


July 20, 2009
Petzal: How I Spent My Summer Vacation
By David E. Petzal

The photo you see here was taken in the deep and rolling hills of old Virginia, by Mr. Jerry Cox of Tazewell, VA, to whom I am indebted. The people standing behind me are also Virginians, except for the fellow on the left, whose name I did not get, but whom I know to be a pensioner from Tennessee. The rifle in the rest in front of me belongs to him. He insisted I use it, because my gun “…would be embarrassing to take to a dump and shoot rats.”
It’s a shining example of how the groundhog, of all species, seems to have the absolute in high-tech hardware brought to bear on it. The rifle, whose name is Old Blood and Guts, is a .22/250, built on a Stolle left-hand action, a Canjar trigger (which you can’t get no more), 26-inch Jarrett barrel, and a McMillan stock. It weighs 15 pounds, which means it recoils so little you can see the fur part. The scope is a massive Nightforce variable.
Old B&G is actually a prairie dog rifle, and when I asked its owner how well it shot, he answered:
“The trick is to fire four very fast 5-shot groups [five shots per minute or so] and check the final point of impact. If it heats up and scatters shots it gets an F. But if it shoots into a half-inch and in the same place you can take it to the prairie-dog patch.”
It works pretty good on groundhogs, too, as the three in the foreground of the photo would tell you. If they could speak.
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Dave,
Impressive rifle and heckova shooting rest you got there. Dang, I was just about to order one of the ER Shaw rifles in 22-250. You know the ones that shoot tiny one hole groups (according to DEP). Now you've gone and mucked up the decision for me.
Just kidding, I still want the Shaw rifle.
Looks like a good way to spend a summer day.
Looks like a good way to spend a summer day.
To Steve 182: It is a good way to spend a summer's day. It is a good way to spend a summer's day.
Go get 'em, DEP! Groundhog hunting has suffered greatly in our area, too many folks with nothing else to do but haunt the back 40 while others are working. I know, sour grapes...............
DEP- Perhaps the most endearing quality to your writing (and your responses to reader comments like the one above) is your willingness to be a complete jerk.
May I grow old enough to enjoy such privileges!
I've hunted groundhogs with a 30-30 Winchester (110 gr Speer hollowpoints over a max load of powder) and a 22 LR and stalking them. If you can sneak up on a groundhog you can sneak up on anything! Excellent practice, as well as 100yd 22LR shooting, altho it usually was more like 20 yds when I shot them with the 22.
The 30-30 literally turns them inside out too! Best hit was about 250 yds with the 30-30, after a couple of ranging shots, the little rat ran from the dirt flying up but kept coming back out as he never saw what was making it fly! Was his last mistake.
Back in my youth the county actually paid a 25 cent bounty for each groundhog scalp presented at the courthouse. I did my best to protect soybeans and alfalfa fields. My longest shot was offhand across 75 rows of beans planted about 30 inches apart. The shortest was less than 10 yds. It took a week's pay of nursing dairy cattle to pay for my Marlin 989 M2 but it was worth every penny.
Round here, we pick of cotten-tails with 22's. The farther you let the critter get before helping control the population, the more you get to brag! HA! We used to throw rocks at them just to get them to run because a sitting rabbit was just to easy.
To MJC: "Many years ago I realized that I was a fool, and would always be a fool, and since then I have been happier than any man has a right to be."--Alistair Sim
22-250 is one of the all time great rounds.
I can't imagine DEP owning a rifle that “…would be embarrassing to take to a dump and shoot rats.” Be that as it may, that is one fine looking varmit rig, from what I can make out in the picture. How about a close up?
The background there is making me homesick for my native VA mountains. For the past two years I have lived in the coastal plains of NC where groundhog numbers are between few and non-existent.
I've seen the old fart to the left of you that owns the rifle. Can't place the face...hmmm.
Good to see Jim gets out and retired for want not reason.
How lucky can you be to get to shoot groundhogs with Jim and with his rifle to boot? I am envious. What kind of ranges were you shooting at?
Pbhead,
Around here there was a two store, one house place in the road that on Sunday mornings men would come and bring in the game they had trapped during the preceding week, body guts and all. As the men would deposit their take on a pyramid of animals they would be issued a tag for the money they should get for their take. That was quite a site and experience for a young boy just coming back from church.
Sounds like you had fun Dave,but I prefer busting clays on hot summer days.
If I could swing it, I like to take Dave and a few others out to New Mexico for a Coyote and Jack Rabbit hunt and bring plenty of ammo; you’ll need it and don’t forget the film crew from VS and the Outdoor Channel it will be worth it!!
Dave, YOU are the guy with the dream job (see prior post). Yeah, yeah, you have deadlines, advertisers, and screwy editors to deal with. Suck it up, man!
That aside, that is the toughest accuracy standard I've ever heard of a rifle being expected to handle. Even one that weighs fifteen pounds.
That's quite the crew. You run into interesting people doing interesting things. That tripod reminds me of the ones used to hold up old military spotting scopes.
This also reminds me of something else - a guy at a local gun shop said his favorite groundhog round is a .358 Win with a .35 cal HP pistol bullet. The bullets scream and fragment, and the groundhogs don't feel a thing. Been thinking of trying that with my .35 Whelen.
I always told my kid that we used to shoot groundhogs in Mississippi with .357 revolvers. Last week we traveled to the hill country in search of a few for him to cap with the old S & W since he has shot his share of Wyoming p-dawgs with a .22-.250 custom rifle. There were no ground hogs in the area that I could locate but there was one of the new housing developments that have sprung up like mushrooms all over the country around Oxford, MS. Looks like DEP, Jim, et al had better luck.
Summer's not over Dave. What else you doing?
can't believe you were fraternizing with an Outdoor Life writer. what would Lefty say? (just kidding, I know you and Jim are friends.)
nice to see the old guy again. now, if we could only bring back Bob Brister and Finn Aagard... but obviously that's asking too much.
here's to more summers spent shooting varmints with accurate rifles in the company of friends.
Old Blood and Guts. General Patton tribute?
I can't believe Jim would let you shoot something less than a .220 Swift.
To All: I'm reasonably ashamed to say that no one shot a single earth swine at more than 150 yards which, for the rifles we had, were point-blank. No one popped up to get killed any farther away.
The other thing I'm doing this summer is shooting in a trap league, which gives me a chance to see just how much time has robbed me of my skills, which is a lot.
Hey Dave , let those critters get out a little farther the next time, they look awful close... Just kidding...
cliff68, the hogs were right where you see them., looks like about 6'
Delightful post...I live in the Old Dominion, and have found it a great place to live. I hear shooting all year 'round, and it only bothers the folks who move here from the cities 'Nawth' of us.
Sounds like a great vacation---hope you can write it off as a 'working' vacation. Try to look miserable when you return to the office, but I doubt you will fool anyone. Loved the Sims quote, and your own repetition early on.
It's interesting what an old gun scribe will do when it comes to a 'favorite' rifle. I'll bet Old B&G could tell a few tales. I have a couple, myself, but with skinnier barrels.
You are something else, Petzal. Power to you.
Blue
Y'all come on back now, hear?
Getting older sucks, don't it Dave?
Remember when we were kids and couldn't wait to grow up?
WHAT Were We Thinking?!?!?!?!?!
Carmichael needs to be back home in Jonesborough scouting Wapiti for that one permit that's for sale... why haven't you talked F&S into it Dave? You've got a guide and I'll bet he wouldn't shoot rats in a dump with your .338 either.
I have sabots made at 30 caliber. Insert a .22 cal. bullet and load in a 308 and it makes a great long range varmint rig.
Silvertip
To be out in the wide open space is a thrill hunting anything or just plinking. We hav many groundhogs and I use Marlin 22 WM with a 50mm scope. It does great out to l75 yds an maybe 200. If beyond that I use the 25-06. Always wanted a 223, but can;t have all of them. Just need to use what I got for the rmaining years I have left to hunt. AT 74, one never knows when his last hunt has come. I don;t live to far from where this Photo was made, just south of the Blue Ridge in N.C.Will miss the Rocky Mtn hunt this year as was not feeling up to par and never applied for any Rockie Mtn hunts. Will just hunt some o the many w-tails we got here. With our food plot and mineral blocks they continue to come each year. Last yr got a nice 9 and Son got two great 8's. Now will only shoot trophies, as Den wall full. Got a spotted deer on my place, I'd like a shot at him. Hopefully the poaches we got wan;t see him till I do. Shoot-um-straight and often.
Dave, That scenery look a little familiar. I spent several summers back in the late 60's walking the hills and shooting hogs in Albemarle County, Va. but that was before Rt. 64 cut the farm in half and ruined my hunting grounds.
Dave, That scenery look a little familiar. I spent several summers back in the late 60's walking the hills and shooting hogs in Albemarle County, Va. but that was before Rt. 64 cut the farm in half and ruined my hunting grounds.
Looks like you had some fun... glad you had some good shooting. Funny how that actually does make up a good groundhog rifle... shooting really fast. What rifle were you going to use (that would be a embarassment to shoot rats at a dump)?
Dave, i didn't realize that you paid so much attention to the blog, or that you were a smart-alek. Kudos. Sorry fo the double post. I never do that.
My daddy used to take me out on Groundhog Day for the same purpose. The Blue Rudge mountains were a lot colder that time of year and the varmints weren't out and about. So we'd drink some homemade apple brandy and sit and talk.I learnt a lot about my dad and life. I'm his eldest daughter and he'd check me out of high school. I will always have a special place in my heart for groundhogs!
It is great to see people having fun groundhog hunting, not matter what they are shooting with! Though my rig is not quite as sophisticated as the one shown, I hunt groundhogs a lot and have fun doing it! Good shooting!
Mr Petzal...don't worry about the "short range shots"!
Take 'em where you get 'em!
Good shooting with good friends, can't ask for anything better!
Gunslinger, If you would like a .223, you should try the .204 Ruger...
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To Steve 182: It is a good way to spend a summer's day. It is a good way to spend a summer's day.
My daddy used to take me out on Groundhog Day for the same purpose. The Blue Rudge mountains were a lot colder that time of year and the varmints weren't out and about. So we'd drink some homemade apple brandy and sit and talk.I learnt a lot about my dad and life. I'm his eldest daughter and he'd check me out of high school. I will always have a special place in my heart for groundhogs!
Go get 'em, DEP! Groundhog hunting has suffered greatly in our area, too many folks with nothing else to do but haunt the back 40 while others are working. I know, sour grapes...............
To MJC: "Many years ago I realized that I was a fool, and would always be a fool, and since then I have been happier than any man has a right to be."--Alistair Sim
If I could swing it, I like to take Dave and a few others out to New Mexico for a Coyote and Jack Rabbit hunt and bring plenty of ammo; you’ll need it and don’t forget the film crew from VS and the Outdoor Channel it will be worth it!!
That's quite the crew. You run into interesting people doing interesting things. That tripod reminds me of the ones used to hold up old military spotting scopes.
This also reminds me of something else - a guy at a local gun shop said his favorite groundhog round is a .358 Win with a .35 cal HP pistol bullet. The bullets scream and fragment, and the groundhogs don't feel a thing. Been thinking of trying that with my .35 Whelen.
Summer's not over Dave. What else you doing?
can't believe you were fraternizing with an Outdoor Life writer. what would Lefty say? (just kidding, I know you and Jim are friends.)
nice to see the old guy again. now, if we could only bring back Bob Brister and Finn Aagard... but obviously that's asking too much.
here's to more summers spent shooting varmints with accurate rifles in the company of friends.
Dave,
Impressive rifle and heckova shooting rest you got there. Dang, I was just about to order one of the ER Shaw rifles in 22-250. You know the ones that shoot tiny one hole groups (according to DEP). Now you've gone and mucked up the decision for me.
Just kidding, I still want the Shaw rifle.
Looks like a good way to spend a summer day.
Looks like a good way to spend a summer day.
DEP- Perhaps the most endearing quality to your writing (and your responses to reader comments like the one above) is your willingness to be a complete jerk.
May I grow old enough to enjoy such privileges!
I've hunted groundhogs with a 30-30 Winchester (110 gr Speer hollowpoints over a max load of powder) and a 22 LR and stalking them. If you can sneak up on a groundhog you can sneak up on anything! Excellent practice, as well as 100yd 22LR shooting, altho it usually was more like 20 yds when I shot them with the 22.
The 30-30 literally turns them inside out too! Best hit was about 250 yds with the 30-30, after a couple of ranging shots, the little rat ran from the dirt flying up but kept coming back out as he never saw what was making it fly! Was his last mistake.
Back in my youth the county actually paid a 25 cent bounty for each groundhog scalp presented at the courthouse. I did my best to protect soybeans and alfalfa fields. My longest shot was offhand across 75 rows of beans planted about 30 inches apart. The shortest was less than 10 yds. It took a week's pay of nursing dairy cattle to pay for my Marlin 989 M2 but it was worth every penny.
Round here, we pick of cotten-tails with 22's. The farther you let the critter get before helping control the population, the more you get to brag! HA! We used to throw rocks at them just to get them to run because a sitting rabbit was just to easy.
22-250 is one of the all time great rounds.
I can't imagine DEP owning a rifle that “…would be embarrassing to take to a dump and shoot rats.” Be that as it may, that is one fine looking varmit rig, from what I can make out in the picture. How about a close up?
The background there is making me homesick for my native VA mountains. For the past two years I have lived in the coastal plains of NC where groundhog numbers are between few and non-existent.
I've seen the old fart to the left of you that owns the rifle. Can't place the face...hmmm.
Good to see Jim gets out and retired for want not reason.
How lucky can you be to get to shoot groundhogs with Jim and with his rifle to boot? I am envious. What kind of ranges were you shooting at?
Pbhead,
Around here there was a two store, one house place in the road that on Sunday mornings men would come and bring in the game they had trapped during the preceding week, body guts and all. As the men would deposit their take on a pyramid of animals they would be issued a tag for the money they should get for their take. That was quite a site and experience for a young boy just coming back from church.
Sounds like you had fun Dave,but I prefer busting clays on hot summer days.
Dave, YOU are the guy with the dream job (see prior post). Yeah, yeah, you have deadlines, advertisers, and screwy editors to deal with. Suck it up, man!
That aside, that is the toughest accuracy standard I've ever heard of a rifle being expected to handle. Even one that weighs fifteen pounds.
I always told my kid that we used to shoot groundhogs in Mississippi with .357 revolvers. Last week we traveled to the hill country in search of a few for him to cap with the old S & W since he has shot his share of Wyoming p-dawgs with a .22-.250 custom rifle. There were no ground hogs in the area that I could locate but there was one of the new housing developments that have sprung up like mushrooms all over the country around Oxford, MS. Looks like DEP, Jim, et al had better luck.
Old Blood and Guts. General Patton tribute?
I can't believe Jim would let you shoot something less than a .220 Swift.
To All: I'm reasonably ashamed to say that no one shot a single earth swine at more than 150 yards which, for the rifles we had, were point-blank. No one popped up to get killed any farther away.
The other thing I'm doing this summer is shooting in a trap league, which gives me a chance to see just how much time has robbed me of my skills, which is a lot.
Hey Dave , let those critters get out a little farther the next time, they look awful close... Just kidding...
cliff68, the hogs were right where you see them., looks like about 6'
Delightful post...I live in the Old Dominion, and have found it a great place to live. I hear shooting all year 'round, and it only bothers the folks who move here from the cities 'Nawth' of us.
Sounds like a great vacation---hope you can write it off as a 'working' vacation. Try to look miserable when you return to the office, but I doubt you will fool anyone. Loved the Sims quote, and your own repetition early on.
It's interesting what an old gun scribe will do when it comes to a 'favorite' rifle. I'll bet Old B&G could tell a few tales. I have a couple, myself, but with skinnier barrels.
You are something else, Petzal. Power to you.
Blue
Y'all come on back now, hear?
Getting older sucks, don't it Dave?
Remember when we were kids and couldn't wait to grow up?
WHAT Were We Thinking?!?!?!?!?!
Carmichael needs to be back home in Jonesborough scouting Wapiti for that one permit that's for sale... why haven't you talked F&S into it Dave? You've got a guide and I'll bet he wouldn't shoot rats in a dump with your .338 either.
I have sabots made at 30 caliber. Insert a .22 cal. bullet and load in a 308 and it makes a great long range varmint rig.
Silvertip
To be out in the wide open space is a thrill hunting anything or just plinking. We hav many groundhogs and I use Marlin 22 WM with a 50mm scope. It does great out to l75 yds an maybe 200. If beyond that I use the 25-06. Always wanted a 223, but can;t have all of them. Just need to use what I got for the rmaining years I have left to hunt. AT 74, one never knows when his last hunt has come. I don;t live to far from where this Photo was made, just south of the Blue Ridge in N.C.Will miss the Rocky Mtn hunt this year as was not feeling up to par and never applied for any Rockie Mtn hunts. Will just hunt some o the many w-tails we got here. With our food plot and mineral blocks they continue to come each year. Last yr got a nice 9 and Son got two great 8's. Now will only shoot trophies, as Den wall full. Got a spotted deer on my place, I'd like a shot at him. Hopefully the poaches we got wan;t see him till I do. Shoot-um-straight and often.
Dave, That scenery look a little familiar. I spent several summers back in the late 60's walking the hills and shooting hogs in Albemarle County, Va. but that was before Rt. 64 cut the farm in half and ruined my hunting grounds.
Dave, That scenery look a little familiar. I spent several summers back in the late 60's walking the hills and shooting hogs in Albemarle County, Va. but that was before Rt. 64 cut the farm in half and ruined my hunting grounds.
Looks like you had some fun... glad you had some good shooting. Funny how that actually does make up a good groundhog rifle... shooting really fast. What rifle were you going to use (that would be a embarassment to shoot rats at a dump)?
Dave, i didn't realize that you paid so much attention to the blog, or that you were a smart-alek. Kudos. Sorry fo the double post. I never do that.
It is great to see people having fun groundhog hunting, not matter what they are shooting with! Though my rig is not quite as sophisticated as the one shown, I hunt groundhogs a lot and have fun doing it! Good shooting!
Mr Petzal...don't worry about the "short range shots"!
Take 'em where you get 'em!
Good shooting with good friends, can't ask for anything better!
Gunslinger, If you would like a .223, you should try the .204 Ruger...
capture your moment in history with the enduring leagacy of art. chad lavin studio. www.lavinstudio.com
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