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Question by flatcreekbowhunter. Uploaded on December 16, 2009
That's a trifle on the high side. If it is reasonably new and in good shape $600-650 for scope and rifle would be a good bargaining point. In my neck of the woods I've seen comparable rifle/scope combos sell for $500 lately...it's a tough economy...
A 50 mm scope on a Model 7...? That will get your cheek up off the stock.
what do you mean?
I'd say thats kinda high, I could put that combo togeather brand new for less than that. If its in really good condition I would think about giving $550-600 for it.
MSRP for the 7 is $800, and msrp for the scope is 450, However I can get that scope at gander mt for about 250, and the rifle for about 500 new
so how do i go about talking them down
Do your research... be confident show them that you can put that combo togeather new for about the same price or less. And if they wont budge then go buy another new or used gun from someone who is willing to give you a more reasonable price.
the cheapest i can find that scope is 285 and the rifle is 700-800 everywhere i look, can you send me a link to where you see these cheaper prices
http://www.bigplanetgear.com/catalog/product.asp?pid=55383&ret_id=108903.... is one i just found in 30 sec for the scope at $254, but the rifle deals are always in store. My local gander academy and bass pro are always way lower than Msrp and usually have great deals after hunting season.
Take a look at Gunbroker.com This site is an online auction and is a great place to use to establish values on the current market and to buy guns as well.
As for bargaining, it is as much an art as it is anything else. You have to know prices and pieces. You also need the gift of gab. It is not necessarily a one time hagle and leave with the gun. I've made as many as 3-4 trips by a place slowly working towards a price I can live with. The longer an item sits on the shelf the easier the deal usually is. If the price doesn't suit you or your wallet don't buy. Be patient, the deal will come.
One of the best times to buy a gun is after hunting season is over and especially after Christmas! The shop owners know it's a long time until the "I have to have it", rush starts. A lot of guns are dumped after Christmas to help pay bills. Also, some guys wife buys him something he doesn't want... and he wants to unload it.
I assume you mean my comment on the scope. Typically on a short action, short barreled rifle like Model 7, a scope with a 50 mm objective will require high mounts to clear. High mounts on such a rifle will typically require you to mount the gun in a "heads up" position to see through the scope. This gets your cheek up off the stock and does not contribute to good shooting form and may make it difficult to shoot the gun accurately. It also looks too big for the gun in my opinion. If you like it buy it! I was just tossing in my two copper coins!
Also a good time to buy big magnums that the boys dump after one season! LOL
I agree with Beekeeper. You can find a cheaper rifle/scope combo than that! You don't need a 50mm Objective Lens on a rifle getting 3-9X Magnification! The 40mm or 42mm is just as good, and you won't sacrifice your cheek rest as well.
Unless that rifle is "Like New In the Box", I would give no more than $475 to $500 for the rifle and not more than $100 for a used Buckmaster scope. For a a Model 7, a 2-7x33 or comparable is a much more balanced rig. As-is, it has a little too much scope for the compact rifle. I like Remington rifles, but am not a super fan of the 20 inch barrel on most Model 7's. I personally prefer a Model 700 with a 22 or 24 inch barrel.
Also, when you go to sell a gun, they NEVER give you much of anything for the scope that goes on it! So, keep your scope if it has served you well, check out natchez shooting supply online for refurbished and discounted scopes...
A LOT more than I would pay for any gun. Guns aren't an investment for me. They're something to use, and I use em hard. Doesn't make sense for me to buy something fancy.
I'm with Bee on this one. Too high on the price and way too much scope for the gun. I would go with a better quality scope say a VXIII leopold and less power with a smaller objective. A 2-7X would be fine. I have shot a carload of deer, bear, and moose with a 1.75-5X on a Rem 700 classic 350 Rem mag. Many people put way too much power in their scopes then can't find the target when they throw the gun up because of the limited field of view.
$600 is in the ballpark and a fair price. The owner has about $800 invested in the gun, but they're not factoring in the "used" part.
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