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October 01, 2009

This Week's Whitetail Headlines: New Regs for New York Deer Hunters?

By Dave Hurteau

Unsatisfied with the Empire State’s current Southern Zone deer hunting seasons, New York Bowhunters Inc and the New York State Muzzleloaders Association has offered a proposal to revamp the regs in a way that would make both organizations happy.

But, from the Binghamton Press & Sun-Bulletin:
How the rest of the hunting populace views it remains to be seen.

The proposal is for a 23-day regular firearms season that opens on the Saturday before Thanksgiving.

The early archery season would open Thursday, Oct. 1, and end the Friday before the beginning of the regular firearms season.

The weekend before the firearms season would be for junior hunters (ages 14 and 15) only.

A five-day antlerless-only "primitive" muzzleloading season for all licensed hunters would open on the Monday before the beginning of the regular firearms season and end on the Friday before the beginning of the regular firearms season. The catch is that the only muzzleloaders allowed would be sidelocks (external hammers) loaded with patched round balls, using flintlock, rope or percussion cap for ignition. Open sights only; no optics.

What do you think of the proposed season structure and regs? Would you want them in your state?

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from Mike Diehl wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

Typical exclusionary bullsh*t from the "primitive muzzleloader" types. I could maybe convinced that those were good restrictions if also these "primitives" could be arrested if they wore a watch, used a GPS, or drove any vehicle off of a paved road while in possession of their muzzleloading firearm.

Until then, those sorts of restrictions are the kinds of things one expects from radicals and other "me first" types.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

Good Lord, Mike Diehl! You took the words right out of my mouth. Most bows (?) and muzzleloaders are nowhere near primitive weapons and it's just an attempt to beat out the majority of rifle hunters.

We sort of got that redistribution equalized in WA State a few years ago. No mas on the tons of archery and ML limited entry tags. Now they are distributed amongst the user groups. And guess what? If you buy an archery tag, you can't hunt the other method seasons! (and same for other method/tags)

Me, me, me, me, Waaaah!

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from Mike Diehl wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

Of course, the cure for the problem is just to have to purchase more kinds of firearms, which is a decent excuse to have around. ;)

In AZ you get an archery tag and one of many several kinds of riflery tags. G&Fs take is that if it loads from the front, you can use it during the muzzleloader season.

Austin and Halleck had a funny response to the loony primitivist types a few years back. It was a flintlock, with a synthetic stock, stainless steel bbl, and a really really nice folding peep sight. I had to laugh on seeing it, but understand that it was designed mindful of the hunter who has to endure idiotic restrictions.

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from fitch270 wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

As an upstate NY'er with a lifetime Super Sportsman's license (Big game,Small game,Fishing,Archery and Muzzleloading) I'd like to say no thanks. Folks seem to forget that some of us like to chase turkeys, grouse, and rabbits for a few weeks before it becomes all about deer. Small game season starts Oct. 1 and it's nice to get out for a warm up first, especially so since I've taken up upland hunting with my Brittany.
As a Hunter Education Instructor, I'd like to see the Youth season happen in some form, but I'm not sure how they can pull that off since they went to a Saturday opener a few years back.
As far as the "primitive" idea, well let's just say I have an in-line and most guys I know shoot those or percussion cap Hawkens. Combine that with the fact the the DEC has cut back on Doe tags in my area the last few years, it doesn't seem logical.

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from 86Ram wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

No I would not wantmy state adopting or using any of New Yorks unfriendly Hunting policies. I have hunted there before when stationed there. not user friendly at all when it come to deer hunting.

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from 86Ram wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

I've got a bow for archery and gun for firearms season im an equal opportunity hunter and my season is extended for it.

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from shane wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

Oh yeah Diehl, good to see you back and blasting stupidity into oblivion. I was just gonna ask where you've been.

As to the new proposed regs - Huh?

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from JohnR wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

Well, as Forrest Gump said, "Stupid is as stupid does!"
Why don't states make simple regulations that one doesn't have to have one's attorney review so that they may be understood.

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from jbumbaugh wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

Sounds alot like the bs we have here in Pennsylvania. Don't care much for it myself. I hunt archery, muzzleloader (yes it's a flintlock), and regular firearms season. Too many different seasons and being too liberal with tags has taken a major toll on deer numbers in my neck of the woods.

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from DanE wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

What a crock of.... well you know. I definitely do not want to see these regs in my state or any other. My track record with bowhunting is lack luster to say the least and I would like to take up muzzleloading with an inline instead to extend my hunting season. Regs like those would definitely prevent me (and probably a few others) from taking up muzzleloading.

I thought these sorts of organizations were supposed to try and get more people interested and involved in their method of hunting and not making their part of the state/country into an elitist hunting club?

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

Dan E

I think the term is: "What a crock of Pelosi".

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from Mike Diehl wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

"I was just gonna ask where you've been."

Of late, I have found almost every piece of news or agitprop on the radio, tv, and internet so annoying that I've been staying away.

You know what the cod said to the haddock when they were caught in a net?

"We're scrod."

And we are.

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from Mark-1 wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

The last thing we Yorker's need is bow hunters fussing around 45-days prior the regular deer season.

There's also the small game seasons and the bird hunters that don't need to cross paths with a camo freak with green paint on his face pissed off that you dare be in the Uplands hunting small game.

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from bignoble15 wrote 2 years 17 weeks ago

you are a bunch of meat sticks. these regulations are not much different than vermonts where i grew up hunting. this gives a youth weekend, to get more youths involved and an earlier bow season. seriously, anyone can pull a trigger and kill a deer at 100 + yards with a rifle as most of you sound like you want a longer gun season or no change to your current season. How bout they eliminate gun season and archery only, a real challenge.

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from bignoble15 wrote 2 years 17 weeks ago

ny bow hunters rule.

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from Mike Diehl wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

Typical exclusionary bullsh*t from the "primitive muzzleloader" types. I could maybe convinced that those were good restrictions if also these "primitives" could be arrested if they wore a watch, used a GPS, or drove any vehicle off of a paved road while in possession of their muzzleloading firearm.

Until then, those sorts of restrictions are the kinds of things one expects from radicals and other "me first" types.

+3 Good Comment? | | Report
from Mike Diehl wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

Of course, the cure for the problem is just to have to purchase more kinds of firearms, which is a decent excuse to have around. ;)

In AZ you get an archery tag and one of many several kinds of riflery tags. G&Fs take is that if it loads from the front, you can use it during the muzzleloader season.

Austin and Halleck had a funny response to the loony primitivist types a few years back. It was a flintlock, with a synthetic stock, stainless steel bbl, and a really really nice folding peep sight. I had to laugh on seeing it, but understand that it was designed mindful of the hunter who has to endure idiotic restrictions.

+3 Good Comment? | | Report
from Mike Diehl wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

"I was just gonna ask where you've been."

Of late, I have found almost every piece of news or agitprop on the radio, tv, and internet so annoying that I've been staying away.

You know what the cod said to the haddock when they were caught in a net?

"We're scrod."

And we are.

+3 Good Comment? | | Report
from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

Dan E

I think the term is: "What a crock of Pelosi".

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

Good Lord, Mike Diehl! You took the words right out of my mouth. Most bows (?) and muzzleloaders are nowhere near primitive weapons and it's just an attempt to beat out the majority of rifle hunters.

We sort of got that redistribution equalized in WA State a few years ago. No mas on the tons of archery and ML limited entry tags. Now they are distributed amongst the user groups. And guess what? If you buy an archery tag, you can't hunt the other method seasons! (and same for other method/tags)

Me, me, me, me, Waaaah!

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from fitch270 wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

As an upstate NY'er with a lifetime Super Sportsman's license (Big game,Small game,Fishing,Archery and Muzzleloading) I'd like to say no thanks. Folks seem to forget that some of us like to chase turkeys, grouse, and rabbits for a few weeks before it becomes all about deer. Small game season starts Oct. 1 and it's nice to get out for a warm up first, especially so since I've taken up upland hunting with my Brittany.
As a Hunter Education Instructor, I'd like to see the Youth season happen in some form, but I'm not sure how they can pull that off since they went to a Saturday opener a few years back.
As far as the "primitive" idea, well let's just say I have an in-line and most guys I know shoot those or percussion cap Hawkens. Combine that with the fact the the DEC has cut back on Doe tags in my area the last few years, it doesn't seem logical.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from 86Ram wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

No I would not wantmy state adopting or using any of New Yorks unfriendly Hunting policies. I have hunted there before when stationed there. not user friendly at all when it come to deer hunting.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from 86Ram wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

I've got a bow for archery and gun for firearms season im an equal opportunity hunter and my season is extended for it.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from shane wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

Oh yeah Diehl, good to see you back and blasting stupidity into oblivion. I was just gonna ask where you've been.

As to the new proposed regs - Huh?

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from JohnR wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

Well, as Forrest Gump said, "Stupid is as stupid does!"
Why don't states make simple regulations that one doesn't have to have one's attorney review so that they may be understood.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from jbumbaugh wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

Sounds alot like the bs we have here in Pennsylvania. Don't care much for it myself. I hunt archery, muzzleloader (yes it's a flintlock), and regular firearms season. Too many different seasons and being too liberal with tags has taken a major toll on deer numbers in my neck of the woods.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from DanE wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

What a crock of.... well you know. I definitely do not want to see these regs in my state or any other. My track record with bowhunting is lack luster to say the least and I would like to take up muzzleloading with an inline instead to extend my hunting season. Regs like those would definitely prevent me (and probably a few others) from taking up muzzleloading.

I thought these sorts of organizations were supposed to try and get more people interested and involved in their method of hunting and not making their part of the state/country into an elitist hunting club?

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Mark-1 wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

The last thing we Yorker's need is bow hunters fussing around 45-days prior the regular deer season.

There's also the small game seasons and the bird hunters that don't need to cross paths with a camo freak with green paint on his face pissed off that you dare be in the Uplands hunting small game.

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from bignoble15 wrote 2 years 17 weeks ago

you are a bunch of meat sticks. these regulations are not much different than vermonts where i grew up hunting. this gives a youth weekend, to get more youths involved and an earlier bow season. seriously, anyone can pull a trigger and kill a deer at 100 + yards with a rifle as most of you sound like you want a longer gun season or no change to your current season. How bout they eliminate gun season and archery only, a real challenge.

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from bignoble15 wrote 2 years 17 weeks ago

ny bow hunters rule.

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