
Small trout streams like this Pennsylvania creek could be the source for millions of gallons of water needed for drilling.
Western sportsmen have been dealing with the ramifications of natural gas extraction for years, but now Eastern sportsmen need to brace for impact. Widespread gas drilling is hitting Appalachia, and unless environmental regulations and enforcement catch up with the drilling, there could be major damage to world-class trout water, from small mountain streams to the Delaware River.
Gas and Cash The gas lies in what is called the Marcellus Shale Formation, a 600-mile sheet of sedimentary rock (see sidebar). Until recently, extraction wasn’t cost effective, but advances in technology and higher gas prices have made it lucrative. Extremely lucrative. Gas companies have been offering landowners as much as $2,500 an acre just for lease rights; royalties are paid on top of that, and sums can be huge. Suddenly a small farmer or modest hunting club might be looking at a million-dollar windfall. The states are also leasing public hunting land, licking their chops at the prospect of an industry that could fill coffers and balance budgets for decades.
There is no stopping Marcellus shale drilling. There is too much money to be made. But it has exploded so suddenly that state natural resource departments have been caught flat-footed and are struggling to get adequate regulations and compliance staff in place.
Water and Trout In a process called hydro-fracturing, first, a well is drilled thousands of feet down and, by way of directional drilling technology, turned horizontal. The gas is released when the shale is “fracked,” basically broken up by a mixture of water, sand, and chemicals that is forced down the well. As much as 3 million to 9 million gallons of water are used per well. A well may need to be fracked a few times during its life.
Where this fracking water comes from is one of the major threats to fisheries. Trucking water in is expensive; it’s cheaper to run a fire hose to a local source. Because well sites are often in undeveloped highlands, these sources are often small trout streams. Regulations for drawing water vary among the states, and there are questions about how well current regulations protect waterways. There is also a question of enforcement. Four gas companies have already been caught withdrawing water from Pennsylvania trout streams without permission.
After the fracking mixture does its job, it is pumped out and must be disposed of. It contains toxic chemicals such as arsenic and hydrogen sulfide. Before being discharged, it must be trucked away to a plant for treatment.
Roads and Runoff Another concern is the secondary impact, like runoff and habitat fragmentation, caused by this development. Each well pad (think of a cleared gravel parking lot) is usually around 5 acres, and each pad needs an unpaved road and a pipeline. Multiply that by tens of thousands of wells and add the fact that wells can produce for 30 years or more.
“Even if everything is done right,” says Steve Kepler, fisheries biologist with the Pennsylvania Fish and Boat Commission, “if all the water withdrawals comply with regulations and all other protections are in place, the impact is still going to be huge. These places just aren’t going to be the same anymore.”
On a recent tour of active drill sites on Pennsylvania state forest land in Lycoming County, I got a glimpse of what the future may look like in the region. I saw flocks of turkeys and ancient hemlock groves and small coldwater streams. But the whole area was laced with pipelines and roads, and it seemed as though we were never far from the hum of a compressor moving gas through the line. This was no longer a working forest that balanced resource management and recreation. It was an industrial forest, a kind of open-air factory, and it’s a sign of things to come. Eastern sportsmen need to speak up now to make sure some of our last remaining wild places stay that way.
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people tried to do that to a hunting club uth lnd my dad bellongs to and my cousins and their neighbors houses hbut they didnt do it cause they heard it could posion peopls waters
I fish many streams all over PA. The reason we are drilling for small natural gas deposits is because global warming alarmist and eco-fools don't want to drill anywhere useful, build nuke plants, or do anything to develop our own natural resources. The "not in my back yard" crowd should have their power turned off.
As mentioned,that area will never be the same.
Coal company's have been taking mountain tops off in this part of Appalachia,Kentucky, for years ... it ain't a pretty picture.
The land looks as if machinery raped Mother Earth, and basically just left her,until local politicians started barking. Now it looks like a beautiful mountain, with the top cut off ... with a few elk on it and grass.
I'm afraid the concerns of World-Class trout will be last in line and get the most "fracking!"
It's all 'bout the Benjamins!
There are many trout streams in Pa. already polluted by stripmine run-off. It ain't pretty. This "fracking" practice seems destructive on multiple levels. I hate to think what it'll be be like after a couple decades of this.
Divide and conquer. The polluting industries must be loving this. A lot more habitat will be saved and less pollution will occur when people who care about the environment stand together. I believe the Blue/Green alliance between the Sierra Club and the United Autoworkers Union shows a way forward.
I am not even close to being a tree hugger. However, we need to preserve our environment. We should allow SOME drilling, but it should happen on a much smaller scale. Maybe allow 1 well to be drilled per every 1,000 acres or more. After the well has stopped producing, the gas company should be required to return the well site to its previous condition, removing any signs of the well ever being there. However, our politicians will never be able to agree on anything. For the politicians it will be either black or white, either we drill or we don't drill. But as someone already said, it's all about the benjamins...
My hunting/fishing cabin is about 2 miles south of NY state. Gas companies approached every landowner within like a 35 mile radius. Everyone took the deal. They better not "frack" my stream. If they do, they will be killing hundreds of Pennsylvania's state fish, the Brook trout. Shouldn't there be some kind of law against that or something?
I live in PA , and actually have a well being built about a mile from our house. From all the information we have received, it doesn't seem like the trout streams will be affected. But as a wary and concerned fisher, I think this question should be asked louder. Good article
Here in MI, we have been holding off the 'Kentecot Mining Company' for a very similar reason. I would hate to see this happen where I fish and hunt. In order to be hear, you have to speak up, every person counts.
Drilling needs to be as responsible as possible, more wells require more drilling but not more always more PADS ie more land. Directional drilling allows multiple wells from the same pad. It allows the company to make big production & big money but limits the ground disturbance. Water can be treated & reused if it is to expensive/hard to get from streams, just put big price tags on it. However the Gas is used in homes & power plants, not in Executive offices, so this is not the gas companies fault, they are suppling a demand, people in large & small cities use the gas, WE are the problem too, not only the other guys.
Drilling needs to be as responsible as possible, more wells require more drilling but not more always more PADS ie more land. Directional drilling allows multiple wells from the same pad. It allows the company to make big production & big money but limits the ground disturbance. Water can be treated & reused if it is to expensive/hard to get from streams, just put big price tags on it. However the Gas is used in homes & power plants, not in Executive offices, so this is not the gas companies fault, they are suppling a demand, people in large & small cities use the gas, WE are the problem too, not only the other guys.
There are a few problems made with the staements above at least wehre PA is concerned. 1st the 5 acre well pad is only there for like 6 months then the companies have to put everything back. PA is extremely regulated which is why so many companies are pulling out. 2nd drilling was never done in PA cause we did not have the technology to do it before. I love huntin in the woods around me and fishin in local streams but the idea of use a cleaner burning fuel in the future will benifit in the long run. the earth has dealt with larger impacts before some drilling here and there is not going to damage it forever and i think the cleaner burning fuel is better in the long run.
Who's the right folks to contact about this? Rendell? Congressmen?
Contact your district Congressman and Senator and tell them this Fracting practice needs federal EPA oversight. Phone calls and Faxes are a good way to do it.
Also tell your friends about this.
Letting an industry regulate itself consistently proves to be a big mistake.
Hopefully we'll also be able to change the financial payoff to legislators by special interests too.
I believe that we need to look at the entire picture and realize what other things affect stream ecosystems. More streams are polluted everyday by developments, road construction, and human waste than all by the oil and gas industry. The PA game commission is distributing solid human waste infected with viruses and bacteria on many game lands, includeing sgl 321, that can kill and harm animals and humans. No one questions this? Also, those who question and worry about coal, oil and gas production in this country, please stop using electric, gasoline or plasic. I am a graduate from the University of Maryland in Natural Resource Management and have hunted and worked in Alaska, Wyoming, Colorado, Iowa, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Quebec and their are many other issues we should address
i like this article because where i hunt, in the last couple of months they have taken over the mountain and it is horrible they are tearing up the place.they have big trucks in and out 24-7 and the main area is right by our camp.and i have seen a decline in the deer i usually see already.i know its state land but the hunt club my father inlaw belongs to is private,(right next to the stae land) but unfortunatley they dont own the mineral rights so they are tearing it up to..i wish there was something we could do because i was out checking my trail cam today and i see the flagging where they are planning on almost going through our camps front yard..this sucks i wlsh everyone was like me i dont care about money as much as i enjoy taking my family up to the middle of no where to see,hunt and enjoy the outdoors,now thers a big drilling operation,cutting of trees,and laying pipe line all through our (use to be)peaceful spot.thanks for letting me vent im sure it wont be the last.hope everyone has a good season regardless.......
I was travelling from Potter County, PA south to York County. Every so often I would see what looked like tractor trailer containers with pumps attached to them. Is this what they are doing, pumping water into these wells?
i would have to say yes(even though not 100 percent sure)to ironpete827 because at the main staging area near our camp they have about 30-40 of those park there at all times.
ironpeteo827, Yes, we are pumping water from the Allegheny up to SGL 59. The Allegheny has no issues with it, the river has been at flood stage much of the summer and taking water for the four wells in the area and reusing it for each well will harmless water than the allegheny electric plant near Warren PA.
How does the old saying go:
Bring your lawyers, guns and money.
Thanks for nothing big oil and politicians.
It's sad.
I’ve been working in the oil and gas industry for 30 years and currently work with the Marcellus shale in PA. I believe that some of the article is misleading and there are some omissions and exaggerations.
I have never heard of a 9 million gallon frac job, nor are wells frac’d “a few times during its life” – a typical well is frac’d only once and the largest jobs are about 4 million gallon. While that sounds like a lot of water, it isn’t much in comparison to other water users. For example, all frac jobs over the entire Marcellus shale area will use much less water than golf courses use to water grass in the same region.
About the comment - “it’s cheaper to run a fire hose to a local source” - a typical water withdrawal is done at a rate more like a garden hose. Before being granted a permit to withdrawal water from any source many hydrologic and environmental studies are completed. We spend many hours collecting and researching data and then submit a detailed application to the DEP - all for a single, specific withdrawal site. If the DEP does grant a permit for withdrawal, the allowed rate is only a small fraction (about 1%) of the typical stream flow. In a typical stream the temporary water level reduction is about 1/16 of an inch. In the event of drought, we would need to shut down. In addition, the Pennsylvania Fish and Boat Commission regulate the withdrawal to minimize the effect on fish and habitat.
In regard to “Toxic Chemicals” in frac fluids – plain old water and sand comprise over 99.5% of the frac fluids. The following link contains a list of the remaining small amount of additives. You will notice that nearly all of the chemicals are also found in food and household products. When the fluids are produced back water treatment is also highly regulated by the DEP.
http://www.pamarcellus.com/MSC-Fracing.pdf
About the concerns over run-off and habitat fragmentation – only about 2% to 3% of the surface is affected by development. This minimal impact is an amazing accomplishment that is possible only through the use of new drilling technologies. In addition, after drilling is complete we completely restore well sites to only a 100 ft radius around the well which further reduces the impact during the producing life of the well. After the well is finished we restore the remainder of the site. The footprint of a shale gas well is much smaller than other forms of energy.
I have worked all over the world in the oil and gas business. In nearly all countries the government own and develop minerals. One of the great things about America is that we - individuals - own the oil and gas along with other minerals. Individuals have leased their land to gas companies. Thus, the gas companies are acting on behalf of the land owner. As pointed out in the article, many land owners have had Jed Clampett like experiences with the Marcellus shale. The rest of us throughout America will get lower energy prices where we can live the good life with affordable energy.
One last thing - I know some great fishing spots in crystal blue water next to offshore oil platforms in the Gulf ..... but I’m going to keep those a secret.
The area where I live in NE PA is relatively rural by eastern standards. The gas wells are sprouting up everywhere, even on what use to be my grandparents farm. Now where wetlands use to be is a fracking pond that drains into a much larger wetlands area filled with native wildlife and fish. Most of the area is relatively low income, so the people taking the money being paid by these gas companies are seeing how it will help them survive. These gas companies have already been responsible for contaminating the ground water to the point it is undrinkable and in some cases flammable, not to mention what they are doing to the native environment. The PA DEP from what I see and the local county conservation districts have done little to regulate these mining operations, hopefully people and the state will open their eye's to see that we are on the edge of another environmental mining catastrophe (like the abandoned coal mines). I hope I can help open their eye's.
It's sad to see that trout are being threatened by this.
I love the magazen, however I was very unhappy about this artical. I live in western Colorado and it was almost over night, after the 2008 elections, that most every friend of mine lost there jobs. Most of my friends work in the gas and oil indistery. Because of the loss of their jobs they are not hunting this year. This is a even a bigger loss to the state and the state wild life funds. I just hope this magazen does not become a mouth peace for the left wing. We do need to protect the enviorment, however not at the cast of valubal jobs.
No one in their right might should allow horizontal fracking drilling until Pennsylvania has aquatic toxicity charts available for exempted fracking chemicals which will be acute or chronic to the fish in PA streams and elsewhere! Find one fracturing chemical list which shows safe mg/l or ug/l for aquatic life! There is none for humans so why would there be one for aquatic life? Do not support natural gas drilling before fracturing chemical regulations are in place for humans, wildlife and aquatic life. Those who say it doesn't pollute are connected with the gas companies or have not done their homework to know the environment is not safe. You cannot clean dirty fracking water. All the big money offered to landowners now won't buy them clean air, water and soil in Pennsylvania in the future. We need regulations for fracturing chemicals, then drill baby drill. We also suggest closed loop systems and onsight regulatory inspection for each well as it is being cemented. We also suggest PADep makes these companies wait ten hours after cementing to ensure proper setup is in place before they continue to drill. How many gas companies report pollution? How many landowners report pollution? There is no water pollution protection in PA because there are no fracturing chemical guidelines for humans, wildlife or aquatic life.
Not only threatening the trout, but the small farmer too. We are loosing ground left and right to the gas drillers. We rent the land we farm and we were literally pushed out of the way when the companies showed up.....
This is exactly the kind of thing that sportsman need to stand together against. Does anyone know if Trout Unlimited is involved in this? If not, they need to be.
Without opposition, developers will dam, mine, drill, and blast our resources to insignificance. There seems to be something new every day It's appalling.
Congrats to F&S for picking up on this story... These things are important, and the public's education and involvement is key.
Yes, TU is working on this. They are active in NY and PA and are keeping an eye on what Marcellus Shale could do to rivers there. Here's an action alert they just sent out about potential impacts on the Upper Delaware. You can take action until April 12.
http://takeaction.tu.org/c.ntJSJ8MPIqE/b.5381441/k.8E2C/Take_Action/site...
The main thing that all of you are forgetting, or are conveniently leaving out is--Trout fishing and gas drilling can coexist nicely. I live on the San Juan River in NW New Mexico. It is one of the continent's premier trout waters, with gas wells all over the place, and drilling continuing regularly.
The thing you need to remember when talking about the water fracturing of the formation (fracking), it takes place thousands of feet underground. It does not pollute the water supplies, as some of you seem to think. The problem the author was refering to is the stealing of water from small streams. Of course this is a bad practice---just common sense. Water should be taken from ground water sources or larger surface supplies.
After the fracking process, the water is either evaporated in lined pits or is injected back into deep disposal wells. The rules are already in place in Pennsylvania, just as they are in New Mexico and Colorado.
On the subject of directional drilling: It is done to PROTECT the environment rather than destroy it. One well pad and one access road can be built with multiple wells into different formations drilled from the same location. This gives us more access to gas with less environmental impact.
Please get all the facts before you let all the "environmentalists" blow smoke up your skirts. I am as much an environmentalist as any one of you, and I make my living from the processing of natural gas. I take my love of nature to work with me every day, as do my coworkers. I know we all resent the idea that we are evil, greedy polluters. It is simply not the case. We hunt, fish, hike, camp...enjoy God's Creation. We are stewards of all of creation.
To Go_fish and sanjuanworm-Thank you for being sportsmen and writing in as insiders who work in the gas industry and for contributing to the discussion.
Go_fish states, "a typical well is frac’d only once and the largest jobs are about 4 million gallons . . . In regard to “Toxic Chemicals” in frac fluids – plain old water and sand comprise over 99.5% of the frac fluids."
1/2 of a percent of 4 million is still 20,000 gallons. I couldn't get the link to the remaining additives to work, but the manufacture and transportation alone of 20,000 gallons of chemicals is not without its impact, and that is before the cocktail is put into the ground. Is this the best we can do? Maybe it is.
Sanjuanworm states, "The thing you need to remember when talking about the water fracturing of the formation (fracking), it takes place thousands of feet underground. It does not pollute the water supplies, as some of you seem to think."
As of November 2009, a private consulting firm detected metals, toxic chemicals and industrial solvents in at least 24 residential wells near Dimock, PA. One residential well collected enough methane gas to explode. The State of Pennsylvania is suing one and possibly a second gas company for failure to adequately address the contamination of these residential wells. The affected residents had no issues with their well water until fracking began nearby. Where did the solvents come from if not from the fracking process? Also, contamination does not just occur due to fracking itself, but in one instance, 8000 gallons of fracturing fluids leaked out of its containment vessel and seeped into a freshwater stream.
I have an acquaintance who has been employed as an industrial chemist since 2001 and recently purchased a farm in north-central PA. He is concerned about fracking in the area and before closing on the property he paid for the most sophisticated test of the well water that is possible today, in order verify that the water is safe and also to establish and document a baseline of his water quality should contamination occur in the future.
Gas drilling, oil drilling, mining, etc and nature can and will coexist as long as we are alive as a species on this planet. What is needed is enough oversight to assure this happens correctly, and this is what is in question in PA. The gas, oil and mining companies cannot be trusted to regulate themselves and continue to prove this time after time. When there is a dollar to be made and no one is looking, shortcuts will be taken. All of us need to watch to assure they are operating using the best practices known today, including the employees of gas companies who have written above. Mistakes will be made and the best practice standards will need to be revised to account for things we will learn along the way. Nature is resilient, but water quality is a serious issue. Pollution, environmental degradation and habitat destruction should not be allowed to occur for a resource without using the best technology available in order to minimize the environmental impact.
Gas, Oil, Silver or GOLD--It doesn't matter. Our DNR here in Iowa wouldn't allow this type of activity, Hands Down! If folks up there want to preserve their trout streams, I strongly recommend you contact your senators or representatives and DNR and have some solid laws enacted immediately to preserve what is yet untouched!--(and repair what's already been damaged!)
ny only seems to care about nyc's water, that is what scares me being an upstate ny trout fisherman.
I do not place blame on private land owners as they do have the rights to do what they feel is best with their lands (within legal limits).
I do find it odd that the PA Fish and PA Game Commissions have jumped head first into this arena, leasing PA Fishing and Hunting license holder funded lands. Private land owners did not take an Oath of "Resource First", swearing to put the safety and health of it's resources at top priority. Fish and Game commissions did.
In PA, we have documented cases of accidents that have caused harm to our water sources. Hopefully, things will proceed with caution.
PA Fish and Boat Commission Solicitation:
http://www.fish.state.pa.us/water/ngwa/Hereford_Manor_cfo.pdf
On the fracking fluid having only 1/2 of a percent that is not water or sand, I'd like to give this little analogy. Imagine you have two barrels. One is full of fine wine and the other is raw sewage. If you take a cup full of wine and pour it into the other barrel, you still have one barrel full of fine wine and one barrel full of raw sewage. But if you take a cupful of raw sewage and pour it into the fine wine, you now have two barrels filled with raw sewage. The small number does not relieve my concern that large quantities of poisonous materials are being pumped deep into the earth without any means of containing it.
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The area where I live in NE PA is relatively rural by eastern standards. The gas wells are sprouting up everywhere, even on what use to be my grandparents farm. Now where wetlands use to be is a fracking pond that drains into a much larger wetlands area filled with native wildlife and fish. Most of the area is relatively low income, so the people taking the money being paid by these gas companies are seeing how it will help them survive. These gas companies have already been responsible for contaminating the ground water to the point it is undrinkable and in some cases flammable, not to mention what they are doing to the native environment. The PA DEP from what I see and the local county conservation districts have done little to regulate these mining operations, hopefully people and the state will open their eye's to see that we are on the edge of another environmental mining catastrophe (like the abandoned coal mines). I hope I can help open their eye's.
As mentioned,that area will never be the same.
Coal company's have been taking mountain tops off in this part of Appalachia,Kentucky, for years ... it ain't a pretty picture.
The land looks as if machinery raped Mother Earth, and basically just left her,until local politicians started barking. Now it looks like a beautiful mountain, with the top cut off ... with a few elk on it and grass.
I'm afraid the concerns of World-Class trout will be last in line and get the most "fracking!"
It's all 'bout the Benjamins!
Drilling needs to be as responsible as possible, more wells require more drilling but not more always more PADS ie more land. Directional drilling allows multiple wells from the same pad. It allows the company to make big production & big money but limits the ground disturbance. Water can be treated & reused if it is to expensive/hard to get from streams, just put big price tags on it. However the Gas is used in homes & power plants, not in Executive offices, so this is not the gas companies fault, they are suppling a demand, people in large & small cities use the gas, WE are the problem too, not only the other guys.
I believe that we need to look at the entire picture and realize what other things affect stream ecosystems. More streams are polluted everyday by developments, road construction, and human waste than all by the oil and gas industry. The PA game commission is distributing solid human waste infected with viruses and bacteria on many game lands, includeing sgl 321, that can kill and harm animals and humans. No one questions this? Also, those who question and worry about coal, oil and gas production in this country, please stop using electric, gasoline or plasic. I am a graduate from the University of Maryland in Natural Resource Management and have hunted and worked in Alaska, Wyoming, Colorado, Iowa, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Quebec and their are many other issues we should address
I fish many streams all over PA. The reason we are drilling for small natural gas deposits is because global warming alarmist and eco-fools don't want to drill anywhere useful, build nuke plants, or do anything to develop our own natural resources. The "not in my back yard" crowd should have their power turned off.
There are many trout streams in Pa. already polluted by stripmine run-off. It ain't pretty. This "fracking" practice seems destructive on multiple levels. I hate to think what it'll be be like after a couple decades of this.
There are a few problems made with the staements above at least wehre PA is concerned. 1st the 5 acre well pad is only there for like 6 months then the companies have to put everything back. PA is extremely regulated which is why so many companies are pulling out. 2nd drilling was never done in PA cause we did not have the technology to do it before. I love huntin in the woods around me and fishin in local streams but the idea of use a cleaner burning fuel in the future will benifit in the long run. the earth has dealt with larger impacts before some drilling here and there is not going to damage it forever and i think the cleaner burning fuel is better in the long run.
ironpeteo827, Yes, we are pumping water from the Allegheny up to SGL 59. The Allegheny has no issues with it, the river has been at flood stage much of the summer and taking water for the four wells in the area and reusing it for each well will harmless water than the allegheny electric plant near Warren PA.
Not only threatening the trout, but the small farmer too. We are loosing ground left and right to the gas drillers. We rent the land we farm and we were literally pushed out of the way when the companies showed up.....
To Go_fish and sanjuanworm-Thank you for being sportsmen and writing in as insiders who work in the gas industry and for contributing to the discussion.
Go_fish states, "a typical well is frac’d only once and the largest jobs are about 4 million gallons . . . In regard to “Toxic Chemicals” in frac fluids – plain old water and sand comprise over 99.5% of the frac fluids."
1/2 of a percent of 4 million is still 20,000 gallons. I couldn't get the link to the remaining additives to work, but the manufacture and transportation alone of 20,000 gallons of chemicals is not without its impact, and that is before the cocktail is put into the ground. Is this the best we can do? Maybe it is.
Sanjuanworm states, "The thing you need to remember when talking about the water fracturing of the formation (fracking), it takes place thousands of feet underground. It does not pollute the water supplies, as some of you seem to think."
As of November 2009, a private consulting firm detected metals, toxic chemicals and industrial solvents in at least 24 residential wells near Dimock, PA. One residential well collected enough methane gas to explode. The State of Pennsylvania is suing one and possibly a second gas company for failure to adequately address the contamination of these residential wells. The affected residents had no issues with their well water until fracking began nearby. Where did the solvents come from if not from the fracking process? Also, contamination does not just occur due to fracking itself, but in one instance, 8000 gallons of fracturing fluids leaked out of its containment vessel and seeped into a freshwater stream.
I have an acquaintance who has been employed as an industrial chemist since 2001 and recently purchased a farm in north-central PA. He is concerned about fracking in the area and before closing on the property he paid for the most sophisticated test of the well water that is possible today, in order verify that the water is safe and also to establish and document a baseline of his water quality should contamination occur in the future.
Gas drilling, oil drilling, mining, etc and nature can and will coexist as long as we are alive as a species on this planet. What is needed is enough oversight to assure this happens correctly, and this is what is in question in PA. The gas, oil and mining companies cannot be trusted to regulate themselves and continue to prove this time after time. When there is a dollar to be made and no one is looking, shortcuts will be taken. All of us need to watch to assure they are operating using the best practices known today, including the employees of gas companies who have written above. Mistakes will be made and the best practice standards will need to be revised to account for things we will learn along the way. Nature is resilient, but water quality is a serious issue. Pollution, environmental degradation and habitat destruction should not be allowed to occur for a resource without using the best technology available in order to minimize the environmental impact.
people tried to do that to a hunting club uth lnd my dad bellongs to and my cousins and their neighbors houses hbut they didnt do it cause they heard it could posion peopls waters
I am not even close to being a tree hugger. However, we need to preserve our environment. We should allow SOME drilling, but it should happen on a much smaller scale. Maybe allow 1 well to be drilled per every 1,000 acres or more. After the well has stopped producing, the gas company should be required to return the well site to its previous condition, removing any signs of the well ever being there. However, our politicians will never be able to agree on anything. For the politicians it will be either black or white, either we drill or we don't drill. But as someone already said, it's all about the benjamins...
I live in PA , and actually have a well being built about a mile from our house. From all the information we have received, it doesn't seem like the trout streams will be affected. But as a wary and concerned fisher, I think this question should be asked louder. Good article
Drilling needs to be as responsible as possible, more wells require more drilling but not more always more PADS ie more land. Directional drilling allows multiple wells from the same pad. It allows the company to make big production & big money but limits the ground disturbance. Water can be treated & reused if it is to expensive/hard to get from streams, just put big price tags on it. However the Gas is used in homes & power plants, not in Executive offices, so this is not the gas companies fault, they are suppling a demand, people in large & small cities use the gas, WE are the problem too, not only the other guys.
i would have to say yes(even though not 100 percent sure)to ironpete827 because at the main staging area near our camp they have about 30-40 of those park there at all times.
I’ve been working in the oil and gas industry for 30 years and currently work with the Marcellus shale in PA. I believe that some of the article is misleading and there are some omissions and exaggerations.
I have never heard of a 9 million gallon frac job, nor are wells frac’d “a few times during its life” – a typical well is frac’d only once and the largest jobs are about 4 million gallon. While that sounds like a lot of water, it isn’t much in comparison to other water users. For example, all frac jobs over the entire Marcellus shale area will use much less water than golf courses use to water grass in the same region.
About the comment - “it’s cheaper to run a fire hose to a local source” - a typical water withdrawal is done at a rate more like a garden hose. Before being granted a permit to withdrawal water from any source many hydrologic and environmental studies are completed. We spend many hours collecting and researching data and then submit a detailed application to the DEP - all for a single, specific withdrawal site. If the DEP does grant a permit for withdrawal, the allowed rate is only a small fraction (about 1%) of the typical stream flow. In a typical stream the temporary water level reduction is about 1/16 of an inch. In the event of drought, we would need to shut down. In addition, the Pennsylvania Fish and Boat Commission regulate the withdrawal to minimize the effect on fish and habitat.
In regard to “Toxic Chemicals” in frac fluids – plain old water and sand comprise over 99.5% of the frac fluids. The following link contains a list of the remaining small amount of additives. You will notice that nearly all of the chemicals are also found in food and household products. When the fluids are produced back water treatment is also highly regulated by the DEP.
http://www.pamarcellus.com/MSC-Fracing.pdf
About the concerns over run-off and habitat fragmentation – only about 2% to 3% of the surface is affected by development. This minimal impact is an amazing accomplishment that is possible only through the use of new drilling technologies. In addition, after drilling is complete we completely restore well sites to only a 100 ft radius around the well which further reduces the impact during the producing life of the well. After the well is finished we restore the remainder of the site. The footprint of a shale gas well is much smaller than other forms of energy.
I have worked all over the world in the oil and gas business. In nearly all countries the government own and develop minerals. One of the great things about America is that we - individuals - own the oil and gas along with other minerals. Individuals have leased their land to gas companies. Thus, the gas companies are acting on behalf of the land owner. As pointed out in the article, many land owners have had Jed Clampett like experiences with the Marcellus shale. The rest of us throughout America will get lower energy prices where we can live the good life with affordable energy.
One last thing - I know some great fishing spots in crystal blue water next to offshore oil platforms in the Gulf ..... but I’m going to keep those a secret.
It's sad to see that trout are being threatened by this.
This is exactly the kind of thing that sportsman need to stand together against. Does anyone know if Trout Unlimited is involved in this? If not, they need to be.
Without opposition, developers will dam, mine, drill, and blast our resources to insignificance. There seems to be something new every day It's appalling.
Congrats to F&S for picking up on this story... These things are important, and the public's education and involvement is key.
Yes, TU is working on this. They are active in NY and PA and are keeping an eye on what Marcellus Shale could do to rivers there. Here's an action alert they just sent out about potential impacts on the Upper Delaware. You can take action until April 12.
http://takeaction.tu.org/c.ntJSJ8MPIqE/b.5381441/k.8E2C/Take_Action/site...
The main thing that all of you are forgetting, or are conveniently leaving out is--Trout fishing and gas drilling can coexist nicely. I live on the San Juan River in NW New Mexico. It is one of the continent's premier trout waters, with gas wells all over the place, and drilling continuing regularly.
The thing you need to remember when talking about the water fracturing of the formation (fracking), it takes place thousands of feet underground. It does not pollute the water supplies, as some of you seem to think. The problem the author was refering to is the stealing of water from small streams. Of course this is a bad practice---just common sense. Water should be taken from ground water sources or larger surface supplies.
After the fracking process, the water is either evaporated in lined pits or is injected back into deep disposal wells. The rules are already in place in Pennsylvania, just as they are in New Mexico and Colorado.
On the subject of directional drilling: It is done to PROTECT the environment rather than destroy it. One well pad and one access road can be built with multiple wells into different formations drilled from the same location. This gives us more access to gas with less environmental impact.
Please get all the facts before you let all the "environmentalists" blow smoke up your skirts. I am as much an environmentalist as any one of you, and I make my living from the processing of natural gas. I take my love of nature to work with me every day, as do my coworkers. I know we all resent the idea that we are evil, greedy polluters. It is simply not the case. We hunt, fish, hike, camp...enjoy God's Creation. We are stewards of all of creation.
I do not place blame on private land owners as they do have the rights to do what they feel is best with their lands (within legal limits).
I do find it odd that the PA Fish and PA Game Commissions have jumped head first into this arena, leasing PA Fishing and Hunting license holder funded lands. Private land owners did not take an Oath of "Resource First", swearing to put the safety and health of it's resources at top priority. Fish and Game commissions did.
In PA, we have documented cases of accidents that have caused harm to our water sources. Hopefully, things will proceed with caution.
PA Fish and Boat Commission Solicitation:
http://www.fish.state.pa.us/water/ngwa/Hereford_Manor_cfo.pdf
My hunting/fishing cabin is about 2 miles south of NY state. Gas companies approached every landowner within like a 35 mile radius. Everyone took the deal. They better not "frack" my stream. If they do, they will be killing hundreds of Pennsylvania's state fish, the Brook trout. Shouldn't there be some kind of law against that or something?
Who's the right folks to contact about this? Rendell? Congressmen?
Contact your district Congressman and Senator and tell them this Fracting practice needs federal EPA oversight. Phone calls and Faxes are a good way to do it.
Also tell your friends about this.
Letting an industry regulate itself consistently proves to be a big mistake.
Hopefully we'll also be able to change the financial payoff to legislators by special interests too.
I was travelling from Potter County, PA south to York County. Every so often I would see what looked like tractor trailer containers with pumps attached to them. Is this what they are doing, pumping water into these wells?
I love the magazen, however I was very unhappy about this artical. I live in western Colorado and it was almost over night, after the 2008 elections, that most every friend of mine lost there jobs. Most of my friends work in the gas and oil indistery. Because of the loss of their jobs they are not hunting this year. This is a even a bigger loss to the state and the state wild life funds. I just hope this magazen does not become a mouth peace for the left wing. We do need to protect the enviorment, however not at the cast of valubal jobs.
No one in their right might should allow horizontal fracking drilling until Pennsylvania has aquatic toxicity charts available for exempted fracking chemicals which will be acute or chronic to the fish in PA streams and elsewhere! Find one fracturing chemical list which shows safe mg/l or ug/l for aquatic life! There is none for humans so why would there be one for aquatic life? Do not support natural gas drilling before fracturing chemical regulations are in place for humans, wildlife and aquatic life. Those who say it doesn't pollute are connected with the gas companies or have not done their homework to know the environment is not safe. You cannot clean dirty fracking water. All the big money offered to landowners now won't buy them clean air, water and soil in Pennsylvania in the future. We need regulations for fracturing chemicals, then drill baby drill. We also suggest closed loop systems and onsight regulatory inspection for each well as it is being cemented. We also suggest PADep makes these companies wait ten hours after cementing to ensure proper setup is in place before they continue to drill. How many gas companies report pollution? How many landowners report pollution? There is no water pollution protection in PA because there are no fracturing chemical guidelines for humans, wildlife or aquatic life.
Gas, Oil, Silver or GOLD--It doesn't matter. Our DNR here in Iowa wouldn't allow this type of activity, Hands Down! If folks up there want to preserve their trout streams, I strongly recommend you contact your senators or representatives and DNR and have some solid laws enacted immediately to preserve what is yet untouched!--(and repair what's already been damaged!)
ny only seems to care about nyc's water, that is what scares me being an upstate ny trout fisherman.
On the fracking fluid having only 1/2 of a percent that is not water or sand, I'd like to give this little analogy. Imagine you have two barrels. One is full of fine wine and the other is raw sewage. If you take a cup full of wine and pour it into the other barrel, you still have one barrel full of fine wine and one barrel full of raw sewage. But if you take a cupful of raw sewage and pour it into the fine wine, you now have two barrels filled with raw sewage. The small number does not relieve my concern that large quantities of poisonous materials are being pumped deep into the earth without any means of containing it.
Divide and conquer. The polluting industries must be loving this. A lot more habitat will be saved and less pollution will occur when people who care about the environment stand together. I believe the Blue/Green alliance between the Sierra Club and the United Autoworkers Union shows a way forward.
Here in MI, we have been holding off the 'Kentecot Mining Company' for a very similar reason. I would hate to see this happen where I fish and hunt. In order to be hear, you have to speak up, every person counts.
i like this article because where i hunt, in the last couple of months they have taken over the mountain and it is horrible they are tearing up the place.they have big trucks in and out 24-7 and the main area is right by our camp.and i have seen a decline in the deer i usually see already.i know its state land but the hunt club my father inlaw belongs to is private,(right next to the stae land) but unfortunatley they dont own the mineral rights so they are tearing it up to..i wish there was something we could do because i was out checking my trail cam today and i see the flagging where they are planning on almost going through our camps front yard..this sucks i wlsh everyone was like me i dont care about money as much as i enjoy taking my family up to the middle of no where to see,hunt and enjoy the outdoors,now thers a big drilling operation,cutting of trees,and laying pipe line all through our (use to be)peaceful spot.thanks for letting me vent im sure it wont be the last.hope everyone has a good season regardless.......
How does the old saying go:
Bring your lawyers, guns and money.
Thanks for nothing big oil and politicians.
It's sad.
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