Deer Hunting
Some deer hunters consider a season a success when they fill the freezer with meat, others will only be happy if they kill a buck with an impressive rack.
I wonder how the percentages break down - is it 40% meat hunter and 60% trophy hunters, or what? Actually it probably isn't that simple, most people want both meat and a trophy and lean more toward one or the other.
I would think that it also changes over time. When you first start out, simply getting a deer, any deer is what matters. (I'm still in that phase.) Over time, you want to "improve" and I would imagine most hunters measure improvement by bigger scoring racks - but I can imagine other measures of success - getting a deer in a location that has beaten you before; getting a deer within a shorter period of time; or, simply finding time to break away from life's other responsibilities and get into the woods regardless of whether or not you get a deer.
Anyone else care to share their thoughts on the matter?
Success in my mind is any time you are in the field or on the stream. I just return the other night with a spike buck that is now hanging in my garage it is not the biggest dear I have ever shot but it will join the half a moose in my freezer and on Sunday evening coming home from ice fishing and having some venision stew and bannock I will feel very successful.
It's all about the hunt. I do like a nice rack for the wall but that's not always possible. This year i haven't seen many wall-worthy bucks. I passed a couple decent young bucks and shot a doe, so my season is not a loss. Now i do hope to shoot a good buck to make it a really good season. Any time i shoot a deer with my bow and make a clean kill, it's a good season, buck or doe. When i'm able to pass on bucks i'dve been happy to shoot a few years ago, that also makes me feel good as a hunter.
In my opinion I think deer in the freezer is how successful you are. At least you got something.
It's all about the hunt with me, too. We had a good trip this year with no hassles or trouble. Even though I never fired a shot, I felt that it was a great hunt getting together with old friends and making one new acquaintance. Although most of us hunt pretty much alone each day, we get together in the evenings and help each other recover game as necessary. I'll even quit hunting for a bit to help one of my buddies drag out a deer or elk. I might miss some opportunities doing that, but I always feel good about helping my friends. None of us are spring chickens anymore. My freezer stays pretty full anyway.
To me its more of self-satisfaction. If you are happy with putting meat on the table, then any deer is a success. Or if you want your name in B&C or P&Y record books, a wall hanger is a success. Its all a matter of personal opinion. I love going early season and filling my freezer with doe meat. I also get a thrill by hunting old small racked bucks. These deer are smart and provide a huge challenge. But a trophy book deer really makes my heart pump as well and if anybody tells you a wall hanger isn't what they want,,, well they're lying. As humans we all like to show off and brag and are way too competitive to not want to harvest the "king of the woods."
I seriously doubt i'll ever kill a "Book" buck, but if my freezer is stocked, i'm always looking for a personal best. I may not hold out for it, but that's my idealogy
Both !
Horns are nice but ya can't eat em !
I measure success in the stories I bring home and share with friends and family. Some of my best memories afield were the days I never fired a shot.
As they say, happiness is in the journey not in the arrival.
MLH, very true indeed
Success is being out alone in the bush or at the edge of the field with my dogs. I have never hunted for trophies although I have knocked down some very impressive racks over the years. If I come home with an animal or birds, great. If not, well that's great too. And I don't have to clean or butcher anything! Let's face it, hunting is almost always a losing proposition economically. If filling the freezer is so important, you'd usually be many dollars ahead driving to the grocery store or butcher shop. I have two outstanding elk racks, three pretty good moose racks, and I don't know how many deer racks. Where can you put all those things? Frankly, the only wall mount that has ever appealed to me much is antelope and I really don't care to have one of those in my freezer anyway.
I would rather have the meat. but a trophy would be nice too.
sharing meat in the ice fishing shanty or deer camp is it for me. nobody appreciates it more than other sportmen. Wall hangers are a bonus to the bounty in the freezer.
Some kid in my class called me a retard for shooting a spike and "wasting" one of my buck tags. He says he leaves little bucks and any does to "little kids". Then he asks me again, "Why didn't you wait for a trophy?!" (I still have a buck tag left, I don't understand the big deal...). I said, " I leave those heavy horned, tough, gamey, and stringy animals to the adults. I measure my trophies with my belly."
So yeah, I won't give a damn about those "trophy" animals till my freezers filled. I'll happily shoot another spike! But, maybe Ill see a trophy... Then Ill turn it into burger and jerky, because it's too tough and gamy to eat straight up. I do want an antler knife, though.
I think you are all right,as a meat hunter I don't worry about antlers.
For me,it's the whole experence,most
importantly hunting and fishing is how I deal with stress,it keeps me grounded I come out of the woods{with or without a deer}a much more relaxed person.
Think about all the beautiful sunrises you have seen,hearing the woods wake up around you, it renews your spirit!
Successful hunting to me is being able to get up, meet with good friends, get in the woods, listen to all the animals wake up, hopefully see and kill a deer wether it's a doe for the freezer or a wall hanger(or good shop hanger). Then coming out of the woods, hopefully helping a buddy with a deer they killed or them helping me. Hanging out for a while before we go back into the woods to hunt some more for the evening
In my opinion it is whatever walks by your stand. If it is good meat that is what i'm happy about, if it is a huge rack, i'm also happy. I think though that I lean more towards meat. I say this because my neighbors won't shoot does or any buck under 8 points. I shoot at almost anything.
i think it is a good hunt when you can say you had fun with your buddies it dont matter if you get a kill just have fun out there
Good hunt--good hunting partners--enjoying the great outdoors--all the great things in my book. Will shoot mature bucks when possible, but, a good old dry doe, goes through my freezer and smoke house just as well. Vension is our red meat of choice. Our steers go to the marketplace not in our freezer.
Success is a total state of mind. My definition of success on a deer hunt is being able to get away, have a great and safe time and be in the great outdoors. Anything more than that is icing on the cake!
In my mind, you can eat what's in the freezer, you can't eat the mount on the wall.
Lots of pictures, quality time with my kids and friends, something for the freezer, all equal success to me. Horns or hide are a bonus.
I'm out of room on the wall but it seems like there is always room in my freezer. Sometimes the deer that I shoot for my freezer have a pretty nice rack on them and that is a bonus. I measure my time left by the quality experience I have in the woods, tha animals that I see and wonderful scenery that I am allowed to enjoy. Every minute that I enjoy in the woods I cherish because I know there will not be as many as there have been in the past.
untill i find a buck worthy of the wall my succes will be measured by the does that fill the freezer
I find that some of my most successful days hunting are the days when I walk back to the pickup empty handed. Especially the days when you just know that you have the deer figured out and they do the exact opposite of what you were sure they were going to do, but at the very least you get to enjoy a sunrise or sunset, some wonderful sights and sounds and every now and again witness something truly remarkable. Antlers are always nice but a nice fat doe is as much a trophy especially after a hard hunt.
We cut up our own deer, grind our own meat, and make our own sausage and venison burgers. I can't eat any antlers so we want meat to put in the freezer. Antlers take up to much space in the freezer anyway and they are tough to eat! I put 160 pounds of deer meat in the freezer last fall as some of the hunters in our party didn't want any deer meat. Venison is a more healthy meat than a butchered steer. If one does shoot a trophy buck, don't parade it around town.
I did say that you can eat what's in the freezer but not on the wall.
That said, if you can combine the two, as in get a good deer that will fill the freezer and he happens to be worthy of the wall, then put him on the wall, but hunt for the freezer not the wall.
getting outside in the field.
A "trophy" is whatever you make one to be. As a young hunter, a "trophy" may be considered a doe. Or even as an experienced hunter, a doe or average buck is a trophy.
I don't understand why deer hunting has become so competitive and strict for so many hunters. I have never understood the whole "passing" idea for deer. When I am in my stand, the first opportunity I get, regardless of size or rack, I shoot, and take my deer home. There's no such thing as "passin up" for me.
It's just as sportsy to take home a young buck or doe as it is to take home a "180+ class buck." It's not like it takes any more skill to shoot a big deer than it does to shoot a smaller one.
I think deer hunters need to quit being so competitive about our sport. It's stupid. If hunters back in the 1800's would know we are so competitive like so many of us are, they would think we were abusing the sport. We need to remember that we as hunters have a priviledge to do what we do, and there are plenty of anti-gun/anti-hunting whack jobs out there who would like nothing more than to destroy our hunting priviledges.
going to try that meatball and mustard sauce recipe from April issue... that to me my friend will be a trophy! I mean...success in eating meatballs and of course a couple of beers!
hang that on the wall!
It is all about the hunt for me. Good friends, beautiful country and good food make the hunt! Sucess as in filling a tag is secondary.
We could appreciate our sport of deer hunting much more if it was against the law to say "boone and crocket". We should talk about the satisfaction we have of enjoying all of Gods creation and creatures, both large and small. The time spent with friends and relatives. The deer will be here after we are gone but our friends and relatives will going along with us either before us or close behind. The sight of an eagle or a wild turkey or even a gray squirrel playing in a tree is a trophy experience to me. I kill an eight point or better buck each year but I don't really consider them a trophy just another gift allowed me. I don't put them on the wall just in the freezer. I enjoy the time spent in nature as the true trophy allowed me by the Creator. I just hope that He allows me several more years to enjoy the great outdoors.
probably going against the grain here when i say i measure by the size of the rack. where i hunt if i wanted to i could shoot a doe every time out and put meat in the freezer. ive shot one doe, because a buddy wanted the meat, so i bought a tag. got to my hunting spot, parked the car, walked about 2 minutes up towards the road and within 10 minutes i shot a doe. piece of cake. i have way more fun when im buck hunting. i dont see to many where im at, i have to work my ass off to get one, its way more challenging for me to buck hunt. i hunt because i like the challenge of it. i dont get much a challenge out of the meat hunting for doe. i know there patterns, and there are so many on the properties i hunt in know exactly where they are at every point during the day, its just not challenging. bucks are different. most are nocturnal and in all honesty they tend to be smarter in my opinion.
I like to buck hunt too, but I don't get hung up if I don't kill one. We have to kill does to keep our herd in check so we kill does for our meat instead of little bucks. I spend alot of days when I don't see a buck that I want to kill.
sargeo i didnt get a buck this year, only saw one, and he was a spike...he was well within bow range, and in past years i probably would have shot him, but this season i let him walk.
Meat is good, but when its gone, the mount is nice as well.
I'd say that the offseason buildup and years before harvest are a large contributor because you can see them grow and mature into larger game. Its good to keep at least one monster out there in the woods. It makes the greenhorn's eye wide when you tell them what is possible to get.
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I measure success in the stories I bring home and share with friends and family. Some of my best memories afield were the days I never fired a shot.
Success in my mind is any time you are in the field or on the stream. I just return the other night with a spike buck that is now hanging in my garage it is not the biggest dear I have ever shot but it will join the half a moose in my freezer and on Sunday evening coming home from ice fishing and having some venision stew and bannock I will feel very successful.
It's all about the hunt. I do like a nice rack for the wall but that's not always possible. This year i haven't seen many wall-worthy bucks. I passed a couple decent young bucks and shot a doe, so my season is not a loss. Now i do hope to shoot a good buck to make it a really good season. Any time i shoot a deer with my bow and make a clean kill, it's a good season, buck or doe. When i'm able to pass on bucks i'dve been happy to shoot a few years ago, that also makes me feel good as a hunter.
To me its more of self-satisfaction. If you are happy with putting meat on the table, then any deer is a success. Or if you want your name in B&C or P&Y record books, a wall hanger is a success. Its all a matter of personal opinion. I love going early season and filling my freezer with doe meat. I also get a thrill by hunting old small racked bucks. These deer are smart and provide a huge challenge. But a trophy book deer really makes my heart pump as well and if anybody tells you a wall hanger isn't what they want,,, well they're lying. As humans we all like to show off and brag and are way too competitive to not want to harvest the "king of the woods."
As they say, happiness is in the journey not in the arrival.
It's all about the hunt with me, too. We had a good trip this year with no hassles or trouble. Even though I never fired a shot, I felt that it was a great hunt getting together with old friends and making one new acquaintance. Although most of us hunt pretty much alone each day, we get together in the evenings and help each other recover game as necessary. I'll even quit hunting for a bit to help one of my buddies drag out a deer or elk. I might miss some opportunities doing that, but I always feel good about helping my friends. None of us are spring chickens anymore. My freezer stays pretty full anyway.
I'm out of room on the wall but it seems like there is always room in my freezer. Sometimes the deer that I shoot for my freezer have a pretty nice rack on them and that is a bonus. I measure my time left by the quality experience I have in the woods, tha animals that I see and wonderful scenery that I am allowed to enjoy. Every minute that I enjoy in the woods I cherish because I know there will not be as many as there have been in the past.
We could appreciate our sport of deer hunting much more if it was against the law to say "boone and crocket". We should talk about the satisfaction we have of enjoying all of Gods creation and creatures, both large and small. The time spent with friends and relatives. The deer will be here after we are gone but our friends and relatives will going along with us either before us or close behind. The sight of an eagle or a wild turkey or even a gray squirrel playing in a tree is a trophy experience to me. I kill an eight point or better buck each year but I don't really consider them a trophy just another gift allowed me. I don't put them on the wall just in the freezer. I enjoy the time spent in nature as the true trophy allowed me by the Creator. I just hope that He allows me several more years to enjoy the great outdoors.
Meat is good, but when its gone, the mount is nice as well.
I'd say that the offseason buildup and years before harvest are a large contributor because you can see them grow and mature into larger game. Its good to keep at least one monster out there in the woods. It makes the greenhorn's eye wide when you tell them what is possible to get.
In my opinion I think deer in the freezer is how successful you are. At least you got something.
I seriously doubt i'll ever kill a "Book" buck, but if my freezer is stocked, i'm always looking for a personal best. I may not hold out for it, but that's my idealogy
Both !
Horns are nice but ya can't eat em !
Success is being out alone in the bush or at the edge of the field with my dogs. I have never hunted for trophies although I have knocked down some very impressive racks over the years. If I come home with an animal or birds, great. If not, well that's great too. And I don't have to clean or butcher anything! Let's face it, hunting is almost always a losing proposition economically. If filling the freezer is so important, you'd usually be many dollars ahead driving to the grocery store or butcher shop. I have two outstanding elk racks, three pretty good moose racks, and I don't know how many deer racks. Where can you put all those things? Frankly, the only wall mount that has ever appealed to me much is antelope and I really don't care to have one of those in my freezer anyway.
sharing meat in the ice fishing shanty or deer camp is it for me. nobody appreciates it more than other sportmen. Wall hangers are a bonus to the bounty in the freezer.
I think you are all right,as a meat hunter I don't worry about antlers.
For me,it's the whole experence,most
importantly hunting and fishing is how I deal with stress,it keeps me grounded I come out of the woods{with or without a deer}a much more relaxed person.
Think about all the beautiful sunrises you have seen,hearing the woods wake up around you, it renews your spirit!
Successful hunting to me is being able to get up, meet with good friends, get in the woods, listen to all the animals wake up, hopefully see and kill a deer wether it's a doe for the freezer or a wall hanger(or good shop hanger). Then coming out of the woods, hopefully helping a buddy with a deer they killed or them helping me. Hanging out for a while before we go back into the woods to hunt some more for the evening
i think it is a good hunt when you can say you had fun with your buddies it dont matter if you get a kill just have fun out there
Good hunt--good hunting partners--enjoying the great outdoors--all the great things in my book. Will shoot mature bucks when possible, but, a good old dry doe, goes through my freezer and smoke house just as well. Vension is our red meat of choice. Our steers go to the marketplace not in our freezer.
Lots of pictures, quality time with my kids and friends, something for the freezer, all equal success to me. Horns or hide are a bonus.
untill i find a buck worthy of the wall my succes will be measured by the does that fill the freezer
sargeo i didnt get a buck this year, only saw one, and he was a spike...he was well within bow range, and in past years i probably would have shot him, but this season i let him walk.
MLH, very true indeed
I would rather have the meat. but a trophy would be nice too.
Some kid in my class called me a retard for shooting a spike and "wasting" one of my buck tags. He says he leaves little bucks and any does to "little kids". Then he asks me again, "Why didn't you wait for a trophy?!" (I still have a buck tag left, I don't understand the big deal...). I said, " I leave those heavy horned, tough, gamey, and stringy animals to the adults. I measure my trophies with my belly."
So yeah, I won't give a damn about those "trophy" animals till my freezers filled. I'll happily shoot another spike! But, maybe Ill see a trophy... Then Ill turn it into burger and jerky, because it's too tough and gamy to eat straight up. I do want an antler knife, though.
In my opinion it is whatever walks by your stand. If it is good meat that is what i'm happy about, if it is a huge rack, i'm also happy. I think though that I lean more towards meat. I say this because my neighbors won't shoot does or any buck under 8 points. I shoot at almost anything.
Success is a total state of mind. My definition of success on a deer hunt is being able to get away, have a great and safe time and be in the great outdoors. Anything more than that is icing on the cake!
In my mind, you can eat what's in the freezer, you can't eat the mount on the wall.
I find that some of my most successful days hunting are the days when I walk back to the pickup empty handed. Especially the days when you just know that you have the deer figured out and they do the exact opposite of what you were sure they were going to do, but at the very least you get to enjoy a sunrise or sunset, some wonderful sights and sounds and every now and again witness something truly remarkable. Antlers are always nice but a nice fat doe is as much a trophy especially after a hard hunt.
We cut up our own deer, grind our own meat, and make our own sausage and venison burgers. I can't eat any antlers so we want meat to put in the freezer. Antlers take up to much space in the freezer anyway and they are tough to eat! I put 160 pounds of deer meat in the freezer last fall as some of the hunters in our party didn't want any deer meat. Venison is a more healthy meat than a butchered steer. If one does shoot a trophy buck, don't parade it around town.
I did say that you can eat what's in the freezer but not on the wall.
That said, if you can combine the two, as in get a good deer that will fill the freezer and he happens to be worthy of the wall, then put him on the wall, but hunt for the freezer not the wall.
getting outside in the field.
A "trophy" is whatever you make one to be. As a young hunter, a "trophy" may be considered a doe. Or even as an experienced hunter, a doe or average buck is a trophy.
I don't understand why deer hunting has become so competitive and strict for so many hunters. I have never understood the whole "passing" idea for deer. When I am in my stand, the first opportunity I get, regardless of size or rack, I shoot, and take my deer home. There's no such thing as "passin up" for me.
It's just as sportsy to take home a young buck or doe as it is to take home a "180+ class buck." It's not like it takes any more skill to shoot a big deer than it does to shoot a smaller one.
I think deer hunters need to quit being so competitive about our sport. It's stupid. If hunters back in the 1800's would know we are so competitive like so many of us are, they would think we were abusing the sport. We need to remember that we as hunters have a priviledge to do what we do, and there are plenty of anti-gun/anti-hunting whack jobs out there who would like nothing more than to destroy our hunting priviledges.
going to try that meatball and mustard sauce recipe from April issue... that to me my friend will be a trophy! I mean...success in eating meatballs and of course a couple of beers!
hang that on the wall!
It is all about the hunt for me. Good friends, beautiful country and good food make the hunt! Sucess as in filling a tag is secondary.
probably going against the grain here when i say i measure by the size of the rack. where i hunt if i wanted to i could shoot a doe every time out and put meat in the freezer. ive shot one doe, because a buddy wanted the meat, so i bought a tag. got to my hunting spot, parked the car, walked about 2 minutes up towards the road and within 10 minutes i shot a doe. piece of cake. i have way more fun when im buck hunting. i dont see to many where im at, i have to work my ass off to get one, its way more challenging for me to buck hunt. i hunt because i like the challenge of it. i dont get much a challenge out of the meat hunting for doe. i know there patterns, and there are so many on the properties i hunt in know exactly where they are at every point during the day, its just not challenging. bucks are different. most are nocturnal and in all honesty they tend to be smarter in my opinion.
I like to buck hunt too, but I don't get hung up if I don't kill one. We have to kill does to keep our herd in check so we kill does for our meat instead of little bucks. I spend alot of days when I don't see a buck that I want to kill.
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