


January 11, 2010
Bourjaily: Shelling Out for "Bo Whoop"
By Philip Bourjaily
Dave and I get chided from time to time for writing about guns that cost too much for ordinary people to buy. Today’s topic is a gun I can pretty safely predict none of us will be able to afford: Nash Buckingham’s “Bo-Whoop,” probably the most famous waterfowl gun ever, goes on the auction block in March. Buckingham’s Super Fox, named for the sound of its report, has been missing for over 60 years, making it the Maltese Falcon of American doubles. Some people think it may fetch even more than the $287,500 brought in 2007 by the Parker A-1 Special made for (and never delivered to) Czar Nicholas II of Russia in 1914,

Bo Whoop is an HE grade Super Fox made in 1927 as a long-range duck gun for Buckingham, who, along with being a much-beloved outdoor writer, was a famous waterfowl shot. It weighs 9 ½ pounds and has 32-inch Full and Full barrels bored especially to shoot 3-inch loads of 4 shot. Buckingham shot it for over 20 years. Then, December 1, 1948, he and friend had their licenses checked by a warden after a duck hunt. Buckingham leaned Bo-Whoop against the fender of his car, forgot about it, and drove away.* The gun was never seen again. Buckingham had another Fox made – Bo-Whoop II – but the whereabouts of the original have been unknown. Until now.
By and large, American double lovers believe this is the real thing and not some elaborate forgery. And, apparently, despite the mysterious circumstances of the gun’s disappearance, this sale is legal. It will be interesting to see how much it brings. All I know for sure is, I won’t be the one with the winning bid.
*Who here hasn’t done that? I drove off with a Model 12 leaning against my car door once, but only went about 50 feet before I realized what I had done. The gun was fine.
Comments (54)
This is different that a review of a gun that 99.999% of us can't afford, this is history, and rightly the shot gunners "Maltese Falcon" without a doubt. I would be very interested to find out how many have owned this fine shotgun, and how it was authenticated. It would be a good read. Can we get more photos?
Ditto.
I agree with RJ 100%.. a review of a number of guns well outside our spending limits can get a little old.. but the story of a piece of shotgunning history with some questions left unanswered is always interesting. I'd like to see more on this story.. maybe just a link of the auction details when they come around..
PS Phil- I received a phone call from the History Channel's Top Shot on Friday. Sounded very good but just had a couple questions. I sent them some things that should help my case and I believe I'm supposed to hear by the end of the day today if I'll be going to LA for final casting.
I backed over my Remington 870 Super Mag a few years ago while turning around in a muddy parking area. I had left it leaning against the back bumper while removing muddy waders. Undamaged but dirty, I still hunt with it.
Hardy a Bo-Whoop story, but almost lost a new $312 shotgun. Keep those good stories coming. I can hardly afford to pay attention these days, but still enjoy a good read!
SD Whitetail Hunter -- Awesome. Good luck.
After looking at dealer prices on firearms last week I'll be counting my pennies for just a regular gun. Interesting story about Mr. Buckingham’s shotgun, keep them coming.
I don't mind you guy’s writing about guns that we can't afford. We all like to window shop! There may also be a plus for us. Maybe the gun companies will pay attention to our rude remarks... Hopefully the dollar will catch back up to the Euro and the Italian guns will come back down a bit...
I agree with Beekeeper, I enjoy reading about guns that cost more than my college tuition. I'll be very interested to know what this fetches.
SD Whitetail Hunter -- Good deal! Keep us posted.
Hope you get a go at it AND some CO elk next season!
WMH
I will be near "Buckingham Flats" with my own BO-Whomp 3 1/2"Mag this time tomorrow. Sunshine and cold in the woods, should be a good day. The days of parking your car and wading into the woods is just about over. Everything nowadays is gadget and equipment driven. The point system just about ruined interest in waterfowling for years. Reading about the glory days of "De Shootinest Gent'man" kept up my interest. The modernday shooting sportsman can also thank Henry Ford for opening up opportunities in getting to hunting locations with affordable transportation. Theres no way to replace being there. Most of the flooded timber is gone since Nash's day, thanks to the Corp of Engineers and farming practices of the mid-20th Century. Now if you are able to afford it you make your own flooded timber ala Duck Commander. Public grounds and NWR System is our best hope for future hunting grounds. Now if I get to go a half dozen times a year I've done well.
SD Whitetail Hunter--Very cool! We're all pulling for you here at F&S. When you find out more, drop me a line at the F&S home office at anthony.licata@bonniercorp.com.
I'd love to talk you about it in more detail.
Anthony Licata
Editor
Great story and gun. Some people just have TOO MUCH MONEY. I don't mind reading about guns like this, i just won't ever own any. Unless i find it on the side of the road as some lucky bloke apparently did. Or did the game warden steal it? Interesting
Interesting story! One of my father's friends, long since deceased, laid a Model 12 next to him as he ate lunch in North Dakota. He drove off without the gun, came back and never could find it.
Last fall while hunting doves in Montana, a fellow in my party laid a $1,200 double in a grass field, walked to his pickup to refill his water bottle, then couldn't locate the gun. My wife and her friend scoured the field with the guy and found the gun just as I arrived!
When I was a youngster in the early '60s I remember an older fellow in our deer hunting party laid his .30/06 on a two-track during lunch. Somebody drove over it and broke the stock in half. Now, this guy had a hook for a left hand and a ring on the stock to accommodate the hook. He roared off into Mandan, ND (about 15-20 miles) and incredibly, was back before dark with a different stock on the rifle and the ring installed!
I never lay a gun down on the ground, never lean it against a vehicle, never leave it in a sabbard on a horse. Doing so is asking for trouble.
I love reading Buckinhams books being an avid duck hunter, I once had a person try to walk of with my M12 at ATA shoot a few years ago and last year another person picked up and walked to the line to shoot thinking it was his.
Good luck SD Whitetail. We are pulling for you.
On a much sadder note. Several years ago after taking a big whitetail, in all the excitement I backed over my bow. I remembered it was back there just in time to stop my tires directly over it. Phooey!
I'm glad you guys aren't bidding because when I buy it it's going in the safe right next to my Mossberg 500. LOL
Some years ago I laid my grandfather's Model 12 on top my car, loaded my gear in, and drove off. Fortunately, the car was a convertible, and the gun just nested in the soft top. I was going thru a small town on the way home and a cop jumped out in front of me and waved me down. Unsurprisingly, he was puzzled that i should carry my shotgun on my roof. I told him that I had no concealed-carry permit and didn't want to get in trouble. He was unamused, but once I told him I was a professor from Chapel Hill he was no longer surprised, and sent me on my way with the gun inside. That piece still hammers the deer; God bless Winchester.
How was it found?
I'll keep everyone posted.
And WA Mtnhunter- I'd be just as excited if our plans for the CO elk hunt happen as I am for the chance at the show.. I'm excited to get some time in that beautiful country..
That is what I call a shotgun with character. If only it could talk we could ask. Where have you been and what have you been doing.
A few years ago The water was very low in pool number 4 at Cheyenne Bottoms Waterfowl
Refuge. Billy D and I found a rusty Remington 870 in the mud near one of the permanent blinds. We left it there for the next guy.
When I was a teen my new 12 guage pump slid off the side of dad's truck into a sandbed. Lesson learned never do that again.
I don't leave my long arms leaning against anything except their slots in my safe. I'd never lean one against a vehicle, fence, table, tree, or anything else.
That sure is a pretty shotgun!
Interesting story, would like to hear more as well.
Good luck SD.
If I had the money I would bid then put it back up!
SD_Whitetail_Hntr,
Good Luck to you and We hope you get the role and Happpy Hunting in Colorado!!!
I lean my guns against anything -- except for a vehicle. In WA State, a loaded longarm leaned against the vehicle is the same as a loaded longarm "in" the vehicle which is a fat ticket... And since the officer cannot tell if it is unloaded by just looking, he will always stop if there're guns leaning on the car.
I've lost lots of things in my lifetime, but never a gun!
An hour of driving later, I once discovered that I'd dropped my cell when getting into the car after a heavily armed walk in the woods (aka "hunting"). Drove back and found it laying where it fell -- all in one piece with no tread marks on it!
At least it has resurfaced. So many historice or old firearms get stuffed in an attic,lost, or forgotten and never recovered.
I wonder like the others about the details of it's reserection.
I enjoy the articles on old / antique firearms even though I couldn't possibly afford to buy one at an auction.
Thank you for the story.
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I am at a loss to understand how such a sale can be legal. It seems to me that the current owner is in possession of a possibly stolen shotgun. Even if Mr. Buckingham is deceased, the gun should belong to his estate or heirs.
I remember reading about fine, storied, and amazingly expensive guns and thinking, "Someday I'm gonna own ALLLL of them". Well, I think it's safe to say that won't be happening, but it's still fun to think about that.
Does anyone know where the gun was at all those years?
GOOD GOD...don't RICH Gun nuts know about the RECESSION we are in having right now? NO shotgun is worth that much $$$$$cold cash!
Nice gun by the way...;o)
Nice post Phil. On a side note, is this not the gun that Nash worked with John Olin to develop the modern 3 inch 12 gauge shell?
Any lawyers out there who can explain about possession being 9/10ths of the law and how statutes of limitations may apply to to the owner of this firearm?
I would wager that since the item was not technically stolen but rather lost or abandoned, the statute of limitations has long since passed for this relic in most any jurisdiction. If this is a problem, what about the looted mummies of Eqypt? Were they lost or abandoned by their owners or simply stolen?
good call, mtn hunter. it was lost or abandoned. i would like to know the rest of the story though. good luck sd_hunter! make us proud. if it doesn't go well, blame dave. if anyone doesn't want that gun, you could just buy it and give it to me.
I think most of us don't mind reading about guns we can't afford any more than Mr. Petzal's occasional inclusion of a picture of a beautiful woman we can't have. Life would get pretty boring without being able to dream about having things that are well out of our reach.
On a different note, Mr. Bourjaily, you have not finished your job as an esteemed member of the media until you come up with the rest of the story concerning where this gun has been all this time.
I agree.
This is more of a historical piece than a "You can never afford this even if you sell both kidneys and all of your children" piece.
I too would love to hear who found it and where it's been since. Just goes to show even people with money do stupid things.......
I have to plead guilty of leaning rifles and shotguns against trees, but not vehicles, PA also has a law against leaning a gun against a car. Even unloaded I believe. But if I see a tree with nice rough bark or a Y to lean it in and I need both hands for something I do lean it there, figure it's better than laying the gun in dirt or snow. Bad enuf the butt has to get dirty, why get the whole thing muddy or snow covered if you can avoid it?
I think it is funny that it was named after the sound of its report. One becomes familiar with the Bo-Whoop sound after living in coastal NC most of one's life. It is the distinct and peculiar sound of shotguns fired over water a goodly distance away. Sometimes it sounds more like Bloop-Bloop. The distance tunes the sound. Bo-Whoop would be closer than Bloop-Bloop. I can always tell when early duck season begins because I can hear the first shots from my bedroom.
All I can say for the featured shotgun is "nice Bo-Whoopers!"
Be a good stoty for F&S so I can take and read it as I want....
Loverly gun, too rich for me though. I try never to lay a firearm on the ground, it just feels taboo, Like one is committing some kind of sin.
Good luck SD Whitetail hunter, I'll look for you on History channel!
Mr. Buckingham's piece of history could bring $500,000 were it sold via a raffle. At $100 per ticket, limited to 5,000 chances, most of us "ordinary people" could justify the expense. Much better odds than any lottery ticket. A conservation organization such as DU could buy it and easily double (or better) their investment.
Delightful subject...couple of comments: one, Zermoid is right--Pennsylvania frowns mightily on leaning a firearm against a vehicle, and they are correct. Nash Buckingham’s “Bo-Whoop” shows that it is a good habit to break.
Two...I like it that Buckingham hunted with this beautiful piece for 20 years, and did not lock it a safe somewhere...and that may be where it is headed, now. Wouldn't it be great to meet someone in the marsh somewhere, and see the venerable old 12ga. Fox cradled in his arms?
We wouldn't mind hearing the story, either, if it is worth the telling....??
Blue
Ok, Phil; you have my curiosity up. Having read all of Buckingham's books and being a somewhat nutty gun collector and duck hunter, I have often wondered what happened to Bo Whoop. Obviously you know, so, WHERE THE HELL has this gun been? Or, are you saving it for a full length story?
This is a story of lost and found ... not stolen.
Phil-
Keep us posted with this interesting story. I'm wondering about the provenance, and what "auction block" it will be auctioned at in March?
Whoever "found" that beautiful shotgun must not have been an honest man. I'm sure Nash advertised its loss far and wide. I couldn't have lived with myself and I really like old Fox shotguns. It would be like "finding" some hunter's beloved lost birddog and keeping it. Good to see that the gun was well taken care of.
A closer look at the picture reveals a Julia Auctions monogram. Might be worth checking out, guys and Bella.
duckcreekdick,
You hit the nail squarely on the head regarding lack of honesty.
Forty years ago,I was hunting Alaskan Brown Bear. The guide and I came to a water crossing, the guide explained that a year earlier while crossing on a fallen log his client took a tumble into fast moving current and lost his rifle, not to be found despite a long search. While the guide was talking I noticed something moving in the current. We got a stick and pulled, low and behold what I had seen was the rifle sling attached to the sunken 300 H & H. It was ruined, but we sent it to him and he really appreciated being reunited with his old rifle.
Buckingham put ads in the paper, and his friends and the police looked hard for the gun and never found it. He had anohter made just like it (Bo-Whoop II) except with a straight grip.
And yes, this gun was designed and bored to shoot Winchester magnums. Gunsmith Burt Becker of Philadelphia, the most famous barrel doctor of the day, bored the gun specifically for the Winchester ammunition.
When I find out the rest of the story, I will post up again.
Lost n found isn't a matter of dishonesty, IMO, it's in the grey zone. I'd have tried to find the owner of such a gun. Who knows whether or not the fellow who found it tried, but it was his call to make.
My 9 y.o. son found a diamond ring in the supermarket last week. When he tried to turn it in the clerk said that he can't leave his name to get it if no one claims it. Clerk said that the ring would go to Safeway Corporate if no one claimed it. I let my son choose what to do. He chose to turn it in anyhow on the theory that the owner would probably look for it at the supermarket. I was proud of the choice, but I'd have understood if he'd kept it.
Wow. I love mysteries like this shotgun. There must be one great story behind it between the Lost and Found dates.
Something a gun like this can stay underground so long.
I too will be interested in learning about "the rest of (Bo-whoop's)story." But, for those who seem to prefer used guns, don't we all think about each scratch and nick on the used firearms we purchase? I just bought my first two side by sides from a neighbor who restores beat-up double shotguns. One is a real beauty, a Belgium 16 ga. brought back to as-new condition while the other is a real fixer-upper imported by Paul Jaeger, a custom rifle manufacturer from Eastern PA that I plan to to work on myself.
I can't spell or type,but will be a cold day you know where when I cought up (if could afford it) that kinda $ for a used gun period.I will just use my Sterlingworth and Cooper in l6 and 12-last but not least my 410 Stevens had for 35 yrs, never fired and be happy. But if you can afford go for it. With that kinda $ I could go west several times and live it up. Better yet, I'd buy a parcel of land with a comfy Cabin and stay till I froze or close to it. Been west many tims, but never in erly spring, be nice to go and just look and maybe hunt a few coyotes, foxes and a Cougar or two. We all wish for a lot which is find, but sometimes we get carried away with our WANT's. Those old trusty Stevens/Savage/Sears do a good job on birds even today.
Not being a smart Ass, but when and who made the first Henry Bolt gun and what caliber? Also, did Henry ever make a handgun?. I found a 44-40 Oct. bbl to match my Uberti 44-40 handgun, but can;t just yet. Think Benelli imports them from Italy at about l500.00 . I see to many guns on this Bog, gonna have to look and read the war between Leno and Obran, I'll pit my $ on Leno winning his time slot as NBC rating already droped 30 % with the what-evr you call him, surely not a host.
You guys who use a rifled bbl in your shotgun, maybe using sabots, what do you zero at and what is greatest distance you have killed animal? Also, will a good regular scope work on it or does it require a Shotgun/B/P scope? If a 3 x 9 x 40 Leupold,Nikon, Bushnell, etc. wor ok on a 300 Wi Mag, why wan;t it stand up to a shotgun or B/P gun? Am told a B/p gun will burst the glass, etc in a non B/P scope, I think that;s a crop? What do you guys think.
No kidding Buckstopper! Phil certainly knows how to flood some timber. There's a video on their site, www.duckcommander.com , that has some great scenes showing off their land. It's pretty good stuff.
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This is different that a review of a gun that 99.999% of us can't afford, this is history, and rightly the shot gunners "Maltese Falcon" without a doubt. I would be very interested to find out how many have owned this fine shotgun, and how it was authenticated. It would be a good read. Can we get more photos?
I agree with RJ 100%.. a review of a number of guns well outside our spending limits can get a little old.. but the story of a piece of shotgunning history with some questions left unanswered is always interesting. I'd like to see more on this story.. maybe just a link of the auction details when they come around..
PS Phil- I received a phone call from the History Channel's Top Shot on Friday. Sounded very good but just had a couple questions. I sent them some things that should help my case and I believe I'm supposed to hear by the end of the day today if I'll be going to LA for final casting.
SD Whitetail Hunter--Very cool! We're all pulling for you here at F&S. When you find out more, drop me a line at the F&S home office at anthony.licata@bonniercorp.com.
I'd love to talk you about it in more detail.
Anthony Licata
Editor
I backed over my Remington 870 Super Mag a few years ago while turning around in a muddy parking area. I had left it leaning against the back bumper while removing muddy waders. Undamaged but dirty, I still hunt with it.
Hardy a Bo-Whoop story, but almost lost a new $312 shotgun. Keep those good stories coming. I can hardly afford to pay attention these days, but still enjoy a good read!
Good luck SD Whitetail. We are pulling for you.
On a much sadder note. Several years ago after taking a big whitetail, in all the excitement I backed over my bow. I remembered it was back there just in time to stop my tires directly over it. Phooey!
I'm glad you guys aren't bidding because when I buy it it's going in the safe right next to my Mossberg 500. LOL
I'll keep everyone posted.
And WA Mtnhunter- I'd be just as excited if our plans for the CO elk hunt happen as I am for the chance at the show.. I'm excited to get some time in that beautiful country..
I don't leave my long arms leaning against anything except their slots in my safe. I'd never lean one against a vehicle, fence, table, tree, or anything else.
That sure is a pretty shotgun!
Ditto.
I agree with Beekeeper, I enjoy reading about guns that cost more than my college tuition. I'll be very interested to know what this fetches.
SD Whitetail Hunter -- Good deal! Keep us posted.
Hope you get a go at it AND some CO elk next season!
WMH
I will be near "Buckingham Flats" with my own BO-Whomp 3 1/2"Mag this time tomorrow. Sunshine and cold in the woods, should be a good day. The days of parking your car and wading into the woods is just about over. Everything nowadays is gadget and equipment driven. The point system just about ruined interest in waterfowling for years. Reading about the glory days of "De Shootinest Gent'man" kept up my interest. The modernday shooting sportsman can also thank Henry Ford for opening up opportunities in getting to hunting locations with affordable transportation. Theres no way to replace being there. Most of the flooded timber is gone since Nash's day, thanks to the Corp of Engineers and farming practices of the mid-20th Century. Now if you are able to afford it you make your own flooded timber ala Duck Commander. Public grounds and NWR System is our best hope for future hunting grounds. Now if I get to go a half dozen times a year I've done well.
Great story and gun. Some people just have TOO MUCH MONEY. I don't mind reading about guns like this, i just won't ever own any. Unless i find it on the side of the road as some lucky bloke apparently did. Or did the game warden steal it? Interesting
Interesting story! One of my father's friends, long since deceased, laid a Model 12 next to him as he ate lunch in North Dakota. He drove off without the gun, came back and never could find it.
Last fall while hunting doves in Montana, a fellow in my party laid a $1,200 double in a grass field, walked to his pickup to refill his water bottle, then couldn't locate the gun. My wife and her friend scoured the field with the guy and found the gun just as I arrived!
When I was a youngster in the early '60s I remember an older fellow in our deer hunting party laid his .30/06 on a two-track during lunch. Somebody drove over it and broke the stock in half. Now, this guy had a hook for a left hand and a ring on the stock to accommodate the hook. He roared off into Mandan, ND (about 15-20 miles) and incredibly, was back before dark with a different stock on the rifle and the ring installed!
I never lay a gun down on the ground, never lean it against a vehicle, never leave it in a sabbard on a horse. Doing so is asking for trouble.
Some years ago I laid my grandfather's Model 12 on top my car, loaded my gear in, and drove off. Fortunately, the car was a convertible, and the gun just nested in the soft top. I was going thru a small town on the way home and a cop jumped out in front of me and waved me down. Unsurprisingly, he was puzzled that i should carry my shotgun on my roof. I told him that I had no concealed-carry permit and didn't want to get in trouble. He was unamused, but once I told him I was a professor from Chapel Hill he was no longer surprised, and sent me on my way with the gun inside. That piece still hammers the deer; God bless Winchester.
How was it found?
GOOD GOD...don't RICH Gun nuts know about the RECESSION we are in having right now? NO shotgun is worth that much $$$$$cold cash!
Nice gun by the way...;o)
I would wager that since the item was not technically stolen but rather lost or abandoned, the statute of limitations has long since passed for this relic in most any jurisdiction. If this is a problem, what about the looted mummies of Eqypt? Were they lost or abandoned by their owners or simply stolen?
SD Whitetail Hunter -- Awesome. Good luck.
After looking at dealer prices on firearms last week I'll be counting my pennies for just a regular gun. Interesting story about Mr. Buckingham’s shotgun, keep them coming.
I don't mind you guy’s writing about guns that we can't afford. We all like to window shop! There may also be a plus for us. Maybe the gun companies will pay attention to our rude remarks... Hopefully the dollar will catch back up to the Euro and the Italian guns will come back down a bit...
I love reading Buckinhams books being an avid duck hunter, I once had a person try to walk of with my M12 at ATA shoot a few years ago and last year another person picked up and walked to the line to shoot thinking it was his.
That is what I call a shotgun with character. If only it could talk we could ask. Where have you been and what have you been doing.
A few years ago The water was very low in pool number 4 at Cheyenne Bottoms Waterfowl
Refuge. Billy D and I found a rusty Remington 870 in the mud near one of the permanent blinds. We left it there for the next guy.
When I was a teen my new 12 guage pump slid off the side of dad's truck into a sandbed. Lesson learned never do that again.
Interesting story, would like to hear more as well.
Good luck SD.
SD_Whitetail_Hntr,
Good Luck to you and We hope you get the role and Happpy Hunting in Colorado!!!
I lean my guns against anything -- except for a vehicle. In WA State, a loaded longarm leaned against the vehicle is the same as a loaded longarm "in" the vehicle which is a fat ticket... And since the officer cannot tell if it is unloaded by just looking, he will always stop if there're guns leaning on the car.
I've lost lots of things in my lifetime, but never a gun!
An hour of driving later, I once discovered that I'd dropped my cell when getting into the car after a heavily armed walk in the woods (aka "hunting"). Drove back and found it laying where it fell -- all in one piece with no tread marks on it!
At least it has resurfaced. So many historice or old firearms get stuffed in an attic,lost, or forgotten and never recovered.
I wonder like the others about the details of it's reserection.
I enjoy the articles on old / antique firearms even though I couldn't possibly afford to buy one at an auction.
Thank you for the story.
im rewriting my christmas list
I am at a loss to understand how such a sale can be legal. It seems to me that the current owner is in possession of a possibly stolen shotgun. Even if Mr. Buckingham is deceased, the gun should belong to his estate or heirs.
I remember reading about fine, storied, and amazingly expensive guns and thinking, "Someday I'm gonna own ALLLL of them". Well, I think it's safe to say that won't be happening, but it's still fun to think about that.
Does anyone know where the gun was at all those years?
Nice post Phil. On a side note, is this not the gun that Nash worked with John Olin to develop the modern 3 inch 12 gauge shell?
Any lawyers out there who can explain about possession being 9/10ths of the law and how statutes of limitations may apply to to the owner of this firearm?
good call, mtn hunter. it was lost or abandoned. i would like to know the rest of the story though. good luck sd_hunter! make us proud. if it doesn't go well, blame dave. if anyone doesn't want that gun, you could just buy it and give it to me.
I think most of us don't mind reading about guns we can't afford any more than Mr. Petzal's occasional inclusion of a picture of a beautiful woman we can't have. Life would get pretty boring without being able to dream about having things that are well out of our reach.
On a different note, Mr. Bourjaily, you have not finished your job as an esteemed member of the media until you come up with the rest of the story concerning where this gun has been all this time.
Whoever "found" that beautiful shotgun must not have been an honest man. I'm sure Nash advertised its loss far and wide. I couldn't have lived with myself and I really like old Fox shotguns. It would be like "finding" some hunter's beloved lost birddog and keeping it. Good to see that the gun was well taken care of.
If I had the money I would bid then put it back up!
Mr. Buckingham's piece of history could bring $500,000 were it sold via a raffle. At $100 per ticket, limited to 5,000 chances, most of us "ordinary people" could justify the expense. Much better odds than any lottery ticket. A conservation organization such as DU could buy it and easily double (or better) their investment.
duckcreekdick,
You hit the nail squarely on the head regarding lack of honesty.
Forty years ago,I was hunting Alaskan Brown Bear. The guide and I came to a water crossing, the guide explained that a year earlier while crossing on a fallen log his client took a tumble into fast moving current and lost his rifle, not to be found despite a long search. While the guide was talking I noticed something moving in the current. We got a stick and pulled, low and behold what I had seen was the rifle sling attached to the sunken 300 H & H. It was ruined, but we sent it to him and he really appreciated being reunited with his old rifle.
Lost n found isn't a matter of dishonesty, IMO, it's in the grey zone. I'd have tried to find the owner of such a gun. Who knows whether or not the fellow who found it tried, but it was his call to make.
My 9 y.o. son found a diamond ring in the supermarket last week. When he tried to turn it in the clerk said that he can't leave his name to get it if no one claims it. Clerk said that the ring would go to Safeway Corporate if no one claimed it. I let my son choose what to do. He chose to turn it in anyhow on the theory that the owner would probably look for it at the supermarket. I was proud of the choice, but I'd have understood if he'd kept it.
I too will be interested in learning about "the rest of (Bo-whoop's)story." But, for those who seem to prefer used guns, don't we all think about each scratch and nick on the used firearms we purchase? I just bought my first two side by sides from a neighbor who restores beat-up double shotguns. One is a real beauty, a Belgium 16 ga. brought back to as-new condition while the other is a real fixer-upper imported by Paul Jaeger, a custom rifle manufacturer from Eastern PA that I plan to to work on myself.
I agree.
This is more of a historical piece than a "You can never afford this even if you sell both kidneys and all of your children" piece.
I too would love to hear who found it and where it's been since. Just goes to show even people with money do stupid things.......
I have to plead guilty of leaning rifles and shotguns against trees, but not vehicles, PA also has a law against leaning a gun against a car. Even unloaded I believe. But if I see a tree with nice rough bark or a Y to lean it in and I need both hands for something I do lean it there, figure it's better than laying the gun in dirt or snow. Bad enuf the butt has to get dirty, why get the whole thing muddy or snow covered if you can avoid it?
I think it is funny that it was named after the sound of its report. One becomes familiar with the Bo-Whoop sound after living in coastal NC most of one's life. It is the distinct and peculiar sound of shotguns fired over water a goodly distance away. Sometimes it sounds more like Bloop-Bloop. The distance tunes the sound. Bo-Whoop would be closer than Bloop-Bloop. I can always tell when early duck season begins because I can hear the first shots from my bedroom.
All I can say for the featured shotgun is "nice Bo-Whoopers!"
Be a good stoty for F&S so I can take and read it as I want....
Loverly gun, too rich for me though. I try never to lay a firearm on the ground, it just feels taboo, Like one is committing some kind of sin.
Good luck SD Whitetail hunter, I'll look for you on History channel!
Delightful subject...couple of comments: one, Zermoid is right--Pennsylvania frowns mightily on leaning a firearm against a vehicle, and they are correct. Nash Buckingham’s “Bo-Whoop” shows that it is a good habit to break.
Two...I like it that Buckingham hunted with this beautiful piece for 20 years, and did not lock it a safe somewhere...and that may be where it is headed, now. Wouldn't it be great to meet someone in the marsh somewhere, and see the venerable old 12ga. Fox cradled in his arms?
We wouldn't mind hearing the story, either, if it is worth the telling....??
Blue
Ok, Phil; you have my curiosity up. Having read all of Buckingham's books and being a somewhat nutty gun collector and duck hunter, I have often wondered what happened to Bo Whoop. Obviously you know, so, WHERE THE HELL has this gun been? Or, are you saving it for a full length story?
This is a story of lost and found ... not stolen.
Phil-
Keep us posted with this interesting story. I'm wondering about the provenance, and what "auction block" it will be auctioned at in March?
A closer look at the picture reveals a Julia Auctions monogram. Might be worth checking out, guys and Bella.
Buckingham put ads in the paper, and his friends and the police looked hard for the gun and never found it. He had anohter made just like it (Bo-Whoop II) except with a straight grip.
And yes, this gun was designed and bored to shoot Winchester magnums. Gunsmith Burt Becker of Philadelphia, the most famous barrel doctor of the day, bored the gun specifically for the Winchester ammunition.
When I find out the rest of the story, I will post up again.
Wow. I love mysteries like this shotgun. There must be one great story behind it between the Lost and Found dates.
Something a gun like this can stay underground so long.
I can't spell or type,but will be a cold day you know where when I cought up (if could afford it) that kinda $ for a used gun period.I will just use my Sterlingworth and Cooper in l6 and 12-last but not least my 410 Stevens had for 35 yrs, never fired and be happy. But if you can afford go for it. With that kinda $ I could go west several times and live it up. Better yet, I'd buy a parcel of land with a comfy Cabin and stay till I froze or close to it. Been west many tims, but never in erly spring, be nice to go and just look and maybe hunt a few coyotes, foxes and a Cougar or two. We all wish for a lot which is find, but sometimes we get carried away with our WANT's. Those old trusty Stevens/Savage/Sears do a good job on birds even today.
Not being a smart Ass, but when and who made the first Henry Bolt gun and what caliber? Also, did Henry ever make a handgun?. I found a 44-40 Oct. bbl to match my Uberti 44-40 handgun, but can;t just yet. Think Benelli imports them from Italy at about l500.00 . I see to many guns on this Bog, gonna have to look and read the war between Leno and Obran, I'll pit my $ on Leno winning his time slot as NBC rating already droped 30 % with the what-evr you call him, surely not a host.
You guys who use a rifled bbl in your shotgun, maybe using sabots, what do you zero at and what is greatest distance you have killed animal? Also, will a good regular scope work on it or does it require a Shotgun/B/P scope? If a 3 x 9 x 40 Leupold,Nikon, Bushnell, etc. wor ok on a 300 Wi Mag, why wan;t it stand up to a shotgun or B/P gun? Am told a B/p gun will burst the glass, etc in a non B/P scope, I think that;s a crop? What do you guys think.
No kidding Buckstopper! Phil certainly knows how to flood some timber. There's a video on their site, www.duckcommander.com , that has some great scenes showing off their land. It's pretty good stuff.
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