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October 20, 2009
Petzal: Five Shots in One Hole
If you have any doubt that we live in the best of all possible worlds, take a look at this. The five (yes, five) shots in the single hole in the bull were put there during the NBRSA Nationals in St. Louis. They were fired by a contractor from California named Tom Libby, and his rifle of choice was a 6 PPC. The group measures .093-inch, and the big sockdolaper is, it was shot at 200 yards.
I am indebted to Mr. M. Coleman, gunsmith, raconteur, and philosopher, for the photo and the info.
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HA Nice! I think Mr Libby gets a gold star for that one. Short and SWEET post today BTW.
wow, thats a tight group, betcha he spends alot more time at the range than I do.
He might be able to fix that by adjusting he scope. It can be really embarassing at the range when you shoot all your bullets through the same hole. Everyone thinks you only hit the target once. And then when you try and explain what happened they all look at you like your lying. I've learned to ignore them and silently enjoy the victory.
You could say a lot of things. They all fall short. Congrats, Tom Libby.
I couldn't get that from 2 feet let alone 200 yards. That's awesome.
I agree with ENO. A little more work and Mr. Libby might actually be a pretty good shot.
:)
Wow! Double wow! Triple wow! 5 wows!
Dave,
If you ever want to do an article on the worst shooter. Please call.
Now thats a modern day marksman!
Back in the '70s I knew a guy name Bill Wilkinson who lived on butte called Kyle, which is near Medicine Bow, Wyoming--way out in the middle of nowhere. He showed me a 200-yard group of his that he said was the world record at one time with a light sporter class bench rifle. I don't remember the caliber he used or the measurements of the group, but it was one ragged hole, something under one-quarter inch. Bill worked for Marathon Oil at the time and did some trigger work for me. I have no idea where he is today, or if he is still living. He'd be in his 80s by now. But I was impressed by that tiny group. Seems to me it was a ten-shot group, but I could be wrong on that.
That is awesome, I can hardly hit the target five times! And nice Voltaire reference Mr. Petzal
Wow! That's some fine shooting, and undoubtedly one helluva' custom rifle/load combo
Did Mr Libby win? Rumor has it two or three of us were close.
This group is quite amazing..it would be interesting to know how many times it has been actually done? This guy has got to shoot often, and his handloads must be custom loaded by GOD himself!Maybe God made the gun, too?
Is he any relation to Scooter Libby? I don't know about you guys but I can't wait for Coop"s comment on this one.
So how about a picture of the rifle Dave... just for folks like me who love to covet thy neighbor's gun. Is there such a thing as an indoor 200 yard range or did Mr. Libby (hereafter known as "the man") actually perform this feat with wind, sun, gravitational forces ebbing and flowing with the tides and other lesser beings firing at the same time? Absolutely incredible. The only saving grace is that when faced with a 180 class buck I feel certain he will wet himself and come down with a case of the quaking palsies. We can only hope.
Do you have the Savage LRPVDP doing this at 100 yet?
Wow, that's some fine shooting. I couldn't even get a group that small with one shot! lol
If the technology to determine that, indeed, this shooter made all these holes had existed in 1912 then George Patton would have won the first Pentathalon at the Olympics. Great shooting by Mr. Libby.
i used to think that those kind of groups were only for a very few select people and match rifles that spent cubic dollars on equipment and practice. like i said, i USED to think that way. until last week when i shot my first ever sub-moa 5 shot group measuring 0.462" @100 yds. with my box stock (other than a trigger adjustment) 1980's vintage remington 700 - 300 win mag. and i did it with cast lee bullets. it was a simple "everything just fell into place" thing. i had not intentionally set out to get a group like that. in fact, it was only my third attempt at making up a reduced cast bullet load for this rifle. i did keep good records, so i can make more of these up. but, other than punching holes in a target, they are of little real world use. their velocity was quite low, and they were impacting about 5" below the point of aim. still, it let me know what the rifle itself is capable of. i just need to find the right load to make it work.
Very impressive!
Good shooting bi’golly!
The perfection of materials and components have come a long way and even Muzzleloaders like my Savage Model 10MLBSS-II is more accurate than a lot of rifle I’ve fired.
Hey Walt,
We always joked on the line about shooting a 3 shot clover leaf and dumping the rest over the target! I’m confident they made sure this wasn’t the case and more in likely they had electronic scoring.
I've shot one-shot groups that were bigger than .093".
A one hole grouping that is centered on the target.
Thats what I've always tried for, but never accomplished.
Atta boy mister Libby
Don't make him mad!
how many times has mr. libby done this? did he train with the military to get that good? very impressive!
I still want to see the gun. I'm sure it is unrecognizable to the common man and probably weighs over 14 pounds but the scope and mounts are what interest me. They seem to cause me problems from time to time.
And I forgot to mention the shots are dead center bull, which just adds insult to injury to a hacker like me. Congratulations Tom, you have obviously done your homework and put in the hours and sweat to perform such a feat. As Edison said "genius is 99% persperation and 1% inspiration"... or some reasonable facsilmile. I bet the rifle cost more than my new Chevy Silverado, but I will drown my sorrows in Golden, Colorado's finest brew.
The group dead center of the target reminds me the day at the Whittington Center in Raton New Mexico at the Regional’s. Things were looking really good and the possibility of wining the match looked very good. I didn’t notice what I did as I bent down to get another round, I moved my right foot to my left. As I came back up on target and as the rifle recoiled and rolled slightly to the right, target 16 appeared not target 15 O”SNIT! I immediately turned to the shooter on my right and yelled “SHOOT MAN”SHOOT!” as his target went down; he gave me a dirty look until the target came back up. “DEAD CENTER “X” RING”! If he would have shot, those ten points would have won him the match for the Sharpshooter Class, but cost me 10 points and losing the Regional’s! After the match, the Shooter on 16 walked up and said he wished he would have pulled the trigger!
O”Well, I had fun!
Not a question of "IF" when you do something stupid, it's a question of "WHEN"! LOL!!
That is one mean hole puncher he's got their. It can also double as a paper weight I'm sure when he is not putting holes in paper.
Awesome. I once had a rifle I could hunt butterflies with at 200 yards; this guy can hunt mosquitoes at 200 yards with his!!!
Looking forward to the 'trickle down effect' from his gun to ours!
ya thats some seriously good shooting! (think i could get my shotgun to shoot slugs like that?)LOL now that would be nice!
i love this quote and everyone else should to
Dear Mrs. Libby: If you ever get divorced or really angry at him, or if anything ever happens to Mr. Libby, (GOD forbid) PLEASE look me up. I promise I could give his rifle a wonderful and loving home. Sincerely, OKDuckHunter.
Quite amazing...snd something I thought not possible. Aside from the extraordinary skill of Mr. Libby, what a kudu to our 21st-century equipment!
I wish i could do that!!!!!
Pratice and a qualty firearm and ammo is the secret. Shoot-um-straight and often. You don;t need to break the bank to have a firearm that shoots well, just lots of pratice and Ammo. But, when I zero or pratice i shot for the bulls eye. That is my gauge to determine where my gun will shoot. If it shoots 5" or more above the Bulls eye and you aiming for the Bull, then then firearm s not zeroed proper or something is wrong. That animal you shoot at will not be a target with the Bull marked where you aim. To me the Bull 's eye is your intended target and if you can;t shot it or close to it, your gun is not zeroed in proper.Maybe I did not see the shots ( not perfect vision) but the shots were left upper 6-7" above the Bull's eye of the target?????. Where was the shooter aiming? the Bull's eye or etc.If the Bull was the intended target, then the rifle is not shooting to his point of aim, even if all 5 shots hit the same hole, they missed the intendd Bull eye. As i stated earlier, when I zero or pratice, the Bull's eye is my target and until I can put the shot in the Bull's eye its not zeroed proper. If the Bull 's eye is not the reference point for accuracy, what is the point in having a Bulls eye on a piece of paper, just shot at the paper. Good hunting to all and wish you much success. PS I zero all my hunting firearms at 200 yds which is about 3" above the center of the Bull at 100 yds. I'm not one to say its dead on by it shooting 2" high at 100 yds. Bullets do strange things after the 100 yard mark. With todays fine bullets, that extra l00 yds could mean a hit or miss on your animal if its 200+ yards away and you have not zeroed and praticed at distance. Again, shoot the BULL's eye at what-ever distance you gonna be shooting when hunting,. The Target in question, if those shots were at 200 yards or less, then the hunter/shooter would have missed theVitals on a small deer and possible on a Elk.
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He might be able to fix that by adjusting he scope. It can be really embarassing at the range when you shoot all your bullets through the same hole. Everyone thinks you only hit the target once. And then when you try and explain what happened they all look at you like your lying. I've learned to ignore them and silently enjoy the victory.
This group is quite amazing..it would be interesting to know how many times it has been actually done? This guy has got to shoot often, and his handloads must be custom loaded by GOD himself!Maybe God made the gun, too?
Is he any relation to Scooter Libby? I don't know about you guys but I can't wait for Coop"s comment on this one.
HA Nice! I think Mr Libby gets a gold star for that one. Short and SWEET post today BTW.
wow, thats a tight group, betcha he spends alot more time at the range than I do.
You could say a lot of things. They all fall short. Congrats, Tom Libby.
I couldn't get that from 2 feet let alone 200 yards. That's awesome.
Now thats a modern day marksman!
Back in the '70s I knew a guy name Bill Wilkinson who lived on butte called Kyle, which is near Medicine Bow, Wyoming--way out in the middle of nowhere. He showed me a 200-yard group of his that he said was the world record at one time with a light sporter class bench rifle. I don't remember the caliber he used or the measurements of the group, but it was one ragged hole, something under one-quarter inch. Bill worked for Marathon Oil at the time and did some trigger work for me. I have no idea where he is today, or if he is still living. He'd be in his 80s by now. But I was impressed by that tiny group. Seems to me it was a ten-shot group, but I could be wrong on that.
That is awesome, I can hardly hit the target five times! And nice Voltaire reference Mr. Petzal
Wow! That's some fine shooting, and undoubtedly one helluva' custom rifle/load combo
Did Mr Libby win? Rumor has it two or three of us were close.
So how about a picture of the rifle Dave... just for folks like me who love to covet thy neighbor's gun. Is there such a thing as an indoor 200 yard range or did Mr. Libby (hereafter known as "the man") actually perform this feat with wind, sun, gravitational forces ebbing and flowing with the tides and other lesser beings firing at the same time? Absolutely incredible. The only saving grace is that when faced with a 180 class buck I feel certain he will wet himself and come down with a case of the quaking palsies. We can only hope.
Awesome. I once had a rifle I could hunt butterflies with at 200 yards; this guy can hunt mosquitoes at 200 yards with his!!!
Looking forward to the 'trickle down effect' from his gun to ours!
I agree with ENO. A little more work and Mr. Libby might actually be a pretty good shot.
:)
Wow! Double wow! Triple wow! 5 wows!
Dave,
If you ever want to do an article on the worst shooter. Please call.
A one hole grouping that is centered on the target.
Thats what I've always tried for, but never accomplished.
Atta boy mister Libby
Do you have the Savage LRPVDP doing this at 100 yet?
Wow, that's some fine shooting. I couldn't even get a group that small with one shot! lol
If the technology to determine that, indeed, this shooter made all these holes had existed in 1912 then George Patton would have won the first Pentathalon at the Olympics. Great shooting by Mr. Libby.
i used to think that those kind of groups were only for a very few select people and match rifles that spent cubic dollars on equipment and practice. like i said, i USED to think that way. until last week when i shot my first ever sub-moa 5 shot group measuring 0.462" @100 yds. with my box stock (other than a trigger adjustment) 1980's vintage remington 700 - 300 win mag. and i did it with cast lee bullets. it was a simple "everything just fell into place" thing. i had not intentionally set out to get a group like that. in fact, it was only my third attempt at making up a reduced cast bullet load for this rifle. i did keep good records, so i can make more of these up. but, other than punching holes in a target, they are of little real world use. their velocity was quite low, and they were impacting about 5" below the point of aim. still, it let me know what the rifle itself is capable of. i just need to find the right load to make it work.
I've shot one-shot groups that were bigger than .093".
i love this quote and everyone else should to
Very impressive!
Good shooting bi’golly!
The perfection of materials and components have come a long way and even Muzzleloaders like my Savage Model 10MLBSS-II is more accurate than a lot of rifle I’ve fired.
Hey Walt,
We always joked on the line about shooting a 3 shot clover leaf and dumping the rest over the target! I’m confident they made sure this wasn’t the case and more in likely they had electronic scoring.
Don't make him mad!
how many times has mr. libby done this? did he train with the military to get that good? very impressive!
I still want to see the gun. I'm sure it is unrecognizable to the common man and probably weighs over 14 pounds but the scope and mounts are what interest me. They seem to cause me problems from time to time.
And I forgot to mention the shots are dead center bull, which just adds insult to injury to a hacker like me. Congratulations Tom, you have obviously done your homework and put in the hours and sweat to perform such a feat. As Edison said "genius is 99% persperation and 1% inspiration"... or some reasonable facsilmile. I bet the rifle cost more than my new Chevy Silverado, but I will drown my sorrows in Golden, Colorado's finest brew.
The group dead center of the target reminds me the day at the Whittington Center in Raton New Mexico at the Regional’s. Things were looking really good and the possibility of wining the match looked very good. I didn’t notice what I did as I bent down to get another round, I moved my right foot to my left. As I came back up on target and as the rifle recoiled and rolled slightly to the right, target 16 appeared not target 15 O”SNIT! I immediately turned to the shooter on my right and yelled “SHOOT MAN”SHOOT!” as his target went down; he gave me a dirty look until the target came back up. “DEAD CENTER “X” RING”! If he would have shot, those ten points would have won him the match for the Sharpshooter Class, but cost me 10 points and losing the Regional’s! After the match, the Shooter on 16 walked up and said he wished he would have pulled the trigger!
O”Well, I had fun!
Not a question of "IF" when you do something stupid, it's a question of "WHEN"! LOL!!
That is one mean hole puncher he's got their. It can also double as a paper weight I'm sure when he is not putting holes in paper.
ya thats some seriously good shooting! (think i could get my shotgun to shoot slugs like that?)LOL now that would be nice!
Dear Mrs. Libby: If you ever get divorced or really angry at him, or if anything ever happens to Mr. Libby, (GOD forbid) PLEASE look me up. I promise I could give his rifle a wonderful and loving home. Sincerely, OKDuckHunter.
Quite amazing...snd something I thought not possible. Aside from the extraordinary skill of Mr. Libby, what a kudu to our 21st-century equipment!
I wish i could do that!!!!!
Pratice and a qualty firearm and ammo is the secret. Shoot-um-straight and often. You don;t need to break the bank to have a firearm that shoots well, just lots of pratice and Ammo. But, when I zero or pratice i shot for the bulls eye. That is my gauge to determine where my gun will shoot. If it shoots 5" or more above the Bulls eye and you aiming for the Bull, then then firearm s not zeroed proper or something is wrong. That animal you shoot at will not be a target with the Bull marked where you aim. To me the Bull 's eye is your intended target and if you can;t shot it or close to it, your gun is not zeroed in proper.Maybe I did not see the shots ( not perfect vision) but the shots were left upper 6-7" above the Bull's eye of the target?????. Where was the shooter aiming? the Bull's eye or etc.If the Bull was the intended target, then the rifle is not shooting to his point of aim, even if all 5 shots hit the same hole, they missed the intendd Bull eye. As i stated earlier, when I zero or pratice, the Bull's eye is my target and until I can put the shot in the Bull's eye its not zeroed proper. If the Bull 's eye is not the reference point for accuracy, what is the point in having a Bulls eye on a piece of paper, just shot at the paper. Good hunting to all and wish you much success. PS I zero all my hunting firearms at 200 yds which is about 3" above the center of the Bull at 100 yds. I'm not one to say its dead on by it shooting 2" high at 100 yds. Bullets do strange things after the 100 yard mark. With todays fine bullets, that extra l00 yds could mean a hit or miss on your animal if its 200+ yards away and you have not zeroed and praticed at distance. Again, shoot the BULL's eye at what-ever distance you gonna be shooting when hunting,. The Target in question, if those shots were at 200 yards or less, then the hunter/shooter would have missed theVitals on a small deer and possible on a Elk.
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