


March 09, 2009
Bourjaily: Me & My Mossberg
By Philip Bourjaily
The guns of O.F. Mossberg, New Haven, CT, are beloved by many and scorned by others. People love them and hate them for the same reason: they’re cheap. I hear them called “Mossjunks,” “Mossturds” and worse by haters. I call the Mossberg 835 in this picture “my turkey gun.” I can find no reason at all to dislike it, nor to switch to something more glamorous and expensive.
My 835 doesn’t receive the epic abuse meted out to waterfowl guns but it has never failed, even on a couple of occasions when bad initial shooting on my part required fast pumping and a hail of lead to finish the job. It has killed turkeys from 12 steps to 50 yards. With a barrel bored to 10 gauge dimensions, it patterns turkey loads extremely well, its favorites being Winchester’s 3-inch Xtended Range 6s.
The receiver is tapped for a scope base, and I had one of Nikon’s fine Turkey Pro scopes on it for a while. Recently I replaced the scope with an Aimpoint 9000 that costs more than the gun. Complete with red dot and sling, the whole rig weighs just 8 pounds, and the 20-inch barrel doesn’t catch on branches as I hike through the woods. It does have a flabby 6 pound trigger and fragile fiber optic sights, but that’s the end of its shortcomings
Since the picture was taken, I’ve put on one of Mossberg’s Dual Comb stocks on my gun. The Dual Comb was the first factory stock I know of to offer an insert to raise the comb for scope use. That brings up another, often overlooked, point. Mossberg may be known for inexpensive guns, but they are innovators. The 835 was the first factory overbored gun. The 835’s little brother, the Model 500 pump, was the first shotgun available with a factory fully rifled slug barrel or an accessory muzzleloader barrel.
Inexpensive, innovative, reliable, and with an ambidextrous safety to boot, what’s not to like? I hunt with other turkey guns sometimes, but when I need an edge (and frankly, that’s most days) the 835 is the gun I carry.
Comments (52)
I also have a Mossberg New Haven as a turkey gun. At first I thought it was a cheap piece of crap, and I'd take it out and if it got scratched up busting through brush, so what! But now I would feel naked without it, I'm confident at 50 yrds. Cheap wouldn't be a proper accessment of the gun, how about.... great product for the price.
Well the Marine Corps uses the semi-auto 590 and that's good enough for me. I have a Model 500 that I use for everything and it has never missed a lick. I think the more appropriate word for Mossberg shotguns are inexpensive, not cheap.
You said it all Phil. As pump guns go I've always been an 870 fan. But... There is absolutely nothing wrong with the Mossberg. On a Turkey hunt a number of years ago in south Texas. The endless wind deposited a load of fine grit on all of our guns. The boys with the semi autos soon found themselves in a fix. My buddy's Mossberg along with my 870 kept on working just fine. Just slicked up our actions! One fellow hunting with our party who was equipped with a high priced import was pretty rough on us and our pump guns at the beginning of the trip. He had to eat crow at the end of the hunt though when he had to use my friend's Mossberg to collect his gobbler! Tried and true works every time...
I agree with Beekeeper that the 870 is a great gun, but now in these hard times an inexpensive gun that is also durable is a must have and this gun fits the bill.
Nate
I've owned mossbergs (in one form/gauge or another) for years. Yes they are inexpensive and the wood is nothing to swoon over but from ducks to squirrels to deer to turkey, I've never, ever had a mossberg 500 jam or fail to fire.
Jim
I love the position of the Mossberg safety over the 870 safety. I owned a 500 once and loved it. Sorry I got rid of it.
If I wasn't able to purchase a used Mossberg 500 cheap I would not have gotten into Turkey Hunting. Still not any good at it and haven't gotten one yet but I would not disdain a gun because I didn't have the opportunity to spend a month's worth of paychecks on it. As long as the quality is there, the cheaper the better, helps people get over the intro-cost hurdles for the hunting and shooting sports.
Phil, I'm sorry, this is a bit off topic but I have to comment on the scope. What's up with scopes on turkey guns? I just don't think the little added benefit out weighs the negatives. Don't you worry about the last shot knocking the scope off center or the battery in the reddot going dead or getting it bumped during travel or the moisture from your breath rising out from you eye holes in your mask fogging your lens, or having your shot deflected by the branches that are close that you cannot see because they are focused out. Most importantly a scope only allows you to hunt with one eye. You will have loss of depth perception, light and limited field of view. What about the shot only 3feet away?
Maybe it's just me but I think my shotgun is a better weapon without a scope.
My 835 is also my main shotgun. Never had any problems with and it was cheap which was a big plus for me just getting out of college.
Ditto! I use an 835 for everything. It's a do all gun, better ergonomics, less expensive and reliable.
i love my 835, it has killed many turkeys.
My main shotgun is an 870 and I love it, but when I went to by another one to setup for deer hunting I saw a Mossberg 500 for a price I couldn't pass up. I was a little skeptical at first, but now I would not trade it for anything. It is reliable and accurate, and what else could you ask for in a gun.
I have to wonder if this thread has Mr. Petzal sitting in a corner, stroking his (insert any expensive gun brand here) and laughing maniacally @ the positive posts about a Mossberg shotgun?
Oh Dave, Dave......
I bought one (935), I hunt with it. It will never be my favorite shotgun, but it fires and it was cheap.
My favorite Turkey gun is a Marlin 120. One problem, I worn it out!
Is there anyone in the business who can improve the trigger?
After reading a column (from P.B. I think) I bought their youth gun to loan to grandkids as they got old enough to shoot but were still too little to easily handle a semi-auto. Bought a case of Fiochii extra light loads, later Rem. & Win. began making them too.
Talk about innovation! This thing comes with TWO stock length adapters & a cupon for an adult stock. The safety is in the best place too. Thumb works equally well for left or right handers. Has camo finish & fiber optic sights (which you should tape over when teaching a new shooter). I bought the adult stock but hid it so grandson's dad wouldn't convert it to his turkey gun in place of the 12ga. Rem. 1187 he usually carries.
Buckhunter -- Okay, so my scopes and red dots are a crutch and I'll admit it, but they make me confident in the field.
I worry about all those potential problems you mention, but not a one of them has cropped up in the woods yet.
My Aimpoint has a battery life of 5 years,even if I forget to turn it off. I put in a fresh battery this year and made a note to change to a new one during the 2012 Olympics. If you use low power scopes (1x-1.5x) you can keep both eyes open. I've shot running turkeys with scoped guns with no problem at all. However, if you're confident with no optics on your gun, that's the way for you to hunt.
The more affordable, quality guns out there, the better. There are already enough roadblocks for our sports. Thank goodness there are American companies making solid guns for prices almost anybody can afford.
I was in a sporting good's store last fall and saw a 500 Combo with a 28 inch barrel and a 20 inch rifled barrel, raised comb and cheap scope included, for $250. It's solid, reliable, easy to work on, inexpensive and best of all, made in the USA. We use to be able to buy lots of things in this country that fit that description, but not any more. If anything good comes out of this depression Obama has plunged us in to, maybe we will learn to make affordable, reliable stuff again. I am sick of the junk that comes out of China.
I have owned and used Winchester and Remington for over forty years. When I decided to give my son a shotgun we went to Gander and handled everything on the floor. A couple hundred dollars more or less was not an issue. What went under the Christmas tree was a Mossburg 500 that came with a shot barrel and a couple of chokes, a rifled slug barrel, a scope, that nifty Dual Comb stock, and QD swivels. What a set that was! I loved the tang safety and the "point" when you shoot that gun.
I too own a Mossy 500, It isn't my favorite but I'm keeping it. There are times when a 12 gauge pump is the only thing that will do. I have been condidering getting an alternate barrel for it, something with an adjustable choke. Maybe when the "stimulus" comes in...
Never have bought one, but i have shot a m,sosberg and was amazed at how welll it swung and handled. Great guns for a small price.
I have a couple of "Mossunbergers" as my daddy used to call them, and they have never failed me in the field. So call them cheap if you like, but they get the job done!
To jjas: I am at peace. Nothing can separate me from my Perazzi Extra Lusso turkey gun, engraved by Firmo Fracassi with scenes of Barack Obama standard fast against earmarks.
Phil will learn.
That should be "standing."
I like the 500 stainless marine version myself.
You guys sold me on Mossbergs, will be going shopping soon
Come on Phil, quit playing with your Mossturd and get out the 870.
Mossberg is one of those guns that you get a whole lot of gun for your money. You also get a lot of years out of if you maintain it and use it properly, contrary to belief. Yeh, it might not be the most comfortable, light, or "best" turkey gun out there, but it works. To me, hunting isn't about being comfortable or anything like that. I mean yeh it is a bonus and something nice to have but hunting is not all about that. That is just a bonus and the last thing on the list. And for the price, it is one hell of a turkey gun. Another added bonus is that it is made in AMERICA. It is one hell of a gun!
I've owned several Mossbergs. Two shotguns, an 835 and 500; and three rifles 22 mag and a couple 22 LR.
Both shotguns shot so far to the left you'd miss a turkey head at 25 yards and rattled like a baby toy. 2 of the three rifles shot patterns, not groups and the trigger design looked like a Rubegoldberg bad joke. Got rid of all those and never missded them since.
The one Mossberg I have now is a 46B bolt action 22, 22short, 22 long rifle built before they put serial numbers on them. It's a well designed good shooting rifle with a great trigger and a darn nice rifle by any standards. Too bad Mossberg doesn't make those any more.
I'm glad you guys like your Mossbergs but I'll never have another any thing that says Mossberg on it.
I don't own anything Mossberg now but in 88 I was at Ft. Wood and had to shoot a shotgun to deerhunt. Bought the Mossy pump with rifled barrel and shot my best Whitetail yet with it. A 17 pointer with one shot at 75 yds.
The first shotgun I ever held was my Pop's old Mossberg "Goosegun". I have no idea what the model was, but it was 12 ga., bolt-action, clip-fed, and from my young height, about 6 feet long and weighed 50 pounds.
I have had my father's 500AT for 25 years. I have no idea how long he had it. My son and his son will eventually own this "cheapie". I have a standard, a slug, riot, and a rib/choke barrel for it. It has never failed to chamber, fire, or eject. There is no higher praise I have for a gun.
My dad had a Mossberg semi-auto .22 rifle that was accurate, never failed and was just plain good looking. Had a swiveling peep sight on it. Also had a 20 ga. bolt shotgun. He gave the rifle to my brother and the shotgun to me for Christmas one year. Those are great guns, and still in our possession.
Not all of us are enamored of the Mossberg line of rifles and shotguns. As a kid, every Mossberg .22 I saw was non-functioning...I learned to steer clear of them. As a policeman, I was put in a dangerous situation with a 12 ga. pump that would not feed the second round...and we had more than one, unfortunately.
Call me old-fashioned, but when I get burned, like Redfield not honoring their scopes, or a certain brand of tires failing---I simply avoid them and go to a competitor that does better--even if it costs a few bucks more. If Mossberg is doing well...a lot of us will listen.
Blue
I have never owned a Mossberg and I never will. I had a friend in high school who was patterning 3 1/2" turkey loads through his 835 when the left side of the bore and receiver exploded! Thank God he shoots left-handed, otherwise it might have taken off half his face! He sent it in to Mossberg to have it replaced and they refused saying that he must have been shooting reloads, which he was not. After that, I refuse to own a Mossberg shotgun! However their 4X4 rifles are very appealing!
James
Phil you're right on here. I own a lot of guns, buy, sell, trade all that but I will tell you that I've never owned an 870 and the reason why is that there was always a Mossburg in the closet and I'd rather have the extra money for shells! I have shot mine side by side against Brownings and Remintons and come away smiling every time.
They are just good, cheap, and fun to shoot. People that own the 200 dollar guns don't mind only hitting 17 at the range. So there you go, By an 835, have fun, live longer! :)
The only Mossturd I ever owned was a short barreled duty weapon Mossberg 500. I liked the tang safety better than the 870 trigger guard safety when entering and clearing buildings. But a few failures to feed sent me back to the 870. Two of my friends have had forearms split in half and my son has three Mossbergs and every one of them has been to the gunsmith to fix extractors or something this past year, as has one of his friend's 500. The autoloaders always seem to have a problem just when the geese are in range!
No thanks, but I'll stick with my old 870's and S&W 1000 until I can afford a DP Special Obama Edition. I guess they beat a Chinese-made H&R or whatever.
I've never owned a Mossberg, but I do like the action release and the safety location over the 870. What always concerned me was the forend. It always seems a little looser than the 870, and for that reason I just picked up another 870. I think they're both great guns though.
As a gunsmith, I can report that I do not get many Mossberg shotguns in for repair. The new 100 ATR rifle is another matter. A customer bought one of these and had the extractor fall out within three shots. I called Mossberg and am still waiting for the warranty parts to arrive. The good news is that a Savage 110 extractor is a drop-in replacement and is readily available. Mossberg's customer service needs improvement.
Maybe folks just throw them away when they break since they are so cheap! (smirk)
Ya' wanna really suffer the insults. Try going out with a Mossberg disguised as a Coast-to-Coast shotgun. But the ol' 20 ga. did the job for Dad on pheasants and quail since the '60's and it's still working just fine. I expect one of my four sons will soon lay claim to it and carry it until the 4th generation stakes its claim.
I have a 835 and shot a nice buck at 50 yards in November. I can't wait to take it turkey hunting and eventually waterfowl hunting.
I had an old Hi-Standard cleverly disguised as a Sears pump 12 ga. Never failed. It could not, however, protect itself from the thief who took it from my household goods during shipment.
Remington, Winchester, Smith&Wesson, Browning, Benelli, etc. do not have the market cornered on well made firearms. Almost every company has/does make some well made guns. If they didn't, they would be out of business. Hard to argue with the sales and hunter survey ratings for the Remington 870. Nothing else comes close.
When it come down to "it must go bang without fail", give me a Remington 870 with 2 3/4 or 3 inch loads and a Smith & Wesson wheelgun in something that ends in "Magnum"
P.S.
I meant to conclude with:
One of those will be what a threat will face when it comes down to hammer time!
I favor the Remington 870 Express which is also affordable but if you are really strapped for cash I would say there is no better substitute than a Mossberg 500.
My turkey huntin' buddy has the Mossberg 835, and he simply loves it.
He says, "it may be inexpensive, but it ain't cheap!"
He won't part ways with it!
I liked the way you "overhauled" it ... I'm going to tell my turkey huntin' bud.
I have a Mossberg 500 20 gauge that is 35 years old. It served my dad well for many years and is serving me as well. I've never had it jam or fowl, and is my go-to gun for grouse and woodcock. A 26 inch barrel is just right for crawling through the alders chasing birds.
I had never bought a mossberg until recently because I always hated how loose the forearm feels. They just never felt right although everyone I knew that had them said it made no differance. So I bought an 870 in 3 1/2 inch and had problems with it. So recently I was standing in walmart and noticed a mossberg I could buy for less than 200 hundred bucks and I thought well why not give it a try. It is called a maverick and I could tell it was the cheapest made gun I had ever seen. I took this gun as a backup to goof around with it on a duckhunt and found that what birds I did hit were barely being hit. Well new gun maybe it was just me. So I took it to a trap range and started missing almost everything thrown and noticed my shot cups far too the left on straight aways. One of the guys who worked there came out and was watching me and asked me to come pattern it on the turkey board they have set up. I fired the gun three times and the guy cheered, clapped me on the shoulder and congratulated me for being the first guy he had ever seen that had a shotgun that could shoot around left hand corners! Oh well you get what you pay for. But that doesn't mean a more expensive mossberg would do the same. I think I just have too close of a relationship with Mr. Murphy. Phil, Dave any suggestions on a shotgun you think I could not mess up? I would be happy to buy it and then tell you what went wrong. I think I could mess up a London best but that would be a little out of my price range.
Maybe that explains why my buddy kills geese flying left to right better than right to left and never can hit squat coming head on. The banana trajectory corrects his lead! LMAO
Even though they are produced by separate manufacturers, comparing my Mossberg 500 to my Remington 870 is like comparing my GMC truck to my Chevrolet truck, Both are generally the same with minor differences, but perform as expected.
My brother had a Mossberg 20ga. It stopped working when his friend flipped the truck when it was sitting in the bed.
I have owned almost every major brand of gun at one time or another except never a Mossberg. Perhaps I should reconsider after all these years.
I gotta stick with my 870 that I love.
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To jjas: I am at peace. Nothing can separate me from my Perazzi Extra Lusso turkey gun, engraved by Firmo Fracassi with scenes of Barack Obama standard fast against earmarks.
Phil will learn.
Not all of us are enamored of the Mossberg line of rifles and shotguns. As a kid, every Mossberg .22 I saw was non-functioning...I learned to steer clear of them. As a policeman, I was put in a dangerous situation with a 12 ga. pump that would not feed the second round...and we had more than one, unfortunately.
Call me old-fashioned, but when I get burned, like Redfield not honoring their scopes, or a certain brand of tires failing---I simply avoid them and go to a competitor that does better--even if it costs a few bucks more. If Mossberg is doing well...a lot of us will listen.
Blue
I have never owned a Mossberg and I never will. I had a friend in high school who was patterning 3 1/2" turkey loads through his 835 when the left side of the bore and receiver exploded! Thank God he shoots left-handed, otherwise it might have taken off half his face! He sent it in to Mossberg to have it replaced and they refused saying that he must have been shooting reloads, which he was not. After that, I refuse to own a Mossberg shotgun! However their 4X4 rifles are very appealing!
James
You said it all Phil. As pump guns go I've always been an 870 fan. But... There is absolutely nothing wrong with the Mossberg. On a Turkey hunt a number of years ago in south Texas. The endless wind deposited a load of fine grit on all of our guns. The boys with the semi autos soon found themselves in a fix. My buddy's Mossberg along with my 870 kept on working just fine. Just slicked up our actions! One fellow hunting with our party who was equipped with a high priced import was pretty rough on us and our pump guns at the beginning of the trip. He had to eat crow at the end of the hunt though when he had to use my friend's Mossberg to collect his gobbler! Tried and true works every time...
Phil, I'm sorry, this is a bit off topic but I have to comment on the scope. What's up with scopes on turkey guns? I just don't think the little added benefit out weighs the negatives. Don't you worry about the last shot knocking the scope off center or the battery in the reddot going dead or getting it bumped during travel or the moisture from your breath rising out from you eye holes in your mask fogging your lens, or having your shot deflected by the branches that are close that you cannot see because they are focused out. Most importantly a scope only allows you to hunt with one eye. You will have loss of depth perception, light and limited field of view. What about the shot only 3feet away?
Maybe it's just me but I think my shotgun is a better weapon without a scope.
Buckhunter -- Okay, so my scopes and red dots are a crutch and I'll admit it, but they make me confident in the field.
I worry about all those potential problems you mention, but not a one of them has cropped up in the woods yet.
My Aimpoint has a battery life of 5 years,even if I forget to turn it off. I put in a fresh battery this year and made a note to change to a new one during the 2012 Olympics. If you use low power scopes (1x-1.5x) you can keep both eyes open. I've shot running turkeys with scoped guns with no problem at all. However, if you're confident with no optics on your gun, that's the way for you to hunt.
The more affordable, quality guns out there, the better. There are already enough roadblocks for our sports. Thank goodness there are American companies making solid guns for prices almost anybody can afford.
Mossberg is one of those guns that you get a whole lot of gun for your money. You also get a lot of years out of if you maintain it and use it properly, contrary to belief. Yeh, it might not be the most comfortable, light, or "best" turkey gun out there, but it works. To me, hunting isn't about being comfortable or anything like that. I mean yeh it is a bonus and something nice to have but hunting is not all about that. That is just a bonus and the last thing on the list. And for the price, it is one hell of a turkey gun. Another added bonus is that it is made in AMERICA. It is one hell of a gun!
I don't own anything Mossberg now but in 88 I was at Ft. Wood and had to shoot a shotgun to deerhunt. Bought the Mossy pump with rifled barrel and shot my best Whitetail yet with it. A 17 pointer with one shot at 75 yds.
The first shotgun I ever held was my Pop's old Mossberg "Goosegun". I have no idea what the model was, but it was 12 ga., bolt-action, clip-fed, and from my young height, about 6 feet long and weighed 50 pounds.
I have had my father's 500AT for 25 years. I have no idea how long he had it. My son and his son will eventually own this "cheapie". I have a standard, a slug, riot, and a rib/choke barrel for it. It has never failed to chamber, fire, or eject. There is no higher praise I have for a gun.
The only Mossturd I ever owned was a short barreled duty weapon Mossberg 500. I liked the tang safety better than the 870 trigger guard safety when entering and clearing buildings. But a few failures to feed sent me back to the 870. Two of my friends have had forearms split in half and my son has three Mossbergs and every one of them has been to the gunsmith to fix extractors or something this past year, as has one of his friend's 500. The autoloaders always seem to have a problem just when the geese are in range!
No thanks, but I'll stick with my old 870's and S&W 1000 until I can afford a DP Special Obama Edition. I guess they beat a Chinese-made H&R or whatever.
I also have a Mossberg New Haven as a turkey gun. At first I thought it was a cheap piece of crap, and I'd take it out and if it got scratched up busting through brush, so what! But now I would feel naked without it, I'm confident at 50 yrds. Cheap wouldn't be a proper accessment of the gun, how about.... great product for the price.
Well the Marine Corps uses the semi-auto 590 and that's good enough for me. I have a Model 500 that I use for everything and it has never missed a lick. I think the more appropriate word for Mossberg shotguns are inexpensive, not cheap.
I agree with Beekeeper that the 870 is a great gun, but now in these hard times an inexpensive gun that is also durable is a must have and this gun fits the bill.
Nate
I've owned mossbergs (in one form/gauge or another) for years. Yes they are inexpensive and the wood is nothing to swoon over but from ducks to squirrels to deer to turkey, I've never, ever had a mossberg 500 jam or fail to fire.
Jim
If I wasn't able to purchase a used Mossberg 500 cheap I would not have gotten into Turkey Hunting. Still not any good at it and haven't gotten one yet but I would not disdain a gun because I didn't have the opportunity to spend a month's worth of paychecks on it. As long as the quality is there, the cheaper the better, helps people get over the intro-cost hurdles for the hunting and shooting sports.
Is there anyone in the business who can improve the trigger?
After reading a column (from P.B. I think) I bought their youth gun to loan to grandkids as they got old enough to shoot but were still too little to easily handle a semi-auto. Bought a case of Fiochii extra light loads, later Rem. & Win. began making them too.
Talk about innovation! This thing comes with TWO stock length adapters & a cupon for an adult stock. The safety is in the best place too. Thumb works equally well for left or right handers. Has camo finish & fiber optic sights (which you should tape over when teaching a new shooter). I bought the adult stock but hid it so grandson's dad wouldn't convert it to his turkey gun in place of the 12ga. Rem. 1187 he usually carries.
I was in a sporting good's store last fall and saw a 500 Combo with a 28 inch barrel and a 20 inch rifled barrel, raised comb and cheap scope included, for $250. It's solid, reliable, easy to work on, inexpensive and best of all, made in the USA. We use to be able to buy lots of things in this country that fit that description, but not any more. If anything good comes out of this depression Obama has plunged us in to, maybe we will learn to make affordable, reliable stuff again. I am sick of the junk that comes out of China.
I have a couple of "Mossunbergers" as my daddy used to call them, and they have never failed me in the field. So call them cheap if you like, but they get the job done!
That should be "standing."
You guys sold me on Mossbergs, will be going shopping soon
I've owned several Mossbergs. Two shotguns, an 835 and 500; and three rifles 22 mag and a couple 22 LR.
Both shotguns shot so far to the left you'd miss a turkey head at 25 yards and rattled like a baby toy. 2 of the three rifles shot patterns, not groups and the trigger design looked like a Rubegoldberg bad joke. Got rid of all those and never missded them since.
The one Mossberg I have now is a 46B bolt action 22, 22short, 22 long rifle built before they put serial numbers on them. It's a well designed good shooting rifle with a great trigger and a darn nice rifle by any standards. Too bad Mossberg doesn't make those any more.
I'm glad you guys like your Mossbergs but I'll never have another any thing that says Mossberg on it.
My dad had a Mossberg semi-auto .22 rifle that was accurate, never failed and was just plain good looking. Had a swiveling peep sight on it. Also had a 20 ga. bolt shotgun. He gave the rifle to my brother and the shotgun to me for Christmas one year. Those are great guns, and still in our possession.
Phil you're right on here. I own a lot of guns, buy, sell, trade all that but I will tell you that I've never owned an 870 and the reason why is that there was always a Mossburg in the closet and I'd rather have the extra money for shells! I have shot mine side by side against Brownings and Remintons and come away smiling every time.
They are just good, cheap, and fun to shoot. People that own the 200 dollar guns don't mind only hitting 17 at the range. So there you go, By an 835, have fun, live longer! :)
Maybe that explains why my buddy kills geese flying left to right better than right to left and never can hit squat coming head on. The banana trajectory corrects his lead! LMAO
I love the position of the Mossberg safety over the 870 safety. I owned a 500 once and loved it. Sorry I got rid of it.
My 835 is also my main shotgun. Never had any problems with and it was cheap which was a big plus for me just getting out of college.
Ditto! I use an 835 for everything. It's a do all gun, better ergonomics, less expensive and reliable.
i love my 835, it has killed many turkeys.
My main shotgun is an 870 and I love it, but when I went to by another one to setup for deer hunting I saw a Mossberg 500 for a price I couldn't pass up. I was a little skeptical at first, but now I would not trade it for anything. It is reliable and accurate, and what else could you ask for in a gun.
I have to wonder if this thread has Mr. Petzal sitting in a corner, stroking his (insert any expensive gun brand here) and laughing maniacally @ the positive posts about a Mossberg shotgun?
Oh Dave, Dave......
I bought one (935), I hunt with it. It will never be my favorite shotgun, but it fires and it was cheap.
My favorite Turkey gun is a Marlin 120. One problem, I worn it out!
I have owned and used Winchester and Remington for over forty years. When I decided to give my son a shotgun we went to Gander and handled everything on the floor. A couple hundred dollars more or less was not an issue. What went under the Christmas tree was a Mossburg 500 that came with a shot barrel and a couple of chokes, a rifled slug barrel, a scope, that nifty Dual Comb stock, and QD swivels. What a set that was! I loved the tang safety and the "point" when you shoot that gun.
I too own a Mossy 500, It isn't my favorite but I'm keeping it. There are times when a 12 gauge pump is the only thing that will do. I have been condidering getting an alternate barrel for it, something with an adjustable choke. Maybe when the "stimulus" comes in...
Never have bought one, but i have shot a m,sosberg and was amazed at how welll it swung and handled. Great guns for a small price.
I like the 500 stainless marine version myself.
I've never owned a Mossberg, but I do like the action release and the safety location over the 870. What always concerned me was the forend. It always seems a little looser than the 870, and for that reason I just picked up another 870. I think they're both great guns though.
As a gunsmith, I can report that I do not get many Mossberg shotguns in for repair. The new 100 ATR rifle is another matter. A customer bought one of these and had the extractor fall out within three shots. I called Mossberg and am still waiting for the warranty parts to arrive. The good news is that a Savage 110 extractor is a drop-in replacement and is readily available. Mossberg's customer service needs improvement.
Maybe folks just throw them away when they break since they are so cheap! (smirk)
Ya' wanna really suffer the insults. Try going out with a Mossberg disguised as a Coast-to-Coast shotgun. But the ol' 20 ga. did the job for Dad on pheasants and quail since the '60's and it's still working just fine. I expect one of my four sons will soon lay claim to it and carry it until the 4th generation stakes its claim.
I have a 835 and shot a nice buck at 50 yards in November. I can't wait to take it turkey hunting and eventually waterfowl hunting.
I had an old Hi-Standard cleverly disguised as a Sears pump 12 ga. Never failed. It could not, however, protect itself from the thief who took it from my household goods during shipment.
Remington, Winchester, Smith&Wesson, Browning, Benelli, etc. do not have the market cornered on well made firearms. Almost every company has/does make some well made guns. If they didn't, they would be out of business. Hard to argue with the sales and hunter survey ratings for the Remington 870. Nothing else comes close.
When it come down to "it must go bang without fail", give me a Remington 870 with 2 3/4 or 3 inch loads and a Smith & Wesson wheelgun in something that ends in "Magnum"
P.S.
I meant to conclude with:
One of those will be what a threat will face when it comes down to hammer time!
I favor the Remington 870 Express which is also affordable but if you are really strapped for cash I would say there is no better substitute than a Mossberg 500.
My turkey huntin' buddy has the Mossberg 835, and he simply loves it.
He says, "it may be inexpensive, but it ain't cheap!"
He won't part ways with it!
I liked the way you "overhauled" it ... I'm going to tell my turkey huntin' bud.
I have a Mossberg 500 20 gauge that is 35 years old. It served my dad well for many years and is serving me as well. I've never had it jam or fowl, and is my go-to gun for grouse and woodcock. A 26 inch barrel is just right for crawling through the alders chasing birds.
I had never bought a mossberg until recently because I always hated how loose the forearm feels. They just never felt right although everyone I knew that had them said it made no differance. So I bought an 870 in 3 1/2 inch and had problems with it. So recently I was standing in walmart and noticed a mossberg I could buy for less than 200 hundred bucks and I thought well why not give it a try. It is called a maverick and I could tell it was the cheapest made gun I had ever seen. I took this gun as a backup to goof around with it on a duckhunt and found that what birds I did hit were barely being hit. Well new gun maybe it was just me. So I took it to a trap range and started missing almost everything thrown and noticed my shot cups far too the left on straight aways. One of the guys who worked there came out and was watching me and asked me to come pattern it on the turkey board they have set up. I fired the gun three times and the guy cheered, clapped me on the shoulder and congratulated me for being the first guy he had ever seen that had a shotgun that could shoot around left hand corners! Oh well you get what you pay for. But that doesn't mean a more expensive mossberg would do the same. I think I just have too close of a relationship with Mr. Murphy. Phil, Dave any suggestions on a shotgun you think I could not mess up? I would be happy to buy it and then tell you what went wrong. I think I could mess up a London best but that would be a little out of my price range.
Even though they are produced by separate manufacturers, comparing my Mossberg 500 to my Remington 870 is like comparing my GMC truck to my Chevrolet truck, Both are generally the same with minor differences, but perform as expected.
My brother had a Mossberg 20ga. It stopped working when his friend flipped the truck when it was sitting in the bed.
I have owned almost every major brand of gun at one time or another except never a Mossberg. Perhaps I should reconsider after all these years.
I gotta stick with my 870 that I love.
Come on Phil, quit playing with your Mossturd and get out the 870.
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