


November 21, 2012
Bowhunters: Don’t Aim Too Close to That Front Shoulder
By Scott Bestul

I hear a lot of deer hunting stories from fellow bowhunters. Inevitably, a small but notable percentage of them start like this: “I thought I hit him perfectly, right behind the shoulder….” Yet it turns out that the hunter couldn’t have hit the deer perfectly because he either failed to recover the animal or only found it after an arduous tracking job.
I think bowhunters need to redefine the “perfect” shot, which has likely been influenced by the 3-D targets we use for practice. Most full-body deer targets sport a neat little 10-ring immediately behind the “animal’s” front elbow, over an area that would result in a heart-shot deer. Naturally, putting an arrow in a real buck here will kill him within seconds and probably within sight.
But there is something critically wrong with this shot: Namely, it leaves too little room for error. And while wearing extra clothes, and eyes tearing from the cold, and knees wobbling under the influence of buck fever, error is all too common in the field. If you do not make this shot perfectly, the likelihood of disaster becomes roughly a coin toss. That is, if you miss too far back, you’ll probably be okay. But if your forward, your broadhead will find the shoulder, the brisket, or leg—none of which is at all good.
The solution is simple. Forget the 10-ring on a 3-D target. Erase that perfect shot from your head and replace it with one three or four inches farther back—that is, roughly on the center of the lungs, which are about the size of a basketball. If your arrow flies perfectly, your deer is dead. If the shot is a little off, there’s a lot of lung surrounding your new 10-ring. Get anywhere close to it with a sharp broadhead and you will find your deer.
Comments (18)
Excellent advice!
You are right the front shoulder can be a problem for archers. My last two archery deer were hit a couple inches back of the front shoulder catching lung and liver. Neither went far. Before that i'd hit a couple right in that crease behind the shoulder, they went down w/in 50 yds. I hear from a lot of guys that they lost deer hit square in the shoulder. The key is wait for the shot to present where the shoulder is not in the way.
Good article, I find it's a good shot in a way due to string jumpers. Aim for the heart and if they string jump then your bound to hit the lungs.
This is the reason I stay clear of mechanical and fallen back to my reliable 3 blade 100 grain Muzzy's. at 60 yards, they hit the same point of impact as a field tip.
28" Gold Tip 5574 @ 310 fps, no problem except for the mechanicals
Good advice, Scott.
I shoot 3-D in the summer and always shoot for the kill zone and not the 10-ring. My scores are lower but it makes me a better hunter, which is why I am there in the first place.
It is also important to consider the angle of the body when shooting. A true broadside shot is rarer than most people think.
Good thoughts.
#1 thing I can say when it comes to hunting is, Know your animal's anatomy. This is a good post in that many people thing because they shoot a 3D target, they are good to go and this could be when they have never taken a shot at a real deer. Know the anatomy, learn where to place a real world shot and then you are good to go.
This is real good advice for any bowhunter and especialy hunters bowhunters with a lower draw weight, or traditional archery. I'll follow this advice on my next hunting trip with my handgun as well. I shot a button buck in the shoulder with my .357 and soft nose bullets at about 30yds and dropped it in its tracks but it bled very little. I shot a doe the same day with the same gun through the brisket and it didn't leave much of anything to follow even at the point it dropped. Good high percentage shots are the only way to go.
Great advice I can attest to, put an arrow in the ten ring on a big 9 point. Got both lungs and stuck in the inside of his shoulder blade. Ended up breaking the arrow in two places and breaking the threads off the broad head. He only went 25 yards but I lost an arrow, a head and some meat. Can't complain but an inch or two left and I would have lost the deer too.
Correction,
28" Gold Tip "5575"
I'm new at Bow hunting this is my second year and I use a Recurb bow here in Illinois.. I'm thinking of getting a Cross Bow because I want the meat and if I get a nice trophy then thats cool. Using what(FPS)is a comfortable speed and at what yard dash is ok? can someone please tell me...
Great advice as I have just had this exact incident happen to me on Saturday. Thought my shot was perfect, but never found the deer. I must have hit the shoulder because I did not get a pass through at 20 yards. Trailed for about 75-100 yards and lost blood all of a sudden. Walked the whole area for the deer to no avail. I hate nothing more than shooting a deer and not recovering it.
I always thought right behind the shoulder was the spot. Then after studying deer anatomy pics it looked like directly above the front leg was the ticket. Now, the general concensus is 3-4 in back of the "shoulder nook"? Man, I'm starting to get confused.
@Valdimir16 - trust your instincts with your shot after studying the anatomy. Know the bone structure. If your shot is placed correctly, you are right. The lungs give you a big area to cover that is why most say the "shoulder" crease.
@Minista - shooting Recurve - you won't be able to hunt with a crossbow unless you are over 65 or disabled with a proper permit. IL is doing something new this year after the 2nd firearm season with cross bow, but I haven't followed up on a it too much to know exactly what will be legal and if that will be for everyone.
More comes into play with distance too. I shot both my deer at 35 yards this year. I have a very fast bow but both deer moved quite a bit before my arrow found them. The doe hunched and turned back toward me hard. My entry point looked as if i had shot her from a tree straight down, when in fact i was on the ground. Hit her just below the spine and only caught lung mid way down on the pass through. 400 yard blood trail but i got her. My buck was quartering away and spun right, i was aiming for the back ribs left side but hit just in front of back leg, got liver and 1 lung. He didn't go 50 yards. I was also on the ground. All that at 340 fps with my Strother Infinity. Both deer were on high alert prior to the shot.
Good post. I have made the error of hitting one in dead smack in the shoulder when I was younger. I did not recover the deer and I felt so bad about it that I almost gave up bow hunting that day. I learned the hard way and I am glad that I tend to give myself a little bit of room when I take shots now. Thanks for the advice.
crossbows these days blow right threw both shoulders at close ranges
I have one of the 3-d targets but even at 20 yards I can't see the rings so I have to pick my spot. I've studied deer anatomy and to start off with when the target was new, I would put a small sticker spot(like the cover spots that come with the shoot-n-see targets)on it where I wanted to aim. Now I don't need that spot because I've trained my eye to find that spot but I still evaluate every shot for quick killing potential.
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Excellent advice!
This is the reason I stay clear of mechanical and fallen back to my reliable 3 blade 100 grain Muzzy's. at 60 yards, they hit the same point of impact as a field tip.
28" Gold Tip 5574 @ 310 fps, no problem except for the mechanicals
Good advice, Scott.
I shoot 3-D in the summer and always shoot for the kill zone and not the 10-ring. My scores are lower but it makes me a better hunter, which is why I am there in the first place.
It is also important to consider the angle of the body when shooting. A true broadside shot is rarer than most people think.
This is real good advice for any bowhunter and especialy hunters bowhunters with a lower draw weight, or traditional archery. I'll follow this advice on my next hunting trip with my handgun as well. I shot a button buck in the shoulder with my .357 and soft nose bullets at about 30yds and dropped it in its tracks but it bled very little. I shot a doe the same day with the same gun through the brisket and it didn't leave much of anything to follow even at the point it dropped. Good high percentage shots are the only way to go.
Great advice as I have just had this exact incident happen to me on Saturday. Thought my shot was perfect, but never found the deer. I must have hit the shoulder because I did not get a pass through at 20 yards. Trailed for about 75-100 yards and lost blood all of a sudden. Walked the whole area for the deer to no avail. I hate nothing more than shooting a deer and not recovering it.
You are right the front shoulder can be a problem for archers. My last two archery deer were hit a couple inches back of the front shoulder catching lung and liver. Neither went far. Before that i'd hit a couple right in that crease behind the shoulder, they went down w/in 50 yds. I hear from a lot of guys that they lost deer hit square in the shoulder. The key is wait for the shot to present where the shoulder is not in the way.
Good article, I find it's a good shot in a way due to string jumpers. Aim for the heart and if they string jump then your bound to hit the lungs.
Good thoughts.
#1 thing I can say when it comes to hunting is, Know your animal's anatomy. This is a good post in that many people thing because they shoot a 3D target, they are good to go and this could be when they have never taken a shot at a real deer. Know the anatomy, learn where to place a real world shot and then you are good to go.
Great advice I can attest to, put an arrow in the ten ring on a big 9 point. Got both lungs and stuck in the inside of his shoulder blade. Ended up breaking the arrow in two places and breaking the threads off the broad head. He only went 25 yards but I lost an arrow, a head and some meat. Can't complain but an inch or two left and I would have lost the deer too.
Correction,
28" Gold Tip "5575"
I'm new at Bow hunting this is my second year and I use a Recurb bow here in Illinois.. I'm thinking of getting a Cross Bow because I want the meat and if I get a nice trophy then thats cool. Using what(FPS)is a comfortable speed and at what yard dash is ok? can someone please tell me...
I always thought right behind the shoulder was the spot. Then after studying deer anatomy pics it looked like directly above the front leg was the ticket. Now, the general concensus is 3-4 in back of the "shoulder nook"? Man, I'm starting to get confused.
@Valdimir16 - trust your instincts with your shot after studying the anatomy. Know the bone structure. If your shot is placed correctly, you are right. The lungs give you a big area to cover that is why most say the "shoulder" crease.
@Minista - shooting Recurve - you won't be able to hunt with a crossbow unless you are over 65 or disabled with a proper permit. IL is doing something new this year after the 2nd firearm season with cross bow, but I haven't followed up on a it too much to know exactly what will be legal and if that will be for everyone.
More comes into play with distance too. I shot both my deer at 35 yards this year. I have a very fast bow but both deer moved quite a bit before my arrow found them. The doe hunched and turned back toward me hard. My entry point looked as if i had shot her from a tree straight down, when in fact i was on the ground. Hit her just below the spine and only caught lung mid way down on the pass through. 400 yard blood trail but i got her. My buck was quartering away and spun right, i was aiming for the back ribs left side but hit just in front of back leg, got liver and 1 lung. He didn't go 50 yards. I was also on the ground. All that at 340 fps with my Strother Infinity. Both deer were on high alert prior to the shot.
Good post. I have made the error of hitting one in dead smack in the shoulder when I was younger. I did not recover the deer and I felt so bad about it that I almost gave up bow hunting that day. I learned the hard way and I am glad that I tend to give myself a little bit of room when I take shots now. Thanks for the advice.
crossbows these days blow right threw both shoulders at close ranges
I have one of the 3-d targets but even at 20 yards I can't see the rings so I have to pick my spot. I've studied deer anatomy and to start off with when the target was new, I would put a small sticker spot(like the cover spots that come with the shoot-n-see targets)on it where I wanted to aim. Now I don't need that spot because I've trained my eye to find that spot but I still evaluate every shot for quick killing potential.
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