I'd rather face a "kook" with an Uzi than a marine with a M1...or a Springfield...or a really pointy stick.

Sayfu so what if the gun dave was firing was fully automatic, if you are able to apply and get the right permits to own this type of weapon so be it. Ted Nugent owns several types of automatic weapons and he is one of the strongest and outspoken supporters of the 2nd amendment. Its kinda like this if you don't like whats on the television channel you are watching you change the channel, if you don't like this type of firearm than don't buy one!

Can you check on the new Remington 1911s?

Sayfu,
I have a nagging recollection that Nevada allows certain licensed shooting ranges under certain conditions to permit restricted fully automatic shooting. Someone else may have more info.

What's the matter for a little fully automatic shooting!

“Since 1934, only one legally owned machine gun has been used in a crime of murder, and a law enforcement officer committed that crime.”
-The History Channel, Modern Marvels, Weapons at War: The Machine Gun

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“The Democrats ran away from gun safety in the 2002 elections, and look where it got them. Whoever is advising them on gun control should be shot.”
-Blaine Rummel, spokesman for the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence (in "Democrats shunning gun control", 2003-May-31, Washington Times)

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“Criminals don't register their guns.”
-Murray Grismer, spokesman of the Saskatchewan Federation of Police Officers, and a 13-year veteran of the police force in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada

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“At first glance, it may seem odd or even perverse to suggest that statutory controls on the private ownership of firearms are irrelevant to the problem of armed crime: yet that is precisely what the evidence shows. Armed crime and violent crime generally are products of ethnic and social factors unrelated to the availability of a particular type of weapon. The number of firearms required to satisfy the crime market is minute, and these are supplied no matter what controls are instituted. Controls have had serious effect on legitimate users of firearms, but there is no case, either in the history of this country (Britain) or in the experience of other countries in which controls can be shown to have restricted the flow of weapons to criminals, or in any way reduce crime.”
-Chief Inspector Colins Greenwood, West Yorkshire Constabulary, Police Review, Britain after six months of study of firearms control systems at Cambridge University

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I wish I had the cash that was burned up on that range for that event!

Lock and load,

keep the barrel hot,

and the target full of holes!

sayfu, that full auto was at the range under a very controlled environment. noone is advocating walking down the street with one. i don't see why this has to be such a big issue.

Probably requires police or military oversight

Good Clip, no pun intended. During the show did you see/shoot a KelTec PMR-30 and what did you think? If not do you think that you will do a review on the website or in the magazine?

Sayfu

After reading your many argumentative posts on Message Boards with Hoski, Bubba, et al, and now your arcane posts above; I have concluded that you are enigmatic, delusional, a $hitstirrer, or all three.

WAM

I read a recent article about Brian Aitken facing a prison term for facing prison time in New Jersey for possessing unloaded firearms in his trunk while moving in New Jersey. Gov. Christie commuted his sentence, but for states that are full of active anti-gun groups I hope they know how to defeat such poorly thought out legislation that doesn't impact violent criminal that don't abide by any law. As for fully auto guns fired at desert gun ranges owned by folks who could be robbed...well in a home invasion I'll take my chances with #4 shot at close range over hip shooting lead sprayers, I had the opportunity to shoot fully auto's at the range just not someone else buying the ammo. That's nuts. If criminals can have them I sure want the right to, and if someone wants to buy the ammo-nice, hell 3 shot blast are more effective I'm told. Arkansas passes Constitutional Right To Hunt 2010. If your Gov't is not moving forward to protect your liberties, then it is moving backwards. Cheers;/

Snafu

I liked you better when you were confined to Backlash & Blowback argueing with Hoski and Rock Rat. Your every post proves my point.

I have no objection to full auto weapons, except the are not very easy to control, and encourage "spray & pray" hoping you can actually get something near the target.

idahoe, ..It is a matter of just not wanting to stir the pot. You got to have a clue about the general public today for starters. I've had two dog catcher dudes knock on my door because some lady in the neighborhood heard me smacking my dog with a newspaper, not wanting him to get killed in the street, and turned me in. Many folks are just plain scared of guns, and they don't need to see me carrying one around in the neighborhood. I had some anti-gun guy stop his vehicle, and try to scare some partridge away last year that I was hunting. And I don't care for fully autos because it hurts the gun owner cause! I'll bet there are a lot of gun owners that don't even know that auto was legal, and would think just like I do. And where is our buddy Phil on the issue? Still hiding out? And WAHunter...don't just sit behind a monitor reading, step up to the plate and state what you know..or has your silence done that?

HogBlog...Then the question to be answered, is...If I am a citizen, could I qualify to own one, and if so, where could I shoot it?

jamesti...But could I walk down the street with one in say Idaho if I had the proper permit? Where am I allowed to shoot that thing? Try to answer some intelligent questions, or concerns please if you can. A guy responding that "I'd rather get in a conflict with a kook with one of those rather than a marine", is hardly one of those responses I was looking for...and Phil's silence kinda answers some things does it not? And I really don't bring up provocative questions, or am interested in getting a discussion going with the notion that WA Mountain man will like me. I could care less.

ruckweiler..Not sure I get all your points. Of course we all know about the laws not applying to criminals. It is a PR thing. You have to convince the public you aren't making autos more available to the bad guys, by making the legal for certain folks. The notion that "anything goes" under the protection of the 2nd Amendment doesn't get it with this gun owner, and I would imagine that is the case for a lot of voters. There needs to be a lot more questions answered on the availability, who can own them, where they can shoot them, and it appears that is above the intellectual ability of the folks on these threads.

99 said it well? lol! Give that to any political analyst on either side of the isle, and see if they agree with 99explorer! You guys that agree with that are why gun ownership advocates will lose the battle. I'm a many, many guns owner, and I am scared to death of those things getting into some kooks hands. Just think of the vast majority of the public that doesn't own guns, and how they would react? When I get out of my car in the neighborhood, and take out my shotgun, I make sure that no one else sees me do it. I know what some woman especially would do if she drove by and saw it. I'd get a knock on my door. You guys and your "sticking together" is like liberals, blindly pursuing their failed ideology. I'm in a conservative, gun ownership state, Idaho, and show that U-tube clip on the nitely news, and the entire community would be up in arms. And if I were associated with that auto weapon? I work for the school district, and that would end immediately I can assure you. And where is Phil hiding on this issue? Come out Phil, it's OK.

Anyone watch that short burst of rapid fire Dave let go with in that UZI lookin gun?..exactly why I don't stand behind every kind of gun ownership. Someone want to tell me that gun wasn't fully automatic?