as you can for as long as you can. Usually works out fine for me. But then what do I know - I hunt in Oklahoma scrub oak and fields of grass. HAHA
Wow, talk about pricy! I'll have to stick to Cabela's and the local Wally...
That's good stuff alright. I have a bunch of Filson wool gear, Columbia Gallatin wool pants and jacket/shirts (x2) and Woolrich Camwoolflage pants and shirts, not to mention Cabela's Microtex Outfitter stuff.
For what I have invested in all that wardrobe, I could buy me a set of Sleeping Indian. If I choose the right one to wear, I never get cold, and I can wear a differnt 'fashion' every day! LOL Anyone hunting the Mountain West better have a good set of wool and a windproof shell for when the weather turns to snot.
Good stuff, Dave
I drool over Sleeping Indian gear. Clothes that fit are usually worth it and can last a lifetime, or more. But I keep telling myself, "Once I lose some weight ...." It might never happen.
With so many of us out of work and the econmy in the crapper we need to have reasonably priced hunting wear and firearms.
Not that I don't appreciate the features this clothing offers (I do) but let's face it, I'd rather wear some cheaper duds than sit home because I can't afford these high prices.
Same goes for the guns I buy, I'd love some fancy-schmancy import but I get by just fine with good old USA shootin' irons.
I can't get myself to spend a lot of money on something that the briars are just going to tear up. I'm much more comfortable wallowing around the bush in textile I don't have to protect.
WA Mnt Hunter = Yesterday was the end for me this season. "My" buck crossed the road at 5:45 -- 45 minutes after legal shooting time... He'll be bigger next year.
Did you do any good for deer or elk?
The price of those clothes do scare the bejeebers out of me but I do like nice stuff that earns their keep. I remember the first nice stuff I ever bought for myself. I was twenty years old and stationed at Ft. Bragg, '71. In town (Fayetteville), I bought three Pendleton wool shirts for $13 each, chump change now, but it was alot of money for me then but well worth it.
I have a columbia wool parka and it is a medium and is the closest size i can find that fits me but the sleeves are way to big and my bow string hits it when hunting. i have looked at the sleeping indian camo after a friend told me about but then i saw the $539 price tag and decided tha bagy sleves on my columbia wool jacket can work.
There is no way I would spend that kind of money on camo unless I was a guide or made a living wearing it.
I'd rather put money into boots than shirts and jackets. Boots are what get you there and back and I put many miles on mine each season. My choice-Lacross Alpha Lites, warm-waterproof-and very lightweight.
Nice lookin' jackets, but I don't know how much money I wanna spend on anything short of randsomed hunting or fishing gear. I think I'll take your advice on the reveiw and figure out how to make some more money.
Looks like some high quality stuff. The prices for hunting clothing are ridiculous. I shop at walmart and keep one heck of an eye out for clearances and bargain bins at the stores and online. I have it a little easier also being in the Army. I think the outdoor clothing industry are all off their rockers and won't pay that kind of bread.
Just had an epiphany (mhhm big word) Maybe just maybe someday soon we can get camo from Boss and Armani. Nice double breasted reversable suit one moment in the field next at church for the low price of $499
I'll stick with "my new line". The Nat Gear brand has been around for a little while. Comes insulated or non.
ALOT cheaper and the bobcats HATE it !
Just ask the 30lb.er', I "snuck up on" on Sat. !
@Carney
I did not get a deer nor an elk this year. It was unseasonably warm in Colorado last month and the elk and deer were not moving. Our camp got three elk and three deer, but I did not even see an elk standing on his own four feet. Three Sunday's ago while rushing around to make it to church on time, I managed to jam my right foot into the door facing while exiting the bathroom and broke two toes. It was way too painful to walk in boots, so I bagged the late season in E. WA. Last week's wind storms made me think better of trying the late blacktail hunt in the 407. Whacked a few snow geese on Saturday morning. Don't have to walk much with the big black dog along.
How about you? Any elk hunting?
Best regards,
WMH
I'll just wear my Filson Mackinaw Cruiser's while those less fortunate shiver and freeze in the snow and rain.
WA mnt Hunter = Check out my message on the Backlash and Blowback board titled, "What's your ethic?" to see how my elk season went. My son and I were on the Pacific Coast Trail north of Carson off of road 68 in Unit 572 when we spotted the big one...
Sorry to hear about your broken toes. That's probably someone's "reason #1482 of why I don't to attend church: 'statistics show that preparing for church can be crippling and totally ruin your hunting season...'" ;-)
Carhart Bibs and Jacket work just fine for me.
JiminMO, I gotcha beat on a price for My First 3 Pendletons
$8.95 at the P.X. in Hanau Gemany in 1972, after that I bought 1 a year untill I retired even though the price went up last one was $42.50, by then I had 25, still have all of them and I have been retired 20 years, the first ones still look new and still FIT. {8^)
Moishe & JiminMo = Thanks for the Pendleton reminder! I live only 10 minutes away from the Pendleton Mill in Washougal, WA. Kind of like the people who live in New York but have never been to see the Statue of Liberty, it's been years since I visited the store there and had forgotten that they have very reasonable "seconds"! I think I know what I want for Christmas!!
Moishe-
Again I find myself in total agreement. I wore Carhart bibs and a Colombia parka for outer garments during an elk hunt in O-5° weather at 7400 - 8000' and was perfectly warm and dry. Carhart's new cammo patterns also are the blend in anywhere type.
Jeeez, when it's so cold that silk long johns, fleece layers, and wool (windproof sweater also) doesn't keep me warm, my ass stays indoors with a good gun book or magazine and maybe the outdoor channel. I've gotten older; with age comes wisdom. There were many days in the past when ducks, geese, deer, etc. were more important than the inclement weather I hunted in. I will let the younger generation have a few of these learning experiences in the great outdoors.
Is this clothing
1. Quiet or noisy, and
2. Odorless or stinky? I used some synthetic clothing a couple of years back that sounded like tearing a sheet of paper every time a branch brushed against it. And I have some polypro that, while it keeps you warm, stinks so bad with sweat that all you have to do is stand upwind of a deer; the smell puts him down (just kidding. Actually, he snorts, wheels, and runs away laughing).
Nice stuff for sure...but I use most of the commercial stuff most of you use here. Columbia, and the Guide Series(Tech-O)from Gander Mountain with some Woolrich items mixed in, as well.
I shop around for good prices, but you gotta spend a few dollars to get good stuff; that's just the way it is!
All;
After a long drawn-out trip home from Iraq (two engine shut-downs, one was over the North Atlantic). I finally got to go elk hunting Thursday/Friday of two-weeks ago. The General Season had closed for most of WY, so I was just hunting cows on a ranch up near Lusk.
More human tracks than elk tracks unfortunately. No elk that I could find. I must have jumped about 100 mule deer. The rut was on, and I saw some really impressive bucks frozen in their tracks, waiting for the doe to get up. I probably could have killed them with rocks they were so focused!
I do have 2 "Antlerless Mule Deer" tags for my cousin's ranch up in Montana and have plans to hunt this Saturday. I'm going to shoot one with my 375 Ruger, I'll let you guys know how it turns out.
I finally got some primers that I ordered from Cabela's in April. Now I can do some reloading for next year (Lord Willin' and all the props keep turnin'). Only the large pistol primers are still on backorder.
AKX
Oh yeah, the clothes!
I too have lusted after the Sleeping Indian stuff before. Probably like that Seiko watch I wore for 20 years or that pair of Nikon binoculars I bought last year, once you buy the good stuff, you wonder why you suffered with cheap stuff for so long.
I never regret buying the best stuff, I just regret not buying it sooner, when I finally do pull the trigger.
A few years ago I was thinking of buying a new electric guitar. My wife suggested that I get a good one, so I did. I bought a Gibson, Les Paul model, and I get offers to buy it whenever I show it to anyone who appreciates such things. I could sell it now for nearly twice what I paid, but I would not (Gibson no longer makes that particular model). It's that good, I wouldn't trade it for a left handed Model 70.
You get what you pay for.
Like the man said, "Smoke 'em if you got 'em".
I have had enough things foul up an elk hunt without letting inadequate clothing be one of them. Every year, I hear guys talking about buying this or that clothing to go hunting. Aside from a few socks and replacing lost gloves or a new "fashion hat", I don't think I have bought any new clothes in years. Buying cheap clothes (or rifles) is false economy. I think I am going to buy an extra set of Cabela's Microtex Outfitter before some genius decides to stop selling it.
Great. Now I have to look up "somnolent" in the dictionary.
this is like most things..."you get what you pay for"
Too pricey for me, but I bet you could get it out to some of us to test!!
Once upon a time I travelled in those pricey circles, but it was only after I inherited the goods from a great uncle. After many years, the impecable hunting clothes and fine boots wore out and I sold the takedown Savage 99 with leather case so that I could buy two other rifles I'd been losing sleep over. But the best part of the inheritance may have been the two expensive, honey-colored, all-leather suitcases. Don't think for a minute that I didn't puff up when all eyes turned toward me as I lifted those babies off the airport carosels. But, alas, they too gave it up. Since then its been ratty boat bags, tattered duffles, and eBay bargains, a fitting comeuppance for the haughty airs I once feigned.
I think I'll stay with my Ballard cloth britches. $400 for a pair of bibs is out of my league.
WAMtnhunter: I drew an elk permit in northeastern Nevada this year, passed up a small five-point bull the second day. Then, to my embarassment, I missed an average bull. My partner said it was 300 yards, but by the time it stopped in the pinion juniper and presented a shot, it was a good deal farther. Shot right under its brisket. You will be able to see my miss in all its glory on "On Your Own Adventures" on the Outdoor Channel sometime next fall. With my arthritic knees, I felt fortunate to have gotten a shot. I was resting over a spotting scope tripod at the shot. No excuses...I should have made the shot.
I am presently filling the freezer with whitetail does here in Montana. Most landowners won't let me shoot a buck, which irritates me.
It's great stuff, unless you hunt in the burr-infested canyons out here in CA. Ten minutes into the walk in, your pants legs will stick together like velcro.
Yeah, it's a long way from the MilSurp stuff I started in, but if anyone has priced a set of BDU pants lately... they cost more than a new pair of Levis!
If you can't afford it, don't buy it. You'll find something cheaper.
tomwarner has it right. Buy once cry once. If you guys would quit buying those junky rifles you could pick one thing a year to upgrade. The SI stuff is quality. It is not, however, the only solution you will ever need which the price inherently implies. For example, high wind means you may get chilled with only the shirt and undergarments. But, it is top notch and enjoy mine. Wool is its own thing.
I do have SOME Filson gear the Belts are great, and a coulple of their shirts but like Pendleton shirts better. But the don't go to the woods, just out with me & my honey.
Great new Animal Track app out in the App Store. Pretty useful, look for MyNature Animal Tracks.
MidnightBanjo-
You make a good point. Unless OK has changed the laws, one must wear a minimum amount of Blaze orange during rifle season, I'm not sure about black powder season, and bow hunters may wear camo. I have always found Oklahoma deer to be just as keen in their sight and other senses as any other, maybe a bit more so due to intense hunting pressure due to a very short season. Good luck on the Okie deer!
crm
There are people on here with a LOT of money, poeple with enough to live comfortably (most of us I think) and some that are struggling, so your point is made. But lighten up a bit.
Man, and I thought some of the Cabela's stuff was expensive... If I had the cash, sure I'd drop the dime on this stuff, but I'd get a different deer gun first. For now, my 870 slug gun & Cabela's Bargain Cave camo will have to do; they haven't let me down yet.
midmichhunter, Where do you live in Mich?
I tend to use old uniforms that are no longer serviceable. Also used to buy a lot of cheap military surplus and wear that, can't beat the price. German Flecktarn is some pretty good camo for fall deer hunting.
Meant for only two people they will know who they are.
I found a Sleeping Indian Designs, Mountain Hunter Jacket and a pair of pants that fit me when a local sporting goods business went under for half price and it was still like $350 but I went ahead and got them. Oh man! This stuff is outstanding! I could write many pages on the adventures that I got into while wearing this gear. The only problem was that I wore the pants out ( from the inside which took a lot of doing) and tossed them before I found out that I could have had them repaired or rebuilt at the factory. I have let my son have the jacket as I have "thickened" some and it is a little tight on me now. I want one more set before I am too old to go into the mountains. Yes they are that good! PS if you want to send me a new set to field test I promise to give them a thorough work out! (XL jacket and 36 waist pants)
Well, letsee, last review was on an expensive knife that most of us wouldn't bother to buy. (It wouldn't have been my choice at any price). I think Mr. Petzal should start writing for one of those "exclusive" hunting mags where all the ads exhibit the priciest (not best) of items so F&S can employ a (more) knowledgeable writer to review affordable products for us "common man" subscribers. I would add that there are superior products for both items for less money. Articles reflective of both would be worth reading.
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