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June 05, 2009

Politics and Deer Management

By Scott Bestul

Bashing politicians is generally not my style, but today I just couldn’t resist. Late last week, Minnesota deer hunters learned that our first firearms deer season (we have three; two November general firearms hunts, followed by a December blackpowder season) would be lengthened by two days.

Sounds harmless enough, right? But the devil is in the details…of which there are quite a few. The season-stretching only occurs in one of the state’s zones. Better yet, these last two days will be under the following rules; earn-a-buck, antler point restrictions (all bucks must have four points per side) and no cross-tagging. None of these rules will apply for the first seven days of the season, but on that last weekend…well, better behave yourselves, boys! I feel for the conservation officers stuck with trying to enforce these inane, confusing rules.

If the system seem illogical, consider the source; the Minnesota State Legislature. The season extension was opposed by the DNR and two of the state’s key deer hunting groups. But state representatives caved to pressure from a vocal minority of hunters who clamored for a season extension. A few key representatives decided to make this their pet project, and presto…the season is changed! On an even sadder note, the DNR is in the process of gathering hunter’s input about the deer season, setting up a series of informational meetings to discuss management changes, and possibly re-tooling the deer season based on a true, broad-based public input process!  This legislation throws a huge wrench in that process.

Make no mistake, these are probably not earth-shattering changes that will have huge ramifications for the Minnesota deer herd. But they do set a dangerous precedent; if the length, timing and regulations of the deer season can be set by lawmakers—many of whom know nothing about wildlife management—what will they meddle with next? Walleye bag limits? Catch-and-release rules for trout? Minimum caliber requirements for moose hunting?

It’s no secret that I do not always agree with the decisions made by state game management agencies. But I still respect them for their knowledge, expertise and dedication to the resource. The politicians who made this decision—and who may make others in the future—do not share those qualities. They are mucking around in unfamiliar ground, hoping some votes will stick to their boots in the process.

Have any of you shared a similar experience? How far can legislators reach into the rule books governing hunting and fishing in your state?

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from jjas wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

Many politicians are in bed with the insurance companies and they just want the deer numbers down.

And they don't care how it's accomplished and if it has a negative effect on the deer herd, buck/doe ratio, etc.

Jim

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from Jim in Mo wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

Fortunately our game dept is a separate entity, politicians can't touch them. My concern for Minnesota and other states like them is with lobbyist for deep pocket anti's. Spread enough money around and hunters get screwed.

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from ingebrigtsen wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

Well im about to propose something radical.. lets reduce all laws down to size so that any lawofficer must be able to memorize them and understand them.. ALL of them. make it a job requirement:D
So that the normal people will have any chance to actually understand whats in accordance to law and what ainth:P
(well maybe except the laws considering corporate tax evation..)

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from Clay Cooper wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

These kinds of rules do more harm than good. I found when antler restrictions are imposed and special restrictions on certain days, bucks are shot accidently and left in the field. Either have one way or the other period!

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from Clay Cooper wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

Minnesota?

GO FIGURE!

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from FloridaHunter1226 wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

Florida is lucky enough to have its' own systems that is seperate from the politicians (the FWC)... or atleast I would like to think. But I feel for you. To me, politicians should stay out of something they have no idea about... leave it up to someone who actually knows what the hell they are talking about.

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from peter wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

man why do they always mess around with a good thing. my dad told me how there was alot more deer in the woulds before they changed the ruls and tons of does were killed.

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from Ziggy4334 wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

Deer management shouldn't come from legislators. Numebrs can be given to them, but unless there is solid, factual and knowledgeable input from DNR officials there cannot be proper management. Even DNR offocials sometiems would rather be on a golf course thanewading through a trout stream, which makes thign even more difficult. How is this for a fact: Almost 20 thousand more deer have been harvested in one year in West Virginia than the previosu year. Is that not disgusting? This is an example of proper legislation backfiring, in some sense.

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from Snowman wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

Texas has Nov 1 - Jan 18 (South Texas) season, plus an anterless mid-Jan through Feb, and we manage our deer population very well, thank you very much. Get your tree-huggers off of the DNR board and get some hunters on there.

The WI-MI-MN hunting seasons are the dumbest I've ever seen - and I own hunting property in WI and MI.

Snowman

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from jamesti wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

it's getting just as bad here in co. most of the wildlife officers can't even interpret some of the rules. how's this for crappy? i didn't get drawn for my antelope tag this year and because fewer deer tags are going to be given out for the area i put in for i may not get drawn for that either. i may be really screwed for the whole season. i can't imagine not being able to hunt at all! i wish they had told us about the deer tags before we put in for them!

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from Beekeeper wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

A politician never met a problem he/she couldn't fix with enough words... Maybe Mr. Franken can use his influence to straighten that out for ya'll!

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from steve182 wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

In NJ game management, or lack thereof, is very political. Just look at the bear problem in N.W. Jersey. After the last bear hunt a few years ago, the number of nuiscance bears, and bear/human conflicts dropped 50%. Same with the previous hunt. Since then our idiot Governor would rather spend Million$ of taxdollars on non-lethal bear manegement(birth control, education etc.). NJ is one of the most bankrupt states in the nation, with the highest taxes. Hunters would pay to control the bears based on science. Our legislators aren't listening and don't get it.

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from libertyfirst wrote 2 years 34 weeks ago

When ever politicians get their chance, they will mess up wildlife so badly that the rules can hardly be explained even by those whose job it is to interpret them . Most of the monies that come from hunting and fishing in my state winds up in the general fund and no longer are earmarked for wildlife and it's management. This is simple insanity. Our wildlife needs to be managed by professionals in the field with input from individual states sportsman organizations, people with vested interests to do what is right both for outdoors men and the animals that we pursue.

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from ingebrigtsen wrote 2 years 33 weeks ago

Well in africa olliphants almost became extinct untill they started charging outside hunters for killing them and having the money from it be earmarked for theire preservation.. now those same funds not only protect olliphants but rhinos etc. and the populations of those are rising!! Why cant it work in the us too?? Hunters rights associations should fight to "make it so!" (Proverb pickard):P

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from jjas wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

Many politicians are in bed with the insurance companies and they just want the deer numbers down.

And they don't care how it's accomplished and if it has a negative effect on the deer herd, buck/doe ratio, etc.

Jim

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from ingebrigtsen wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

Well im about to propose something radical.. lets reduce all laws down to size so that any lawofficer must be able to memorize them and understand them.. ALL of them. make it a job requirement:D
So that the normal people will have any chance to actually understand whats in accordance to law and what ainth:P
(well maybe except the laws considering corporate tax evation..)

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from ingebrigtsen wrote 2 years 33 weeks ago

Well in africa olliphants almost became extinct untill they started charging outside hunters for killing them and having the money from it be earmarked for theire preservation.. now those same funds not only protect olliphants but rhinos etc. and the populations of those are rising!! Why cant it work in the us too?? Hunters rights associations should fight to "make it so!" (Proverb pickard):P

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from Jim in Mo wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

Fortunately our game dept is a separate entity, politicians can't touch them. My concern for Minnesota and other states like them is with lobbyist for deep pocket anti's. Spread enough money around and hunters get screwed.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Clay Cooper wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

These kinds of rules do more harm than good. I found when antler restrictions are imposed and special restrictions on certain days, bucks are shot accidently and left in the field. Either have one way or the other period!

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Clay Cooper wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

Minnesota?

GO FIGURE!

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from FloridaHunter1226 wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

Florida is lucky enough to have its' own systems that is seperate from the politicians (the FWC)... or atleast I would like to think. But I feel for you. To me, politicians should stay out of something they have no idea about... leave it up to someone who actually knows what the hell they are talking about.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from peter wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

man why do they always mess around with a good thing. my dad told me how there was alot more deer in the woulds before they changed the ruls and tons of does were killed.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Ziggy4334 wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

Deer management shouldn't come from legislators. Numebrs can be given to them, but unless there is solid, factual and knowledgeable input from DNR officials there cannot be proper management. Even DNR offocials sometiems would rather be on a golf course thanewading through a trout stream, which makes thign even more difficult. How is this for a fact: Almost 20 thousand more deer have been harvested in one year in West Virginia than the previosu year. Is that not disgusting? This is an example of proper legislation backfiring, in some sense.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Snowman wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

Texas has Nov 1 - Jan 18 (South Texas) season, plus an anterless mid-Jan through Feb, and we manage our deer population very well, thank you very much. Get your tree-huggers off of the DNR board and get some hunters on there.

The WI-MI-MN hunting seasons are the dumbest I've ever seen - and I own hunting property in WI and MI.

Snowman

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from jamesti wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

it's getting just as bad here in co. most of the wildlife officers can't even interpret some of the rules. how's this for crappy? i didn't get drawn for my antelope tag this year and because fewer deer tags are going to be given out for the area i put in for i may not get drawn for that either. i may be really screwed for the whole season. i can't imagine not being able to hunt at all! i wish they had told us about the deer tags before we put in for them!

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Beekeeper wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

A politician never met a problem he/she couldn't fix with enough words... Maybe Mr. Franken can use his influence to straighten that out for ya'll!

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from steve182 wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

In NJ game management, or lack thereof, is very political. Just look at the bear problem in N.W. Jersey. After the last bear hunt a few years ago, the number of nuiscance bears, and bear/human conflicts dropped 50%. Same with the previous hunt. Since then our idiot Governor would rather spend Million$ of taxdollars on non-lethal bear manegement(birth control, education etc.). NJ is one of the most bankrupt states in the nation, with the highest taxes. Hunters would pay to control the bears based on science. Our legislators aren't listening and don't get it.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from libertyfirst wrote 2 years 34 weeks ago

When ever politicians get their chance, they will mess up wildlife so badly that the rules can hardly be explained even by those whose job it is to interpret them . Most of the monies that come from hunting and fishing in my state winds up in the general fund and no longer are earmarked for wildlife and it's management. This is simple insanity. Our wildlife needs to be managed by professionals in the field with input from individual states sportsman organizations, people with vested interests to do what is right both for outdoors men and the animals that we pursue.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report

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