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September 04, 2009

Special Report: Regular F&S.com Poster Takes Wolf in Idaho

By Thomas McIntyre

Familiar to readers of fieldandstream.com is regular poster Robert Millage, better known as “idahooutdoors.” Now, it seems, Millage is getting known by everyone in the country with an interest in wolves.


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Tuesday, the 1st of September was the opening of Idaho’s controversial wolf-hunting season. Millage, a fifth generation, 34-year-old Idahoan from Kamiah—who is a dedicated outdoorsman when he’s not a realtor with Idaho Land and Home or guiding hunters for Selway Ridgerunner Outfitters—has seen the explosion of wolves in his state, and the (coincidental or not) steep decline in elk numbers. All of which made him look forward to the chance to take one of Idaho’s big game quota of 220 wolves.

On the night of August 31st, Millage was in the north-central Idaho mountains between Units 10 and 12 in the Lolo hunting zone, about halfway between Kamiah and Missoula, Montana, scouting for wolves. He was scouting them the way he does elk, going to the tops of drainages and listening for their calls, until he located the howls of a pack below. Then he raised his camp and got ready to hunt in the morning.

At 3:00 a.m., Millage was set up behind a log on a rockslide, on an opening above the edge of the timber. He had a Tikka T3 topped with a Burris Diamond scope. He was shooting a .243 Winchester loaded with 100 grain Remington Core-Lokts. As he waited for shooting light, it was like some vampire movie as he heard wolves howling all around him; and he took comfort in the.357 on his hip, even though it wasn’t loaded with silver bullets.

When light broke, Millage began making a coyote distress call—wolves hating coyotes even more than they love elk. And in twenty minutes, a long and lanky 80 pound gray wolf with black hackles stepped out of the timber below, looking for the source of the calling.

As Millage held the wolf in his crosshairs, it may have winded him because it turned and trotted back toward the timber. Figuring it was now or never, Millage let off the safety and fired. The bullet took the wolf behind the shoulder and it flipped over and lay dead. If this wasn’t the first big-game hunter-taken wolf in Idaho, or in the entire Northern Rockies in the US, it was damn close.

By four that afternoon, Millage was in Lewiston, checking the wolf in with Idaho Fish and Game; and “excited” barely describes the reception he received there. Because of the 90 degree temperatures, Millage had the wolf tucked up on the front floorboard on the passenger side of his SUV, the A/C cranked up to max to make sure the hair didn’t slip. And within minutes he had an estimated 15 to 20 fish and game employees crowding eagerly around, all wanting a look.

When the media were alerted, Millage became a celebrity and a villain. As of this writing, his name and “wolf” on Google pulls up 277,000 results. Initially, the e-mails and calls he received, from people identifying themselves as members of groups such as Defenders of Wildlife, were overwhelmingly negative, if not downright nasty. But Millage kept his cool and remained polite. Now there’s been an upwelling of support from other hunters around the country who understand the necessity of managing an apex predator like the wolf, and that states such as Idaho are capable of carrying out the job, as they have done successfully with cougars, black bears, and grizzlies.

Presently, only a handful of wolves have been taken in Idaho, probably because hunters are waiting to see how the season goes, or does not go. A lawsuit—brought by the Bozeman-based law firm EarthJustice, representing a coalition of 13 “conservation” groups—to return the wolf to federal regulation under the Endangered Species Act, and to halt the Idaho hunts as well as those planned for Montana later this month, is now before US District Judge Don Molloy in Missoula, Montana; and a decision is expected sometime next week.

Millage has his wolf, though, and ranks it with his other lifetime trophies, including a 182 mule deer he took. He would like to have the wolf made into a full body mount so his boys, ages three and four, will have it to enjoy as they grow up. So if there’s any good taxidermist out there who might like to volunteer his services, Millage would be pleased to hear from you.

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from Outsider wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Awesome!!!! Wildlife Management at its finest!!! great job.

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from seadog wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Congrats again, idahooutdoors! Great story. Thanks to F&S and Thomas McIntyre for supporting one of our own.

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from JOHN ANDERSON wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

"NICELY"DONE!!That should make an excellent mount.CONGRATS!!

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from idahooutdoors wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Thanks F&S, and an even bigger thanks for the support of sportsmen and the ranchers that has been nothing short of amazing......

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from ckRich wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Congatulations, and thanks for representing true outdoorsmen everywhere!

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from Kim wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Fine looking animal, congratulations! Seems like the wolves in Idaho are eating well. They are healthy animals with fine coats. Nice shot!

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from Elmer Fudd wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

So sorry you are being harassed, but kudos from me!

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from idduckhntr wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Idahooutdoors you sir are a better man than I and I congradulate you on your succsess, if those bunnyhuggers started in on me I think I would have opened up a can, I hope you post pics of the mount when its done again congrats.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Damn straight! Good job!

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from Koldkut wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

One in the history books. Good hunting, great take!

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from Walt Smith wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

To the rest of the Idaho liscense holders-- Get out there and get hunting dammit!

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from RJ Arena wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Congrats, and keep up the good work! One less four-legged poacher!

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from jbird wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Congrats again. Beautiful wolf. Keep your head up, and thanks to F&S for recognizing a true sportsman.

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from ggmack wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

good shooting. I am glad that you are able to stand true asgainst the morons that don't know the true story of wolves in that area.

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from huntergatherer wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

This photo is an embarrassment to the hunting community. This guy has killed an animal he has no intention of eating and has perpetuated the myth that the land belongs to humans for us to manage as suits us best. I'm sure he made the ranchers happy, even though ranchers are not on the side of hunters on most issues. Hunters that shoot wolves are pawns of ranchers.

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from Ruckweiler wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Good story. Enjoyed the tale.

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from steve182 wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

that's our boy! well done

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from idahooutdoors wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

huntergatherer, I shot the wolf as part of my duty as a hunter to help with predator management as dictated by the biologist with the Fish and Game to promote a healthy balance of wildlife for the good of the Wolves as well as hunters. You may not eat predators that you shoot, but you do eat what that predator would have killed. I would rather live in a state with 500 healthy wolves than one with 5000 starving wolves......trust the game biologist, there are more reasons for hunting than a trophy, that is just a bonus in my book, not the reason to be in the field.....and yes I took some trophy pics to share, and plan on having a fine mount made, to share with those who would be upset if I didn't, for those that don't like such things, then don't look. One group dictating the choices and lifestyles of others is not something this country was founded on.....

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from idahooutdoors wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Also a pawn of ranchers, I've been called worst lately....most ranchers work from before sunrise to after sunset, doing a job most would curl up in the corner and cry trying to do..paying taxes, producing food for us all to eat...so if I was to be labeled the pawn of a certain group, I couldn't have chosen better myself, thanks for the complement!!!!!

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from Walt Smith wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Hey there huntergatherer-- I'm sure if you give ole Bob your address he'd love to send ya some wolf meat-Ha Ha!

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from charlie elk wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Congrats, nice wolf.
As more wolves get hunted they will become a more desirable species (trophy) and will never again be in danger of extinction.
Great job leading the way and taking the arrows from the "I don't have a clue crowd."

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from Del in KS wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Well done and a nice trophy too. My friends at www.ddstaxidermy.com have experience with wolves and coyotes. You may wish to check them out. Master taxidermists Fred Funk has done work for many museums.

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from fng wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

very nicely done! I usually don't shoot predators, as they remind me too much of pets and I neither sell furs nor eat predator. However, I did make a pledge to kill a few dozen coyotes for a friend of mine and have taken some flack as well... kind of a sad day when politics are decided by people who are negative about a subject they have no idea about, and yet the real conservation issues/clashes of interest in your country are laughed off most of the time. Its a shame, but thank you for playing a part in the restoration! and good luck finding a taxidermist, too!

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from ranger2 wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Again, congrats. A fine story about the hunt, I am greatful that you have shared this experience with us, in spite of the undue stress it has caused you.

If there was a place to send contributions, I would send $5 to help with the taxedermist fees... maybe others would too?

Regards~

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from Kim wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Idahooutdoors, don't pay any attention to huntergatherer. Obviously he or she is not much of a hunter. And they know nothing about why people hunt. Wolves are predators and a useful tool in keeping some animals in check. The fact that they are predators means they will take the easiest meal which is sometimes a ranchers cow which is money to the ranchers. This guy must think they are pets and eat vegetation.LOL! Wonder what he would say if he was being hunted by a pack of wolves, bet he would be looking for a hunter then to shoot them. You did a great job and will have a fine pelt or mount whichever you chose.
Hey Huntergatherer! Get a life fool!

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from Hunt_Hard wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Huntergatherer you are an embarrassment to the hunting community. If you are so uneducated to realize management when you see it then you are not a hunter/outdoorsman. Good job Idahooutdoors!

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from rcmich wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

nice job Idahooutdoors. A lot of elk and mule deer will be around next year because of what you did. Now the rest of the Idaho hunters need to get to it before the court system blocks the season. Funny how they know so much more about wolves than the biologists.

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from crfromsc wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Thanks for sharing you story. Congrats.

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from ishawooa wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Great story, wonderfully accomplished hunt, skilled hunter, benefactor to the big game wildlife of the northern Rockies, all around COOL guy, what more could you ask for?

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from idahooutdoors wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Thanks again guys. I can only hope my attempts the last few days to come across to the media and the country as a level headed individual, and not some kill everything stereo type, that they would so much like to make me into, has helped the hunting community more than it has damaged it. I have attempted to take every call and respond to every email, good or bad, and have not ducked from any media request, while at the same time trying to choose words that could not be twisted against us. There is always spin on words, but feel I have done ok so far considering my lack of experience with this sort of situation. The other side likes to make us mad, to the point we say things that they can use against us, and they will not get that from me, since I've been thrust into not just speaking for myself, but the hunting community as a whole, and I do not take that responsibility lightly....

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from crm3006 wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

huntergatherer-
Are you a troll, or an idiot?
idahooutdoors-,If I can get there next year, will you guide for me? Don't care too much about killing anything, but sure would like to see that coyote calling technique one time.

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from logan.vandermay wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Idahooutdoors
Congrats on a good hunt. Be sure to post pictures of the mount when you are done. I would also be willing to donate $5 to a fund for the mount.

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from Kentucky Hunter wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

great job 100 % that will be a hunt to rember for a life time

the kentucky hunters support you all the way your great hunt it is the talk of gun shops and archery shop in every city . dont let the anti hunters get to you . they no very little about wild life management they just need something to complain about due to the lack of haveing a real life and enough self enishitive to read and learn facts from real wild life biolgist about hunting and the balance of nature. they just decided to be self proclaimed no it alls and facts mean nothing to them kind of like huntergather above what a nut .

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from Don Mitchell wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

I don't hunt anything that i can't eat but if its legal,i don't deny any one else from doing so. congrats on a good hunt.

Don

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from lyle gorch wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

We should all quit picking on huntergatherer, and thank him for taking time from watching "bambi" and posting a comment.

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from DakotaMan wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Nice hunt Idaho... you put a lot of effort into that hunt and it paid off. Congrats.

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from JOHN ANDERSON wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Id gladly chip in a five'er! Towards the preserveation of the first successful wolf hunt!HISTORY in the making.Good call RANGER2. And im sure after realizing the error of his ways,huntergather would chip in too.between Bambi an peruseing the male enhancement ads.

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from idduckhntr wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

huntergather hang up your sling shot and take up cross stitch. This man did his part as a sportsman to even the balance between preaditor and pray. I cant wait till the season opens up in my part of the state. Idahooutdoors do you have advice as what call to use if I get a chance to go? Again JOB WELL DONE!

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from idahooutdoors wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Coyote in distress call worked for me....

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from Jim in Mo wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Good job idahooutdoors.
huntergatherer, you perpetuate the myth among non-hunting peta type people that we can all live in harmony and nature always balances things out. Both of which are false ideals. Osama Bin Laden will never be our friend and never allow a fox to guard the chicken coop. The killing of (hopefully) 220 wolves will be the best thing that can happen for the wolves and all the other warm blooded animals.

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from buckhunter wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

The more I read about Idahooutdoors the more I think of how lucky the hunting community is that it was a guy like him to shoot the first wolf.

Keep up the the good work Idaho.

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from WTXWildlifer wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Congratulations to MR. Millage! The wolf population needs to be managed, just as the deer and elk population does. Everyone wants more deer and elk, but these species must also be controlled. Wolves provide an efficient means of controlling the deer and elk populations. Question that statement? Refer to the writings of Aldo Leopold. Many people think high deer/elk numbers are a good thing. In high concentrations they have the same effect on the habitat as too much liquor does to a person, it gets sick! So continue the harvest of wolves, but keep in mind the carrying capacity of the habitat when you are glad there are more deer/elk.

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from hjohn429 wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

I now hate the media even MORE than I did before I read this.....

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from Skeeb wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Congrats idaho...and huntergatherer, you know where I'm telling you go.

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from huntergatherer wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

Photos like this are a bigger threat to hunting than PETA, and so is the anti wolf mentality that dominates Idaho Fish and Game, which allows not science but politics to dominate.

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from JOHN ANDERSON wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

FORGET the wolves.Bring back the wild horses,an BISON.Then well all have somthing to ride an shoot.

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from buckhunter wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

I see your point huntergatherer and to a point agree but your condensending attitude towards the hunting community with your prior post offers nothing more than a cheap shot backed up with nothing.

Explain to me how man's attempt to balance the wolf population is wrong.

In my opinion a wolf hunting season is a great compliment to the men and women whom worked so hard to bring the wolf back.

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from Jere Smith wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

H.G. Go sleep with the wolves, see how long you last.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

@huntergatherer

While I think you have a right to your opinion, obviously you have not read the part of The Old Testament (hint: Genesis) where the Lord GOD gave humankind, which He created in his own image, dominion over the beasts of the fields and the birds of the air....

The land IS OURS to manage properly. We are charged with taking care of it all and management in this age is just part of it.

Best regards and no minus's!

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from Lab fan wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

thank you for the level headed handeling of the antis and unfortunatly some of the miss guided hunters.there are a lot of us who would like to have made that shot and at the same time are glad we didn't due to the fall out. i pray you continue to hold up to the attacks of the misguided.

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from Ruckweiler wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

huntergatherer would probably have us not exterminate rats since we're not going to eat them. He/she has no earthly idea about proper wildlife management. Maybe crochet or cross-stich, as mentioned above, would be better pursuits.

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from JOHN ANDERSON wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

As of sunday night,There has been 12,3oo wolf tags sold.With the weather cooling off I imagen more tags will get filled. Happy hunting!!!

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from peter wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

good for you, wish there was wolves in pa

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from idduckhntr wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

Peter becareful for what you wish for. We had timber wolves already and when they intoduced they gray wolves god only knows what happend to them I had no problem with the timber wolves they did their part for the eco system and stayed to themselves the gray wolf will devour any thing in sight and establish territory any way they can which is to kill anything in thier way. So do you still want them?

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from ranger2 wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

idduckhntr, you took the words out of my mouth... be careful what you wish for!!! The wolf program has met more challenges and controversies than true success as measures by all interested parties.

I would offer to those that oppose the hunting of wolves in Idaho or any other western state, maybe you should re-introduce gray wolves in your own states to establish packs and run rampant in your home woods, and let us manage the game in our part of the country the way we see fit- with good science and sound economics. These animals are not the romanticized, emotion-driven ideals of creatures, anthropomorphized by pop culture. They are just another piece of the puzzle- the same puzzle that deer, elk, and skunks fit into, for that matter. They are no more in danger of extinction; they are changing western wildlife ecology much faster than urban sprawl.

The truth is that most of you will never truly know wolves exist in the wilds of the Western United States because you will never crawl out of your urban megalopolis long enough to experience them for yourselves. You judge from a distance what is best for an ecosystem you have no true knowledge of, nor presents any real consequence to you one way or another. By protesting the management of this animal, you feel you are doing your part to further the cause of conservation- to protect these poor little animals. If idahooutdoors had not published a picture of the wolf he has harvested, you would have little other proof wolves exist in Idaho, other than what you read about in those East Coast liberal rags you peruse.

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from idduckhntr wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

ranger2, very well said sir.

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from flcracker wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

congrats idahooutdoors . huntergatherer get a life !

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from buckhunter wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

I googled this subject and found a wide variety of sites with opinions. On Defenders.org there is a video of Ashley Judd denouncing the new wolf season. I bring this up only because it was just the night before she was in a movie I was watching which she stripped naked and was having sex with a man on film. I was watching the movie with my wife and 19yr old daughter. Embarrased, I turned the channel.

Now I'll ask you whose opinion do you value. Ashley Judds or the father and husband that turned the channel.

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from BareBones wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

Congratulations on your successful hunt Robert, you have done a great job doing your part. You are also representing yourself and the hunters of our state in a way that is to be commended. I have a feeling that initially the “anti’s” expected you to not be articulate, deliberate, calm and refined. I applaud you (and so do many of the Idaho hunters I know) for representing us in a way that does not demean our cause or our passion. Way to keep your cool under pressure pal! We will continue to support you!

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from mattreney wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

congrats on your successful trip hope to see hear from you about some more
you should be proud your keeping a cool head not sure all of us would be able to do that with all the insults youve been recieving i realy think your personality is giving a better image to hunters your ignoring what people say instead of coming back with insults thanks for that keep up the good work well continue to support you 100%

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from HuntinFool wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

Well written article and a great harvest by a great guy! Congrats Robert on a great hunt!
I hope to soon join your ranks. I've been chasing them, but, they have stayed one step ahead.
Today the judge stomped the injunction, so, hopefully the next time I chase wolves it will be on my side of the state instead of having to drive up to your neck of the woods.
Keep your chin up... the antis are only antis because they lack the logic involved in understanding population control of ANY species.
Loud and proud to be a hunter, rancher, and true blooded Idahoan!

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from Ohio_Hunter_laxer wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

We need to listen to the biologists and doctors that get paid to study and suggest courses of action And tell the politicians to listen and do what is right!!

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from Chris Lowman wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

Man this is one hot topic. I was in Idaho for 10 years between school and work and when I left 2 years ago the wolf population in Idaho alone was three times the goal for the entire tri-state area (Idaho, Montana, Wyoming). Glad to see they got this going, just wish I was there to join in. By the way, the area he got this wolf is some of the most beautiful country in idaho. But other than Boise most of Idaho is pretty sweet.

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from Rodneyb71 wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

I have been waiting for this moment ever since the Wolf was reintroduced back into the lower 48. I knew the population would get out-of-hand. I read a good statement earlier about the wolf becoming a Trophy and the population would stay in check. Good statement! The wolf once romed the midwestern praires and they were killed out. We are starting to see them making there way back. Yes Wolves in Illinois not alot of them... one here one there....Making there way down from Wisconsin. It's nice to see the Wolf Season open!!!!! I would pay the $150.00 to bag a Wolf!

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from Cgull wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

Very nice trophy Idahooutdoors, thanks for helping maintain healthy wolf, deer, elk, small animal, camper, hiker and children numbers. The thinning of Idaho's wolf population is a win win for all sides. Good job!!

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from Colorado Samurai wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

Congratulations, Mr. Millage! That's quite the wolf you've got there. You got really lucky!

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from Ricardo Rodríguez wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

Congratulations Idahooutdoors! Beautiful specimen.
Will do a very good mount.
Just keep your cool and don´t listen to the antis.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

@ buckhunter

Yep, that Ashley Judd is just another Hollywood Ho' getting pimped by PETA, HSUS, and the like.

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from yohan wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

Yup if we as a (hunting) group had to pick one guy to take the first one (wolf) and then take the heat ,. odahooutdorrs ,. is a good pick.
Guys got guts too ,.as Realtor that cold hurt his business.
As we all know shooting wolves does not pay the bills,. But hopefully the attention will "jack up" his guiding buis to the point it dosent matter .or actually increase his Real Estate busines from those in our camp.

It aint pretty ,. but in business and in life one dies to feed another
So as apex preditor man has determined ( rightfully i think ) the wolves have been killing too much.

Congratulations on your hunt and holding steadfast to you principals ideas and Ideals.

crm 30-04 1/2 " aka acorn "D " that you must be
get a life yuk yuk

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from Happy Myles wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

Idahooutdoors,

You made page 20 in the front section of the Los Angeles Times this morning. They did not pick on you, actually seemed like they were indicating you were being picked on.

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from idahooutdoors wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

I think the antis where not expecting such a backlash when attacking me....it was hard for their foul mouthed rants and lack of facts or valid points to hold up against the level headed fact filled responses of hunters and ranchers.....I will have to check the story, if the LA times has this take on it, then that is most definitely a victory for the hunting community....and it was won by all of you......

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from mattreney wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

your putting a much better image on the hunter community you should be proud
most people when asked why kill it would back into a corner i wa amazed by your explanation i always thought that but could never put it into words

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from northern_mi_hunter wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

Nice trophy Idaho...

As to all the contorversy surrounding the hunting of wolves, here is my take:

First and foremost I do not think wolf numbers should be kept low just to make ranchers happy. Having a healthy wolf population is more important than some rancher making a few less bucks each year.

That said, the wolves must be controlled so that they do not wipe out thier prey, elk, and then REALLY decimate a ranches cattle... With humans taking up alot of the landscape, this country can never go back to leting predator and prey populations keep each other in check without our help. It would not happen... Even with no humans around, predator and prey balance never really balances... It goes boom and bust...

Before Europeans came to North America game populations were able to SOMEWHAT balance themselves. But this balance was not harmonious as some might think. There were ALWAYS boom and bust cycles of wolves and thier prey. If wolves and elk were not hunted today that boom and bust cycle would be even more pronounced since human occupy alot of both animals habitat.

I have read 2 different books on the predator and prey relationship between wolves and moose on Isle Royale, MI. On this isolated island where no prey is hunted by humans (the moose) there are STILL huge flucuations in wolf and moose numbers. If moose were hunted and wolves were not, scientists say the wolves would eventually become vanashied because they would eat thier prey down to the point where the wolves would be to weak to propagte.

That is on a isolated island. In the West, if the wolf population was not controlled the elk popultion would be decimated to the point that they would also not be able to be hunted. WHICH BY THE WAY, THAT IS THE GOAL OF MOST PEOPLE WHO DO NOT WANT THE WOLVES HUNTED. And after the elk population takes its nose dive, the wolves will go after the ranchers cattle.

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from northern_mi_hunter wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

Also I would like to add:

When I say that I do not want wolf numbers being kept low just to appease ranchers, I meant that I do not think economic concerns should override sound science.

If the Idaho fish and game dept. thinks that wolf numbers are to high, then I am all for hunting them.

I am just skeptical because here in Michigan, untill the late 1990's, the state legislator would sometimes pressure our DNR to pass wildlife regulations based on pressure from large business groups.

My worry would be if western ranchers, which i know have a large amount of political clout, pressured thier states legislators to cut wolf numbers because of economic reasons.

BUT I HAVE NO EVIDIENCE THAT THIS IS THE CASE. I just could see it happening here in Michigan in the past.

ANYWAY MY POINT IS: WHAT IS BEST FOR WOLVES, ELK AND THE HABITAT SHOULD BE THE FIRST AND PRIMARY CONCERN, WITH ECONOMIC ISSUES, WHILE STILL IMPORTANT, COMING SECOND.

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from northern_mi_hunter wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

One more thing.. To "Buckhunter"

While to hunters like us there is nothing wrong with the site of a freshly killed animal, an anit would think the same site is disgusting.

Likewise, while you may not have liked the site of Ashley Judd nude on TV, some people think that there is nothing wrong with that.

If she was truley naked, that means it was on a Pay Cable station and after 8pm.

Just as we hunters choose to kill animals ourselves for food and find nothing wrong with it, alot of people think there is nothing wrong with nudity...

I can understand being uncomfortable because your daughter was there though. But when watching programing for adults, on a channel and time frame for adults, nudity and course language should be expected...

I just found it an example of pushing ones beliefs on others. Anti's shouldnt push thier views on us, just as people who dont like nudity shouldnt push thier views on others...

Plus, dude, it was ASHLEY JUDD... LOL She may be a dumb anti, but she is sure a fine looking woman...

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from Romans1414 wrote 4 years 30 weeks ago

Excellent Job! I lived between Weippe and Pierce for a few years back in the late 90's and loved the area. The wolves were just starting to be a hot topic then. So proud to hear about someone from Kamiah taking a wolf! CONGRATS! I've heard reports from a few friends aout seing wolves near Kelly Creek Ranger Station this year...do you have any more local info on that? My family has moved out of the area to Yakima and I don't have much connection there anymore.

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from juliaG wrote 4 years 29 weeks ago

I don't doubt that idahooutdoors is a good person and a hunter with great skills and he has his right to his opinion. I am a hunter, however, I can not condone the killing of wolves or any animal that is not numerous. A few hundred wolves living in a small area of the north west is not an animal that should be hunted. Especially with all the tax payer money/energy being spent on trying to bring the wolf back. As far as the claim that wolves are killing too many other game animals, I can't agree. The biggest killer of elk, deer, etc.. are hunters. One must realize why some hunters would like to hunt wolves - it is the challenge of killing an apex predator. Here is a challenge: hunt elk (or deer) in the back country with bow and arrow. Hunting like this is not only challenging but one can experience the trill of hunting more on natures terms. After all, isn't that what hunting is supposed to be. The focus being on the experience and not all the importance being put on the kill.

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from wolf_lover wrote 4 years 29 weeks ago

i have been "told off" on other pages for my comments so i will ask a question or two, why do you guys believe it is your land to manage? because you live there? was it not the animals living there first? and yes i heard the guy say the lord gave you the land, but if that was true why would you had to have fought for it, surely the animals wouldve known it not theirs. im just saying that us wolf lovers and animal lovers see things differently then you hunters, and there are hurt feelings over the wolf hunt, huntergather is acting the same way i did first finding out but i was shocke and upset and i have said my sorrys for names and things i have said i just want to understand more on how you guys are thinking on the topic and understand better why you kill those who havent harmed you, please do not lash out at me, ive have done you no wrong but stated my own comment. if you feel you can help me understand better on why you guys think it your job and why you do it, then plese respond if your going to lash out and be stupid bout it then leave me alone, it would be best if idahooutdoors himself would reply and give me insight on this topic

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from wolf_lover wrote 4 years 29 weeks ago

ok i just got done reading all the comments on here, and i have a few things to say, huntergather shut up, your being stupid, your not backing anything up, and im on your side on the issue, that tells you something. and for the person who made the bambi comment, harsh and outta place dude. idahooutdoors, i will congrat you on a good hunt, i dont agree with it but im not calling you a bad person because you have different views on this then i. juliaG and northern_mi_hunter you state good points and on most i agree, but i believe someone said dont listen to the aints well i am one, and dont listen if you dont want to, but if your smart then listen and understand why some believe the way we do and why. mostof us believe everything has a right to live and it shouldnt be taken away by someone who thinks they are in control of it and the land, im not saying all of you think that way but i have heard a few say you own the lands and control are in charge of its animals, and most think is your going to hunt then only hunt to kill. someone else said that they heard the wolf is a trophy, my view on that is saying like your wife or kids is a trophy,, all i really have to say is back with the indains the wolf was thought to teacher, for hunting, for family, and for many other things, its population was fine then and they lived peacefully together, why cant we do that now.

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from wolf_lover wrote 4 years 29 weeks ago

i have a mistype in my last comment, "if your going to hunt only hunt what your going to eat." sorry bout that.

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from buckhunter wrote 4 years 29 weeks ago

Good post Wolf_Lover. Can we agree to disagree that we(hunters) kill wolves to save our deer and elk populations?

The only thing that I do not like about our antagonistic views is that we both (antis and hunters) share a love for the same creatures. We need to somehow stop bickering and work together. too many resources are being wasted fighting with each other.

That is why I will welcome you to this site at anytime and read your post with an open mind.

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from wolf_lover wrote 4 years 28 weeks ago

thank you. and yes i know hunters do love the animals that they hunt and there is some sort of thrill or adventure you get from hunting them, thats what ive heard. and yes we need to stop the bickering and actually do something, the only thing i can think of to make my side and your side both happy is to just set a limit, i have heard nothing like this so im assuming there isnt one, have hunters report when they've killed a wolf, and when the limit is reached hunting stops, this way their not all killed and can make a come back by the next season and can still survive the winter, plus then the hunters are still "managing" it and can still have their fun and hunt. and maybe declare no pups or females or at least pregnant females which they shouldn't be this time a year anyways. i think its a good idea that can make everybody happy, any ideas or opinions?

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from Rodneyb71 wrote 4 years 28 weeks ago

..........the only thing i can think of to make my side and your side both happy is to just set a limit, i have heard nothing like this so im assuming there isnt one,......

YOUR ASSUMPTIONS ARE INCORRECT. THE LIMIT IS 220.

TREAD LIGHTLY WOLF_LOVER

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from wolf_lover wrote 4 years 27 weeks ago

im sorry, like i have said i have heard nothing of that, not one person on here(till you) or in any article i could find said anything about a limit, my apologies, and i have heard of a limit now, but i have also heard that people are taking advantage and waiting a while to report their kills so more can be hunted, thats a little upsetting and that doesnt help to make both sides happy.

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from FloridaHunter1226 wrote 4 years 17 weeks ago

Dont let the animal rights activists get to ya. Great job and great trophy!

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from mreclark wrote 4 years 6 weeks ago

Way to go...
there are some out there that say "eat what you kill" okay are you willing to come have dinner with me and after you eat it I will tell you what you just had.
OR...
Would you rather have a nice elk steak? well let us control the wolf population.

Answer me this..Why does no one complain when we shoot a nice deer,or the duck that are kids feed every night? Is it because they don't attack are animals or the animals we hunt every year?

I am ready to go hunting....

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from idahooutdoors wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

huntergatherer, I shot the wolf as part of my duty as a hunter to help with predator management as dictated by the biologist with the Fish and Game to promote a healthy balance of wildlife for the good of the Wolves as well as hunters. You may not eat predators that you shoot, but you do eat what that predator would have killed. I would rather live in a state with 500 healthy wolves than one with 5000 starving wolves......trust the game biologist, there are more reasons for hunting than a trophy, that is just a bonus in my book, not the reason to be in the field.....and yes I took some trophy pics to share, and plan on having a fine mount made, to share with those who would be upset if I didn't, for those that don't like such things, then don't look. One group dictating the choices and lifestyles of others is not something this country was founded on.....

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from idahooutdoors wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Also a pawn of ranchers, I've been called worst lately....most ranchers work from before sunrise to after sunset, doing a job most would curl up in the corner and cry trying to do..paying taxes, producing food for us all to eat...so if I was to be labeled the pawn of a certain group, I couldn't have chosen better myself, thanks for the complement!!!!!

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from idahooutdoors wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Thanks F&S, and an even bigger thanks for the support of sportsmen and the ranchers that has been nothing short of amazing......

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from idahooutdoors wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Thanks again guys. I can only hope my attempts the last few days to come across to the media and the country as a level headed individual, and not some kill everything stereo type, that they would so much like to make me into, has helped the hunting community more than it has damaged it. I have attempted to take every call and respond to every email, good or bad, and have not ducked from any media request, while at the same time trying to choose words that could not be twisted against us. There is always spin on words, but feel I have done ok so far considering my lack of experience with this sort of situation. The other side likes to make us mad, to the point we say things that they can use against us, and they will not get that from me, since I've been thrust into not just speaking for myself, but the hunting community as a whole, and I do not take that responsibility lightly....

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from charlie elk wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Congrats, nice wolf.
As more wolves get hunted they will become a more desirable species (trophy) and will never again be in danger of extinction.
Great job leading the way and taking the arrows from the "I don't have a clue crowd."

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from lyle gorch wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

We should all quit picking on huntergatherer, and thank him for taking time from watching "bambi" and posting a comment.

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from Jim in Mo wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Good job idahooutdoors.
huntergatherer, you perpetuate the myth among non-hunting peta type people that we can all live in harmony and nature always balances things out. Both of which are false ideals. Osama Bin Laden will never be our friend and never allow a fox to guard the chicken coop. The killing of (hopefully) 220 wolves will be the best thing that can happen for the wolves and all the other warm blooded animals.

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from ranger2 wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

idduckhntr, you took the words out of my mouth... be careful what you wish for!!! The wolf program has met more challenges and controversies than true success as measures by all interested parties.

I would offer to those that oppose the hunting of wolves in Idaho or any other western state, maybe you should re-introduce gray wolves in your own states to establish packs and run rampant in your home woods, and let us manage the game in our part of the country the way we see fit- with good science and sound economics. These animals are not the romanticized, emotion-driven ideals of creatures, anthropomorphized by pop culture. They are just another piece of the puzzle- the same puzzle that deer, elk, and skunks fit into, for that matter. They are no more in danger of extinction; they are changing western wildlife ecology much faster than urban sprawl.

The truth is that most of you will never truly know wolves exist in the wilds of the Western United States because you will never crawl out of your urban megalopolis long enough to experience them for yourselves. You judge from a distance what is best for an ecosystem you have no true knowledge of, nor presents any real consequence to you one way or another. By protesting the management of this animal, you feel you are doing your part to further the cause of conservation- to protect these poor little animals. If idahooutdoors had not published a picture of the wolf he has harvested, you would have little other proof wolves exist in Idaho, other than what you read about in those East Coast liberal rags you peruse.

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from buckhunter wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

I googled this subject and found a wide variety of sites with opinions. On Defenders.org there is a video of Ashley Judd denouncing the new wolf season. I bring this up only because it was just the night before she was in a movie I was watching which she stripped naked and was having sex with a man on film. I was watching the movie with my wife and 19yr old daughter. Embarrased, I turned the channel.

Now I'll ask you whose opinion do you value. Ashley Judds or the father and husband that turned the channel.

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from Elmer Fudd wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

So sorry you are being harassed, but kudos from me!

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from Hunt_Hard wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Huntergatherer you are an embarrassment to the hunting community. If you are so uneducated to realize management when you see it then you are not a hunter/outdoorsman. Good job Idahooutdoors!

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

@huntergatherer

While I think you have a right to your opinion, obviously you have not read the part of The Old Testament (hint: Genesis) where the Lord GOD gave humankind, which He created in his own image, dominion over the beasts of the fields and the birds of the air....

The land IS OURS to manage properly. We are charged with taking care of it all and management in this age is just part of it.

Best regards and no minus's!

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from ckRich wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Congatulations, and thanks for representing true outdoorsmen everywhere!

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from idduckhntr wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Idahooutdoors you sir are a better man than I and I congradulate you on your succsess, if those bunnyhuggers started in on me I think I would have opened up a can, I hope you post pics of the mount when its done again congrats.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Damn straight! Good job!

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from Koldkut wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

One in the history books. Good hunting, great take!

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from Walt Smith wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Hey there huntergatherer-- I'm sure if you give ole Bob your address he'd love to send ya some wolf meat-Ha Ha!

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from ranger2 wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Again, congrats. A fine story about the hunt, I am greatful that you have shared this experience with us, in spite of the undue stress it has caused you.

If there was a place to send contributions, I would send $5 to help with the taxedermist fees... maybe others would too?

Regards~

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from JOHN ANDERSON wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Id gladly chip in a five'er! Towards the preserveation of the first successful wolf hunt!HISTORY in the making.Good call RANGER2. And im sure after realizing the error of his ways,huntergather would chip in too.between Bambi an peruseing the male enhancement ads.

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from buckhunter wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

The more I read about Idahooutdoors the more I think of how lucky the hunting community is that it was a guy like him to shoot the first wolf.

Keep up the the good work Idaho.

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from idduckhntr wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

Peter becareful for what you wish for. We had timber wolves already and when they intoduced they gray wolves god only knows what happend to them I had no problem with the timber wolves they did their part for the eco system and stayed to themselves the gray wolf will devour any thing in sight and establish territory any way they can which is to kill anything in thier way. So do you still want them?

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from idahooutdoors wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

I think the antis where not expecting such a backlash when attacking me....it was hard for their foul mouthed rants and lack of facts or valid points to hold up against the level headed fact filled responses of hunters and ranchers.....I will have to check the story, if the LA times has this take on it, then that is most definitely a victory for the hunting community....and it was won by all of you......

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from seadog wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Congrats again, idahooutdoors! Great story. Thanks to F&S and Thomas McIntyre for supporting one of our own.

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from JOHN ANDERSON wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

"NICELY"DONE!!That should make an excellent mount.CONGRATS!!

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from Kim wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Fine looking animal, congratulations! Seems like the wolves in Idaho are eating well. They are healthy animals with fine coats. Nice shot!

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from RJ Arena wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Congrats, and keep up the good work! One less four-legged poacher!

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from jbird wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Congrats again. Beautiful wolf. Keep your head up, and thanks to F&S for recognizing a true sportsman.

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from ggmack wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

good shooting. I am glad that you are able to stand true asgainst the morons that don't know the true story of wolves in that area.

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from Ruckweiler wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Good story. Enjoyed the tale.

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from steve182 wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

that's our boy! well done

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from Del in KS wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Well done and a nice trophy too. My friends at www.ddstaxidermy.com have experience with wolves and coyotes. You may wish to check them out. Master taxidermists Fred Funk has done work for many museums.

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from fng wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

very nicely done! I usually don't shoot predators, as they remind me too much of pets and I neither sell furs nor eat predator. However, I did make a pledge to kill a few dozen coyotes for a friend of mine and have taken some flack as well... kind of a sad day when politics are decided by people who are negative about a subject they have no idea about, and yet the real conservation issues/clashes of interest in your country are laughed off most of the time. Its a shame, but thank you for playing a part in the restoration! and good luck finding a taxidermist, too!

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from Kim wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Idahooutdoors, don't pay any attention to huntergatherer. Obviously he or she is not much of a hunter. And they know nothing about why people hunt. Wolves are predators and a useful tool in keeping some animals in check. The fact that they are predators means they will take the easiest meal which is sometimes a ranchers cow which is money to the ranchers. This guy must think they are pets and eat vegetation.LOL! Wonder what he would say if he was being hunted by a pack of wolves, bet he would be looking for a hunter then to shoot them. You did a great job and will have a fine pelt or mount whichever you chose.
Hey Huntergatherer! Get a life fool!

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from rcmich wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

nice job Idahooutdoors. A lot of elk and mule deer will be around next year because of what you did. Now the rest of the Idaho hunters need to get to it before the court system blocks the season. Funny how they know so much more about wolves than the biologists.

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from crfromsc wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Thanks for sharing you story. Congrats.

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from ishawooa wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Great story, wonderfully accomplished hunt, skilled hunter, benefactor to the big game wildlife of the northern Rockies, all around COOL guy, what more could you ask for?

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from crm3006 wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

huntergatherer-
Are you a troll, or an idiot?
idahooutdoors-,If I can get there next year, will you guide for me? Don't care too much about killing anything, but sure would like to see that coyote calling technique one time.

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from logan.vandermay wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Idahooutdoors
Congrats on a good hunt. Be sure to post pictures of the mount when you are done. I would also be willing to donate $5 to a fund for the mount.

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from Kentucky Hunter wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

great job 100 % that will be a hunt to rember for a life time

the kentucky hunters support you all the way your great hunt it is the talk of gun shops and archery shop in every city . dont let the anti hunters get to you . they no very little about wild life management they just need something to complain about due to the lack of haveing a real life and enough self enishitive to read and learn facts from real wild life biolgist about hunting and the balance of nature. they just decided to be self proclaimed no it alls and facts mean nothing to them kind of like huntergather above what a nut .

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from Don Mitchell wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

I don't hunt anything that i can't eat but if its legal,i don't deny any one else from doing so. congrats on a good hunt.

Don

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from DakotaMan wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Nice hunt Idaho... you put a lot of effort into that hunt and it paid off. Congrats.

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from idduckhntr wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

huntergather hang up your sling shot and take up cross stitch. This man did his part as a sportsman to even the balance between preaditor and pray. I cant wait till the season opens up in my part of the state. Idahooutdoors do you have advice as what call to use if I get a chance to go? Again JOB WELL DONE!

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from idahooutdoors wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Coyote in distress call worked for me....

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from WTXWildlifer wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Congratulations to MR. Millage! The wolf population needs to be managed, just as the deer and elk population does. Everyone wants more deer and elk, but these species must also be controlled. Wolves provide an efficient means of controlling the deer and elk populations. Question that statement? Refer to the writings of Aldo Leopold. Many people think high deer/elk numbers are a good thing. In high concentrations they have the same effect on the habitat as too much liquor does to a person, it gets sick! So continue the harvest of wolves, but keep in mind the carrying capacity of the habitat when you are glad there are more deer/elk.

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from hjohn429 wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

I now hate the media even MORE than I did before I read this.....

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from Skeeb wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Congrats idaho...and huntergatherer, you know where I'm telling you go.

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from buckhunter wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

I see your point huntergatherer and to a point agree but your condensending attitude towards the hunting community with your prior post offers nothing more than a cheap shot backed up with nothing.

Explain to me how man's attempt to balance the wolf population is wrong.

In my opinion a wolf hunting season is a great compliment to the men and women whom worked so hard to bring the wolf back.

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from Jere Smith wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

H.G. Go sleep with the wolves, see how long you last.

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from Ruckweiler wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

huntergatherer would probably have us not exterminate rats since we're not going to eat them. He/she has no earthly idea about proper wildlife management. Maybe crochet or cross-stich, as mentioned above, would be better pursuits.

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from JOHN ANDERSON wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

As of sunday night,There has been 12,3oo wolf tags sold.With the weather cooling off I imagen more tags will get filled. Happy hunting!!!

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from idduckhntr wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

ranger2, very well said sir.

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from BareBones wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

Congratulations on your successful hunt Robert, you have done a great job doing your part. You are also representing yourself and the hunters of our state in a way that is to be commended. I have a feeling that initially the “anti’s” expected you to not be articulate, deliberate, calm and refined. I applaud you (and so do many of the Idaho hunters I know) for representing us in a way that does not demean our cause or our passion. Way to keep your cool under pressure pal! We will continue to support you!

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from Rodneyb71 wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

I have been waiting for this moment ever since the Wolf was reintroduced back into the lower 48. I knew the population would get out-of-hand. I read a good statement earlier about the wolf becoming a Trophy and the population would stay in check. Good statement! The wolf once romed the midwestern praires and they were killed out. We are starting to see them making there way back. Yes Wolves in Illinois not alot of them... one here one there....Making there way down from Wisconsin. It's nice to see the Wolf Season open!!!!! I would pay the $150.00 to bag a Wolf!

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

@ buckhunter

Yep, that Ashley Judd is just another Hollywood Ho' getting pimped by PETA, HSUS, and the like.

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from mattreney wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

your putting a much better image on the hunter community you should be proud
most people when asked why kill it would back into a corner i wa amazed by your explanation i always thought that but could never put it into words

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from Outsider wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

Awesome!!!! Wildlife Management at its finest!!! great job.

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from Walt Smith wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

To the rest of the Idaho liscense holders-- Get out there and get hunting dammit!

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from Lab fan wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

thank you for the level headed handeling of the antis and unfortunatly some of the miss guided hunters.there are a lot of us who would like to have made that shot and at the same time are glad we didn't due to the fall out. i pray you continue to hold up to the attacks of the misguided.

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from peter wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

good for you, wish there was wolves in pa

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from flcracker wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

congrats idahooutdoors . huntergatherer get a life !

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from mattreney wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

congrats on your successful trip hope to see hear from you about some more
you should be proud your keeping a cool head not sure all of us would be able to do that with all the insults youve been recieving i realy think your personality is giving a better image to hunters your ignoring what people say instead of coming back with insults thanks for that keep up the good work well continue to support you 100%

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from HuntinFool wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

Well written article and a great harvest by a great guy! Congrats Robert on a great hunt!
I hope to soon join your ranks. I've been chasing them, but, they have stayed one step ahead.
Today the judge stomped the injunction, so, hopefully the next time I chase wolves it will be on my side of the state instead of having to drive up to your neck of the woods.
Keep your chin up... the antis are only antis because they lack the logic involved in understanding population control of ANY species.
Loud and proud to be a hunter, rancher, and true blooded Idahoan!

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from Ohio_Hunter_laxer wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

We need to listen to the biologists and doctors that get paid to study and suggest courses of action And tell the politicians to listen and do what is right!!

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from Chris Lowman wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

Man this is one hot topic. I was in Idaho for 10 years between school and work and when I left 2 years ago the wolf population in Idaho alone was three times the goal for the entire tri-state area (Idaho, Montana, Wyoming). Glad to see they got this going, just wish I was there to join in. By the way, the area he got this wolf is some of the most beautiful country in idaho. But other than Boise most of Idaho is pretty sweet.

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from Cgull wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

Very nice trophy Idahooutdoors, thanks for helping maintain healthy wolf, deer, elk, small animal, camper, hiker and children numbers. The thinning of Idaho's wolf population is a win win for all sides. Good job!!

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from Colorado Samurai wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

Congratulations, Mr. Millage! That's quite the wolf you've got there. You got really lucky!

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from Ricardo Rodríguez wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

Congratulations Idahooutdoors! Beautiful specimen.
Will do a very good mount.
Just keep your cool and don´t listen to the antis.

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from Happy Myles wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

Idahooutdoors,

You made page 20 in the front section of the Los Angeles Times this morning. They did not pick on you, actually seemed like they were indicating you were being picked on.

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from northern_mi_hunter wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

Nice trophy Idaho...

As to all the contorversy surrounding the hunting of wolves, here is my take:

First and foremost I do not think wolf numbers should be kept low just to make ranchers happy. Having a healthy wolf population is more important than some rancher making a few less bucks each year.

That said, the wolves must be controlled so that they do not wipe out thier prey, elk, and then REALLY decimate a ranches cattle... With humans taking up alot of the landscape, this country can never go back to leting predator and prey populations keep each other in check without our help. It would not happen... Even with no humans around, predator and prey balance never really balances... It goes boom and bust...

Before Europeans came to North America game populations were able to SOMEWHAT balance themselves. But this balance was not harmonious as some might think. There were ALWAYS boom and bust cycles of wolves and thier prey. If wolves and elk were not hunted today that boom and bust cycle would be even more pronounced since human occupy alot of both animals habitat.

I have read 2 different books on the predator and prey relationship between wolves and moose on Isle Royale, MI. On this isolated island where no prey is hunted by humans (the moose) there are STILL huge flucuations in wolf and moose numbers. If moose were hunted and wolves were not, scientists say the wolves would eventually become vanashied because they would eat thier prey down to the point where the wolves would be to weak to propagte.

That is on a isolated island. In the West, if the wolf population was not controlled the elk popultion would be decimated to the point that they would also not be able to be hunted. WHICH BY THE WAY, THAT IS THE GOAL OF MOST PEOPLE WHO DO NOT WANT THE WOLVES HUNTED. And after the elk population takes its nose dive, the wolves will go after the ranchers cattle.

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from northern_mi_hunter wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

Also I would like to add:

When I say that I do not want wolf numbers being kept low just to appease ranchers, I meant that I do not think economic concerns should override sound science.

If the Idaho fish and game dept. thinks that wolf numbers are to high, then I am all for hunting them.

I am just skeptical because here in Michigan, untill the late 1990's, the state legislator would sometimes pressure our DNR to pass wildlife regulations based on pressure from large business groups.

My worry would be if western ranchers, which i know have a large amount of political clout, pressured thier states legislators to cut wolf numbers because of economic reasons.

BUT I HAVE NO EVIDIENCE THAT THIS IS THE CASE. I just could see it happening here in Michigan in the past.

ANYWAY MY POINT IS: WHAT IS BEST FOR WOLVES, ELK AND THE HABITAT SHOULD BE THE FIRST AND PRIMARY CONCERN, WITH ECONOMIC ISSUES, WHILE STILL IMPORTANT, COMING SECOND.

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from yohan wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

Yup if we as a (hunting) group had to pick one guy to take the first one (wolf) and then take the heat ,. odahooutdorrs ,. is a good pick.
Guys got guts too ,.as Realtor that cold hurt his business.
As we all know shooting wolves does not pay the bills,. But hopefully the attention will "jack up" his guiding buis to the point it dosent matter .or actually increase his Real Estate busines from those in our camp.

It aint pretty ,. but in business and in life one dies to feed another
So as apex preditor man has determined ( rightfully i think ) the wolves have been killing too much.

Congratulations on your hunt and holding steadfast to you principals ideas and Ideals.

crm 30-04 1/2 " aka acorn "D " that you must be
get a life yuk yuk

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from northern_mi_hunter wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

One more thing.. To "Buckhunter"

While to hunters like us there is nothing wrong with the site of a freshly killed animal, an anit would think the same site is disgusting.

Likewise, while you may not have liked the site of Ashley Judd nude on TV, some people think that there is nothing wrong with that.

If she was truley naked, that means it was on a Pay Cable station and after 8pm.

Just as we hunters choose to kill animals ourselves for food and find nothing wrong with it, alot of people think there is nothing wrong with nudity...

I can understand being uncomfortable because your daughter was there though. But when watching programing for adults, on a channel and time frame for adults, nudity and course language should be expected...

I just found it an example of pushing ones beliefs on others. Anti's shouldnt push thier views on us, just as people who dont like nudity shouldnt push thier views on others...

Plus, dude, it was ASHLEY JUDD... LOL She may be a dumb anti, but she is sure a fine looking woman...

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from Romans1414 wrote 4 years 30 weeks ago

Excellent Job! I lived between Weippe and Pierce for a few years back in the late 90's and loved the area. The wolves were just starting to be a hot topic then. So proud to hear about someone from Kamiah taking a wolf! CONGRATS! I've heard reports from a few friends aout seing wolves near Kelly Creek Ranger Station this year...do you have any more local info on that? My family has moved out of the area to Yakima and I don't have much connection there anymore.

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from wolf_lover wrote 4 years 29 weeks ago

i have a mistype in my last comment, "if your going to hunt only hunt what your going to eat." sorry bout that.

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from buckhunter wrote 4 years 29 weeks ago

Good post Wolf_Lover. Can we agree to disagree that we(hunters) kill wolves to save our deer and elk populations?

The only thing that I do not like about our antagonistic views is that we both (antis and hunters) share a love for the same creatures. We need to somehow stop bickering and work together. too many resources are being wasted fighting with each other.

That is why I will welcome you to this site at anytime and read your post with an open mind.

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from wolf_lover wrote 4 years 28 weeks ago

thank you. and yes i know hunters do love the animals that they hunt and there is some sort of thrill or adventure you get from hunting them, thats what ive heard. and yes we need to stop the bickering and actually do something, the only thing i can think of to make my side and your side both happy is to just set a limit, i have heard nothing like this so im assuming there isnt one, have hunters report when they've killed a wolf, and when the limit is reached hunting stops, this way their not all killed and can make a come back by the next season and can still survive the winter, plus then the hunters are still "managing" it and can still have their fun and hunt. and maybe declare no pups or females or at least pregnant females which they shouldn't be this time a year anyways. i think its a good idea that can make everybody happy, any ideas or opinions?

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from Rodneyb71 wrote 4 years 28 weeks ago

..........the only thing i can think of to make my side and your side both happy is to just set a limit, i have heard nothing like this so im assuming there isnt one,......

YOUR ASSUMPTIONS ARE INCORRECT. THE LIMIT IS 220.

TREAD LIGHTLY WOLF_LOVER

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from wolf_lover wrote 4 years 27 weeks ago

im sorry, like i have said i have heard nothing of that, not one person on here(till you) or in any article i could find said anything about a limit, my apologies, and i have heard of a limit now, but i have also heard that people are taking advantage and waiting a while to report their kills so more can be hunted, thats a little upsetting and that doesnt help to make both sides happy.

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from FloridaHunter1226 wrote 4 years 17 weeks ago

Dont let the animal rights activists get to ya. Great job and great trophy!

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from mreclark wrote 4 years 6 weeks ago

Way to go...
there are some out there that say "eat what you kill" okay are you willing to come have dinner with me and after you eat it I will tell you what you just had.
OR...
Would you rather have a nice elk steak? well let us control the wolf population.

Answer me this..Why does no one complain when we shoot a nice deer,or the duck that are kids feed every night? Is it because they don't attack are animals or the animals we hunt every year?

I am ready to go hunting....

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from juliaG wrote 4 years 29 weeks ago

I don't doubt that idahooutdoors is a good person and a hunter with great skills and he has his right to his opinion. I am a hunter, however, I can not condone the killing of wolves or any animal that is not numerous. A few hundred wolves living in a small area of the north west is not an animal that should be hunted. Especially with all the tax payer money/energy being spent on trying to bring the wolf back. As far as the claim that wolves are killing too many other game animals, I can't agree. The biggest killer of elk, deer, etc.. are hunters. One must realize why some hunters would like to hunt wolves - it is the challenge of killing an apex predator. Here is a challenge: hunt elk (or deer) in the back country with bow and arrow. Hunting like this is not only challenging but one can experience the trill of hunting more on natures terms. After all, isn't that what hunting is supposed to be. The focus being on the experience and not all the importance being put on the kill.

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from wolf_lover wrote 4 years 29 weeks ago

i have been "told off" on other pages for my comments so i will ask a question or two, why do you guys believe it is your land to manage? because you live there? was it not the animals living there first? and yes i heard the guy say the lord gave you the land, but if that was true why would you had to have fought for it, surely the animals wouldve known it not theirs. im just saying that us wolf lovers and animal lovers see things differently then you hunters, and there are hurt feelings over the wolf hunt, huntergather is acting the same way i did first finding out but i was shocke and upset and i have said my sorrys for names and things i have said i just want to understand more on how you guys are thinking on the topic and understand better why you kill those who havent harmed you, please do not lash out at me, ive have done you no wrong but stated my own comment. if you feel you can help me understand better on why you guys think it your job and why you do it, then plese respond if your going to lash out and be stupid bout it then leave me alone, it would be best if idahooutdoors himself would reply and give me insight on this topic

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from JOHN ANDERSON wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

FORGET the wolves.Bring back the wild horses,an BISON.Then well all have somthing to ride an shoot.

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from wolf_lover wrote 4 years 29 weeks ago

ok i just got done reading all the comments on here, and i have a few things to say, huntergather shut up, your being stupid, your not backing anything up, and im on your side on the issue, that tells you something. and for the person who made the bambi comment, harsh and outta place dude. idahooutdoors, i will congrat you on a good hunt, i dont agree with it but im not calling you a bad person because you have different views on this then i. juliaG and northern_mi_hunter you state good points and on most i agree, but i believe someone said dont listen to the aints well i am one, and dont listen if you dont want to, but if your smart then listen and understand why some believe the way we do and why. mostof us believe everything has a right to live and it shouldnt be taken away by someone who thinks they are in control of it and the land, im not saying all of you think that way but i have heard a few say you own the lands and control are in charge of its animals, and most think is your going to hunt then only hunt to kill. someone else said that they heard the wolf is a trophy, my view on that is saying like your wife or kids is a trophy,, all i really have to say is back with the indains the wolf was thought to teacher, for hunting, for family, and for many other things, its population was fine then and they lived peacefully together, why cant we do that now.

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from huntergatherer wrote 4 years 31 weeks ago

Photos like this are a bigger threat to hunting than PETA, and so is the anti wolf mentality that dominates Idaho Fish and Game, which allows not science but politics to dominate.

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from huntergatherer wrote 4 years 32 weeks ago

This photo is an embarrassment to the hunting community. This guy has killed an animal he has no intention of eating and has perpetuated the myth that the land belongs to humans for us to manage as suits us best. I'm sure he made the ranchers happy, even though ranchers are not on the side of hunters on most issues. Hunters that shoot wolves are pawns of ranchers.

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