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March 18, 2010

Deeter: The Upper Delaware River is the Best All-Around Fly Fishing River in the U.S.A.

By Kirk Deeter

Okay... I know I'll raise a few hackles with this one.  I live in Colorado. I moved here for a reason (namely the fabulous trout fishing, and the 300-plus days of sunny, angler-friendly weather we have in the Centennial state on an average annual basis). But I grew up in Pennsylvania, and truth be told, my "home river" is the upper Delaware. It's beautiful place, and as trout fishing goes, I think the Upper D is both the perfect "elementary school" and "grad school" for anyone who wants to be a bona-fide fly angler.

Truth be told (and this is where the "hackles" part comes up) any ol' fly spanker can come to the Bighorn, or the Colorado River, or the Frying Pan, and when it lines up just right (and they're with the right guide), they can catch the trout of a lifetime. But the upper "D" is special, and sacred... you can get hooked here... and you can catch a "life" trout here... but you need an A-game to score big, regardless of the season. The Delaware is arguably where it all comes together best... from making the cast, to matching hatches, to presenting flies perfectly.

Don't agree? You tell me a better all-around fly river, and why. Or why not. I'll send a Scientific Anglers GPX fly line of the winner's choice to the best stated argument. 

And another prize: I was more than happy to learn from my guide friend Joe Demalderis (www.crosscurrentguideservice.com) about the 3rd Annual ONE BUG fundraiser tournament to benefit preservation efforts on the Upper D.  Any of you who follow FlyTalk know I'm not a big advocate of competitive fly fishing except in situations where a worthy cause is involved. This is the worthiest of causes. See this link (http://fudr.org/?p=87) for more information. 

If anyone here pays the fee to sign up a team (and establishes that they are entered on the Fly Talk comment thread below before the tournament starts), actually fishes the event, and then wins it, I'll throw in two more lines for good measure.

Good luck,

Deeter

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from -Bob wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

What, no takers yet?

Alright, here goes -- I absolutely agree, but probably for all of the wrong reasons...y'see, I'm primarily a spinning rod knuckle-dragger with a strong preference for soft plactics over Clouser patterns (sorry Deeter, we all have our flaws). Despite all of that, here's why the Upper Delaware is top-shelf:

-- The scenery is spectacular, particularly in the fall. I saw my first bald eagle there. During the summer you'll come across the occasional shad skeleton along the shore, 150 miles away from the nearest salt water. It's like a scene from a Discovery Channel special.

-- The people are friendly, and the fishery is first-rate. Never actually caught a trout, but I've seen plenty. Smallmouth action? Wow.

-- The "surprise" factor. I once waded up to a spot that looked a little too deep to navigate safely. I later found out it was The Narrowsburg Hole, which is just a touch over my head at 113 feet. Another time, I had a inflatable boat full of Israeli tourists paddle up to ask for directions to the nearest town…in Yiddish, of course. You never know what's around the next bend.

Can't wait to get back! -Bob

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from Koldkut wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

Some folks spend a lifetime fishing that river for the one. I have never seen it, but intend on fishing it some day when I am visiting back there. I can't argue for or against it, but Dad loves taking trips up there even if it's for a skunk.

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from Alex Pernice th... wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

I say the Au Sable is the best fly river. It is full of Big browns, and beautiful Brooks. It has many amazing fly shops on it, and countless fisherman rave about them and there owners. The Hex hatches are Amazing, Trico's, BWO's some of the best hatches. It is managed by countless organizations including TU, and it has many historic areas around it. It is a one of a kind fishery, and I hope some day I will be able to show my children the Au Sable myself.

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from MLH wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

You won't get any subjective argument from me. Lots of tradition going back to the start of flyfishing in America on the Upper Delaware. Flyfishers owe much to tradition and many of the people who still fish on those waters. If you can catch trout in the east you can catch trout anywhere. Even though my home waters are in Michigan I give thanks for the Upper Delaware.

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from Bookie12 wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

Deeter...you betrayed us!!! Although I haven't explored any rivers outside of Colorado, I would have to say that there are two specifics that I have in mind. The first is the South Platte. You have multple different sections...from the beautiful, finicky trout of Cheesemen, to the open spaces and big bruisers of the Dream "Charlie's" Stream. Either of which you have a chance at the fish of a lifetime. I also say the south platte bc of it's resiliance in regard to insect life. The Hayman Fires did a number on Cheesemen, however, the river continues improve, supporting amazing hatches all year long. Brings me to my next point...can you fish the D all year long? All sections of the SP are open for angling all winter. This is a great place to get away and seriously test your skills. Like the D, you better bring your A-game to the SP. My second vote is for the Eagle river. It is so overlooked and as far as I've seen underfished. Eagle river trout are strong, healthy, WILD fish. You defintiely have an opp for a trophy trout. It is also an extremely beautiful setting. Although a good portion of the river is private..it is also just large enough to float when flows are right. The Eagle is a total underappreciated Gem.

It truely is hard to say what is the best all around FFing river in the US...for me its wherever I am at that moment. Be it a beaver dam littered brookie stream, the Colorado, Pan, SP, or Eagle. The best Fly Fishing River in the US is where I am fishing right NOW!!

yours,

Fellow Addicted Fly Angler

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from babsfish4life wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

In my mind the best fly-fishing river in the nation would be a river that 99.99% of fly-fishers don't know about. But I would suggest the South Fork of the Snake River is the best "well-known" fly-fishing water. Purely because you can catch beautiful cutthroats, large browns and a few pesky nuisance rainbows (you are supposed to keep all of them). Such a long river you can always find secluded areas that are just skimmed over by floaters. Wildlife galore, steep canyons, deep holes, sandbars, eddies everything.

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from hengst wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

I hate to disagree with you, I was just starting to like you...lol..
The ultimate river to flyfish is not about how perfect an angler must be or having to be on an A-game at all times. The best river for flyfishing is the Arkansas. You get the whole flyfishing experience here. Granted the fish are larger in other areas but is that all flyfishing is about? On the Arkansas you have great hatches virtually year long. The Arkansas brown Trout are strong fighters that run like a Prius or a Camry down a California highway.I can take a beginner on the Arkansas and they will hook a strong fighting, beautifully colored brown trout, other rivers this is not a guarantee. The ultimate river is everymans river. Besides the caddis hatch is out of this world. There have been many times when I fish the Arkansas that I look up and see Bighorn Sheep grazing, a bald eagle flying and snowcapped mountains in the background. The ultimate river provides more than big fish, it needs the whole package and the Arkansas provides just that.

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from buckhunter wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

I'm sure the Upper D is a beautiful river with great fishing. I'm sure people drive and fly from miles around to enjoy its scenic beauty and great fishing. I'm sure it's listed in many books and rags as a top stream and is the destination spot of many a fine angler.

I will not argue that the Upper D is the best fly stream in America. In fact, I will sing its praises and hope everyone has a chance to fish it but you will not find me there.

My streams are nameless trickles that fall from lonesome mountain ranges whose names are known only to the locals. You can fish for days without speaking a word and animals will walk around you as if you were one of them. The only sign of human encroachment is a rotted shell of a log cabin built on a river stone foundation a lifetime ago. Brightly colored 8 inch fish rule the holes barely the size of a truck bed. My trophy is presenting a #14 adams 30 feet upstream so softly the fish barely notice it touch the water. Dry flies are not suggested but a necessity and tree limbs own every poor cast. Access requires an over night journey and provisions come from your backpack only. If it rains you get wet. If it gets cold you get cold. You have no choice and you like it.

That's my favorite stream. It's not what America likes but it's mine. I'm thankful for places like the Upper D that absorb the crowds enough to protect my place.

So yes, the Upper D is Americas best all around fly river. Everybody should fish it. This weekend.

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from Bookie12 wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

well put Buckhunter!

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from jamesti wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

once again, alaska has bee forgotten. if you want a river that will steal your heart and never give it back, you have to try the Copper river at least once. wild life is abundant indozens of different forms and either the beginner or the veteran angler can fish it with success. the trout are broad shouldered and will test you everytime. this is one of the only rivers you can fish and have big brown bears walking the bank behind you and the biggest eagles you've ever seen soaring low above you. it's not combat fishing and if you want top make it a competition, try to catch more fish than the bears. if you fish this river once, you WILL fish it again and again! it's the best addiction you will ever fall victum to!

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from -TK- wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

Like Alex Pernice, I would also say that the Au Sable is perhaps the best fly fishing river in the U.S. No matter what kind of fishing you want to do, you can do it on the Au Sable. If you go far down you can fish for bass, if you want just a simple day with little fish, there is the north branch. Then there is the holy waters, one of the most famed stretch of river in the U.S. Also, not too many other fisherman. Plenty of spots for teaching younger kids, a lot of big trout, and situated in Grayling, one of the best outdoor cities in North America, I would choose it over any other.

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from dan plummer wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

I would like to thank Deeter and Joe Demalderis for recognizing the Upper Delaware as possibly being one of, if not the best trout water in the U.S. these guys are super wise river rats! I live on the East Branch of the Delaware River and have for twenty years, I also chair the board of Friends of the Upper Delaware River(fudr) so I may be just a wee bit biased, oh well.

For those that don't know, the section of the Delaware River system Deeter is praising is a tailwater fishery born of cold water releases flowing from the bottom of two NY City owned reservoirs, without the reservoirs things would be a whole lot different and we may not be having this discussion. Wether you think the Upper Delaware is one of the best trout rivers or not, there would be a lot less wiggle room on this topic if these rivers were getting more water, especially from April through the end of September, something fudr has been working on for nearly a decade. Recently we have finally been heard by government officials that can and want to do something about it. NYSDEC and PAFBC teamed up and with a great combined effort released a joint "White Paper". This is a water release management plan the two states believe is much better than and should replace the inferior Flexible Flow Management Plan(ffmp) currently in place.Though FUDR does not feel the NYSDEC/PAFBC plan is ideal it is a true step in the right direction and would be a great "bridge plan" until something truly sustainable could be put in place.

So, is the Upper D number one? We have only seen glimpses through the years of what is possible when this system gets the water it needs from mother nature, if we get the cold consistent bottom releases we are asking for the rivers will show the world why this is the king of all rivers. Stay tuned and if you have any questions or would like to help please visit us at www.fudr.org and drop us a line!

Thanks, hope to see you at our One Bug!

Dan Plummer

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from lalithkum wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

the best all around FFing river in the US...for me its wherever I am at that moment. Be it a beaver dam littered brookie stream, the Colorado, Pan, SP, or Eagle.

with regards
http://socialsubmit.info

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from alasiri6 wrote 1 year 23 weeks ago

Deeter...you betrayed us!!! Although I haven't explored any rivers outside of Colorado, I would have to say that there are two specifics that I have in mind. The first is the South Platte. You have multple different sections...from the beautiful, finicky trout of Cheesemen, to the open spaces and big bruisers of the Dream "Charlie's" Stream. Either of which you have a chance at the fish of a lifetime. منتديات رمزيات I also say the south platte bc of it's resiliance in regard to insect life. The Hayman Fires did a number on Cheesemen, however, the river continues improve, supporting amazing hatches all year long. هيدرات للماسنجر صور Brings me to my next point...can you fish the D all year long? All sections of the SP are open for angling all winter. This is a great place to get away and seriously test your skills. تسريحات شعر
ميك اب - مكياج Like the D, you better bring your A-game to the SP. My second vote is for the Eagle river. It is so overlooked and as far as I've seen underfished. Eagle river trout are strong, healthy, WILD fish. You defintiely have an opp for a trophy trout. It is also an extremely beautiful setting. Although a good portion of the river is private..it is also just large enough to float when flows are right. The Eagle is a total underappreciated Gem.

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from buckhunter wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

I'm sure the Upper D is a beautiful river with great fishing. I'm sure people drive and fly from miles around to enjoy its scenic beauty and great fishing. I'm sure it's listed in many books and rags as a top stream and is the destination spot of many a fine angler.

I will not argue that the Upper D is the best fly stream in America. In fact, I will sing its praises and hope everyone has a chance to fish it but you will not find me there.

My streams are nameless trickles that fall from lonesome mountain ranges whose names are known only to the locals. You can fish for days without speaking a word and animals will walk around you as if you were one of them. The only sign of human encroachment is a rotted shell of a log cabin built on a river stone foundation a lifetime ago. Brightly colored 8 inch fish rule the holes barely the size of a truck bed. My trophy is presenting a #14 adams 30 feet upstream so softly the fish barely notice it touch the water. Dry flies are not suggested but a necessity and tree limbs own every poor cast. Access requires an over night journey and provisions come from your backpack only. If it rains you get wet. If it gets cold you get cold. You have no choice and you like it.

That's my favorite stream. It's not what America likes but it's mine. I'm thankful for places like the Upper D that absorb the crowds enough to protect my place.

So yes, the Upper D is Americas best all around fly river. Everybody should fish it. This weekend.

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from babsfish4life wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

In my mind the best fly-fishing river in the nation would be a river that 99.99% of fly-fishers don't know about. But I would suggest the South Fork of the Snake River is the best "well-known" fly-fishing water. Purely because you can catch beautiful cutthroats, large browns and a few pesky nuisance rainbows (you are supposed to keep all of them). Such a long river you can always find secluded areas that are just skimmed over by floaters. Wildlife galore, steep canyons, deep holes, sandbars, eddies everything.

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from Bookie12 wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

well put Buckhunter!

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from jamesti wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

once again, alaska has bee forgotten. if you want a river that will steal your heart and never give it back, you have to try the Copper river at least once. wild life is abundant indozens of different forms and either the beginner or the veteran angler can fish it with success. the trout are broad shouldered and will test you everytime. this is one of the only rivers you can fish and have big brown bears walking the bank behind you and the biggest eagles you've ever seen soaring low above you. it's not combat fishing and if you want top make it a competition, try to catch more fish than the bears. if you fish this river once, you WILL fish it again and again! it's the best addiction you will ever fall victum to!

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from dan plummer wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

I would like to thank Deeter and Joe Demalderis for recognizing the Upper Delaware as possibly being one of, if not the best trout water in the U.S. these guys are super wise river rats! I live on the East Branch of the Delaware River and have for twenty years, I also chair the board of Friends of the Upper Delaware River(fudr) so I may be just a wee bit biased, oh well.

For those that don't know, the section of the Delaware River system Deeter is praising is a tailwater fishery born of cold water releases flowing from the bottom of two NY City owned reservoirs, without the reservoirs things would be a whole lot different and we may not be having this discussion. Wether you think the Upper Delaware is one of the best trout rivers or not, there would be a lot less wiggle room on this topic if these rivers were getting more water, especially from April through the end of September, something fudr has been working on for nearly a decade. Recently we have finally been heard by government officials that can and want to do something about it. NYSDEC and PAFBC teamed up and with a great combined effort released a joint "White Paper". This is a water release management plan the two states believe is much better than and should replace the inferior Flexible Flow Management Plan(ffmp) currently in place.Though FUDR does not feel the NYSDEC/PAFBC plan is ideal it is a true step in the right direction and would be a great "bridge plan" until something truly sustainable could be put in place.

So, is the Upper D number one? We have only seen glimpses through the years of what is possible when this system gets the water it needs from mother nature, if we get the cold consistent bottom releases we are asking for the rivers will show the world why this is the king of all rivers. Stay tuned and if you have any questions or would like to help please visit us at www.fudr.org and drop us a line!

Thanks, hope to see you at our One Bug!

Dan Plummer

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from -Bob wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

What, no takers yet?

Alright, here goes -- I absolutely agree, but probably for all of the wrong reasons...y'see, I'm primarily a spinning rod knuckle-dragger with a strong preference for soft plactics over Clouser patterns (sorry Deeter, we all have our flaws). Despite all of that, here's why the Upper Delaware is top-shelf:

-- The scenery is spectacular, particularly in the fall. I saw my first bald eagle there. During the summer you'll come across the occasional shad skeleton along the shore, 150 miles away from the nearest salt water. It's like a scene from a Discovery Channel special.

-- The people are friendly, and the fishery is first-rate. Never actually caught a trout, but I've seen plenty. Smallmouth action? Wow.

-- The "surprise" factor. I once waded up to a spot that looked a little too deep to navigate safely. I later found out it was The Narrowsburg Hole, which is just a touch over my head at 113 feet. Another time, I had a inflatable boat full of Israeli tourists paddle up to ask for directions to the nearest town…in Yiddish, of course. You never know what's around the next bend.

Can't wait to get back! -Bob

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from Koldkut wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

Some folks spend a lifetime fishing that river for the one. I have never seen it, but intend on fishing it some day when I am visiting back there. I can't argue for or against it, but Dad loves taking trips up there even if it's for a skunk.

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from Alex Pernice th... wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

I say the Au Sable is the best fly river. It is full of Big browns, and beautiful Brooks. It has many amazing fly shops on it, and countless fisherman rave about them and there owners. The Hex hatches are Amazing, Trico's, BWO's some of the best hatches. It is managed by countless organizations including TU, and it has many historic areas around it. It is a one of a kind fishery, and I hope some day I will be able to show my children the Au Sable myself.

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from MLH wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

You won't get any subjective argument from me. Lots of tradition going back to the start of flyfishing in America on the Upper Delaware. Flyfishers owe much to tradition and many of the people who still fish on those waters. If you can catch trout in the east you can catch trout anywhere. Even though my home waters are in Michigan I give thanks for the Upper Delaware.

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from Bookie12 wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

Deeter...you betrayed us!!! Although I haven't explored any rivers outside of Colorado, I would have to say that there are two specifics that I have in mind. The first is the South Platte. You have multple different sections...from the beautiful, finicky trout of Cheesemen, to the open spaces and big bruisers of the Dream "Charlie's" Stream. Either of which you have a chance at the fish of a lifetime. I also say the south platte bc of it's resiliance in regard to insect life. The Hayman Fires did a number on Cheesemen, however, the river continues improve, supporting amazing hatches all year long. Brings me to my next point...can you fish the D all year long? All sections of the SP are open for angling all winter. This is a great place to get away and seriously test your skills. Like the D, you better bring your A-game to the SP. My second vote is for the Eagle river. It is so overlooked and as far as I've seen underfished. Eagle river trout are strong, healthy, WILD fish. You defintiely have an opp for a trophy trout. It is also an extremely beautiful setting. Although a good portion of the river is private..it is also just large enough to float when flows are right. The Eagle is a total underappreciated Gem.

It truely is hard to say what is the best all around FFing river in the US...for me its wherever I am at that moment. Be it a beaver dam littered brookie stream, the Colorado, Pan, SP, or Eagle. The best Fly Fishing River in the US is where I am fishing right NOW!!

yours,

Fellow Addicted Fly Angler

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from hengst wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

I hate to disagree with you, I was just starting to like you...lol..
The ultimate river to flyfish is not about how perfect an angler must be or having to be on an A-game at all times. The best river for flyfishing is the Arkansas. You get the whole flyfishing experience here. Granted the fish are larger in other areas but is that all flyfishing is about? On the Arkansas you have great hatches virtually year long. The Arkansas brown Trout are strong fighters that run like a Prius or a Camry down a California highway.I can take a beginner on the Arkansas and they will hook a strong fighting, beautifully colored brown trout, other rivers this is not a guarantee. The ultimate river is everymans river. Besides the caddis hatch is out of this world. There have been many times when I fish the Arkansas that I look up and see Bighorn Sheep grazing, a bald eagle flying and snowcapped mountains in the background. The ultimate river provides more than big fish, it needs the whole package and the Arkansas provides just that.

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from -TK- wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

Like Alex Pernice, I would also say that the Au Sable is perhaps the best fly fishing river in the U.S. No matter what kind of fishing you want to do, you can do it on the Au Sable. If you go far down you can fish for bass, if you want just a simple day with little fish, there is the north branch. Then there is the holy waters, one of the most famed stretch of river in the U.S. Also, not too many other fisherman. Plenty of spots for teaching younger kids, a lot of big trout, and situated in Grayling, one of the best outdoor cities in North America, I would choose it over any other.

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from lalithkum wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

the best all around FFing river in the US...for me its wherever I am at that moment. Be it a beaver dam littered brookie stream, the Colorado, Pan, SP, or Eagle.

with regards
http://socialsubmit.info

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from alasiri6 wrote 1 year 23 weeks ago

Deeter...you betrayed us!!! Although I haven't explored any rivers outside of Colorado, I would have to say that there are two specifics that I have in mind. The first is the South Platte. You have multple different sections...from the beautiful, finicky trout of Cheesemen, to the open spaces and big bruisers of the Dream "Charlie's" Stream. Either of which you have a chance at the fish of a lifetime. منتديات رمزيات I also say the south platte bc of it's resiliance in regard to insect life. The Hayman Fires did a number on Cheesemen, however, the river continues improve, supporting amazing hatches all year long. هيدرات للماسنجر صور Brings me to my next point...can you fish the D all year long? All sections of the SP are open for angling all winter. This is a great place to get away and seriously test your skills. تسريحات شعر
ميك اب - مكياج Like the D, you better bring your A-game to the SP. My second vote is for the Eagle river. It is so overlooked and as far as I've seen underfished. Eagle river trout are strong, healthy, WILD fish. You defintiely have an opp for a trophy trout. It is also an extremely beautiful setting. Although a good portion of the river is private..it is also just large enough to float when flows are right. The Eagle is a total underappreciated Gem.

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