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Why do you think it is ethical to hunt quail and pheasant with a dog but not ethical to hunt a deer with dogs?

Question by teufelhunden. Uploaded on March 26, 2009

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from Clay Cooper wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

You’re kidding me; you can’t figure that one out! LOL!

The reason I don’t like deer hunted with dogs is plain simple.

How many times have you come around a corner of a road and be looking down someone’s gun barrel waiting for the deer to cross!

By the way, State Laws prohibit the discharge of a weapon within 100 feet of the centerline of the road!!

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from Clay Cooper wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

Hunting quail and pheasant the hunter has the dog under control whereas deer dogs are let loose running any direction they go! In a area closed to hunting deer with dogs, dogs are shot by a few hunters. If you value your dog like I do, don’t run dogs in a closed area!

By the way, I wish I had the cost of Bud being chilled in coolers in those trucks with hunters awaiting deer to cross!

Hunting while intoxicated, shooting from a vehicle, discharging a weapon from a road and reckless endangerment!

GO FIQURE!

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from Clay Cooper wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

Tracking a wounded deer with a dog on a leash I don't have a problem with it, in fact I encourage it even in an area closed to dogs!

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from CPT BRAD wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

I'll agree with Clay on all points. I have seen the situations he is talking about in SE AR, however I do like dogs for hunting and hold it as some of my fondest memories. The key is to get in the woods and hunt. The Game Warden should be called anytime there is a group of drunk hunters. I don't care who you are or where you are unless its at camp and the guns are cased. I don't think its ethical for one vs the other but I think the hunters are UN Ethical that fall under Clays statements above, not the dogs.

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from teufelhunden wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

Who said anything about hunting from a road? When did alcohol get involved? everyone I have ever seen hunt deer with dogs did so with beagles that turned the deer toward the hunters who were placed in the woods as standers like in a deer drive.

If you think bird dogs are always under control you should have been on a few hunts that I have been on.

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from hjohn429 wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

I don't really see anything wrong with hunting deer with a dog.

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from huskerguy wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

I don't think that there's anything wrong with it if you use the dogs like teufelhunden said. I've never purposly hunted with dogs, but a farmers lab had followed us in the woods and scared some deer to us. Didnt realize it until after the deer had dropped and the dog came hauling out of the brush after it. I think it might make you a lazy hunter or give you a harder shot. I wouldnt use one cuz I'd be to worried about someone shooting it and I like it when I can sneak up on deer. More satisfying

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from huskerguy wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

I don't think that there's anything wrong with it if you use the dogs like teufelhunden said. I've never purposly hunted with dogs, but a farmers lab had followed us in the woods and scared some deer to us. Didnt realize it until after the deer had dropped and the dog came hauling out of the brush after it. I think it might make you a lazy hunter or give you a harder shot. I wouldnt use one cuz I'd be to worried about someone shooting it and I like it when I can sneak up on deer. More satisfying

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from Del in KS wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

I grew up hunting in Fla swamps with dogs. Never saw anyone drinking. Few deer would ever be shot without dogs to push them out of the swamps and thickets. Its much harder to traverse Southern swamps than the woods to the North.

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from rwk wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

Nothing ethically wrong with hunting deer with dogs, but people will abuse any privilege they are given. Dog hunters get a bad rap because those who are abusing the privilege are typically sitting right there off the road for everyone to see. People commonly violate all manner of ethics in hunting but they're a half mile back in the woods or marsh and nobody knows about it.

Believe it or not... county laws in some states do not prohibit the discharge of a weapon within 100 feet of the centerline of the road. In some counties in NC you can be standing in the middle of a state rd and shoot a deer. Also completely legal in some counties to shoot across the right of way. Not the best policy in my opinion but it is supported by the majority of residents of those counties.

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from bomberpride wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

I agree with Del i see it in the south where you need them to put the meat on your table but not in the rest of the country.

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from DanInArkinsaw wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

1st, I have seen more than one doe come blazing past my stand with her toungue hanging out and a dog right on her tail. Since hunting season conincides with breeding season it is only logical to assume that chasing deer with dogs would hinder breeding. 2nd, dogs don't respect "No Tresspassing" signs or fences. After I go to great lengths to get to my stand undetected it annoys the pee out of me to have a dog spooking the deer I tried so hard to keep from spooking.

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from DanInArkinsaw wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

Got sidetracked and forgot the point of the question. Everyone is hunting pheasant and quail in generally the same manner. No one is trying to sneak up on them. Therefore, the dogs probably don't annoy other hunters that may be nearby and they also don't put undue stress on birds.

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from Christian Emter wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

Because dogs can't go and retreive your deer. It would have a heartattack

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from steve182 wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

It kind of like hunting rabbits with dogs, which is accepted. Birds can fly away though.

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from 007Dom wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

With the birds your dogs can go get them, with a deer how many dogs can drag back a 90 pound deer!

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from Thinking wrote 3 years 7 weeks ago

I've hunted deer with dogs for 20+ years, so obviously I don't have any issues with it when it is done responsibly. I do however take exception with the generalizations of all of us being a bunch of slackers who sit on the edge of the road and drink all day. Running hounds (we prefer Beagles) is a very acceptable way of hunting deer, and personally I find it far better than those of you who hunt over bait or feeders. And to see a 12" Beagle trying to take a 200+lb buck the other way as you drag it out, that is the funniest thing you'll ever see.

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from rudyglove27 wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Agreed with Del in KS answer above and A + 1 for you sir!!!

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from teufelhunden wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

Who said anything about hunting from a road? When did alcohol get involved? everyone I have ever seen hunt deer with dogs did so with beagles that turned the deer toward the hunters who were placed in the woods as standers like in a deer drive.

If you think bird dogs are always under control you should have been on a few hunts that I have been on.

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from Del in KS wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

I grew up hunting in Fla swamps with dogs. Never saw anyone drinking. Few deer would ever be shot without dogs to push them out of the swamps and thickets. Its much harder to traverse Southern swamps than the woods to the North.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

You’re kidding me; you can’t figure that one out! LOL!

The reason I don’t like deer hunted with dogs is plain simple.

How many times have you come around a corner of a road and be looking down someone’s gun barrel waiting for the deer to cross!

By the way, State Laws prohibit the discharge of a weapon within 100 feet of the centerline of the road!!

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from Clay Cooper wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

Hunting quail and pheasant the hunter has the dog under control whereas deer dogs are let loose running any direction they go! In a area closed to hunting deer with dogs, dogs are shot by a few hunters. If you value your dog like I do, don’t run dogs in a closed area!

By the way, I wish I had the cost of Bud being chilled in coolers in those trucks with hunters awaiting deer to cross!

Hunting while intoxicated, shooting from a vehicle, discharging a weapon from a road and reckless endangerment!

GO FIQURE!

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from Clay Cooper wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

Tracking a wounded deer with a dog on a leash I don't have a problem with it, in fact I encourage it even in an area closed to dogs!

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from CPT BRAD wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

I'll agree with Clay on all points. I have seen the situations he is talking about in SE AR, however I do like dogs for hunting and hold it as some of my fondest memories. The key is to get in the woods and hunt. The Game Warden should be called anytime there is a group of drunk hunters. I don't care who you are or where you are unless its at camp and the guns are cased. I don't think its ethical for one vs the other but I think the hunters are UN Ethical that fall under Clays statements above, not the dogs.

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from hjohn429 wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

I don't really see anything wrong with hunting deer with a dog.

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from huskerguy wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

I don't think that there's anything wrong with it if you use the dogs like teufelhunden said. I've never purposly hunted with dogs, but a farmers lab had followed us in the woods and scared some deer to us. Didnt realize it until after the deer had dropped and the dog came hauling out of the brush after it. I think it might make you a lazy hunter or give you a harder shot. I wouldnt use one cuz I'd be to worried about someone shooting it and I like it when I can sneak up on deer. More satisfying

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from huskerguy wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

I don't think that there's anything wrong with it if you use the dogs like teufelhunden said. I've never purposly hunted with dogs, but a farmers lab had followed us in the woods and scared some deer to us. Didnt realize it until after the deer had dropped and the dog came hauling out of the brush after it. I think it might make you a lazy hunter or give you a harder shot. I wouldnt use one cuz I'd be to worried about someone shooting it and I like it when I can sneak up on deer. More satisfying

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from rwk wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

Nothing ethically wrong with hunting deer with dogs, but people will abuse any privilege they are given. Dog hunters get a bad rap because those who are abusing the privilege are typically sitting right there off the road for everyone to see. People commonly violate all manner of ethics in hunting but they're a half mile back in the woods or marsh and nobody knows about it.

Believe it or not... county laws in some states do not prohibit the discharge of a weapon within 100 feet of the centerline of the road. In some counties in NC you can be standing in the middle of a state rd and shoot a deer. Also completely legal in some counties to shoot across the right of way. Not the best policy in my opinion but it is supported by the majority of residents of those counties.

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from bomberpride wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

I agree with Del i see it in the south where you need them to put the meat on your table but not in the rest of the country.

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from DanInArkinsaw wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

1st, I have seen more than one doe come blazing past my stand with her toungue hanging out and a dog right on her tail. Since hunting season conincides with breeding season it is only logical to assume that chasing deer with dogs would hinder breeding. 2nd, dogs don't respect "No Tresspassing" signs or fences. After I go to great lengths to get to my stand undetected it annoys the pee out of me to have a dog spooking the deer I tried so hard to keep from spooking.

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from DanInArkinsaw wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

Got sidetracked and forgot the point of the question. Everyone is hunting pheasant and quail in generally the same manner. No one is trying to sneak up on them. Therefore, the dogs probably don't annoy other hunters that may be nearby and they also don't put undue stress on birds.

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from Christian Emter wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

Because dogs can't go and retreive your deer. It would have a heartattack

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from steve182 wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

It kind of like hunting rabbits with dogs, which is accepted. Birds can fly away though.

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from 007Dom wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

With the birds your dogs can go get them, with a deer how many dogs can drag back a 90 pound deer!

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from Thinking wrote 3 years 7 weeks ago

I've hunted deer with dogs for 20+ years, so obviously I don't have any issues with it when it is done responsibly. I do however take exception with the generalizations of all of us being a bunch of slackers who sit on the edge of the road and drink all day. Running hounds (we prefer Beagles) is a very acceptable way of hunting deer, and personally I find it far better than those of you who hunt over bait or feeders. And to see a 12" Beagle trying to take a 200+lb buck the other way as you drag it out, that is the funniest thing you'll ever see.

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from rudyglove27 wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Agreed with Del in KS answer above and A + 1 for you sir!!!

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