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November 09, 2009

Is This Sheboygan Falls, Wisconsin Buck the New World Record Typical Whitetail?

By Scott Bestul

A 12-point buck shot Nov. 5 in Sheboygan Falls, Wisc., will almost certainly become the new Pope & Young world record typical whitetail and has a strong shot at toppling the Milo Hansen buck from the top spot in the Boone & Crockett record book as well. The buck was taken by Michael Gregoire on his brother’s farm. It was 4 1/2 years old and grossed 217 5/8 inches typical when green-scored by an official Boone & Crockett scorer.

Stay tuned -- we've got a bigger story and lots more photos in the pipeline! Here's the full story, with 23 photos of the buck. --The Editors

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from buckhunter wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

That is a heck of a buck. Can't wait to see more photos of the rack in the future.

Congrats to the hunter.

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from ENO wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Is that a white tail buck or a moose? Awesome deer. Congrats to the hunter.

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from Big O wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

HOLY CRAP !
Glad someone else shot him. As on older guy, I'd have droped DEAD from a heart attack/stroke(combo) when I walked up on "my" deer !
CONGRATS !

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from DayneShuda wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

What a beauty!

A beautiful trophy photo to match the trophy buck. Congrats on the record, Michael. See you in the record books.

I love seeing Wisconsin up there in the books too. :-)

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from matakis wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Great buck. I dont think it will be a world record though. I dont even think it will be a Wisconsin record.

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from RichardF wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Not only is that an amazing buck but a great set of photos. This is the first BIG buck that we have on here that did not have a truck or ATV that the animal was restign on. Kudos on the buck and photos!

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from jamesti wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

are you sure about the world record status of that buck? it's awsome but not sure if it's bigger than the hanson buck.
pray for ft. hood

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from allengene c von... wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

wether it is or isn't the next world record still a hell've a great buck.good luck and congrats

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from Walt Smith wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Thats a damn fine buck!

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from jeffo52284 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

That is an amazing deer! cant wait to see more

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from walmsley wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

world record? NO WAY!

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from albertahunter wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

nice buck to say the least and good hunting.
I have seen the Hanson buck in person and was awed by the near perfection of each side and serious width. Dont think this one is going to top it but good luck. Either one would give me the shakes if fully seen before shooting thats for sure. Awsome animals.

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from bjohnston wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

A little bigger than a jackalope!!

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from 99explorer wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

The Milo Hansen buck green-scored 214 4/8 by an official Boone and Crockett scorer, so this is going to be close. This Gregoire buck has shorter but stouter beams and a smaller spread.

BTW, the Hansen buck was taken is Saskatchewan, Canada.

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from coho310 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Whoa,nice spread on that buck!

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from buckhunter wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

After viewing 23 additional photos if this buck I feel it has no chance. The mass is very uneven and the G2 on the right side of forked. It will be lucky to break 200 non typical score. Plus it's a 5x6 rack with a forked brow. It's too uneven to hold a high typical score. None the less, one hell of a buck.

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from Walt Smith wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Looking forward to seeing a different angle of this deer. The palmented horns remind me of the Jordan buck.

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from fliphuntr14 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Beautifully symmetrical lets see more pics if i shot that buck i would be jumping up and down in the picture... wisconsin putting up another great buck now i just have to see a good 1.

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from MNhunter23 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

If it grosses only 217, I think it has little chance to break the record after deductions. Like other posters have said, too many deductions from split G2 and browtine.

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from deadeyedick wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Truly , a monster deer no matter how the final score turns out. aaltho I would like to see the title of world record whitetail returned to the good ole USA

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from WhitetailHunter706 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Its a hell of a deer but world record?? idk about that but it is still a whopper good luck and i hope it makes the record im with the previous comentor it would be great to see the record back in U.S.A great job on a great deer cant wait to see more photos to get a good pic of record or not

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from steve182 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

That's a hog, but i think it has too many deductions to threaten the record. Great buck, nice mass. My guess is that the next record may indeed come from Wisconsin.

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from LBR wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

It's been a long time since the Jordan Buck and Wisconsin were No. 1, so it would be nice to see the Badger State back on top when it comes to big bucks.

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from t0u wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Very nice buck, congrats on the kill, hope to see more pictures and keep up the good hunting.

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from Dances with Deer wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

A great buck but who is your source on the typical score? Doesn't appear to be a quality 200+ candidate for typical, but it does certainly appear that large for non-typical. Either way, I certainly wouldn't pass it up. In fact, my safety harness might have been severely tested had I even seen this buck alive and in range!

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from dave the bowhunter wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

points dont look near long enough to be a new world record typical

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from tylerthomas6 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

i happened to take a nice buck on that very same day with a split brow tine like this one. i found out very quick how much deductions hurt a score. i think this one will have too many deductions to break the world record, but that's not taking anything away from how big he is. i've realized that the score is a nice thing to have, but whenever you shoot a big deer it really doesn't mean that much because you still have a trophy. it's more about the character in my book. nice deer!

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from ctbhb1 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Its not all about tine length. Look at the mass between points. Its over all inches. Plus an official already scored it, probably pretty accurate. He might lose those inches, having such a mass! Maybe he should put it in a humidor. That is three 200+ bucks in Wisconsin already this year!!! All from the Southern half of the state though, way up North where I am from, I have seen twice as many Bears and Wolves as deer.....

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from 2Poppa wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

I'm thinkin' like Big O ...

What a HOSS!
Great picture ... and no pick-up truck in sight!

Congratulations to the hunter.

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from stickbow13 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

awsome buck congrats.....we know how to grow them in wis,

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from Nick Jensen wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Sheboygan Falls is the town I grew up in. That buck was shot less than a mile from my uncles house, he saw it at 8 yards and judged it to be in the 180's. He was wrong.

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from idduckhntr wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

A friend of mine knows this guy and he is a class a prick and rumer has it he has been busted for shootin past hours before but still its one hell of a deer.

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from Kris24 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Everyone keeps saying "oh it has too many deductions". Read the post again. It says the deer green scored 217 5/8 typical. That would mean the side to side deductions have already been considered. If the original post is correct it has a chance. If they did not count the side to side deductions yet, then obviously it doesnt. We will see.

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from buckhunter wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Further research reveals the inside spread to be 16 1/2 inches and the bases are less than 7 inches each. If the total mass is 56 inches plus spread equals 72 1/2. I'll give the main beams 22 inches each for a 116 1/2. This means the remaining 10 points (I can only see 9) Needs to average nearly 10 inches each with absolutely zero deductions. I say the longest tine on this deer is 10 inches.

Don't get me wrong.. it's a hell of a buck but who the heck said this thing was even close to a world record?

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from anjadams wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

He is definitely a giant!

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from Kevin wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

This is a big buck but will not break the world record. There is a chance the web points will be counted as one tine that split, resulting in a big deductiob (The Curt Van Lith buck of MN has a similar tine but was counted as two tines). There is not nearly enough tine length and symmetry to break Mel Johnson's bow record, and it wouldn't even knock on the door of Milo Hanson's buck. This buck is a beautiful one though, full of mass and character, very unique. A trophy in all rights!

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from Kevin wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

This is a big buck but will not break the world record. There is a chance the web points will be counted as one tine that split, resulting in a big deduction (The Curt Van Lith buck of MN has a similar tine but was counted as two tines). There is not nearly enough tine length and symmetry to break Mel Johnson's bow record, and it wouldn't even knock on the door of Milo Hanson's buck. This buck is a beautiful one though, full of mass and character, very unique. A trophy in all rights!

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from jlbaxa wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

record or no record, what a buck....my heart pounds just to look at the picture

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from Del in KS wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

That is an awesome buck.

BTW according to the KC star sharpshooters have taken over 300 whitetails from Shawnee Mission park in Lenexa KS so far.

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from coho310 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

The antlers are tall and thick,just like the way we want our paychecks,but life's unfair...luckily,this guy stands a chance!Great deer,keep on hunting!

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from Pacific Hunter wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

This buck is a trophy of a lifetime though he will not approach 200 inches typical. The Green Gross may be 217 and change but gross score is total inches of antler with no deductions. This buck has 3 scorable normal points on the right antler plus main beam with a possible 6 on the left. That means that he will probably be scored as a main frame 8 and all other tines will be deducted. The split G2 on the right will not be scored as G2 G3 from the photo's. The only way this could be scored that way was if it is a common base point which the base of the tines must make a figure 8 to be scored as two tines webbed together, this deer does not have that hourglass shape. A basic way to figure out what a deer will score if it is completely symmetrical is take the shorter corresponding point and double it Left G1 is 8 Right G1 is ten, the score get's the shorter twice, the 2 inches on the longer G1 are lost to deductions. Unmatched tines are abnormal and a deduction.

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from idduckhntr wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Checked B&C web site and they claim this deer wont break the 200 mark still a hell of a buck for anyone to take.

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from tracy atchison wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

that is a nice buck but id be suppised if this deer nets 180 typical. it has no tine lenth good mass though

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from tracy atchison wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

ishot a 230 in nontypical this year with muzzleloader it grossed 193 typical with 7 in of main beam broke off no offense to this deer but there not even comparible id sure like to have the guy that scored this one to score mine id have the new world record

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from lange2331 wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

Every year there is a deer that people say might beat the hanson buck, last years kyle simmons buck appears to net 219 4/8 typical and 292 non typical by the measurements i've seen why isn't anyone talking about this deer being the new world record?

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from canadianbowhunter25 wrote 4 years 20 weeks ago

I dont think that there is any way this buck is going to break Milo's record. It is a very nice deer though. And to all you American hunters, you guys are just mad that you guys are just mad that the Hanson buck was taken in Canada, and not the USA. Good deer by any means though.

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from Big O wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

HOLY CRAP !
Glad someone else shot him. As on older guy, I'd have droped DEAD from a heart attack/stroke(combo) when I walked up on "my" deer !
CONGRATS !

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from buckhunter wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

That is a heck of a buck. Can't wait to see more photos of the rack in the future.

Congrats to the hunter.

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from albertahunter wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

nice buck to say the least and good hunting.
I have seen the Hanson buck in person and was awed by the near perfection of each side and serious width. Dont think this one is going to top it but good luck. Either one would give me the shakes if fully seen before shooting thats for sure. Awsome animals.

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from ENO wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Is that a white tail buck or a moose? Awesome deer. Congrats to the hunter.

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from DayneShuda wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

What a beauty!

A beautiful trophy photo to match the trophy buck. Congrats on the record, Michael. See you in the record books.

I love seeing Wisconsin up there in the books too. :-)

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from jamesti wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

are you sure about the world record status of that buck? it's awsome but not sure if it's bigger than the hanson buck.
pray for ft. hood

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from 99explorer wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

The Milo Hansen buck green-scored 214 4/8 by an official Boone and Crockett scorer, so this is going to be close. This Gregoire buck has shorter but stouter beams and a smaller spread.

BTW, the Hansen buck was taken is Saskatchewan, Canada.

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from tylerthomas6 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

i happened to take a nice buck on that very same day with a split brow tine like this one. i found out very quick how much deductions hurt a score. i think this one will have too many deductions to break the world record, but that's not taking anything away from how big he is. i've realized that the score is a nice thing to have, but whenever you shoot a big deer it really doesn't mean that much because you still have a trophy. it's more about the character in my book. nice deer!

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from idduckhntr wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Checked B&C web site and they claim this deer wont break the 200 mark still a hell of a buck for anyone to take.

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from RichardF wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Not only is that an amazing buck but a great set of photos. This is the first BIG buck that we have on here that did not have a truck or ATV that the animal was restign on. Kudos on the buck and photos!

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from allengene c von... wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

wether it is or isn't the next world record still a hell've a great buck.good luck and congrats

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from Walt Smith wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Thats a damn fine buck!

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from jeffo52284 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

That is an amazing deer! cant wait to see more

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from walmsley wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

world record? NO WAY!

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from bjohnston wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

A little bigger than a jackalope!!

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from coho310 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Whoa,nice spread on that buck!

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from MNhunter23 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

If it grosses only 217, I think it has little chance to break the record after deductions. Like other posters have said, too many deductions from split G2 and browtine.

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from t0u wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Very nice buck, congrats on the kill, hope to see more pictures and keep up the good hunting.

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from Dances with Deer wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

A great buck but who is your source on the typical score? Doesn't appear to be a quality 200+ candidate for typical, but it does certainly appear that large for non-typical. Either way, I certainly wouldn't pass it up. In fact, my safety harness might have been severely tested had I even seen this buck alive and in range!

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from ctbhb1 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Its not all about tine length. Look at the mass between points. Its over all inches. Plus an official already scored it, probably pretty accurate. He might lose those inches, having such a mass! Maybe he should put it in a humidor. That is three 200+ bucks in Wisconsin already this year!!! All from the Southern half of the state though, way up North where I am from, I have seen twice as many Bears and Wolves as deer.....

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from 2Poppa wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

I'm thinkin' like Big O ...

What a HOSS!
Great picture ... and no pick-up truck in sight!

Congratulations to the hunter.

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from Nick Jensen wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Sheboygan Falls is the town I grew up in. That buck was shot less than a mile from my uncles house, he saw it at 8 yards and judged it to be in the 180's. He was wrong.

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from buckhunter wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Further research reveals the inside spread to be 16 1/2 inches and the bases are less than 7 inches each. If the total mass is 56 inches plus spread equals 72 1/2. I'll give the main beams 22 inches each for a 116 1/2. This means the remaining 10 points (I can only see 9) Needs to average nearly 10 inches each with absolutely zero deductions. I say the longest tine on this deer is 10 inches.

Don't get me wrong.. it's a hell of a buck but who the heck said this thing was even close to a world record?

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from matakis wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Great buck. I dont think it will be a world record though. I dont even think it will be a Wisconsin record.

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from buckhunter wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

After viewing 23 additional photos if this buck I feel it has no chance. The mass is very uneven and the G2 on the right side of forked. It will be lucky to break 200 non typical score. Plus it's a 5x6 rack with a forked brow. It's too uneven to hold a high typical score. None the less, one hell of a buck.

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from Walt Smith wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Looking forward to seeing a different angle of this deer. The palmented horns remind me of the Jordan buck.

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from fliphuntr14 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Beautifully symmetrical lets see more pics if i shot that buck i would be jumping up and down in the picture... wisconsin putting up another great buck now i just have to see a good 1.

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from deadeyedick wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Truly , a monster deer no matter how the final score turns out. aaltho I would like to see the title of world record whitetail returned to the good ole USA

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from WhitetailHunter706 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Its a hell of a deer but world record?? idk about that but it is still a whopper good luck and i hope it makes the record im with the previous comentor it would be great to see the record back in U.S.A great job on a great deer cant wait to see more photos to get a good pic of record or not

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from steve182 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

That's a hog, but i think it has too many deductions to threaten the record. Great buck, nice mass. My guess is that the next record may indeed come from Wisconsin.

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from LBR wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

It's been a long time since the Jordan Buck and Wisconsin were No. 1, so it would be nice to see the Badger State back on top when it comes to big bucks.

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from dave the bowhunter wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

points dont look near long enough to be a new world record typical

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from stickbow13 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

awsome buck congrats.....we know how to grow them in wis,

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from idduckhntr wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

A friend of mine knows this guy and he is a class a prick and rumer has it he has been busted for shootin past hours before but still its one hell of a deer.

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from Kris24 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Everyone keeps saying "oh it has too many deductions". Read the post again. It says the deer green scored 217 5/8 typical. That would mean the side to side deductions have already been considered. If the original post is correct it has a chance. If they did not count the side to side deductions yet, then obviously it doesnt. We will see.

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from anjadams wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

He is definitely a giant!

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from Kevin wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

This is a big buck but will not break the world record. There is a chance the web points will be counted as one tine that split, resulting in a big deductiob (The Curt Van Lith buck of MN has a similar tine but was counted as two tines). There is not nearly enough tine length and symmetry to break Mel Johnson's bow record, and it wouldn't even knock on the door of Milo Hanson's buck. This buck is a beautiful one though, full of mass and character, very unique. A trophy in all rights!

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from Kevin wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

This is a big buck but will not break the world record. There is a chance the web points will be counted as one tine that split, resulting in a big deduction (The Curt Van Lith buck of MN has a similar tine but was counted as two tines). There is not nearly enough tine length and symmetry to break Mel Johnson's bow record, and it wouldn't even knock on the door of Milo Hanson's buck. This buck is a beautiful one though, full of mass and character, very unique. A trophy in all rights!

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from jlbaxa wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

record or no record, what a buck....my heart pounds just to look at the picture

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from Del in KS wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

That is an awesome buck.

BTW according to the KC star sharpshooters have taken over 300 whitetails from Shawnee Mission park in Lenexa KS so far.

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from coho310 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

The antlers are tall and thick,just like the way we want our paychecks,but life's unfair...luckily,this guy stands a chance!Great deer,keep on hunting!

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from Pacific Hunter wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

This buck is a trophy of a lifetime though he will not approach 200 inches typical. The Green Gross may be 217 and change but gross score is total inches of antler with no deductions. This buck has 3 scorable normal points on the right antler plus main beam with a possible 6 on the left. That means that he will probably be scored as a main frame 8 and all other tines will be deducted. The split G2 on the right will not be scored as G2 G3 from the photo's. The only way this could be scored that way was if it is a common base point which the base of the tines must make a figure 8 to be scored as two tines webbed together, this deer does not have that hourglass shape. A basic way to figure out what a deer will score if it is completely symmetrical is take the shorter corresponding point and double it Left G1 is 8 Right G1 is ten, the score get's the shorter twice, the 2 inches on the longer G1 are lost to deductions. Unmatched tines are abnormal and a deduction.

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from tracy atchison wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

that is a nice buck but id be suppised if this deer nets 180 typical. it has no tine lenth good mass though

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from tracy atchison wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

ishot a 230 in nontypical this year with muzzleloader it grossed 193 typical with 7 in of main beam broke off no offense to this deer but there not even comparible id sure like to have the guy that scored this one to score mine id have the new world record

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from lange2331 wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

Every year there is a deer that people say might beat the hanson buck, last years kyle simmons buck appears to net 219 4/8 typical and 292 non typical by the measurements i've seen why isn't anyone talking about this deer being the new world record?

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from canadianbowhunter25 wrote 4 years 20 weeks ago

I dont think that there is any way this buck is going to break Milo's record. It is a very nice deer though. And to all you American hunters, you guys are just mad that you guys are just mad that the Hanson buck was taken in Canada, and not the USA. Good deer by any means though.

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