Bass Fishing
Hey, I am a fishing enthusiast and was curious if anyone else out there would think a clear fishing hook would be beneficial to their ultimate goal of catching more fish. Let's say that there was a fishing hook that was virtually invisible to the fish eye and as durable as regular metal hooks. 1)Would you try it? 2) Would you pay a little extra if it worked?
Interested in everyone's response to the idea and the concerns that may prevent people from trying such an idea.
We discuss it at camp the 1st week of trout every year. We are unable to come up with a material that we think would be good enough.
YEs and Yes but u would have to find something the worked
i would suggest testing colors in water to see if the sun blocks them out
then use that color for certain depths
I would try it and be willing to pay a little more extra just to see if it makes a difference. The thing I think it would work best for though is weary natural trout and flies. Just think how more realistic fish baits would seem without those giant metal things hanging from it's stomach.
yes and yes i would pay a little more for a few of those it seems that the fish are a little bit intimadated by the regular metal hooks.
i honestly don't think it would make much of a difference, it's all about presentation and of course your hook selection should match fishin conditions, with those 2 things in mind the fish should never even notice your hook until it's stuck through it's lip. but i expect someone will come out with this one day, just give it time.
I would trty it to see if it worked better than a regular hook, andi would pay the extra money.
i'd try it, but don't know how much i would pay for it till i tested it. it would have to work better than what was said about the red fishing line being invisible, when all it did was get darker.
I'd try it, but I don't think it will make that big of a difference in my fishing. I would give it a try, but if the price was really high, I'd stick to the normal hook.
I don't think fish KNOW what a "hook" is let alone what color it is in the water? Most lures(and colored) hooks are for sportsman to buy not to statify fish!
AS I"VE JUST RETURNED FROM THE FRIDGE FOR SOME CHEESE,I THINK OF THE OLD SAYING; "BUILD A BETTER MOUSE TRAP AND THE WORLD WILL BE KNOCKING ON YOUR DOOR.
Yes and Yes. I await the day that invention arrives.
yes i would use it an i already pay out the wazoo for fishing stuff so ya
Perhaps not so much a clear fishing hook as a hook sort of like a mechanical broadhead - expands on contact.
yes and yes often i throw bait or even soft plastics(biodegradable) in the water that fish haven't been biting when it was on a hook and a huge fish comes up and swallows it. it would love a clear hook to see if it made a difference. more fish is always better.
That would be a big seller. You would have to be careful though. They would be hard to see, obviously, so you could stick yourself pretty easy if you weren't paying attention.
I found the material to make a clear hook out of, but the material and process are expensive.
I definatly would try it and pay extra for it!!! I would of never thought of that. If you start making those you'd probably make a profit, though Kkrltic said it was expensive.
I don't think a clear material would be neccessary.
Just a color that can be matched to water conditions that will effectively become invisible in water.
This reminds me of a 100 gallon marine fish tank I used to keep... it was maybe 3 feet deep. I found that I could use red LED lights at night to illuminate the fish without keeping them awake, or spooking them like the regular "day" lights would. I found that the red light spectrum is the weakest in saltwater... has anyone tested to see the difference in hook rate between regular colored hooks and multiple shades of red?
i am not sure what you would use for a clear hook but i think that regular hooks work fine and they would need to test to see if the fish reacted different to a regular hook or a clear one
I would try one if this hypothetical item existed. However, I don't think that synthetic materials with low visibility would have the right mechanical properties of strength, ability to hold a point, and flexibility for shock absorption.
yes and yes. I think they could use teflon or really tough plastic, but i dont think it would make that much of a difference. people have been catchin fish with metal hooks for a LONG time and the fish didnt seem bothered by it to much(till they got hooked)
Yes and Yes, but it would have too be pretty visible to us, the point would have to be sharp and not wear out, andit woeld have to be as strong as metal.
Oh yeah on both questions. If the hooks visibility was limited to none its bound to catch more fish. And with all the fishing pressure now days, it would probably attract the bigger more "expirenced" fish in that body of water.
i think it would be a bad idea because alot of the times hooks are shiny colors and shiny objects attract fish so i think it would be good to keep the hooks we have now
I dont think it would make a difference. The fish are looking at the lure, not the hook. It might help for live bait fishermen though
i would probably try it but dont think that anything will change. i would not pay any extra for it.
yes i would try it, the only way i would buy it is if i caught 10 times the fish i usually catch. a metal hook works good enough that sounds like a great idea though.
I tried this once with a slow cure epoxy usually optained by a rod making supplier. First make a half mold of a long thick shanked hook #5 or smaller, and then pour in your epoxy and let dry. Once you release this from the mold cut the very tip of the "Glass hook" with a sharp razor and it leaves a very sharp point. I have only been able to catch small fish with this. I can't think of any stronger material as of this time yet. Good luck!
A clear hook falls into the same zone as RED HOOKS they make no differance to fish, just like there is red line out there that is suppose to be invisible to fish if so then the red hook on the bait is to. Just another idea to catch the fisherman and not the fish.
Yes i would use it.
Of course iwould use it. imagine when your fishing for smallies with a popper and the hooks have this reflection to them you would catch way more fish,
yes and yes, i wander what material you could use though....
i think a red hook would be better not just because the spectrum is shorter but because it kind of looks lke blood(if the fish can see it) maybe a red hook with some rubbery plastics floating around it and some fish blood scent too.
Jeez. Make it out of transparent aluminum. Strong enough to hold whales. Didn't anyone see Star Trek 4?!
i dont think it would make much of a difference, sure id probly try it once just out of curiosity. im sure someone will make it someday
I don't agree with people who say no clear hooks, just possibly matching colors to water. They are on the right track, I agree with Kkeltic, clear might screw some people up and pick up light and refract it. But I've read that red is the most invisible color in the water, and am wondering if a translusent red colored hook wouldn't work a little better, for the fish (in our advantage), and for us again of course in our advantage.
I use red power pro on my baitcasters and you can't see it nearly aswell as with moss green in the water.
Just for FYI a clear fishing hook has already been made and produced by the HEDDY Corporation of Patterson NJ . I was made of Lexan . Laxan was from General Electric.
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YEs and Yes but u would have to find something the worked
i would suggest testing colors in water to see if the sun blocks them out
then use that color for certain depths
I would try it and be willing to pay a little more extra just to see if it makes a difference. The thing I think it would work best for though is weary natural trout and flies. Just think how more realistic fish baits would seem without those giant metal things hanging from it's stomach.
We discuss it at camp the 1st week of trout every year. We are unable to come up with a material that we think would be good enough.
i honestly don't think it would make much of a difference, it's all about presentation and of course your hook selection should match fishin conditions, with those 2 things in mind the fish should never even notice your hook until it's stuck through it's lip. but i expect someone will come out with this one day, just give it time.
I would trty it to see if it worked better than a regular hook, andi would pay the extra money.
I'd try it, but I don't think it will make that big of a difference in my fishing. I would give it a try, but if the price was really high, I'd stick to the normal hook.
I don't think fish KNOW what a "hook" is let alone what color it is in the water? Most lures(and colored) hooks are for sportsman to buy not to statify fish!
AS I"VE JUST RETURNED FROM THE FRIDGE FOR SOME CHEESE,I THINK OF THE OLD SAYING; "BUILD A BETTER MOUSE TRAP AND THE WORLD WILL BE KNOCKING ON YOUR DOOR.
yes and yes i would pay a little more for a few of those it seems that the fish are a little bit intimadated by the regular metal hooks.
i'd try it, but don't know how much i would pay for it till i tested it. it would have to work better than what was said about the red fishing line being invisible, when all it did was get darker.
Yes and Yes. I await the day that invention arrives.
yes i would use it an i already pay out the wazoo for fishing stuff so ya
Perhaps not so much a clear fishing hook as a hook sort of like a mechanical broadhead - expands on contact.
yes and yes often i throw bait or even soft plastics(biodegradable) in the water that fish haven't been biting when it was on a hook and a huge fish comes up and swallows it. it would love a clear hook to see if it made a difference. more fish is always better.
That would be a big seller. You would have to be careful though. They would be hard to see, obviously, so you could stick yourself pretty easy if you weren't paying attention.
I found the material to make a clear hook out of, but the material and process are expensive.
I definatly would try it and pay extra for it!!! I would of never thought of that. If you start making those you'd probably make a profit, though Kkrltic said it was expensive.
I don't think a clear material would be neccessary.
Just a color that can be matched to water conditions that will effectively become invisible in water.
This reminds me of a 100 gallon marine fish tank I used to keep... it was maybe 3 feet deep. I found that I could use red LED lights at night to illuminate the fish without keeping them awake, or spooking them like the regular "day" lights would. I found that the red light spectrum is the weakest in saltwater... has anyone tested to see the difference in hook rate between regular colored hooks and multiple shades of red?
i am not sure what you would use for a clear hook but i think that regular hooks work fine and they would need to test to see if the fish reacted different to a regular hook or a clear one
I would try one if this hypothetical item existed. However, I don't think that synthetic materials with low visibility would have the right mechanical properties of strength, ability to hold a point, and flexibility for shock absorption.
yes and yes. I think they could use teflon or really tough plastic, but i dont think it would make that much of a difference. people have been catchin fish with metal hooks for a LONG time and the fish didnt seem bothered by it to much(till they got hooked)
Yes and Yes, but it would have too be pretty visible to us, the point would have to be sharp and not wear out, andit woeld have to be as strong as metal.
I dont think it would make a difference. The fish are looking at the lure, not the hook. It might help for live bait fishermen though
i would probably try it but dont think that anything will change. i would not pay any extra for it.
yes i would try it, the only way i would buy it is if i caught 10 times the fish i usually catch. a metal hook works good enough that sounds like a great idea though.
Jeez. Make it out of transparent aluminum. Strong enough to hold whales. Didn't anyone see Star Trek 4?!
I use red power pro on my baitcasters and you can't see it nearly aswell as with moss green in the water.
Oh yeah on both questions. If the hooks visibility was limited to none its bound to catch more fish. And with all the fishing pressure now days, it would probably attract the bigger more "expirenced" fish in that body of water.
i think it would be a bad idea because alot of the times hooks are shiny colors and shiny objects attract fish so i think it would be good to keep the hooks we have now
I tried this once with a slow cure epoxy usually optained by a rod making supplier. First make a half mold of a long thick shanked hook #5 or smaller, and then pour in your epoxy and let dry. Once you release this from the mold cut the very tip of the "Glass hook" with a sharp razor and it leaves a very sharp point. I have only been able to catch small fish with this. I can't think of any stronger material as of this time yet. Good luck!
A clear hook falls into the same zone as RED HOOKS they make no differance to fish, just like there is red line out there that is suppose to be invisible to fish if so then the red hook on the bait is to. Just another idea to catch the fisherman and not the fish.
Yes i would use it.
Of course iwould use it. imagine when your fishing for smallies with a popper and the hooks have this reflection to them you would catch way more fish,
yes and yes, i wander what material you could use though....
i think a red hook would be better not just because the spectrum is shorter but because it kind of looks lke blood(if the fish can see it) maybe a red hook with some rubbery plastics floating around it and some fish blood scent too.
i dont think it would make much of a difference, sure id probly try it once just out of curiosity. im sure someone will make it someday
I don't agree with people who say no clear hooks, just possibly matching colors to water. They are on the right track, I agree with Kkeltic, clear might screw some people up and pick up light and refract it. But I've read that red is the most invisible color in the water, and am wondering if a translusent red colored hook wouldn't work a little better, for the fish (in our advantage), and for us again of course in our advantage.
Just for FYI a clear fishing hook has already been made and produced by the HEDDY Corporation of Patterson NJ . I was made of Lexan . Laxan was from General Electric.
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