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January 29, 2010

Merwin: Are Some Electronics Unfair to Fish?

By John Merwin

Two major brands of marine-electronic devices are at each other’s throats this week as Humminbird (Johnson Outdoors) filed a federal lawsuit against Lowrance (Navico) alleging patent infringement. At issue is a patent--granted to Humminbird this week--regarding Humminbird’s side-imaging sonar.

Humminbird introduced side-scanning units (like the one shown here) in 2005. Last winter, Lowrance introduced a “StructureScan” add-on module for its high-end, multi-function displays. To my admittedly untrained eye, the screen views in each brand are somewhat similar, but I’m not enough of an electronics geek to ascertain--or even perhaps to understand--the difference.

What I have found from using it on the water, though, is that side-scanning sonar is very cool. The Humminbird unit I once tested would allow me to sonar scan a swath up to 480 feet wide from a slow-moving boat. Schools of baitfish around rock piles at one side or the other became quickly evident, as did underwater structure and downed trees that I never knew were there. In talking with several crappie specialists down South, I also found side-scanning to be the greatest thing ever for searching out schools of suspended or structure-hugging crappies.

It’s almost seems unfair to the fish. In fact, maybe it is unfair. I’m old enough to have fished back when “marine electronics” consisted only of a handheld compass. I located underwater structure by trial and error and marked its location by visually triangulating from shoreline landmarks.

So maybe while the big-time lawyers are duking things out over who has the latest technology, we could declare a few lakes to be “electronics-free?” That is, a few places where you have to do things the hard way. Or is the electronics genie out of the bottle, never to go back again?

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from Koldkut wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

It's out......there is no reversing it.

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from Bryan01 wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

That's a great idea, don't outlaw the electronics everywhere but pick a few lakes and prohibit their use in those lakes and see what happens a few years down the road.

It may or may not have an impact on the fish population but I would be that it does have an impact on the human population that is drawn to that lake.

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from buckhunter wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Are electronics unfair to fish? I know the electronics on my boat are useless. They continually mark fish where there are none and only reads the surface temperature when the fish are actually in the water. The only reason I have not thrown it into the lake is because it gives the correct depth and reveals changes in the bottom.

I feel if I purchased a more pricey fishfinder it would only increase my aggravation over my lack of ability to use it properly.

So to answer your question... maybe, if I knew how to use it.

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from nateshamp wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

I personally don't use electronics when fishing. I line up landmarks from shore, but I love watching many of those that do use them spend all their time using whatever gismo they have and very little time fishing. It is most apparent ice fishing and watching those that use the Vexlars. They jump from hole to hole, and never get their line wet. My feeling is use them all you want, it leaves more fish for me. I enjoy the outdoors to get away from all the hustle and bustle of the everyday world. I don't need technology to catch fish, and I don't need to catch fish or arrow a deer to enjoy hunting and fishing. Go hunting and fishing and enjoy being out there.

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from jbird wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

They already exhist, they're called the 'farm pond'. I know, I know, there's portable fish finders that you can take anywhere, but most people still fish the little 1 or 2 acre farm ponds the old fashioned way. As for big lakes, I don't necessarily think it's unfair. It definitely gives the fisherman an advantage. Kind of like a new Quantum reel is an advantage over a bamboo pole and string. Or, in hunting, a rifle compared to a spear. A game cam. compared to traditional scouting. A new lure over a hand carved one. etc. etc.
I will tell ya this, these $2000 fish finders look awesome. I don't have the money, or a friend even w/the money, but I'd love to test one out on the water.

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from vtbasser wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

I don't like the idea of eliminating waters to fish, I have electronics in my boat and it just seems unfair to me. As far as sonar and gps being unfair to fish, there is still the age old argument that you need to make them bite too. I have been in boats with the side imaging and it was great, but, I don't see it as unfair. What I do see as unfair is the BioSonix stuff by BSX, stimulating the fish to bite electronically just doesn't seem right to me. Sure the pros use 'em but you won't find one in my boat.

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from MLH wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

One still has to know how to catch them.

But, all this new technology does seem to rob us of the need to gain knowledge and ability to read the water, the weather, the time of year, etc. You, know the stuff that is passed from parents to their kids and from a master to an apprentice. Besides the deep satisfaction and connection between generations, what happens if we lose power?

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from Clay Cooper wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

I tell’ya, get a little competition and someone gets there thong in a wad! Remember this one, North Face filing a lawsuit against South Butt! I got to say, if the clientele of North Face doesn’t know the difference in “South Butt”, they really got a problem!!

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from dahlstrommt wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

I think electronics used fishin is kinda like cheating i dont really like how they are used but they have there advantages too though but i still dont like them

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from fisherman14 wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Now that I think of it, using electronics is sorta cheating. But, most fish finders I use arent very advanced and more often than not their brocken. So really all it does for me is confuse...

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from Mark J wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

I have an interesting story that pertains to the electronic issue. A couple years back my dad went fishing with an old friend on the Mississippi River that had a fancy boat decked out with all kinds of electronic fish finding gadgets. Well they motored around for a couple hours or so, stopping and fishing when they marked fish. The problem was they weren't catching any. My dad, an old timer that has never used any sort of electronic fishing aid in his life, got fed up and told his buddy to go back to a nice deep hole they had passed up earlier because they hadn't marked any fish. Well lo and behold they started hammering walleyes.
I guess the moral to that story is that technology will never replace good, old fashioned fishing knowledge.

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from Woodstock wrote 2 years 15 weeks ago

The most effective fish-finding and structure-reading tool I ever used was my mask, fins, and scuba tank.

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from tbogg10 wrote 2 years 15 weeks ago

obviously they can be very useful, but there no different than than scouting cameras in my opinion, the one i have shows the bottom structure...kind of, and it tells me the water temp and the depth, those big fancy ones are nice, but they cost more than my truck

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from tlinnj wrote 2 years 14 weeks ago

I use a Hummingbird side scan and find that I spend a huge amount of time just looking at the structures rather than fishing.
It is great to find old stumps and cover. It does help catch fish but like most finders, it produces more frustration than catching.
As far as depleting the fish stock: I throw everything back, everything.

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from buckhunter wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Are electronics unfair to fish? I know the electronics on my boat are useless. They continually mark fish where there are none and only reads the surface temperature when the fish are actually in the water. The only reason I have not thrown it into the lake is because it gives the correct depth and reveals changes in the bottom.

I feel if I purchased a more pricey fishfinder it would only increase my aggravation over my lack of ability to use it properly.

So to answer your question... maybe, if I knew how to use it.

+3 Good Comment? | | Report
from nateshamp wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

I personally don't use electronics when fishing. I line up landmarks from shore, but I love watching many of those that do use them spend all their time using whatever gismo they have and very little time fishing. It is most apparent ice fishing and watching those that use the Vexlars. They jump from hole to hole, and never get their line wet. My feeling is use them all you want, it leaves more fish for me. I enjoy the outdoors to get away from all the hustle and bustle of the everyday world. I don't need technology to catch fish, and I don't need to catch fish or arrow a deer to enjoy hunting and fishing. Go hunting and fishing and enjoy being out there.

+3 Good Comment? | | Report
from jbird wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

They already exhist, they're called the 'farm pond'. I know, I know, there's portable fish finders that you can take anywhere, but most people still fish the little 1 or 2 acre farm ponds the old fashioned way. As for big lakes, I don't necessarily think it's unfair. It definitely gives the fisherman an advantage. Kind of like a new Quantum reel is an advantage over a bamboo pole and string. Or, in hunting, a rifle compared to a spear. A game cam. compared to traditional scouting. A new lure over a hand carved one. etc. etc.
I will tell ya this, these $2000 fish finders look awesome. I don't have the money, or a friend even w/the money, but I'd love to test one out on the water.

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from vtbasser wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

I don't like the idea of eliminating waters to fish, I have electronics in my boat and it just seems unfair to me. As far as sonar and gps being unfair to fish, there is still the age old argument that you need to make them bite too. I have been in boats with the side imaging and it was great, but, I don't see it as unfair. What I do see as unfair is the BioSonix stuff by BSX, stimulating the fish to bite electronically just doesn't seem right to me. Sure the pros use 'em but you won't find one in my boat.

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from MLH wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

One still has to know how to catch them.

But, all this new technology does seem to rob us of the need to gain knowledge and ability to read the water, the weather, the time of year, etc. You, know the stuff that is passed from parents to their kids and from a master to an apprentice. Besides the deep satisfaction and connection between generations, what happens if we lose power?

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from Koldkut wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

It's out......there is no reversing it.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Bryan01 wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

That's a great idea, don't outlaw the electronics everywhere but pick a few lakes and prohibit their use in those lakes and see what happens a few years down the road.

It may or may not have an impact on the fish population but I would be that it does have an impact on the human population that is drawn to that lake.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Clay Cooper wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

I tell’ya, get a little competition and someone gets there thong in a wad! Remember this one, North Face filing a lawsuit against South Butt! I got to say, if the clientele of North Face doesn’t know the difference in “South Butt”, they really got a problem!!

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from dahlstrommt wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

I think electronics used fishin is kinda like cheating i dont really like how they are used but they have there advantages too though but i still dont like them

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from fisherman14 wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Now that I think of it, using electronics is sorta cheating. But, most fish finders I use arent very advanced and more often than not their brocken. So really all it does for me is confuse...

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Mark J wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

I have an interesting story that pertains to the electronic issue. A couple years back my dad went fishing with an old friend on the Mississippi River that had a fancy boat decked out with all kinds of electronic fish finding gadgets. Well they motored around for a couple hours or so, stopping and fishing when they marked fish. The problem was they weren't catching any. My dad, an old timer that has never used any sort of electronic fishing aid in his life, got fed up and told his buddy to go back to a nice deep hole they had passed up earlier because they hadn't marked any fish. Well lo and behold they started hammering walleyes.
I guess the moral to that story is that technology will never replace good, old fashioned fishing knowledge.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Woodstock wrote 2 years 15 weeks ago

The most effective fish-finding and structure-reading tool I ever used was my mask, fins, and scuba tank.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from tbogg10 wrote 2 years 15 weeks ago

obviously they can be very useful, but there no different than than scouting cameras in my opinion, the one i have shows the bottom structure...kind of, and it tells me the water temp and the depth, those big fancy ones are nice, but they cost more than my truck

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from tlinnj wrote 2 years 14 weeks ago

I use a Hummingbird side scan and find that I spend a huge amount of time just looking at the structures rather than fishing.
It is great to find old stumps and cover. It does help catch fish but like most finders, it produces more frustration than catching.
As far as depleting the fish stock: I throw everything back, everything.

0 Good Comment? | | Report

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