


January 25, 2010
So, You Got a Gun Dog Pup. Now What?
By David DiBenedetto
Recently I’ve received a few e-mails from newbie gun dog owners who have just picked up their pup. The common theme among the emails is simple: “What next?” Well, that would require that I write a book, and there are plenty of good books on gun dog training.
But I do have a single bit of advice—OBEDIENCE! But don’t take my word for it. Here’s what Connie Cleveland, founder of the Dog Trainer’s Workshop in Fountain Inn, S.C., had to say about the topic when I asked her:
Basic obedience is the foundation for all training. A gun dog that is not obedient is of no use. Most of us, in our excitement to encourage our puppies to retrieve, either simply don't spend enough time on basic obedience, or do not have a high enough standard for the correct behaviors. Obviously, a young puppy can't be expected to be perfectly obedient. However, once the instinct to retrieve has been encouraged, the dog’s ability to become a great gun dog is going to be directly related to his obedience skills.
Amen, Connie. It has been just under a year since I picked up Pritch from the breeder (photo above with the Chief Spoiler—my wife), and I’ll admit I was much more concerned with retrieving skills than obedience. And I’m frequently reminded of this as we trod down Gun Dog Road. We’re working out the kinks, but I can promise you it’s a lot easier to correct your pup early than it is when some bad habits have taken hold.
That’s my advice to the new parents of gun dog pups. Anyone else have anything to add?
Comments (13)
I do a lot of traveling between home in South Carolina and school in Mississippi, so training my Boykin to relieve himself on command ("10-100" and "stool") has been helpful with pit stops. I don't have to wonder whether he will need to stop again in 20 minutes. The commands were also helpful in housebreaking and before hitting the dove field.
obedience is key. the best advice anyone gave me was that everything you do with your pup—not just when you're working on retrieves—should be treated like a lesson. Whether you're on a walk (heel!), at home (master goes through the door first!), or letting her loose on the beach (here!). if you're diligent, they quickly learn you're the Big Dog, and become increasingly eager to please you in the field.
I find that there is so much diversity among Labradors that the best thing you can do is bring out the best of what's already inside without doing any damage. With intelligent dawgz from Champion stock, This is as challenging as anything you will encounter in this lifetime. As a triple Professional (including a Master's in Education) I was prepared for this. I know that, if I followed the sage instruction of my two best training manuals, there was ample opportunity and advice to ruin both of my present companions. The marketing of rigid training schedules and goals is beyond bordering on the Irresponsible. You just ain't gonna get it out of one manual. You can turn your dog into a Zombie that does or does not retrieve. Fortunately, Labs are very forgiving when young. Two things that can and will absolutely destroy your dog beyond repair are force training and the e-collar. Both of these confine your dog to a very narrow range of behaviors. Eventually, he will become paralyzed with fear and refuse to do anything. There have been some near-misses with some now-famous dogs, who could have been much more dimensional.Patience and time always prevail. This has been a topic of controversy among people who teach teachers, but it becomes more evident with every passing day. Not everybody has any business doing it. Some "professional trainers" are merely scammers who can appear to do nothing else. There's no doubt. Unless you were trained by an Old Master with a successful track record of training Field Champions, or have considerable College education in Psychology or Education, forget it! many times, people see me training and ask what they can do to overcome the effects of an e-collar or inept trainer, and the answer is the same: Be kind to your dawg, and don't take him to the pound!
Trying to figure out in the picture, who is more spoiled?
Good point clay Cooper
Clay Cooper-- Astute, as always. We're one small, happy family. -D
Hey Dave, just remember one word.... CHEW!!!I forgot to close the door on the shed and that flipping pup found my mucklucks and favorite Alaska winter hunting boots and shredded them! Later on, Mary bought a air of dress shoes for business meetings and Gracie made open toe on one and if I didn't have my fanny pack on, she would have grabbed my 45 and shot that dog!! Just kidding, I never seen her that mad before WOW!
Whoever said it I do agree. Who is more spoiled or rather in love? If that dog is going to hunt get him away from that pretty girl, she will only make him her baby, she's already in love with him. I'm kidding but actually not.
take that pup everywhere you go and never stop training. my lab trained himself on alot of things and was the easiest dog i've ever trained.
I have one of the most naturally talented German Wirehaired pointers and I made huge mistakes when training him by being to harsh and overpowering. It wasn't too much force but I was too rough verbally and he began to be scared when I would raise my voice. Not an easy one to fix and I'm very lucky he's so good at being a bird dog on his own. With his mannerisms, it just takes extraordinary amounts of patience to get him routine with commands. He just has so much energy and wants to go-go-go. So making him understand how to react to all commands the exact same way every time, was very very tough. But I will never again be too harsh and raise my voice. That made my job a hundred times harder.
Obedience says it all.
hey Dave, I'm pretty sure I forgot to say this at sometime but happy birthday, Pritch. My pup was a year back about the 11th, and I know hers and Pritch's was almost identical.
Thanks Dave, that`s good sound advice! Briley will be going to basic obedience classes in two weeks. He`s really doing well and I`m sure he be fine. The classes are as much for me as they are for him!
I also just got a new "Smart Blonde" puppy, (yellow lab) After potty training, the next step is manners, and obedience get this taken care of and the real fun begins
I do agree that obedience is the foundation for all training plus patience since pups don't think like humas do.
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take that pup everywhere you go and never stop training. my lab trained himself on alot of things and was the easiest dog i've ever trained.
I have one of the most naturally talented German Wirehaired pointers and I made huge mistakes when training him by being to harsh and overpowering. It wasn't too much force but I was too rough verbally and he began to be scared when I would raise my voice. Not an easy one to fix and I'm very lucky he's so good at being a bird dog on his own. With his mannerisms, it just takes extraordinary amounts of patience to get him routine with commands. He just has so much energy and wants to go-go-go. So making him understand how to react to all commands the exact same way every time, was very very tough. But I will never again be too harsh and raise my voice. That made my job a hundred times harder.
Trying to figure out in the picture, who is more spoiled?
I do a lot of traveling between home in South Carolina and school in Mississippi, so training my Boykin to relieve himself on command ("10-100" and "stool") has been helpful with pit stops. I don't have to wonder whether he will need to stop again in 20 minutes. The commands were also helpful in housebreaking and before hitting the dove field.
obedience is key. the best advice anyone gave me was that everything you do with your pup—not just when you're working on retrieves—should be treated like a lesson. Whether you're on a walk (heel!), at home (master goes through the door first!), or letting her loose on the beach (here!). if you're diligent, they quickly learn you're the Big Dog, and become increasingly eager to please you in the field.
I find that there is so much diversity among Labradors that the best thing you can do is bring out the best of what's already inside without doing any damage. With intelligent dawgz from Champion stock, This is as challenging as anything you will encounter in this lifetime. As a triple Professional (including a Master's in Education) I was prepared for this. I know that, if I followed the sage instruction of my two best training manuals, there was ample opportunity and advice to ruin both of my present companions. The marketing of rigid training schedules and goals is beyond bordering on the Irresponsible. You just ain't gonna get it out of one manual. You can turn your dog into a Zombie that does or does not retrieve. Fortunately, Labs are very forgiving when young. Two things that can and will absolutely destroy your dog beyond repair are force training and the e-collar. Both of these confine your dog to a very narrow range of behaviors. Eventually, he will become paralyzed with fear and refuse to do anything. There have been some near-misses with some now-famous dogs, who could have been much more dimensional.Patience and time always prevail. This has been a topic of controversy among people who teach teachers, but it becomes more evident with every passing day. Not everybody has any business doing it. Some "professional trainers" are merely scammers who can appear to do nothing else. There's no doubt. Unless you were trained by an Old Master with a successful track record of training Field Champions, or have considerable College education in Psychology or Education, forget it! many times, people see me training and ask what they can do to overcome the effects of an e-collar or inept trainer, and the answer is the same: Be kind to your dawg, and don't take him to the pound!
Good point clay Cooper
Clay Cooper-- Astute, as always. We're one small, happy family. -D
Hey Dave, just remember one word.... CHEW!!!I forgot to close the door on the shed and that flipping pup found my mucklucks and favorite Alaska winter hunting boots and shredded them! Later on, Mary bought a air of dress shoes for business meetings and Gracie made open toe on one and if I didn't have my fanny pack on, she would have grabbed my 45 and shot that dog!! Just kidding, I never seen her that mad before WOW!
Whoever said it I do agree. Who is more spoiled or rather in love? If that dog is going to hunt get him away from that pretty girl, she will only make him her baby, she's already in love with him. I'm kidding but actually not.
Obedience says it all.
hey Dave, I'm pretty sure I forgot to say this at sometime but happy birthday, Pritch. My pup was a year back about the 11th, and I know hers and Pritch's was almost identical.
I do agree that obedience is the foundation for all training plus patience since pups don't think like humas do.
Thanks Dave, that`s good sound advice! Briley will be going to basic obedience classes in two weeks. He`s really doing well and I`m sure he be fine. The classes are as much for me as they are for him!
I also just got a new "Smart Blonde" puppy, (yellow lab) After potty training, the next step is manners, and obedience get this taken care of and the real fun begins
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