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Anyone have any experience shooting .22lr #12 birdshot rounds? One of the farms that I varmit hunt on has asked me to help him remove an excessive number of pigeons and starlings in his barns, but doesnt want his barns full of "ventilation holes".What kind of range can I expect with a 20" barrel?

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from NolanOsborne wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

Depends on what the roof is made out of, but consider these?

http://www.cci-ammunition.com/products/detail.aspx?use=1&loadNo=0064

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from NolanOsborne wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

If you have a gun you can shoot .22 Shorts in use CCI CB shorts. They run around 710fps but will still take out pigeons fine.

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from alabamaoutlaw wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

If you are talking about the CCI shotshells for a 22 maybe five feet they stink.I bought a box to shoot snakes and was highly disapointed they are worthless and the birds have feathers.You would be better with a good .177 or .22 cal pellet gun and sneak around and hunt them at night with a light.

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from Ontario Honker ... wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

Bama is right! They are useless for anything but giving the neighbor's cat a spanking for pinching one off in your garden.

When I was a kid my brother and I asked to hunt ducks at the Buck place. Phill never let anyone hunt his potholes but we thought we'd ask. Since we were kids he took pity on us but only on condition that we eliminate the pigeon problem in his barn. Mike and I took turns, one guy standing under the open hay loft door to pass shoot while the other one hit the roof with rocks or pellets. We got most of them before they finally smartened up and quit coming back.

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from Ontario Honker ... wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

Use a .410 if you can get one. That will just ventilate the birds if you're shooting inside the barn. And you'll probably get a couple of birds with one shot if you shoot em on the roost. .22 shorts might work but they don't have much range at all. One shot and the birds will be outta there.

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from Drew Steven Knoop wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

Use a Bow with a blunt point!!! Might be fun too!!!

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from Beekeeper wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

Trapping might be a viable alternative as well. As for shooting and punching a hole in the barn I agree with the Bamaoutlaw on shooting them at night with a .177 pellet rifle.

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from MLH wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

For snakes the .22 shotshells have to be used almost point blank. Never tried them on a bird but the patterns open up within a few feet (try patterning on a piece of blank paper). I agree - .177 pellet. Too much chance of a ricochet or pass through with a .22 rifle.

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from Cgull wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

You could try hanging a chambered net in the fly zone, the birds, the can fly in but they cant fly out. A chambered net would be baffled one way simular to catfish hoops.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

Actuaslly, that 22lr with #12 is actually a RAT SHOT round and not intended for anything larger than that with the exception of putting stray dogs in warp drive! You would be better off using a good pallet rifle. When I was 9, I went down to the Kansas City Southern Locomotive Maintenance building and shot pigeons for them. At first they were paying me a quarter a bird but after an hour they started to go broke! Grandfather at the time worked just down the track as one of the KCS Telegraph Operators.

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from Beekeeper wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

Cgull,

That would be interesting with a pidgeon. I've never tried it with anything larger than a song bird. Bet it would be a hoot to get 10 or 12 at a time in one!

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from hickboy518 wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

the range i have found is not all that great L would look to use a gamo pellet gun or like my uncles used to do on farms as a kid back in the day they would get a few buddies and toss a firecrackers or two insde and take care of them outside that way you do not damage the barn or silo at all

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from Jeff Bowers wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

Hmmm. Last time I used the CCI .22 shotshells was in a basement range. The pistol was a North American Arms small revolver. The target was beer cans. At a range of 10 feet, from a 2-inch barrel, the shot went through both sides and some pellets scratched the block wall.

Don't know how that math translates to birds.

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from bigjake wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

Thanks for the info guys, Im bummed that these shells have gotten a thumbs down from so many of you.Ive always wanted to try them out, but at $15 for 50 rounds, I could never justify buying them.I really wanted to fill my Rem 597's 30rd mags, close up the loft doors and do some indoor wingshooting, but know it looks more like its gonna be some good old .177 air rifle sniping instead.

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from Sourdough Dave wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

They hold an almost useless amount of #9 shot that in itself is useless. At any range over a few feet the rifling will turn the "pattern" into a doughnut. My vote goes to the .177 pellet rifle.

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from Sourdough Dave wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

Sorry, I meant #12 shot that is useless. The #9 is in the .38 and .44 shot loads and are likewise next to useless.

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from 4trx300 wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

pellet rifle,as stated above gets my vote.good luck .

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from spartan88 wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

Pellet rifle would be fun. My guess is for pigeons and smaller you don't even need 1000fps. Probably could get it done with a daisy powerline 880 (from the blogs and wiki's I have read, I own one but only plink with it) if you only take head shots. It is quiet enough that you could probably clean house with out them spooking.

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from NolanOsborne wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

Depends on what the roof is made out of, but consider these?

http://www.cci-ammunition.com/products/detail.aspx?use=1&loadNo=0064

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from alabamaoutlaw wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

If you are talking about the CCI shotshells for a 22 maybe five feet they stink.I bought a box to shoot snakes and was highly disapointed they are worthless and the birds have feathers.You would be better with a good .177 or .22 cal pellet gun and sneak around and hunt them at night with a light.

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from Ontario Honker ... wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

Bama is right! They are useless for anything but giving the neighbor's cat a spanking for pinching one off in your garden.

When I was a kid my brother and I asked to hunt ducks at the Buck place. Phill never let anyone hunt his potholes but we thought we'd ask. Since we were kids he took pity on us but only on condition that we eliminate the pigeon problem in his barn. Mike and I took turns, one guy standing under the open hay loft door to pass shoot while the other one hit the roof with rocks or pellets. We got most of them before they finally smartened up and quit coming back.

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from Ontario Honker ... wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

Use a .410 if you can get one. That will just ventilate the birds if you're shooting inside the barn. And you'll probably get a couple of birds with one shot if you shoot em on the roost. .22 shorts might work but they don't have much range at all. One shot and the birds will be outta there.

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from Beekeeper wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

Trapping might be a viable alternative as well. As for shooting and punching a hole in the barn I agree with the Bamaoutlaw on shooting them at night with a .177 pellet rifle.

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from MLH wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

For snakes the .22 shotshells have to be used almost point blank. Never tried them on a bird but the patterns open up within a few feet (try patterning on a piece of blank paper). I agree - .177 pellet. Too much chance of a ricochet or pass through with a .22 rifle.

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from Cgull wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

You could try hanging a chambered net in the fly zone, the birds, the can fly in but they cant fly out. A chambered net would be baffled one way simular to catfish hoops.

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from bigjake wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

Thanks for the info guys, Im bummed that these shells have gotten a thumbs down from so many of you.Ive always wanted to try them out, but at $15 for 50 rounds, I could never justify buying them.I really wanted to fill my Rem 597's 30rd mags, close up the loft doors and do some indoor wingshooting, but know it looks more like its gonna be some good old .177 air rifle sniping instead.

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from NolanOsborne wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

If you have a gun you can shoot .22 Shorts in use CCI CB shorts. They run around 710fps but will still take out pigeons fine.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Drew Steven Knoop wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

Use a Bow with a blunt point!!! Might be fun too!!!

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Clay Cooper wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

Actuaslly, that 22lr with #12 is actually a RAT SHOT round and not intended for anything larger than that with the exception of putting stray dogs in warp drive! You would be better off using a good pallet rifle. When I was 9, I went down to the Kansas City Southern Locomotive Maintenance building and shot pigeons for them. At first they were paying me a quarter a bird but after an hour they started to go broke! Grandfather at the time worked just down the track as one of the KCS Telegraph Operators.

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from Beekeeper wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

Cgull,

That would be interesting with a pidgeon. I've never tried it with anything larger than a song bird. Bet it would be a hoot to get 10 or 12 at a time in one!

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from hickboy518 wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

the range i have found is not all that great L would look to use a gamo pellet gun or like my uncles used to do on farms as a kid back in the day they would get a few buddies and toss a firecrackers or two insde and take care of them outside that way you do not damage the barn or silo at all

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from spartan88 wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

Pellet rifle would be fun. My guess is for pigeons and smaller you don't even need 1000fps. Probably could get it done with a daisy powerline 880 (from the blogs and wiki's I have read, I own one but only plink with it) if you only take head shots. It is quiet enough that you could probably clean house with out them spooking.

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from Jeff Bowers wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

Hmmm. Last time I used the CCI .22 shotshells was in a basement range. The pistol was a North American Arms small revolver. The target was beer cans. At a range of 10 feet, from a 2-inch barrel, the shot went through both sides and some pellets scratched the block wall.

Don't know how that math translates to birds.

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from Sourdough Dave wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

They hold an almost useless amount of #9 shot that in itself is useless. At any range over a few feet the rifling will turn the "pattern" into a doughnut. My vote goes to the .177 pellet rifle.

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from Sourdough Dave wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

Sorry, I meant #12 shot that is useless. The #9 is in the .38 and .44 shot loads and are likewise next to useless.

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from 4trx300 wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

pellet rifle,as stated above gets my vote.good luck .

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