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February 15, 2010

Merwin: What's The Big Deal About Lead Sinker Bans?

By John Merwin

A recent proposal in Washington state to ban certain lead fishing weights has brought a surprising flurry of opposition. Surprising to me, anyway. I live and fish in a state (Vermont) where lead sinkers of 0.5-ounce and lighter are banned. This seems like no big deal. And I’m not sure why it’s so controversial.

I already use non-toxic, tin split shot if I need a tiny weight on a flyfishing leader. And I use tungsten worm weights that work much better than lead versions when bass fishing (yes, they’re more expensive). I continue to use lead-head jigs because they’re still legal where I fish, but there are lots of non-lead jighead options, too.

Getting the lead out, as one slogan goes, is supposed to be a way of protecting loons that might otherwise be poisoned when they accidentally pick up and eat a sinker or two off the bottom. I like watching and hearing loons. Making some minor change in my tackle to help protect them seems like a no-brainer. Note that here, at least, heavier sinkers are still legal along with lead-core trolling line and weighted lures or flies, so the necessary (by law) change isn’t as great as it might be. New York, New Hampshire, and Maine are other states that now restrict lead-sinker use.

Lead sinkers have long been an issue in Minnesota, which does not yet have a ban but does have an exceptional public-information program. You can read about lead-sinker issues and find numerous lead alternatives at the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency’s excellent website, which is well worth a look.

Meanwhile, back in Washington state, the proposal is still pending. It has drawn loud opposition from groups such as the national fishing-industry trade association and B.A.S.S.. But what do you think? Is this just another example of unnecessary governmental intrusion or of environmental groups gone haywire? Or are lead sinkers a legitimate concern? Could you fish adequately with lead substitutes? And would you?

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from Izzy2011 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I'm split on the issue. On one hand, most of my tackle (and some of my favorite lures) comtain lead. On the other, I am not aiming to harm the environment and lead alternatives work just as well if not better. It's a tough call to make. Maybe a sales ban on lead lures would be more effective?

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from beetlespin53 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

This just seems like a slippery slope of new regulation. first bullets and now this? I really enjoy making custom lead jigs for walleye fishing. I also enjoy making my own musky bucktails that have lead molded into them. Is there another material we can use to melt and mold or will all fishing tackle have to be made by factories that can process tungstem or other similar metals?

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from Alex Pernice th... wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I would fish lead substitutes, if the states made a rebate program or somehow cheapened the price. I LOVE tungsten weights, but at 8 bucks for 1 1oz flippin' weight, thats a little hard for a 15 year old to get. If the state somehow made trade in program or something, where you would give them the lead gear you had in return for "Friendly" gear, I would be in for it. Problem is, stopping the use of lead won't solve anything for 50+ years. Lead doesn't magically disappear, it hangs around for awhile. Birds will still manage to eat it. If you really want to help the birds, stop using chemicals on lawns near the watersheds. Sure, your grass looks nice, but the birds that eat the pellets or swim in the runoff (When it rains) can be affected. I too enjoy the molding of lead jigs and lures, and some of my favorite lures, and almost all of my surf lures, contain some sort of lead. I have easily 10,000 jigs and lead "Jigging" spoons in my storage room waiting for either paint, or the right conditions to fish. I'm not just throwing away all of those if the state bans lead. To hell with them, Ill fish lead all I wish, the state doesn't realize there are bigger problems that lead sinkers.

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from workmandave wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Lead is some nasty stuff, look at the science behind it, lead ban makes sense, think of popular fishing spots, esp. along small streams, over the years, all that lead adds up can really impact the water.

I'm willing to switch out the tackle in my box so my kids can enjoy the waters someday

Have ban on lead based lures but cheapen the price on lead alt. stuff.

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from Teodoro wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

It's a great way to limit access to the sport. It strenghtens a nasty precedent. I don't want to hurt loons (birds) but I don't want loons (people) telling me what I can and can't do.

I picked up hunting as a teenager, with the help of a friend's family, but without a family history of hunting. You know the most challenging part? Learning the regulations, then finding equipment that I could afford and met those regulations. If you want people doing this, you need to keep it simple.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

It's interesting how many people are still carrying bullets in their bodies from being shot a many years ago and having no ill effects of lead. Surgeons said it was too risky to remove the bullet and over time, the slug would become encapsulated and post no harm.

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from stick500 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I live real close to a town called Leadmine in SW Wisconsin. How much naturally-occurring lead is in our streams and does that cause problems? That used to be the big industry around here.

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from Ethan3 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I think that they could start making alternatives to using lead, and just quit selling it, but not ban it. That way, we wouldn't have to replace every lead thing we have now, but it would reduce the lead a whole bunch. I think they should do what they can to help the environment, but they should still make cheap fishing gear that is easy to get.

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from jbird wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I think the groups opposing it see the writing on the wall. It's the "first step" if you ask me. If they pass this, then all tackle containing lead will be next, THEN the "cost factor" will make a HUGE impact on people's participation in the sport. Mr. Merwin, I have the UTMOST respect for you, and consider your fishing advice and tales as words from 'the master', but really, how much fishing gear do you have to actually buy these days? If you're not getting free stuff, you sould be. Tungsten is great, but the prices are rediculous, and if lead-bans progress, the fishing industry will be decimated. I'm all for protecting our environment, and I know lead is bad stuff, but there's tons and tons of it in the ground all around our streams,rivers and lakes, so I think the lead that gets left in waters from fishermen is a miniscule amount. Maybe I'm wrong, it's been known to happen;)

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from hengst wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

My only problem with anything enviro-friendly is the price. A SLIGHTLY more expensive alternative to go "green" is acceptable to me..It almost seems that enviro freaks are making money hand over fist in this. Right now Little Johnny can pick up some jig heads and mr twisters for a few bucks and he is catching fish..go green and he is in for 10 bucks or so We all know how easy it is to loose a jighead. I use the tungsten etc but at the prices I could not have when I was younger. Maybe the folks so "worried" about the enviroment should stop using it to make money (unrealistic, extortionist amounts)

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from Mark J wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

You know what, I've been asking the same question. I grew up here in Minnesota and have been using steel split shot all my life. I don't exactly burn through split shot so I don't really mind paying a couple bucks more a year to save some loons. They are our state bird and are pretty enjoyable to watch when the fish aren't biting. That being said I still use lead jig heads. Frankly I've never even seen any non-lead jig heads. I think a ban on selling lead fishing products is probably a good idea but like others on here I think there needs to be an effort to make non-lead alternatives available and affordable to the average angler before a lead ban is put in place.

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from BrookieBuster101 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

i dont think its a big deal at all. However the non led weights tend to be more pricey, at least in my experiences, but it is for a good cause. In reality what is 50 more cents?

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from Teodoro wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

50 cents more is the difference between Jonny, age 10, fishing and not fishing, like as not.

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from Bob81 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

"50 cents more is the difference between Jonny, age 10, fishing and not fishing, like as not."

Is this the same Jonny who just dropped $60 on an XBox 360 game?

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from jps wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

All regulations need to start somewhere, I suppose. People will be opposed because of the impact to convenience. But many destructive tendencies are inconvenient, and they've got to change sometime.
Lead substitutes are quite nice, but they are rather pricey.
A similar problem is for those who use older guns for waterfowl hunting-- steel shot loads can be rough on the barrels of certain guns, and substitutes are certainly available, but are also quite expensive.
It really comes down to how much one cares about these sports. Though my wallet may get emptied more quickly (I'm a student, it's not as if I have unlimited funds) when buying non-toxic shot, in sinker or shot-shell form, I feel much better knowing that I'm not doing something detrimental to the environment in which I love to fish and hunt.
Also, and importantly, if interest is shown in non-toxic alternatives, manufacturers might be more pressed to develop quality and economical options. Just a thought.

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from jakenbake wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Supply and demand always brings prices down. If lead gets banned you can be sure that Walmart will have low-priced lead-alternatives within a few months. The more people who are looking for non-lead products the more non-lead products are going to be made and the cheaper they'll be.

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from thecreeksideangler wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

When I was a young boy like "jonny" age 10, I tied a rock onto my line for a weight and used a cork for a bobber. I didn't have an X box, I didn't even have a tackle box, but I caught fish! Lead or non-lead we'll be O.K.

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from Cgull wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I dive rivers, you'd be surprised at how much lead I find. Most (80%)come from fishing and the rest (20%)from hunters

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from Sayfu wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Summing up my thoughts, I'm down on bad science, and most of it comes from the environmental left. Raising prices, anything to discourage hunting and fishing (ie) folks out killing, and even harassing game, and they want to eliminate them. They have an agenda for applying bad science.
The lead shot band for ducks and geese has been an unethical failure. 3 1/2 million ducks and geese in Canada and the USA fly away and die because of the use of steel shot. The negatives far outweigh the benefits.

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from folktrout wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Bad science? Seriously? The data is pretty convincing and conspiracy theorists need to quit complaining that this is some leftist slippery slope to keep you off the water.

I agree, supply and demand will change the prices, and there are so many and increasing alternatives, it shouldn't be a big deal. Perhaps start with a ban on sales, so you can keep using your old gear. That seems like a sound compromise.

If we love the outdoors and we love to fish and hunt, we need to work together to make sure all are protected.

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from riverdemon10 wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

I would like to point out that for hundreds of years lead sinkers have been used along with other lead products, without the effects causing drastic harm. Given the fact that there are more people fishing now than before, most of these people fish in large commercial bodies of water in the summer. I don't want to make it sound like I don't care about the environment; that is top on my list, but lead is the most practical thing for sinkers.

I don't know if anyone has used Eagle Claw's new weights (relatively new) but the split shots I had rusted shut after one humid day and the bullet weights rusted as well. I think regulations should be put in place where yes, some weights should be without lead, and also Tungsten should be lowered in price when the demand goes up. A lot more thought should be taken into affect instead of people just saying, "it's hurting the loons and it needs to be banned." Loons are some of the coolest birds on the water, don't get me wrong, but lead is in fact a natural occurring metal as it was said above and things seemed to work okay for millions of years before.

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from lukem wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

I'm doing just fine using steel shot waterfowling, maybe it's about time we start taking the lead out of fishing too. It's some pretty nasty stuff and you don't want it in your water.

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from dewy67 wrote 1 year 42 weeks ago

Lead costs 2.00/pound retail Bismuth 14.00/pound. Bismuth price will not come down it will actually go up because there is not much supply nor will there be.

Tungsten requires a 6192 °F furnace to melt vs 300 for lead. If this law passes alot of small fishing tackle business will be gone, and China will pick up the slack.

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from Izzy2011 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I'm split on the issue. On one hand, most of my tackle (and some of my favorite lures) comtain lead. On the other, I am not aiming to harm the environment and lead alternatives work just as well if not better. It's a tough call to make. Maybe a sales ban on lead lures would be more effective?

+3 Good Comment? | | Report
from beetlespin53 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

This just seems like a slippery slope of new regulation. first bullets and now this? I really enjoy making custom lead jigs for walleye fishing. I also enjoy making my own musky bucktails that have lead molded into them. Is there another material we can use to melt and mold or will all fishing tackle have to be made by factories that can process tungstem or other similar metals?

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from Alex Pernice th... wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I would fish lead substitutes, if the states made a rebate program or somehow cheapened the price. I LOVE tungsten weights, but at 8 bucks for 1 1oz flippin' weight, thats a little hard for a 15 year old to get. If the state somehow made trade in program or something, where you would give them the lead gear you had in return for "Friendly" gear, I would be in for it. Problem is, stopping the use of lead won't solve anything for 50+ years. Lead doesn't magically disappear, it hangs around for awhile. Birds will still manage to eat it. If you really want to help the birds, stop using chemicals on lawns near the watersheds. Sure, your grass looks nice, but the birds that eat the pellets or swim in the runoff (When it rains) can be affected. I too enjoy the molding of lead jigs and lures, and some of my favorite lures, and almost all of my surf lures, contain some sort of lead. I have easily 10,000 jigs and lead "Jigging" spoons in my storage room waiting for either paint, or the right conditions to fish. I'm not just throwing away all of those if the state bans lead. To hell with them, Ill fish lead all I wish, the state doesn't realize there are bigger problems that lead sinkers.

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from jbird wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I think the groups opposing it see the writing on the wall. It's the "first step" if you ask me. If they pass this, then all tackle containing lead will be next, THEN the "cost factor" will make a HUGE impact on people's participation in the sport. Mr. Merwin, I have the UTMOST respect for you, and consider your fishing advice and tales as words from 'the master', but really, how much fishing gear do you have to actually buy these days? If you're not getting free stuff, you sould be. Tungsten is great, but the prices are rediculous, and if lead-bans progress, the fishing industry will be decimated. I'm all for protecting our environment, and I know lead is bad stuff, but there's tons and tons of it in the ground all around our streams,rivers and lakes, so I think the lead that gets left in waters from fishermen is a miniscule amount. Maybe I'm wrong, it's been known to happen;)

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from hengst wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

My only problem with anything enviro-friendly is the price. A SLIGHTLY more expensive alternative to go "green" is acceptable to me..It almost seems that enviro freaks are making money hand over fist in this. Right now Little Johnny can pick up some jig heads and mr twisters for a few bucks and he is catching fish..go green and he is in for 10 bucks or so We all know how easy it is to loose a jighead. I use the tungsten etc but at the prices I could not have when I was younger. Maybe the folks so "worried" about the enviroment should stop using it to make money (unrealistic, extortionist amounts)

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from Teodoro wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

50 cents more is the difference between Jonny, age 10, fishing and not fishing, like as not.

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from workmandave wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Lead is some nasty stuff, look at the science behind it, lead ban makes sense, think of popular fishing spots, esp. along small streams, over the years, all that lead adds up can really impact the water.

I'm willing to switch out the tackle in my box so my kids can enjoy the waters someday

Have ban on lead based lures but cheapen the price on lead alt. stuff.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Teodoro wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

It's a great way to limit access to the sport. It strenghtens a nasty precedent. I don't want to hurt loons (birds) but I don't want loons (people) telling me what I can and can't do.

I picked up hunting as a teenager, with the help of a friend's family, but without a family history of hunting. You know the most challenging part? Learning the regulations, then finding equipment that I could afford and met those regulations. If you want people doing this, you need to keep it simple.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Clay Cooper wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

It's interesting how many people are still carrying bullets in their bodies from being shot a many years ago and having no ill effects of lead. Surgeons said it was too risky to remove the bullet and over time, the slug would become encapsulated and post no harm.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from stick500 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I live real close to a town called Leadmine in SW Wisconsin. How much naturally-occurring lead is in our streams and does that cause problems? That used to be the big industry around here.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Ethan3 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I think that they could start making alternatives to using lead, and just quit selling it, but not ban it. That way, we wouldn't have to replace every lead thing we have now, but it would reduce the lead a whole bunch. I think they should do what they can to help the environment, but they should still make cheap fishing gear that is easy to get.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Mark J wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

You know what, I've been asking the same question. I grew up here in Minnesota and have been using steel split shot all my life. I don't exactly burn through split shot so I don't really mind paying a couple bucks more a year to save some loons. They are our state bird and are pretty enjoyable to watch when the fish aren't biting. That being said I still use lead jig heads. Frankly I've never even seen any non-lead jig heads. I think a ban on selling lead fishing products is probably a good idea but like others on here I think there needs to be an effort to make non-lead alternatives available and affordable to the average angler before a lead ban is put in place.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from BrookieBuster101 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

i dont think its a big deal at all. However the non led weights tend to be more pricey, at least in my experiences, but it is for a good cause. In reality what is 50 more cents?

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Bob81 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

"50 cents more is the difference between Jonny, age 10, fishing and not fishing, like as not."

Is this the same Jonny who just dropped $60 on an XBox 360 game?

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from jps wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

All regulations need to start somewhere, I suppose. People will be opposed because of the impact to convenience. But many destructive tendencies are inconvenient, and they've got to change sometime.
Lead substitutes are quite nice, but they are rather pricey.
A similar problem is for those who use older guns for waterfowl hunting-- steel shot loads can be rough on the barrels of certain guns, and substitutes are certainly available, but are also quite expensive.
It really comes down to how much one cares about these sports. Though my wallet may get emptied more quickly (I'm a student, it's not as if I have unlimited funds) when buying non-toxic shot, in sinker or shot-shell form, I feel much better knowing that I'm not doing something detrimental to the environment in which I love to fish and hunt.
Also, and importantly, if interest is shown in non-toxic alternatives, manufacturers might be more pressed to develop quality and economical options. Just a thought.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from jakenbake wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Supply and demand always brings prices down. If lead gets banned you can be sure that Walmart will have low-priced lead-alternatives within a few months. The more people who are looking for non-lead products the more non-lead products are going to be made and the cheaper they'll be.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from thecreeksideangler wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

When I was a young boy like "jonny" age 10, I tied a rock onto my line for a weight and used a cork for a bobber. I didn't have an X box, I didn't even have a tackle box, but I caught fish! Lead or non-lead we'll be O.K.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Cgull wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I dive rivers, you'd be surprised at how much lead I find. Most (80%)come from fishing and the rest (20%)from hunters

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from Sayfu wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Summing up my thoughts, I'm down on bad science, and most of it comes from the environmental left. Raising prices, anything to discourage hunting and fishing (ie) folks out killing, and even harassing game, and they want to eliminate them. They have an agenda for applying bad science.
The lead shot band for ducks and geese has been an unethical failure. 3 1/2 million ducks and geese in Canada and the USA fly away and die because of the use of steel shot. The negatives far outweigh the benefits.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from folktrout wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Bad science? Seriously? The data is pretty convincing and conspiracy theorists need to quit complaining that this is some leftist slippery slope to keep you off the water.

I agree, supply and demand will change the prices, and there are so many and increasing alternatives, it shouldn't be a big deal. Perhaps start with a ban on sales, so you can keep using your old gear. That seems like a sound compromise.

If we love the outdoors and we love to fish and hunt, we need to work together to make sure all are protected.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from riverdemon10 wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

I would like to point out that for hundreds of years lead sinkers have been used along with other lead products, without the effects causing drastic harm. Given the fact that there are more people fishing now than before, most of these people fish in large commercial bodies of water in the summer. I don't want to make it sound like I don't care about the environment; that is top on my list, but lead is the most practical thing for sinkers.

I don't know if anyone has used Eagle Claw's new weights (relatively new) but the split shots I had rusted shut after one humid day and the bullet weights rusted as well. I think regulations should be put in place where yes, some weights should be without lead, and also Tungsten should be lowered in price when the demand goes up. A lot more thought should be taken into affect instead of people just saying, "it's hurting the loons and it needs to be banned." Loons are some of the coolest birds on the water, don't get me wrong, but lead is in fact a natural occurring metal as it was said above and things seemed to work okay for millions of years before.

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from lukem wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

I'm doing just fine using steel shot waterfowling, maybe it's about time we start taking the lead out of fishing too. It's some pretty nasty stuff and you don't want it in your water.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from dewy67 wrote 1 year 42 weeks ago

Lead costs 2.00/pound retail Bismuth 14.00/pound. Bismuth price will not come down it will actually go up because there is not much supply nor will there be.

Tungsten requires a 6192 °F furnace to melt vs 300 for lead. If this law passes alot of small fishing tackle business will be gone, and China will pick up the slack.

0 Good Comment? | | Report

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