


February 22, 2010
Petzal: Fun Gun Wisdom from the World Wide Web
By David E. Petzal
Clint Smith, Director of Thunder Ranch, is part drill instructor, part stand up comic. Here are a few of his observations on tactics, firearms, self defense and life as we know it in the civilized world.
1) "The handgun would not be my choice of weapon if I knew I was going to a fight....I'd choose a rifle, a shotgun, an RPG or an atomic bomb instead."
2) "The two most important rules in a gunfight are: Always cheat and Always win."
3) "Every time I teach a class, I discover I don't know something."
4) "Don't forget, incoming fire has the right of way."
5) "Make your attacker advance through a wall of bullets. I may get killed with my own gun, but he's gonna have to beat me to death with it, cause it's going to be empty."
6) "If you're not shootin', you should be loadin'. If you're not loadin', you should be movin', if you're not movin', someone's gonna cut your head off and put it on a stick."
7) "When you reload in low light encounters, don't put your flashlight in your back pocket... If you light yourself up, you'll look like an angel or the tooth fairy...and you're gonna be one of 'em pretty soon."
8) "Do something. It may be wrong, but do something."
9) "Nothing adds a little class to a sniper course like a babe in a Ghilliesuit."
10) "Shoot what's available, as long as it's available, until something else becomes available."
11) "If you carry a gun, people will call you paranoid. That's ridiculous. If I have a gun, what in the hell do I have to be paranoid for."
12) "Don't shoot fast, shoot good."
13) "You can say 'stop' or 'alto' or use any other word you think will work but I've found that a large bore muzzle pointed at someone's head is pretty much the universal language."
14) "You have the rest of your life to solve your problems. How long you live depends on how well you do it."
15) "You cannot save the planet. You may be able to save yourself and your family."
And here's some more gun wisdom from sources known and unknown...
"The purpose of fighting is to win! There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either."
The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental.
Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck.
I carry a gun cause a cop is too heavy.
When seconds count, the cops are just minutes away.
A reporter did a human-interest piece on the Texas Rangers. The reporter recognized the Colt Model 1911 the Ranger was carrying and asked him 'Why do you carry a 45?' The Ranger responded, 'Because they don't make a 46.'
An armed man will kill an unarmed man with monotonous regularity.
The old sheriff was attending an awards dinner when a lady commented on his wearing his sidearm. 'Sheriff, I see you have your pistol. Are you expecting trouble?' 'No ma'am. If I were expecting trouble, I would have brought my rifle.'
Beware the man who only has one gun. He probably knows how to use it!
"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him."
-G. K. Chesterton
A people that values its privileges above its principles will soon lose both.
"Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not."
~ Thomas Jefferson
"A general dissolution of principles and manners will more surely overthrow the liberties of Americathan the whole force of the common enemy." --Samuel Adams
Comments (59)
words from a very wise man. hoorah.
Exactly!
I enjoyed this.
Man, I love that TJ quote! And number 11.
Spoken like a true Clint.
Samuel Adams' words offer sad foresight. Our founding fathers were wise from experience that is beyond the grasp most of our leaders today.
Truer words never spoken
Words to live by, literally.
Remember the last one the next time you're about the shout down that idiot who doesn't see it your way.
Good advice I passed it on to the few people I care about.
Words of wisdom. Number 12 just about sums it all up,
if you add Sgt. Frick's axiom, "Never be unarmed."
The revolution has been pulled off by the "Change" politicians in D.C. in their takeover of a huge sector of our formerly free market economy. Just like in the Weimar Republic and the Russian Revolution 1917, the real revolution happened very quietly, the shooting came later.
good stuff.
This comment, cleaned up to make it past the F&S censors (getting a little hyper-sensitive, guys) comes from the opening scene of the movie "Patton". I have always believed it to be from an actual speech delivered by the great general himself, so I assume it is authentic:
"No sob ever won a war by dying for his country. You win a war by making the other poor sob die for his country."
I love that guys videos. Informative AND entertaining.
ricefarm-
According to my late father, who was in a photo-recon outfit attached to Patton's Third Army, Patton the Elder was not near as rough in his language as Hollywierd has portrayed him.
I agree with all!
crm3006
Thanks for the info. Sad to say all I know about George Patton comes from movies. I need to find a book that gives an accurate picture of the man. Does anyone have any suggestions? I do think he would have agreed with most of the quotes above.
ricefarm-
Try "Patton: Ordeal and Triumph," by Ladislas Farago. Should be in a used book store, or at Amazon.
crm
My favorite is "Engage the enemy until it changes form" that was during a motivational speach before we went into Iraq a few years ago.
Good stuff.
anything worth shooting once is worth shooting twice.
When attacked, deprive the enemy of hiding and put them on the endangered list. 7.62 NATO M118!!
Why shoot twice when you can shoot once, 45 ACP!
Bingo!
WAM
...#1, #2, #3, and #5......yup. That about covers it.
S Ga
Great advice, should be etched in stone.
I especially like that one about the old sheriff wearing his sidearm at the awards dinner.
Rice Farm PATTON, Ladislas Farego, The Patton Papers , Martin Blumenson.
Sorry Crm did not know you had answered first, Scrolling too quick.
Whoever said there is no victory in defense must not have watched the last Super Bowl.
"War as I knew it" George Smith Patton Jr.
A nation that draws too broad a difference between it's scholars and it's warriors will have it's thinking done by cowards, and it's fighting done by fools. - Thucydides (471 BC - 400 BC)
Football is NOT ARMED COMBAT 99explorer.
Sga 4 also should not be forgotten.
Phil,
It is impossible, at least for me, to find your email address. I would like to send you a copy of my book. Maybe you will read it, say good things, and I will finally be able to afford to buy a gun from Freedom Arms.
This is the book. It has guns in it.
http://www.amazon.com/American-Apocalypse-Beginning-1-nova/dp/1449575285
If I new I was going to be involved in a gunfight I'd pack my .40 but bring a shotgun as primary.
I liked the old man one because it's true and he can get away with that excuse.
O'HELL!
Going into a gun fight?
The you got to have one of these babies!!!
Dillon Aero, Inc M-134 Mini Gun!
ROCK N' ROLL BABY!
http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/dillon-aero/3c8a181aa8b51fe8ef7a3...
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/gatlin-gun-gun-of-hell/dd93f1d43f...
I like these Quotes, and mostly because they are not politically correct!
It's quite amazing how in our nation's history in forming a free state so many groups had been discriminated against, but FREEDOM gave them a goal to live for even if took generations to achieve!
Just thinkin` outloud...
“No one has the right to destroy another person's belief by demanding empirical evidence.”
-Ann Landers, former director of Handgun Control, Inc.
That was also a great quote from BigJim about scholars and warriors.
I love um all.
Words to live by.
I have a real appreciation for the one about the old man because I am rapidly becoming one, and, yes, I will.
i wanna frame this
99explorer
ROGER THAT!
History, echos and falls on deaf ears with dull minds!
+1 for the both of'ya!
Moishe
Football is NOT ARMED COMBAT 99explorer?
Depends on the definition of ARMED COMBAT is?
99explorer was referring to Foot Ball Game or two teams with two legged locomotives ARMED with intelligence Sir :)
The Dillon M134D Gatling Gun is the finest small caliber, defense suppression weapon available. It is a six barreled, electrically driven machine gun chambered in 7.62mm NATO and fires at a fixed rate of 3,000 shots per minute. Gatling Guns typically feed from a 3,000 or 4,400 round magazine. They are capable of long periods of continuous fire without threat or damage to the weapon making them an excellent choice for defensive suppression.
Lets see?
3000 rounds per minute
say even at .35 cents per round
cost to shoot, $1050 per minute , plus wear and tear on parts!
the sensical credo. amen.
"If I were expecting trouble, I would have brought my rifle." - Words to live by.
If you do not stand for something, you will fall for anything.
Everyone needs something to believe in, so I believe I will remember these principles.
Got to LOVE the COMMON SENSE this man has !
I kinda paraphase the 'old man line' whenever one of my daughters randy suitors gives me 'the look' . :-D
Last night, LUKE AFB Arizona. Car vs Military Police Fire Power, not a good move on the driver!
CJ there hasn't been a "free market" since before Cheney met with Enron to fix California natural gas rates. When we bail out banks and car manufacturers it isn't "free market". When industries and agribusiness demand subsidies it ain't free market and when the nation gets stripped of industry because a tiny percentage of magnates think they can make more money by paying third worlders to do the work, that ain't exactly free market either. We haven't had a "free market" in decades. Wake up dude.
99explorer was referring to Foot Ball Game or two teams with two legged locomotives ARMED with intelligence Sir :)
Ever listen to some of those two legged locomotive try to Speak? CLAY ? With a few exceptions not many do so well at it.
Love em all.
Unofficial motto of 77 SFG " In a fair fight, bug out."
Big Jim:
"A nation that draws too broad a difference between it's scholars and it's warriors will have it's thinking done by cowards, and it's fighting done by fools. - Thucydides (471 BC - 400 BC)"--- fantastic quote. And we are just about there now.
I liked the 'old man' wisdom, too.
My favorite rule of gunfighting has always been Rule #1, "Have a gun." For the big-bore guys I like Corollary #1, "A .22 in your pocket is worth three .45s back at the house." Corollary #2 is "Better tried by 12 than carried by six." Corollary #3, from Massad Ayoob in response to #2, is "Better be acquitted by 12 than raped (in the prison shower) by six." Never forget that the law and our courts can take away the very things you defended from the attacker in the first place, and adjust your defense strategies accordingly.
Samuel Adams' words offer sad foresight. Our founding fathers were wise from experience that is beyond the grasp most of our leaders today.
MLH,
That is because most of our founders were fresh from a revolt against the GOV "Taxation without representation"
Whom sounds like a common theme...
In Vietnam, when the M-16 would fire till dry on one trigger pull, there were two ways to say the same thing:
"When in doubt, empty the magazine!"
or
"When in doubt, spray about."
From the late, great Bill Jordan on gunfighting:(from his book "No Second Place Winner")
"TAKE YOUR TIME, FAST."
Regarding Clint's observation of the universal language of a large muzzle pointed at the head; a game warden friend said it would make non-English speaking persons remember they could understand English after all.
Having learned that, I recently acquired a Saiga 12 ga. shotgun with 3 12 round clips for home and personal defense. In Texas,you don't need a permit to carry one of those alley sweepers in the truck. That's 432 total buckshot pellets when the clip runs out. A 20 round drum magazine is also available.
The words "intelligent" and "articulate" are used together to describe an exceptional person, because both attributes do not commonly reside in the same person.
"When you throw the ball, three thing can happen - and two of them are bad."
General Robert Neyland, Univ. of Tennessee
"Nothing wrong with shooting, so long as the right people get shot."
-Clint Eastwood, as Dirty Harry in "Magnum Force"
You gents on my email list check out the sniper shot I sent you today. The goblin is holding a cocked revolver to a womans head. Watch his right eye closely as it disappears. This is what snipers train for.
99explorer
That "throw the ball" quote is often attributed to Woody Hayes and Darrell Royal among others. I have also heard it attributed to Bear Bryant.
I do not doubt that the great General Neyland said it first, however
Haha great quotes. I'll have to pass these on to some friends.
"Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't"- N/A
these are some good quotes
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A nation that draws too broad a difference between it's scholars and it's warriors will have it's thinking done by cowards, and it's fighting done by fools. - Thucydides (471 BC - 400 BC)
Words to live by.
I have a real appreciation for the one about the old man because I am rapidly becoming one, and, yes, I will.
words from a very wise man. hoorah.
This comment, cleaned up to make it past the F&S censors (getting a little hyper-sensitive, guys) comes from the opening scene of the movie "Patton". I have always believed it to be from an actual speech delivered by the great general himself, so I assume it is authentic:
"No sob ever won a war by dying for his country. You win a war by making the other poor sob die for his country."
I like these Quotes, and mostly because they are not politically correct!
It's quite amazing how in our nation's history in forming a free state so many groups had been discriminated against, but FREEDOM gave them a goal to live for even if took generations to achieve!
Just thinkin` outloud...
That was also a great quote from BigJim about scholars and warriors.
Exactly!
I enjoyed this.
Samuel Adams' words offer sad foresight. Our founding fathers were wise from experience that is beyond the grasp most of our leaders today.
anything worth shooting once is worth shooting twice.
Bingo!
WAM
...#1, #2, #3, and #5......yup. That about covers it.
S Ga
the sensical credo. amen.
Got to LOVE the COMMON SENSE this man has !
Man, I love that TJ quote! And number 11.
Spoken like a true Clint.
Truer words never spoken
Words to live by, literally.
Remember the last one the next time you're about the shout down that idiot who doesn't see it your way.
The revolution has been pulled off by the "Change" politicians in D.C. in their takeover of a huge sector of our formerly free market economy. Just like in the Weimar Republic and the Russian Revolution 1917, the real revolution happened very quietly, the shooting came later.
crm3006
Thanks for the info. Sad to say all I know about George Patton comes from movies. I need to find a book that gives an accurate picture of the man. Does anyone have any suggestions? I do think he would have agreed with most of the quotes above.
My favorite is "Engage the enemy until it changes form" that was during a motivational speach before we went into Iraq a few years ago.
Good stuff.
When attacked, deprive the enemy of hiding and put them on the endangered list. 7.62 NATO M118!!
Great advice, should be etched in stone.
I especially like that one about the old sheriff wearing his sidearm at the awards dinner.
Whoever said there is no victory in defense must not have watched the last Super Bowl.
If I new I was going to be involved in a gunfight I'd pack my .40 but bring a shotgun as primary.
I liked the old man one because it's true and he can get away with that excuse.
“No one has the right to destroy another person's belief by demanding empirical evidence.”
-Ann Landers, former director of Handgun Control, Inc.
I love um all.
i wanna frame this
Moishe
Football is NOT ARMED COMBAT 99explorer?
Depends on the definition of ARMED COMBAT is?
99explorer was referring to Foot Ball Game or two teams with two legged locomotives ARMED with intelligence Sir :)
If you do not stand for something, you will fall for anything.
Everyone needs something to believe in, so I believe I will remember these principles.
I kinda paraphase the 'old man line' whenever one of my daughters randy suitors gives me 'the look' . :-D
Big Jim:
"A nation that draws too broad a difference between it's scholars and it's warriors will have it's thinking done by cowards, and it's fighting done by fools. - Thucydides (471 BC - 400 BC)"--- fantastic quote. And we are just about there now.
I liked the 'old man' wisdom, too.
My favorite rule of gunfighting has always been Rule #1, "Have a gun." For the big-bore guys I like Corollary #1, "A .22 in your pocket is worth three .45s back at the house." Corollary #2 is "Better tried by 12 than carried by six." Corollary #3, from Massad Ayoob in response to #2, is "Better be acquitted by 12 than raped (in the prison shower) by six." Never forget that the law and our courts can take away the very things you defended from the attacker in the first place, and adjust your defense strategies accordingly.
99explorer
That "throw the ball" quote is often attributed to Woody Hayes and Darrell Royal among others. I have also heard it attributed to Bear Bryant.
I do not doubt that the great General Neyland said it first, however
Good advice I passed it on to the few people I care about.
Words of wisdom. Number 12 just about sums it all up,
if you add Sgt. Frick's axiom, "Never be unarmed."
good stuff.
I love that guys videos. Informative AND entertaining.
ricefarm-
According to my late father, who was in a photo-recon outfit attached to Patton's Third Army, Patton the Elder was not near as rough in his language as Hollywierd has portrayed him.
I agree with all!
ricefarm-
Try "Patton: Ordeal and Triumph," by Ladislas Farago. Should be in a used book store, or at Amazon.
crm
Why shoot twice when you can shoot once, 45 ACP!
Sorry Crm did not know you had answered first, Scrolling too quick.
"War as I knew it" George Smith Patton Jr.
99explorer
ROGER THAT!
History, echos and falls on deaf ears with dull minds!
+1 for the both of'ya!
"If I were expecting trouble, I would have brought my rifle." - Words to live by.
99explorer was referring to Foot Ball Game or two teams with two legged locomotives ARMED with intelligence Sir :)
Ever listen to some of those two legged locomotive try to Speak? CLAY ? With a few exceptions not many do so well at it.
Love em all.
Unofficial motto of 77 SFG " In a fair fight, bug out."
Samuel Adams' words offer sad foresight. Our founding fathers were wise from experience that is beyond the grasp most of our leaders today.
MLH,
That is because most of our founders were fresh from a revolt against the GOV "Taxation without representation"
Whom sounds like a common theme...
In Vietnam, when the M-16 would fire till dry on one trigger pull, there were two ways to say the same thing:
"When in doubt, empty the magazine!"
or
"When in doubt, spray about."
From the late, great Bill Jordan on gunfighting:(from his book "No Second Place Winner")
"TAKE YOUR TIME, FAST."
Regarding Clint's observation of the universal language of a large muzzle pointed at the head; a game warden friend said it would make non-English speaking persons remember they could understand English after all.
Having learned that, I recently acquired a Saiga 12 ga. shotgun with 3 12 round clips for home and personal defense. In Texas,you don't need a permit to carry one of those alley sweepers in the truck. That's 432 total buckshot pellets when the clip runs out. A 20 round drum magazine is also available.
The words "intelligent" and "articulate" are used together to describe an exceptional person, because both attributes do not commonly reside in the same person.
"When you throw the ball, three thing can happen - and two of them are bad."
General Robert Neyland, Univ. of Tennessee
"Nothing wrong with shooting, so long as the right people get shot."
-Clint Eastwood, as Dirty Harry in "Magnum Force"
You gents on my email list check out the sniper shot I sent you today. The goblin is holding a cocked revolver to a womans head. Watch his right eye closely as it disappears. This is what snipers train for.
Haha great quotes. I'll have to pass these on to some friends.
these are some good quotes
Rice Farm PATTON, Ladislas Farego, The Patton Papers , Martin Blumenson.
Football is NOT ARMED COMBAT 99explorer.
Sga 4 also should not be forgotten.
O'HELL!
Going into a gun fight?
The you got to have one of these babies!!!
Dillon Aero, Inc M-134 Mini Gun!
ROCK N' ROLL BABY!
http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/dillon-aero/3c8a181aa8b51fe8ef7a3...
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/gatlin-gun-gun-of-hell/dd93f1d43f...
The Dillon M134D Gatling Gun is the finest small caliber, defense suppression weapon available. It is a six barreled, electrically driven machine gun chambered in 7.62mm NATO and fires at a fixed rate of 3,000 shots per minute. Gatling Guns typically feed from a 3,000 or 4,400 round magazine. They are capable of long periods of continuous fire without threat or damage to the weapon making them an excellent choice for defensive suppression.
Lets see?
3000 rounds per minute
say even at .35 cents per round
cost to shoot, $1050 per minute , plus wear and tear on parts!
Last night, LUKE AFB Arizona. Car vs Military Police Fire Power, not a good move on the driver!
"Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't"- N/A
CJ there hasn't been a "free market" since before Cheney met with Enron to fix California natural gas rates. When we bail out banks and car manufacturers it isn't "free market". When industries and agribusiness demand subsidies it ain't free market and when the nation gets stripped of industry because a tiny percentage of magnates think they can make more money by paying third worlders to do the work, that ain't exactly free market either. We haven't had a "free market" in decades. Wake up dude.
Phil,
It is impossible, at least for me, to find your email address. I would like to send you a copy of my book. Maybe you will read it, say good things, and I will finally be able to afford to buy a gun from Freedom Arms.
This is the book. It has guns in it.
http://www.amazon.com/American-Apocalypse-Beginning-1-nova/dp/1449575285
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