Great video. Hopefully great tips and videos will attract more fly guys to the site.
Question, I was taught to cast as if I was holding a book under my arm against the body but I see a lot of other guys with their elbow out away from the body as you show in the video. I know if the fly gets there softly and accurately then any technique is correct but what is your opinion on this.
I'm a believer in keeping the arm tight to the body also, but I'd give a little more space... say instead of holding a book under your arm, you should be able to hold the Sunday paper under your arm. As you rightly pointed out, at the beginning of the video, my arm is wide, when I'm showing the incorrect cast... and then the camera zooms tighter... but if you look close, my forearm is moving, but from the elbow up, I'm not. And I think I could have held a Sunday paper in place with that setup.
A good point, and by raising it, you add something I failed to say, in that keeping your thumb in peripheral vision also helps to keep your arm in the right spot, perhaps by default.
I used to cast like that too, but I feel it's very restrictive. By putting some shoulder and body into a cast, you don't expend as much energy. Also, you can get a longer backcast (more distanced travelled by hand), which means you don't have to speed up so quickly. However, new problems arise - you can get rotator cuff issues if you sidearm way past your body. Lefty Krey has a lot of information (as this is his style) on these issues.
90% of my fishing is small fly on a 20-40 foot wide rivers with weight forward floating line. I do a lot of roll casting and short 30-40 foot side arm cast.
I guess I should have said that most of MY fishing does not require anything more than the elbow tucked into the side.
I imagine guys out West fighting the wind all day need to extend their arm. Double hauls and so forth.
yeah...out west, we often have to buck the wind, which means most of us western flycasters could probably pitch at the collegiate level, even in our past-collegiate age...well...maybe not most of us, but some of us could.
I use my whole arm most of the time anyway, even if the wind is not blowing much. I guess it just feels more natural to me, and I do just fine putting the fly where and how I want it...at any rate, I do catch fish...
Great video. Hopefully great tips and videos will attract more fly guys to the site.
Question, I was taught to cast as if I was holding a book under my arm against the body but I see a lot of other guys with their elbow out away from the body as you show in the video. I know if the fly gets there softly and accurately then any technique is correct but what is your opinion on this.
I'm a believer in keeping the arm tight to the body also, but I'd give a little more space... say instead of holding a book under your arm, you should be able to hold the Sunday paper under your arm. As you rightly pointed out, at the beginning of the video, my arm is wide, when I'm showing the incorrect cast... and then the camera zooms tighter... but if you look close, my forearm is moving, but from the elbow up, I'm not. And I think I could have held a Sunday paper in place with that setup.
A good point, and by raising it, you add something I failed to say, in that keeping your thumb in peripheral vision also helps to keep your arm in the right spot, perhaps by default.
I used to cast like that too, but I feel it's very restrictive. By putting some shoulder and body into a cast, you don't expend as much energy. Also, you can get a longer backcast (more distanced travelled by hand), which means you don't have to speed up so quickly. However, new problems arise - you can get rotator cuff issues if you sidearm way past your body. Lefty Krey has a lot of information (as this is his style) on these issues.
90% of my fishing is small fly on a 20-40 foot wide rivers with weight forward floating line. I do a lot of roll casting and short 30-40 foot side arm cast.
I guess I should have said that most of MY fishing does not require anything more than the elbow tucked into the side.
I imagine guys out West fighting the wind all day need to extend their arm. Double hauls and so forth.
yeah...out west, we often have to buck the wind, which means most of us western flycasters could probably pitch at the collegiate level, even in our past-collegiate age...well...maybe not most of us, but some of us could.
I use my whole arm most of the time anyway, even if the wind is not blowing much. I guess it just feels more natural to me, and I do just fine putting the fly where and how I want it...at any rate, I do catch fish...
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I love the video tips! Keep 'em up.
Great video. Hopefully great tips and videos will attract more fly guys to the site.
Question, I was taught to cast as if I was holding a book under my arm against the body but I see a lot of other guys with their elbow out away from the body as you show in the video. I know if the fly gets there softly and accurately then any technique is correct but what is your opinion on this.
Hey buckhunter... good question.
I'm a believer in keeping the arm tight to the body also, but I'd give a little more space... say instead of holding a book under your arm, you should be able to hold the Sunday paper under your arm. As you rightly pointed out, at the beginning of the video, my arm is wide, when I'm showing the incorrect cast... and then the camera zooms tighter... but if you look close, my forearm is moving, but from the elbow up, I'm not. And I think I could have held a Sunday paper in place with that setup.
A good point, and by raising it, you add something I failed to say, in that keeping your thumb in peripheral vision also helps to keep your arm in the right spot, perhaps by default.
Hope this helps.
buckhunter:
I used to cast like that too, but I feel it's very restrictive. By putting some shoulder and body into a cast, you don't expend as much energy. Also, you can get a longer backcast (more distanced travelled by hand), which means you don't have to speed up so quickly. However, new problems arise - you can get rotator cuff issues if you sidearm way past your body. Lefty Krey has a lot of information (as this is his style) on these issues.
Vince,
I should clarify.
90% of my fishing is small fly on a 20-40 foot wide rivers with weight forward floating line. I do a lot of roll casting and short 30-40 foot side arm cast.
I guess I should have said that most of MY fishing does not require anything more than the elbow tucked into the side.
I imagine guys out West fighting the wind all day need to extend their arm. Double hauls and so forth.
Thanks for the helpful tip. Now I just need to get all the equipment for fly fishing...
yeah...out west, we often have to buck the wind, which means most of us western flycasters could probably pitch at the collegiate level, even in our past-collegiate age...well...maybe not most of us, but some of us could.
I use my whole arm most of the time anyway, even if the wind is not blowing much. I guess it just feels more natural to me, and I do just fine putting the fly where and how I want it...at any rate, I do catch fish...
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I love the video tips! Keep 'em up.
Great video. Hopefully great tips and videos will attract more fly guys to the site.
Question, I was taught to cast as if I was holding a book under my arm against the body but I see a lot of other guys with their elbow out away from the body as you show in the video. I know if the fly gets there softly and accurately then any technique is correct but what is your opinion on this.
Hey buckhunter... good question.
I'm a believer in keeping the arm tight to the body also, but I'd give a little more space... say instead of holding a book under your arm, you should be able to hold the Sunday paper under your arm. As you rightly pointed out, at the beginning of the video, my arm is wide, when I'm showing the incorrect cast... and then the camera zooms tighter... but if you look close, my forearm is moving, but from the elbow up, I'm not. And I think I could have held a Sunday paper in place with that setup.
A good point, and by raising it, you add something I failed to say, in that keeping your thumb in peripheral vision also helps to keep your arm in the right spot, perhaps by default.
Hope this helps.
buckhunter:
I used to cast like that too, but I feel it's very restrictive. By putting some shoulder and body into a cast, you don't expend as much energy. Also, you can get a longer backcast (more distanced travelled by hand), which means you don't have to speed up so quickly. However, new problems arise - you can get rotator cuff issues if you sidearm way past your body. Lefty Krey has a lot of information (as this is his style) on these issues.
Vince,
I should clarify.
90% of my fishing is small fly on a 20-40 foot wide rivers with weight forward floating line. I do a lot of roll casting and short 30-40 foot side arm cast.
I guess I should have said that most of MY fishing does not require anything more than the elbow tucked into the side.
I imagine guys out West fighting the wind all day need to extend their arm. Double hauls and so forth.
Thanks for the helpful tip. Now I just need to get all the equipment for fly fishing...
yeah...out west, we often have to buck the wind, which means most of us western flycasters could probably pitch at the collegiate level, even in our past-collegiate age...well...maybe not most of us, but some of us could.
I use my whole arm most of the time anyway, even if the wind is not blowing much. I guess it just feels more natural to me, and I do just fine putting the fly where and how I want it...at any rate, I do catch fish...
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