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What do you think of our great president's idea of opening up the U.S. border?

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from Clay Cooper wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

America, Canada , all Europe .....need a President like this

Prime Minister John Howard Australia:Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.

Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques.

Quote: 'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians'.

'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom'. 'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!'

'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.'
'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.'

'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom,
'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.'

'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.'
Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves, American citizens will find the backbone to start speaking and voicing the
same truths.

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from Beekeeper wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

If the border isn't already open we must have very large leak somewhere!

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from steve182 wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

What, Like an Open Season?

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from Clay Cooper wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

America has immigration problems and they have false Social Security Numbers whereas

Mexico has gun problems and they have no Serial Numbers!

Mexico wants open borders, supplies condoms and complains about guns coming in!

Can’t have it both ways, besides, the guns and explosives they say can be found in isle 5 at Wal-Mart.

The fact of the matter is, they are coming in from South America, overseas and from their own Mexican Government!

Put the troops on the Border and be done with it!!!
Mexico cleanup your own house you pig!

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from rezavoirdog wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

WTF?! Increase in crime, drugs, teenage pregnancy, government hand-outs! ARRHHHHGGGG!

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from rrmont wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

They HAVE been open. We sure in the hell aren't sending any of them back, like we should be!

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from teufelhunden wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

I guess I have not heard of this plan. I did read that we were going to kill the vegetation along the Rio Grande to eliminate cover for those crossing illegally. Opening up the border? Hard to get anymore open than we already are.

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from Nick Jensen wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

I am the decedent of immigrants as I am sure many (if not all) of you are. I feel that if we want to be the land of the free and home of opportunity we should welcome those who want to come here to build a better life for themselves. I have no doubt I will now be called a bleeding heart liberal and be told that I am what's wrong with this country, so be it. I will stand up for what I believe even if it makes me horribly unpopular, I know I am in the minority on this one but I see no benefit in preaching to the choir.

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from rezavoirdog wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

You know what, my ancestors weren't immigrants. I am a Native American! Even so, I think that the Native Americans are totally under-represented in this issue!

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from KMB33 wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

I think that if he lets them in freely they should be taking his job not ours, and living in his house, not ours.

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from s-kfry wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

Golfing Sportsman,

We are a nation of laws. I have no problem inviting in those immigrants who want to be law abiding, who want to work hard, and who want to contribute to our society. But if an immigrant's first action is to break the law to get into the country we have a problem.

You can argue about how we got here (as a nation) and there certainly is some justification in the idea that we trampled some people doing it (Native Americans in particular) and that may need to be addressed (don’t want to get off topic) but in the end we are the United States of America, NOT the United States of North and Central America. Opening our borders will severely dilute us as a nation (no, I am not talking racially), erode our values (which are significantly different than our neighbors both to the north and the south) and our freedoms. Open the border and you are going to get as many criminals (hard core ones, not just illegal border crossing types) as honest people with the result that crime will sky rocket and our government will use that as an excuse to take more control and restrict further our constitutional rights.

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from buckhunter wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

He's all for it because they'll all vote democrat when they have a chance.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

Rezavoirdog
There is a difference between your status and the illegal immigration issue as it gets. For you to toss your issue in this is wrong, dead wrong! Why do I say that? The illegal immigration issue is a Mexican Government sponsored program and those that come here send their money back to Mexico beefing up their economy.

How this issue that relates to you truly is the illegal immigration is taking over what belongs to you and sucking the air out of the system, your system! All due respect Sir and no pun intended if I was you I’d be getting the “CLAN” together, be on the “WAR PATH”, “RAISING HELL” and “DECLARING WAR”!

Rezavoirdog, you say and I know this is your land, no question about it!

My question to you Sir, are you going to set there in your recliner or get active like I have?!?

Sir and the group, I may not be a Native American like Rezavoirdog but I didn’t spend 20 years in the Military for nothing!

Am I mad as hell?

YOU BET!

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from Clay Cooper wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

buckhunter
It’s sad to know that the minorities are suckered into this every time and might as well be promised swamp land on the moon!

“Fifty-one percent of a nation can establish a totalitarian regime, suppress minorities and still remain democratic.”
-Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn

“...I would like to be clearly understood...we, the Soviet people, are for socialism.... We want more socialism and, therefore, more democracy.”
-Mikhail Gorbachev, Perestroika - New Thinking for Our Country and the World, 1988

“More socialism means more democracy, openness and collectivism in everyday life [...]”
-Mikhail Gorbachev, Perestroika - New Thinking for Our Country and the World, 1988

“The merit of our Constitution was, not that it promotes democracy, but checks it.”
-Horatio Seymour

“Such democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.”
-James Madison, Federalist #10

“The voice of the people has been said to be the voice of God; and, however generally this maxim has been quoted and believed, it is not true to fact. The people are turbulent and changing, they seldom judge or determine right.”
-Alexander Hamilton

“Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting to decide what's for lunch.”
-Marshall Fritz

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from Clay Cooper wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears he is a protector.”
-Plato, circa 400 BC

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from Clay Cooper wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

“The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a bit longer.”
-Henry Kissinger

“We the People are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.”
-Abraham Lincoln

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from Nick Jensen wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

Look guys I can only speak from personal experience. Being in the industry I am in I work with a lot of Hispanic seasonal workers. They are an integral part of our crew. They work hard, are very talented and I would rather have a crew of Hispanics than the highschool and college jerk offs we would be stuck with otherwise. The local kids we hire come in hungover, smoke pot AT WORK, and rarely come in on time. The Hispanic members of our crew are grateful for their jobs even though they get paid very little and receive no benefits. I just don't see Latin immigrants causing all the problems everybody says they do. They work the crap jobs that nobody else wants and they do it for peanuts.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

Golfing Sportsman
Interesting thing about the Hispanics, they do pay their bills!

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from DanInArkinsaw wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

I think that America was founded by imigrants. I think that our borders should be open to anyone who is willing to learn English and go through the proper legal steps to citizenship. In other words, send 'em back if they try to sneak in. Send 'em back if we catch them here illegally and welcome those who come in the proper way.

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from rezavoirdog wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

Clay Cooper: I ment to say anything to offend anybody. What I meant was that the reservations in the U.S.A. have become sancturaries for illegal Mexican immigrants that are also meth and heroin dealers. My ancestors fought and died to bring our people to this land and surrendered to the U.S. Calvary so that we may keep what little land for our Tribe. I happened to be a LCDR in the Uniformed Services, and have many cousins, and uncles that have served in the Marines, Navy and Army as enlisted soldiers. If you look at the statistics, Native Americans have the highest number of military enlistees per capita. I love my country...

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from rezavoirdog wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

Oops, Clay Cooper: I did not mean to say anything to offend anybody...

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from buckhunter wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

I'm gonna second Golfing Sportsman post for the most part. There are a lot of immigrants here to better themselves for all the right reasons.

To help explain my earlier post is that there is too much government aid given to immigrants. Democrats are traditionally champions of the poor and like to spend money by giving it directly to the people in need or in this case immigrants. . Call me crazy but I'm a big fan of working for your money.

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from dwaynez wrote 5 years 3 weeks ago

I was raised with the understanding that if you want something you have to work for it.

I am all for people having an opportunity to better themselves and become citizens of the united states, some do it the right way, while others take advantage of the system and use the benefits and opportunities they are given to get a free education and then they leave.

I am all for people making a better life for themselves, but I am not for people using loopholes to benefit themselves, while not taking responsibility for their actions and using their status as a way of getting out of situations that a citizen of the united states would have to answer for and be accountable for.

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from lovetohunt wrote 5 years 3 weeks ago

Dumbest thing I ever heard. If I was Obama I would have border patrol shoot ALL people crossing the boarder illegaly.

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from Kkeltic wrote 5 years 3 weeks ago

There's a difference between immigrating and going through all the citizenship steps and committing a felony by illegal entering the country. Then billions of dollars get sucked out of the economy and sent to another country.
I'm all for people bettering themselves, but they need to go about it the right way and their home countries need to step up there games.
Clay's right about the Mexican government. They even printed and distributed booklets on where to cross illegally, water sources and pointed out sanctuary cities like SF!

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from muskiemaster wrote 5 years 3 weeks ago

If we tightened our border patrol and all made these illegal aliens who can't take the time to fill out some paper work take a test and sing the star spangled banner should not be allowed into a country like ours, and who cares what the human rights people think. PETA'S latest thing is that they want the canada to stop taking fur off seals to make coats. so i say let 'em have it keep these lazy people off american soil.

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from can-houndhunter wrote 5 years 3 weeks ago

muskiemaster, not sure what you are impying regarding to the seal hunts?

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from gowildgo wrote 5 years 3 weeks ago

I think its sad that we feel the need to help EVERYONE! Why do we have this need to give handouts to everyone who doesn't deserve them, who hasn't worked for them? We have way too many good hard working american's out of jobs because of too many lazy immigrants taking our jobs, driving down our wages and using our government to their advantage! close the borders and fix the problems before anyone else comes in!

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from 60256 wrote 5 years 3 weeks ago

the whole letting them in and giving them rights is the worst thing that can come out of illegal immigrants. I'll be short. GET OUT

Nate

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from j-johnson17 wrote 5 years 3 weeks ago

Come to our country LEGALLY, learn OUR LANGUAGE, or get out and don't come back. Unreasonable?

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from jeepdip1 wrote 5 years 3 weeks ago

Let's just stop all immigration legal or illegal.

We do not need any more people in this country, just look at how much land has been lost to hunting & fishing, because of overpopulation and development

Nobody benifits from overcrowded cities or overcrowded
rual area's

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from fawnBleat wrote 5 years 3 weeks ago

I dont have a problem with legal imigration but no borders thats going way to far! the only way im ok with immigrants is if the didnt jump the border, they can speak english, they've got the papers and what not. it pisses me off when i got to apply for a job and findout that an illigal that no hables english and they are making less than minimum wage thats where my fuse gets short. if it were up to my i'd have snipers and landmines and razor wire the whole nine yards along the border, but for some people i guess thats a good thing.

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from Fisher Boy wrote 5 years 3 weeks ago

with the borders the way they are today, not as open, but there is a leak in the dam between America and Mexico enough that many have lost their jobs to illegals, so why not m. president, take away some more American citizens jobs

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from silsbyj wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

Shut the borders up tighter than a nuns skirt I say. Then build a few gigantic factories on the border and put up housing and schools. They can come in as long as they work in the factory for 2 years for 8 hours a day and go to school for 4 hours a day. All classes will be taught in English. All profit from the factory will go toward paying for the housing and the school. Anyone trying to cross the border in another manor will be shot on sight...no questions asked.

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from elkslayer wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

Why doesn't Obama just tell the mexican government to make their own country better so that people actually want to live there; rather than telling Americans to allow ourselves to be overrun and assimilate to foreign cultures?

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from Dan the Man wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

He's an idiot, but I'm sure we all knew that already.

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from Fisher Boy wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

as long as they don't jump the fence, learn and speak our language, and pay their on dang taxes they can come, but we don't need open borders to have that accomplished

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from peter wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

u gotta be kiding me. THIS IDIOT IS GONNA RUIN OUR COUNTRY. i woukldnt care if they learned our language paid taxes and came legally. why dont we just take terrists from the middle east to our country on a privaryte plane and arm him with some bombs and a flight lesson and make spanish the offical languge.

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from Scottdamott wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

The way to get rid of the illegal immigrant problem is to get rid of the incentives, when they cross the border and get hurt they can go to any hospital and get healthcare on anothers dime (ER's cannot turn them down, and since the illegal isn't goin to foot the bill the rest of the citizens will have to.) and we must get rid of the natural born citizen clause, therefore there wouldn't be the incentive to come over here and procreate for citizenship.
As to the arguement of all the illegals coming up here earning money in a legetimate (or illegetimate) way, and sending thier fruits of thier labor back hom and out of economy, is only helping us. By them taking money out of our system is only counteracting the inflation we would feel from our Federal Reserve fiat money system. Inflation is caused by an increase in the money supply (i.e. counterfieting money) which the Fed has done a tremendous amount of lately.
As for illegals not paying taxes, I'm glad they don't for all practical purposes that an income tax is a very evil and a form of slavery, the taking by force the fruits of one's labor is criminal, if I was to go up to any of you and hold a gun to you and say give me $200 so this homeless man can get a room for a week, would be stealing, no matter how good my intentions are with the money I still imposed on your property rights. Plus it would help get us smaller Govt. which is what we need.
Also if we just listened to the Constitution and and the 9th and 10th Amendments, then this would be a States Rights issue, and so if Texas or Arizona are having people cross thier borders and come into thier States then they could sove this problem with thier (the state) money, which would allow things to get done faster, instead of letting some fedral beaurocrats (remember FEMA) (mis)handle the situation.

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from rabbitpolice88 wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

What is the use of calling our country the United States of America if there are no borders? In the first place I can not believe that Americans are so blind as to let the Congress get away with not enforcing the border laws. We have no one to blame but ourselves on this one. If people would call the congress men and representatives and tell them to close the borders and kick out the illegals you can bet they would wake up. Americans are not outraged enough to do anything about it. We have been caught up in apathy and self centeredness. What is it going to take to get our attention? What is it going to take to get us so worked up we are willing to get off the couch and do something about it? You would think that 9/11 would have been that wake up call but i seldom see the shirts and bumper stickers saying " we have not forgotten" any more. Right after 9/11 America was on fire, we were united and nothing was going to get in our way. What happened? We have lost the fire, we have lost the motivation, we have lost our sense of duty and patriotism. Something so drastic is going to have to happen to shake us out of our perfect little worlds that I shudder to think of what that might be. I am completely against the borders being opened. I am an American, they are mexicans. We are not a bunch of people on a continent sharing the land. We have our country they have theirs. The general thought going around that we should be more tolerant of people who come here illegally and take our jobs and take advantage of our government, schools and economy and then we are just supposed to look the other way and say "oh well" is outrageous in the extreme. Obama is the most pathetic excuse of an American I have ever seen. He is a lilly livered spineless coward. Who thinks that there is nothing special about this country and it's people. I could go on and on here but I am getting hot under the collar, so I am going to leave it at that. God help us as a nation.

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from HillbillyDeluxe wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

Clay Cooper for prsident

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from Scottdamott wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

Nate,

The Govt. does not give a individual its Rights, Rights are givin to you by you being a human, whether you believe its God or Nature that gave you these Rights, we gave the power to the Govt. to PROTECT our Rights. Nowhere in the Constitution/Bill of Rights does it say anything about "citizens" (except of course the natural born clause written into the 14th, but that has nothing to do with Amendments 1-10, this of course came after the Civil War 1868((I think was the year)). Just because an individual's country of origin doesn't accept Natural LAw and Rights doesn't mean our Govt. can deny Individuals of thier basic Rights as humans first, not subjects of a particular State(Govt.) Yall talk about the Law being the Rule of the Land, but forget that the Constitution IS the Law of the Land and that our so called leaders ignore this LEGAL document almost on a daily basis!!!!

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from hunterkid94 wrote 4 years 44 weeks ago

lets all take some time and look at the gun trade, drug trade and violence in most of mexico. the 'leak' has let them in and now we have on of the most violent gangs in the u.s. (MS-13) so if we completly open in up they r guna hav to make a ms14, 15, etc! Plus hardworking americans are getting laid off but they can be hired with no worries so we loose jobs. yes they work hard but hurt america. i just dont think they sould open the border.

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from rudyglove27 wrote 4 years 40 weeks ago

"Even so, I think that the Native Americans are totally under-represented in this issue (rezavoirdog)".........
Everybody here is once consider to be an immigrant except the "Indians"........
America is a melting pot........

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from brw7979 wrote 4 years 39 weeks ago

I live in south central Texas. And there are alot of border jumpers here in this area. I believe we need to go ahead with the wall that was being built. There's alot of legal Americans out here that need a job but can't find one because of illegals that are taking them. Then on top of that there are some illegals that are coming over here pregnat and having there childern here and with no money or insureance, us the honest working person is having to pay for them to have kids and then the kid is an american citizen.
Its been about ten years ago or so but my family had a deer lease in south Texas and we had our hunting trailer down there. We set it up so we wouldnt need anything once we got to the lease and could just stay there and enjoy hunting. Not a month after we set it up it was destroyed. Illegals were crossing through our lease and useing it for there own. So if that goes to show you how there going to treat things imagine how it will be once there allowed here with no problems.
I understand that there trying to come here to better themselves and familys but at the same time its hurting us. So do I think it should be ok to open the borders. NO.
But if they want to get a work pass and work, pay taxes, and live here legaly that would be fine. Just I'm tired of seeing people here that think they should get a handout.

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from jsobrien wrote 4 years 37 weeks ago

This is a false statment.

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from Derrit wrote 4 years 26 weeks ago

stupid

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from Jere Smith wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

You DON'T want to know what I think, and neither do I want you to know.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

America, Canada , all Europe .....need a President like this

Prime Minister John Howard Australia:Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.

Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques.

Quote: 'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians'.

'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom'. 'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!'

'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.'
'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.'

'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom,
'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.'

'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.'
Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves, American citizens will find the backbone to start speaking and voicing the
same truths.

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from rezavoirdog wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

You know what, my ancestors weren't immigrants. I am a Native American! Even so, I think that the Native Americans are totally under-represented in this issue!

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from j-johnson17 wrote 5 years 3 weeks ago

Come to our country LEGALLY, learn OUR LANGUAGE, or get out and don't come back. Unreasonable?

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from Beekeeper wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

If the border isn't already open we must have very large leak somewhere!

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from s-kfry wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

Golfing Sportsman,

We are a nation of laws. I have no problem inviting in those immigrants who want to be law abiding, who want to work hard, and who want to contribute to our society. But if an immigrant's first action is to break the law to get into the country we have a problem.

You can argue about how we got here (as a nation) and there certainly is some justification in the idea that we trampled some people doing it (Native Americans in particular) and that may need to be addressed (don’t want to get off topic) but in the end we are the United States of America, NOT the United States of North and Central America. Opening our borders will severely dilute us as a nation (no, I am not talking racially), erode our values (which are significantly different than our neighbors both to the north and the south) and our freedoms. Open the border and you are going to get as many criminals (hard core ones, not just illegal border crossing types) as honest people with the result that crime will sky rocket and our government will use that as an excuse to take more control and restrict further our constitutional rights.

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from buckhunter wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

He's all for it because they'll all vote democrat when they have a chance.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

America has immigration problems and they have false Social Security Numbers whereas

Mexico has gun problems and they have no Serial Numbers!

Mexico wants open borders, supplies condoms and complains about guns coming in!

Can’t have it both ways, besides, the guns and explosives they say can be found in isle 5 at Wal-Mart.

The fact of the matter is, they are coming in from South America, overseas and from their own Mexican Government!

Put the troops on the Border and be done with it!!!
Mexico cleanup your own house you pig!

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from rezavoirdog wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

WTF?! Increase in crime, drugs, teenage pregnancy, government hand-outs! ARRHHHHGGGG!

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from rrmont wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

They HAVE been open. We sure in the hell aren't sending any of them back, like we should be!

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from Nick Jensen wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

I am the decedent of immigrants as I am sure many (if not all) of you are. I feel that if we want to be the land of the free and home of opportunity we should welcome those who want to come here to build a better life for themselves. I have no doubt I will now be called a bleeding heart liberal and be told that I am what's wrong with this country, so be it. I will stand up for what I believe even if it makes me horribly unpopular, I know I am in the minority on this one but I see no benefit in preaching to the choir.

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from KMB33 wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

I think that if he lets them in freely they should be taking his job not ours, and living in his house, not ours.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

“The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a bit longer.”
-Henry Kissinger

“We the People are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.”
-Abraham Lincoln

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from DanInArkinsaw wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

I think that America was founded by imigrants. I think that our borders should be open to anyone who is willing to learn English and go through the proper legal steps to citizenship. In other words, send 'em back if they try to sneak in. Send 'em back if we catch them here illegally and welcome those who come in the proper way.

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from rezavoirdog wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

Clay Cooper: I ment to say anything to offend anybody. What I meant was that the reservations in the U.S.A. have become sancturaries for illegal Mexican immigrants that are also meth and heroin dealers. My ancestors fought and died to bring our people to this land and surrendered to the U.S. Calvary so that we may keep what little land for our Tribe. I happened to be a LCDR in the Uniformed Services, and have many cousins, and uncles that have served in the Marines, Navy and Army as enlisted soldiers. If you look at the statistics, Native Americans have the highest number of military enlistees per capita. I love my country...

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from muskiemaster wrote 5 years 3 weeks ago

If we tightened our border patrol and all made these illegal aliens who can't take the time to fill out some paper work take a test and sing the star spangled banner should not be allowed into a country like ours, and who cares what the human rights people think. PETA'S latest thing is that they want the canada to stop taking fur off seals to make coats. so i say let 'em have it keep these lazy people off american soil.

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from Fisher Boy wrote 5 years 3 weeks ago

with the borders the way they are today, not as open, but there is a leak in the dam between America and Mexico enough that many have lost their jobs to illegals, so why not m. president, take away some more American citizens jobs

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from silsbyj wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

Shut the borders up tighter than a nuns skirt I say. Then build a few gigantic factories on the border and put up housing and schools. They can come in as long as they work in the factory for 2 years for 8 hours a day and go to school for 4 hours a day. All classes will be taught in English. All profit from the factory will go toward paying for the housing and the school. Anyone trying to cross the border in another manor will be shot on sight...no questions asked.

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from elkslayer wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

Why doesn't Obama just tell the mexican government to make their own country better so that people actually want to live there; rather than telling Americans to allow ourselves to be overrun and assimilate to foreign cultures?

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from brw7979 wrote 4 years 39 weeks ago

I live in south central Texas. And there are alot of border jumpers here in this area. I believe we need to go ahead with the wall that was being built. There's alot of legal Americans out here that need a job but can't find one because of illegals that are taking them. Then on top of that there are some illegals that are coming over here pregnat and having there childern here and with no money or insureance, us the honest working person is having to pay for them to have kids and then the kid is an american citizen.
Its been about ten years ago or so but my family had a deer lease in south Texas and we had our hunting trailer down there. We set it up so we wouldnt need anything once we got to the lease and could just stay there and enjoy hunting. Not a month after we set it up it was destroyed. Illegals were crossing through our lease and useing it for there own. So if that goes to show you how there going to treat things imagine how it will be once there allowed here with no problems.
I understand that there trying to come here to better themselves and familys but at the same time its hurting us. So do I think it should be ok to open the borders. NO.
But if they want to get a work pass and work, pay taxes, and live here legaly that would be fine. Just I'm tired of seeing people here that think they should get a handout.

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from Derrit wrote 4 years 26 weeks ago

stupid

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from steve182 wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

What, Like an Open Season?

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from teufelhunden wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

I guess I have not heard of this plan. I did read that we were going to kill the vegetation along the Rio Grande to eliminate cover for those crossing illegally. Opening up the border? Hard to get anymore open than we already are.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

Rezavoirdog
There is a difference between your status and the illegal immigration issue as it gets. For you to toss your issue in this is wrong, dead wrong! Why do I say that? The illegal immigration issue is a Mexican Government sponsored program and those that come here send their money back to Mexico beefing up their economy.

How this issue that relates to you truly is the illegal immigration is taking over what belongs to you and sucking the air out of the system, your system! All due respect Sir and no pun intended if I was you I’d be getting the “CLAN” together, be on the “WAR PATH”, “RAISING HELL” and “DECLARING WAR”!

Rezavoirdog, you say and I know this is your land, no question about it!

My question to you Sir, are you going to set there in your recliner or get active like I have?!?

Sir and the group, I may not be a Native American like Rezavoirdog but I didn’t spend 20 years in the Military for nothing!

Am I mad as hell?

YOU BET!

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from Clay Cooper wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

buckhunter
It’s sad to know that the minorities are suckered into this every time and might as well be promised swamp land on the moon!

“Fifty-one percent of a nation can establish a totalitarian regime, suppress minorities and still remain democratic.”
-Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn

“...I would like to be clearly understood...we, the Soviet people, are for socialism.... We want more socialism and, therefore, more democracy.”
-Mikhail Gorbachev, Perestroika - New Thinking for Our Country and the World, 1988

“More socialism means more democracy, openness and collectivism in everyday life [...]”
-Mikhail Gorbachev, Perestroika - New Thinking for Our Country and the World, 1988

“The merit of our Constitution was, not that it promotes democracy, but checks it.”
-Horatio Seymour

“Such democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.”
-James Madison, Federalist #10

“The voice of the people has been said to be the voice of God; and, however generally this maxim has been quoted and believed, it is not true to fact. The people are turbulent and changing, they seldom judge or determine right.”
-Alexander Hamilton

“Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting to decide what's for lunch.”
-Marshall Fritz

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from Clay Cooper wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears he is a protector.”
-Plato, circa 400 BC

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from Nick Jensen wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

Look guys I can only speak from personal experience. Being in the industry I am in I work with a lot of Hispanic seasonal workers. They are an integral part of our crew. They work hard, are very talented and I would rather have a crew of Hispanics than the highschool and college jerk offs we would be stuck with otherwise. The local kids we hire come in hungover, smoke pot AT WORK, and rarely come in on time. The Hispanic members of our crew are grateful for their jobs even though they get paid very little and receive no benefits. I just don't see Latin immigrants causing all the problems everybody says they do. They work the crap jobs that nobody else wants and they do it for peanuts.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

Golfing Sportsman
Interesting thing about the Hispanics, they do pay their bills!

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from rezavoirdog wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

Oops, Clay Cooper: I did not mean to say anything to offend anybody...

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from buckhunter wrote 5 years 4 weeks ago

I'm gonna second Golfing Sportsman post for the most part. There are a lot of immigrants here to better themselves for all the right reasons.

To help explain my earlier post is that there is too much government aid given to immigrants. Democrats are traditionally champions of the poor and like to spend money by giving it directly to the people in need or in this case immigrants. . Call me crazy but I'm a big fan of working for your money.

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from dwaynez wrote 5 years 3 weeks ago

I was raised with the understanding that if you want something you have to work for it.

I am all for people having an opportunity to better themselves and become citizens of the united states, some do it the right way, while others take advantage of the system and use the benefits and opportunities they are given to get a free education and then they leave.

I am all for people making a better life for themselves, but I am not for people using loopholes to benefit themselves, while not taking responsibility for their actions and using their status as a way of getting out of situations that a citizen of the united states would have to answer for and be accountable for.

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from Kkeltic wrote 5 years 3 weeks ago

There's a difference between immigrating and going through all the citizenship steps and committing a felony by illegal entering the country. Then billions of dollars get sucked out of the economy and sent to another country.
I'm all for people bettering themselves, but they need to go about it the right way and their home countries need to step up there games.
Clay's right about the Mexican government. They even printed and distributed booklets on where to cross illegally, water sources and pointed out sanctuary cities like SF!

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from can-houndhunter wrote 5 years 3 weeks ago

muskiemaster, not sure what you are impying regarding to the seal hunts?

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from gowildgo wrote 5 years 3 weeks ago

I think its sad that we feel the need to help EVERYONE! Why do we have this need to give handouts to everyone who doesn't deserve them, who hasn't worked for them? We have way too many good hard working american's out of jobs because of too many lazy immigrants taking our jobs, driving down our wages and using our government to their advantage! close the borders and fix the problems before anyone else comes in!

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from 60256 wrote 5 years 3 weeks ago

the whole letting them in and giving them rights is the worst thing that can come out of illegal immigrants. I'll be short. GET OUT

Nate

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from jeepdip1 wrote 5 years 3 weeks ago

Let's just stop all immigration legal or illegal.

We do not need any more people in this country, just look at how much land has been lost to hunting & fishing, because of overpopulation and development

Nobody benifits from overcrowded cities or overcrowded
rual area's

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from Dan the Man wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

He's an idiot, but I'm sure we all knew that already.

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from Fisher Boy wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

as long as they don't jump the fence, learn and speak our language, and pay their on dang taxes they can come, but we don't need open borders to have that accomplished

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from Scottdamott wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

The way to get rid of the illegal immigrant problem is to get rid of the incentives, when they cross the border and get hurt they can go to any hospital and get healthcare on anothers dime (ER's cannot turn them down, and since the illegal isn't goin to foot the bill the rest of the citizens will have to.) and we must get rid of the natural born citizen clause, therefore there wouldn't be the incentive to come over here and procreate for citizenship.
As to the arguement of all the illegals coming up here earning money in a legetimate (or illegetimate) way, and sending thier fruits of thier labor back hom and out of economy, is only helping us. By them taking money out of our system is only counteracting the inflation we would feel from our Federal Reserve fiat money system. Inflation is caused by an increase in the money supply (i.e. counterfieting money) which the Fed has done a tremendous amount of lately.
As for illegals not paying taxes, I'm glad they don't for all practical purposes that an income tax is a very evil and a form of slavery, the taking by force the fruits of one's labor is criminal, if I was to go up to any of you and hold a gun to you and say give me $200 so this homeless man can get a room for a week, would be stealing, no matter how good my intentions are with the money I still imposed on your property rights. Plus it would help get us smaller Govt. which is what we need.
Also if we just listened to the Constitution and and the 9th and 10th Amendments, then this would be a States Rights issue, and so if Texas or Arizona are having people cross thier borders and come into thier States then they could sove this problem with thier (the state) money, which would allow things to get done faster, instead of letting some fedral beaurocrats (remember FEMA) (mis)handle the situation.

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from rabbitpolice88 wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

What is the use of calling our country the United States of America if there are no borders? In the first place I can not believe that Americans are so blind as to let the Congress get away with not enforcing the border laws. We have no one to blame but ourselves on this one. If people would call the congress men and representatives and tell them to close the borders and kick out the illegals you can bet they would wake up. Americans are not outraged enough to do anything about it. We have been caught up in apathy and self centeredness. What is it going to take to get our attention? What is it going to take to get us so worked up we are willing to get off the couch and do something about it? You would think that 9/11 would have been that wake up call but i seldom see the shirts and bumper stickers saying " we have not forgotten" any more. Right after 9/11 America was on fire, we were united and nothing was going to get in our way. What happened? We have lost the fire, we have lost the motivation, we have lost our sense of duty and patriotism. Something so drastic is going to have to happen to shake us out of our perfect little worlds that I shudder to think of what that might be. I am completely against the borders being opened. I am an American, they are mexicans. We are not a bunch of people on a continent sharing the land. We have our country they have theirs. The general thought going around that we should be more tolerant of people who come here illegally and take our jobs and take advantage of our government, schools and economy and then we are just supposed to look the other way and say "oh well" is outrageous in the extreme. Obama is the most pathetic excuse of an American I have ever seen. He is a lilly livered spineless coward. Who thinks that there is nothing special about this country and it's people. I could go on and on here but I am getting hot under the collar, so I am going to leave it at that. God help us as a nation.

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from HillbillyDeluxe wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

Clay Cooper for prsident

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from Scottdamott wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

Nate,

The Govt. does not give a individual its Rights, Rights are givin to you by you being a human, whether you believe its God or Nature that gave you these Rights, we gave the power to the Govt. to PROTECT our Rights. Nowhere in the Constitution/Bill of Rights does it say anything about "citizens" (except of course the natural born clause written into the 14th, but that has nothing to do with Amendments 1-10, this of course came after the Civil War 1868((I think was the year)). Just because an individual's country of origin doesn't accept Natural LAw and Rights doesn't mean our Govt. can deny Individuals of thier basic Rights as humans first, not subjects of a particular State(Govt.) Yall talk about the Law being the Rule of the Land, but forget that the Constitution IS the Law of the Land and that our so called leaders ignore this LEGAL document almost on a daily basis!!!!

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from hunterkid94 wrote 4 years 44 weeks ago

lets all take some time and look at the gun trade, drug trade and violence in most of mexico. the 'leak' has let them in and now we have on of the most violent gangs in the u.s. (MS-13) so if we completly open in up they r guna hav to make a ms14, 15, etc! Plus hardworking americans are getting laid off but they can be hired with no worries so we loose jobs. yes they work hard but hurt america. i just dont think they sould open the border.

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from rudyglove27 wrote 4 years 40 weeks ago

"Even so, I think that the Native Americans are totally under-represented in this issue (rezavoirdog)".........
Everybody here is once consider to be an immigrant except the "Indians"........
America is a melting pot........

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from Jere Smith wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

You DON'T want to know what I think, and neither do I want you to know.

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from lovetohunt wrote 5 years 3 weeks ago

Dumbest thing I ever heard. If I was Obama I would have border patrol shoot ALL people crossing the boarder illegaly.

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from fawnBleat wrote 5 years 3 weeks ago

I dont have a problem with legal imigration but no borders thats going way to far! the only way im ok with immigrants is if the didnt jump the border, they can speak english, they've got the papers and what not. it pisses me off when i got to apply for a job and findout that an illigal that no hables english and they are making less than minimum wage thats where my fuse gets short. if it were up to my i'd have snipers and landmines and razor wire the whole nine yards along the border, but for some people i guess thats a good thing.

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from peter wrote 5 years 2 weeks ago

u gotta be kiding me. THIS IDIOT IS GONNA RUIN OUR COUNTRY. i woukldnt care if they learned our language paid taxes and came legally. why dont we just take terrists from the middle east to our country on a privaryte plane and arm him with some bombs and a flight lesson and make spanish the offical languge.

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from jsobrien wrote 4 years 37 weeks ago

This is a false statment.

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