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January 29, 2009

Cermele: If It Ain't Broke...

By Joe Cermele

Hardy Perfect

Take a look at this Hardy Perfect Reel. It just won Best in Show at the Denver Fly Show. Although the Perfect was introduced in 1893, this new one is modeled after the 1927 version. Do you know what's different about the new Perfect and the old one? Nothing. Same guts, same material, same milling process as the ones created back in 1920s ye old England. This really struck a chord with me, because it proves that good gear will always be good gear. While it's always exciting to see what modern technology will produce in the fishing world, wouldn't it be nice if more tackle companies reintroduced some stuff that anglers already know is rock solid?

I'll use Penn as an example. They've come out with some pretty innovative reels in recent years, yet cruise the fishing message boards and you'll see plenty of guys griping about the discontinuation of a bunch of their models. I paid $200 on eBay for a mint-condition Penn 704 Greenie because it's one of the best surf reels ever made. Why? Because the simple one ball-bearing design and minimal guts mean you can actually get a few grains of sand in it and not have to throw it away. It's a workhorse that even I can take apart and get back together. A few years ago, there was a baby buzz that Penn would reintroduce the Greenie, but I'm still waiting.

Are you still fishing a classic? Anything you want to see come back? I'll admit that I'm all about buying old tackle because there's something cool about fishing "vintage" gear that's more reliable than a lot of stuff on the market now. I'll leave you with a hot tip: If you are into old tackle, check out crazedlist.org. The site lets you search multiple Craigslist locations at the same time. I'm totally addicted.

JC

Penn Greenie

 

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from Charley wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

Daiwa black/gold reel. It will keep going and going.
Penn 309. They have been around forever and the new ones are no different than forty years ago. It's my favorite reel for lead core trout trolling.

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from Charley wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

The classics stay around because they have proven themselves generation after generation.

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from Joe_Cermele wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

But Charley, I'm saying a lot of classics that should still be around are long gone. The Penn greenie has proven itself and hasn't been around for decades.

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from MLH wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

I use a newer Abu-Garcia Ambassadeur 6000 and two Orvis CEOs.

My 35 year old Zebco 33 is all that's left of my old reels. My first 33 is probably still in the bottom of Acton Lake in SW Ohio. Not sure what happened to my first reel, a Zebco 202, or the old Shakespeare, Mitchell, and Dad's Penn. Not worth much but this 33 is going into a shadow box with lures I don't want lose. Lots of childhood memories there.

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from MLH wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

I use a newer Abu-Garcia Ambassadeur 6000 and two Orvis CEOs.

My 35 year old Zebco 33 is all that's left of my old reels. My first 33 is probably still in the bottom of Acton Lake in SW Ohio. Not sure what happened to my first reel, a Zebco 202, or the old Shakespeare, Mitchell, and Dad's Penn. Not worth much but this 33 is going into a shadow box with lures I don't want lose. Lots of childhood memories there.

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from dwaynez wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

I have an old Penn #9 and a daiwa millionaire I have had for quite some time, I also have some very old mitchell spinning reels that I really love to use.

They were handed down thru the family

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from Alex Pernice th... wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

Yea, I too have a zebco 33 my dad had from the 60 I think, and a Penn 55 trolling reel from the late 50's

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from Charley wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

Joe, thats true. Some classics have faded from the picture- who knows why?

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from chadlove wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

Great topic! One of my most cherished possessions is a late 70s-vintage Ambassadeur 5000c I paid $59 for in 1979, bought at the local TG&Y with carefully-hoarded tooth fairy and chores money. I still have the receipt.

Man, I can still remember lusting after that reel. While other eight-year-olds cruised the toy section I always had my face pressed against the sporting goods case.

Took me a while to learn how to cast it, and in the years since I have gone through literally hundreds of baitcasters but that one just keeps going and going.
Well, to be honest I've accumulated various other vintage 5000-series Abus and other than switching out handles they're all still original and going strong.

I'm always looking for vintage tackle and I hit the pawn shops pretty regularly. I will now be keeping my eyes peeled for Penn 704s...

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from buckhunter wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

I love fishing my old bamboo fly rods with ceramic reels as well as my old spun fiberglas Shakespeare fly rods with an automatic reel or using my Mitchell 300 to throw a wooden plug to a waiting bass.

I've been collecting old fishing tackle for years and enjoy the nostalgia. Picked up my first 3 fly rods in 1976 and never looked back.

But, if I want to cast a #12 Adams 40 feet to a rising trout behind a rock and between two tree limbs then fight him on 7x tippet I'll take my Sage rod and CFO anyday.

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from YooperRyan wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

The Abu Garcia C3 Ambassadeur might as well be my wife of bait casting reels because it's the only one I know that I can trust on my rod. She's seen plenty of action over the years and while I'm sure there are many other good reels out there the trusty ol' C3 has yet to give me a reason to verify that for myself. Yes sir, it's been a long and happy marriage.
Sadly, my relationship with spinning reels has been a bit more turbulent. I've played around with several different models, but ultimately I keep running back to the Daiwa SS tournament series, generically known as the black and gold.
Both the C3 and the SS are outstanding examples of simple form and functionality melding to produce something that's about as reliable as seconds at Rosie O'Donald's house.
Now if you want to talk about feeling nostalgic for a lost classic, then look no further than the old 300 series Mitchell spinning reels. I mean talk about beautiful simplicity, if you cracked one of those vintage reels open you'd find fewer parts than an old shop teacher has fingers on a hand. Here's a respectable workhorse nameplate that's been thoroughly "modernized" into an absolute donkey of a product. Today's Mitchells are a faint shadow of what they used to be, but if you want to admire some quality machinery then go to your grandpa's house or for that matter anybody else who fished anytime between 1950 and 1980. Poke around the basement or wherever they keep their fishing stuff and check one out for yourself. Trust me, they'll have one, and there's a reason for it. It's called dependability.

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from YooperRyan wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

The abu garcia C3 ambassadeur might as well be my wife of bait casters. It's the only one I know I can trust on my rod. It's seen plenty of action over the years and while I'm sure there are many other fine reels out there, my trusty C3 has yet to give me a reason to go and verify that. Yes Sir, it's been a long and happy marriage.
Sadly, the same cannot be said of my relationships with spinning reels. Sure I've played around with various models at one time or another but I keep finding myself running back to the Daiwa SS Tournament series, more generically known as the black and gold.
Both the C3 and SS are outstanding examples of simple form and functionality melding to produce something that's about as reliable as seconds at Rosie O'Donald's house.
Now if you want to talk about feeling nostalgic for a lost classic then look no further than the old 300 series spinning reels from Mitchell. I mean talk about beautiful simplicity. If you cracked one of these open you'd find fewer parts then there are fingers on the hand of an old shop teacher. Here's a good (or bad, as it were) example of a once respectable workhorse nameplate that's been thoroughly "modernized" into the absolute donkey that it is today. The newer Mitchell products are a faint shadow of what they once were so if you want to admire some truly fine quality machinery then go to your grandpa's house, or for that matter, anybody who fished with a spinning rod between 1950 and 1980, and check one out for yourself. Trust me, they'll have one, and there's a reason for it. It's called dependability.

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from chadlove wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

Speaking of vintage tackle, you outta see what some of the old original Fenwick Lunkerstiks go for on Ebay...

It pains me to go out in my garage and look up at the three battered and scarred old Lunkerstiks I've had since childhood. If they were only mint...

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from Alex Pernice th... wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

Yea, i too own a few ambassadeurs, they are the best muskie and catfish reels out there.

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from buckhunter wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

You know, I just can't think of a single thing that is not made better today. I been thinking about it all day. I went out to my shop and sifted through piles of junk I've accumulated over the years and couldn't find a single piece of equipment that has not been improved. I have fished Hardy reels and do not care for them. For the Perfect to win best of show was for nostalgia only. There is no comparison to the function of an Abel but if I were to back my truck over a fly reel, I think the Hardy would hold up better. But let's hope that does not happen.

I do believe technology has eclisped craftmanship. Things are made quicker and cheaper but still perform better.

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from Joe_Cermele wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

Buckhunter, but would you agree that better also means "cheaper" today...as in production? You'd die over the mark-up on lots of this stuff. The cost to make one high-rend reel today is probably the retail price of one Penn 704 Greenie back in the day.

Yeah an $800 reel is (better be!) worth the money, and I'm thinking Shimano Stella, HATCH, Van Staal, which all kick ass. But can you fix it yourself? Can you take it to a mom-and-pop shop for a replacement part?

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from Long Run Fishin... wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

Joe,
Nice post...I fish with some Old Guys that are Classics, especially their stories. I have some PENN Squidders and Jigmasters with the pearl and watermelon style reel knobs dating back from my Dad about 30+ years ago...

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from Joe_Cermele wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

Well look who joined the party! Welcome John. Glad your checking out the new site brother. Damn, now I'll have to change my icon though. No one is allowed to have an icon with a bigger striper than mine.

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from buckhunter wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

I see your point Joe. My Grandfathers Mitchell 300 will still be around long after my Stradic has found the bottom of the trash can. Todays equipment is hi-tech but disposable.

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from Sportsman Matt wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

If Hardy would make the St. Johns 3 7/8" again. The best salmon reel I have ever used, and rugged as rugged gets.

The other thing would be the Master Telescopic Fiberglass Fly Rod in 8 or 9 foot and 5/6 wt. I've got one that's seen better days, fished 8 states across the country with it, and fits my carry on bag with no problem.

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from Long Run Fishin... wrote 3 years 15 weeks ago

Joe,
LOL...yeah, I decided to come over to the dark side and see what is happening here, good stuff I might add!I'll be lurking in the darkness...its almost time

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from Alex Pernice th... wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

Yea, I too have a zebco 33 my dad had from the 60 I think, and a Penn 55 trolling reel from the late 50's

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from Alex Pernice th... wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

Yea, i too own a few ambassadeurs, they are the best muskie and catfish reels out there.

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from Joe_Cermele wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

Buckhunter, but would you agree that better also means "cheaper" today...as in production? You'd die over the mark-up on lots of this stuff. The cost to make one high-rend reel today is probably the retail price of one Penn 704 Greenie back in the day.

Yeah an $800 reel is (better be!) worth the money, and I'm thinking Shimano Stella, HATCH, Van Staal, which all kick ass. But can you fix it yourself? Can you take it to a mom-and-pop shop for a replacement part?

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from Charley wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

Daiwa black/gold reel. It will keep going and going.
Penn 309. They have been around forever and the new ones are no different than forty years ago. It's my favorite reel for lead core trout trolling.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Charley wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

The classics stay around because they have proven themselves generation after generation.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Joe_Cermele wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

But Charley, I'm saying a lot of classics that should still be around are long gone. The Penn greenie has proven itself and hasn't been around for decades.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from MLH wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

I use a newer Abu-Garcia Ambassadeur 6000 and two Orvis CEOs.

My 35 year old Zebco 33 is all that's left of my old reels. My first 33 is probably still in the bottom of Acton Lake in SW Ohio. Not sure what happened to my first reel, a Zebco 202, or the old Shakespeare, Mitchell, and Dad's Penn. Not worth much but this 33 is going into a shadow box with lures I don't want lose. Lots of childhood memories there.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from dwaynez wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

I have an old Penn #9 and a daiwa millionaire I have had for quite some time, I also have some very old mitchell spinning reels that I really love to use.

They were handed down thru the family

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Charley wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

Joe, thats true. Some classics have faded from the picture- who knows why?

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from chadlove wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

Great topic! One of my most cherished possessions is a late 70s-vintage Ambassadeur 5000c I paid $59 for in 1979, bought at the local TG&Y with carefully-hoarded tooth fairy and chores money. I still have the receipt.

Man, I can still remember lusting after that reel. While other eight-year-olds cruised the toy section I always had my face pressed against the sporting goods case.

Took me a while to learn how to cast it, and in the years since I have gone through literally hundreds of baitcasters but that one just keeps going and going.
Well, to be honest I've accumulated various other vintage 5000-series Abus and other than switching out handles they're all still original and going strong.

I'm always looking for vintage tackle and I hit the pawn shops pretty regularly. I will now be keeping my eyes peeled for Penn 704s...

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from buckhunter wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

I love fishing my old bamboo fly rods with ceramic reels as well as my old spun fiberglas Shakespeare fly rods with an automatic reel or using my Mitchell 300 to throw a wooden plug to a waiting bass.

I've been collecting old fishing tackle for years and enjoy the nostalgia. Picked up my first 3 fly rods in 1976 and never looked back.

But, if I want to cast a #12 Adams 40 feet to a rising trout behind a rock and between two tree limbs then fight him on 7x tippet I'll take my Sage rod and CFO anyday.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from YooperRyan wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

The abu garcia C3 ambassadeur might as well be my wife of bait casters. It's the only one I know I can trust on my rod. It's seen plenty of action over the years and while I'm sure there are many other fine reels out there, my trusty C3 has yet to give me a reason to go and verify that. Yes Sir, it's been a long and happy marriage.
Sadly, the same cannot be said of my relationships with spinning reels. Sure I've played around with various models at one time or another but I keep finding myself running back to the Daiwa SS Tournament series, more generically known as the black and gold.
Both the C3 and SS are outstanding examples of simple form and functionality melding to produce something that's about as reliable as seconds at Rosie O'Donald's house.
Now if you want to talk about feeling nostalgic for a lost classic then look no further than the old 300 series spinning reels from Mitchell. I mean talk about beautiful simplicity. If you cracked one of these open you'd find fewer parts then there are fingers on the hand of an old shop teacher. Here's a good (or bad, as it were) example of a once respectable workhorse nameplate that's been thoroughly "modernized" into the absolute donkey that it is today. The newer Mitchell products are a faint shadow of what they once were so if you want to admire some truly fine quality machinery then go to your grandpa's house, or for that matter, anybody who fished with a spinning rod between 1950 and 1980, and check one out for yourself. Trust me, they'll have one, and there's a reason for it. It's called dependability.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from chadlove wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

Speaking of vintage tackle, you outta see what some of the old original Fenwick Lunkerstiks go for on Ebay...

It pains me to go out in my garage and look up at the three battered and scarred old Lunkerstiks I've had since childhood. If they were only mint...

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from buckhunter wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

You know, I just can't think of a single thing that is not made better today. I been thinking about it all day. I went out to my shop and sifted through piles of junk I've accumulated over the years and couldn't find a single piece of equipment that has not been improved. I have fished Hardy reels and do not care for them. For the Perfect to win best of show was for nostalgia only. There is no comparison to the function of an Abel but if I were to back my truck over a fly reel, I think the Hardy would hold up better. But let's hope that does not happen.

I do believe technology has eclisped craftmanship. Things are made quicker and cheaper but still perform better.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Long Run Fishin... wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

Joe,
Nice post...I fish with some Old Guys that are Classics, especially their stories. I have some PENN Squidders and Jigmasters with the pearl and watermelon style reel knobs dating back from my Dad about 30+ years ago...

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Joe_Cermele wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

Well look who joined the party! Welcome John. Glad your checking out the new site brother. Damn, now I'll have to change my icon though. No one is allowed to have an icon with a bigger striper than mine.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from buckhunter wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

I see your point Joe. My Grandfathers Mitchell 300 will still be around long after my Stradic has found the bottom of the trash can. Todays equipment is hi-tech but disposable.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Sportsman Matt wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

If Hardy would make the St. Johns 3 7/8" again. The best salmon reel I have ever used, and rugged as rugged gets.

The other thing would be the Master Telescopic Fiberglass Fly Rod in 8 or 9 foot and 5/6 wt. I've got one that's seen better days, fished 8 states across the country with it, and fits my carry on bag with no problem.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Long Run Fishin... wrote 3 years 15 weeks ago

Joe,
LOL...yeah, I decided to come over to the dark side and see what is happening here, good stuff I might add!I'll be lurking in the darkness...its almost time

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from MLH wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

I use a newer Abu-Garcia Ambassadeur 6000 and two Orvis CEOs.

My 35 year old Zebco 33 is all that's left of my old reels. My first 33 is probably still in the bottom of Acton Lake in SW Ohio. Not sure what happened to my first reel, a Zebco 202, or the old Shakespeare, Mitchell, and Dad's Penn. Not worth much but this 33 is going into a shadow box with lures I don't want lose. Lots of childhood memories there.

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from YooperRyan wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

The Abu Garcia C3 Ambassadeur might as well be my wife of bait casting reels because it's the only one I know that I can trust on my rod. She's seen plenty of action over the years and while I'm sure there are many other good reels out there the trusty ol' C3 has yet to give me a reason to verify that for myself. Yes sir, it's been a long and happy marriage.
Sadly, my relationship with spinning reels has been a bit more turbulent. I've played around with several different models, but ultimately I keep running back to the Daiwa SS tournament series, generically known as the black and gold.
Both the C3 and the SS are outstanding examples of simple form and functionality melding to produce something that's about as reliable as seconds at Rosie O'Donald's house.
Now if you want to talk about feeling nostalgic for a lost classic, then look no further than the old 300 series Mitchell spinning reels. I mean talk about beautiful simplicity, if you cracked one of those vintage reels open you'd find fewer parts than an old shop teacher has fingers on a hand. Here's a respectable workhorse nameplate that's been thoroughly "modernized" into an absolute donkey of a product. Today's Mitchells are a faint shadow of what they used to be, but if you want to admire some quality machinery then go to your grandpa's house or for that matter anybody else who fished anytime between 1950 and 1980. Poke around the basement or wherever they keep their fishing stuff and check one out for yourself. Trust me, they'll have one, and there's a reason for it. It's called dependability.

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