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June 26, 2009
It Could Be Worse for Gun Owners
By Dave Hurteau
In 2006 12.5 million people who were at least 16 years old said they enjoyed hunting in America. They hunted a combined 220 million days that year and took 185 million trips, spending a whopping $22.9 billion.
For our amigos down south, it’s a completely different story. It’s tough to get a gun, let alone hunt. Only 7,000 to 8,000 weapons are sold legally in Mexico each year and that includes sales to private security firms.
From NPR:
According to the federal Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, there are roughly 54,000 licensed gun dealers in the U.S. In Mexico there is only one.
Mexico's lone gun shop is on a sprawling military compound in the capital that serves as the headquarters of the Mexican army. It's sort of as if the only place in the United States to buy a gun was in a back office at the Pentagon.
Soldiers stand guard at the metal detectors at the shop's entrance. Inside, handguns and rifles are displayed behind glass in long wooden cabinets.
Mexican Army Lt. Col. Raul Manzano Velez runs the shop. He explains that ordinary citizens can buy only one handgun. It must stay inside the home where it's registered and it can't be larger than a .38 special.
To buy a gun in Mexico you first have to fill out some forms. Then your employer has to fill out some forms. And all these forms have to get sent to the army, which decides whether you are eligible to have a gun.
Manzano says if there are no problems, an application can be processed in about a week. But to pick up the firearm, the buyer has to come to this shop in the capital.
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Comments (12)
My friend and avid Hunter Joss Merono lives down there. He has told me of the pains you have to go through to hunt and purchase guns in Mexico....We usually spend a day just shooting whenever he comes up stateside to hunt with me.....Hunting and firearm ownership is mostly a wealthy mans pursuit in Mexico, the average citizen is left out....
What's to say this is not what the Dem's/Obama have in mind for us in their "changes".
Beware my friends ... could this be a precursor to America?
That is why I am proud to be an American. I mean sometimes we think that we have it bad... but always remember that somewhere in this world... people have it a lot worse.
its looikn into the united states futre, except with a litte less guns and a lot more sociaisim
Reason #1 why gun control DOES NOT WORK! If you think about it, if guns are that restricted in Mexico yet every felon or wanna-be felon has a gun, it shows how ineffective gun control is, period. But will that logical and well-reasoned argument have any impact on the anti-gunners abounding in that "shining city on a hill"? Not in the least.
Mexico is a textbook example of what happens when politicians try to solve problems by punishing weapons instead of individuals.
You're average Joe-blow (Jose-blow?) who wants to go squirrel hunting can't get a .22 to save his life, meanwhile gangsters are running around hitting police with .50 cal machine guns and full auto M-16's.
Any politician who thinks "gun control" is a solution to violent crime should be forced to take a trip to Mexico.
On another note-
notice how NPR was the source for this story?
I'm thinking they are a much better news source than most conservatives give them credit for. Granted, they often take a waaay-too-PC approach that makes them appear to be bleeding heart liberals, but NPR is the only National News Source I'm aware of that blew the lid off of the whole "90% of Mexican gangster assault weapons come from the U.S." BS
(it was actually 90% of the weapons that had serial numbers in one particular raid, and a very small fraction of the seized weapons even had serial numbers)
They're far from perfect, but they're the best nation-wide major news source that I'm aware of, You need to think on you're toes and filter out the politically correct BS, but you should be looking at any news source with a critical eye.
ken.mcloud I give you a +1. That whole 'one gun store in the whole country' is really working out good for Mexico, huh?
It truly would be horrible not to have the rights to freely own firearms. I could not imagine what my life would be like. To be able to drive to the local gunshop and purchase what you desire is such a tremendous freedom. I hope that we are not becoming complacent. I have no desire to become Mexico. Gun control has never worked anyplace that it has been tried!!!
Ken mcloud is right I feel about NPR. You have to listen carefully and sift the debris out but occasionally they hit it out of the park.
Well, it´s not the best of worlds, but it could be worse.
This gun sales are relatively new here, like 15-20 years, and just recently have gone up as more people are aware of the availability of guns legally. The response time has become shorter too. Before it took about two months to know if your aplication was accepted.
The form to fill is quite easy, just state what kind of gun you want. If you want a long gun you must be on a club. And must provide proof of residence, employment and not having a record of crimes related with guns. There are some firms like Browning that have commercial representatives that can help you with the paperwork.
The prices in fact are quite reasonable, in the surroundings of the MSRP. The only thin that really sucks is that you must go to Mexico City to buy them and are subject to available existencies in the store at the moment. There is not a prepayment or other way to make your gun wait for you, so you must phone or e-mail the store to be sure they have what you want before you go.
Once you buy the gun you have 72 hours to take it home.
At the beginning of this year it was hinted in the papers by the military people responsable of this sales that they would open some other stores in different major cities to ease the service.
Paradoxically , it is much more easy to transfer the propierty of a gun to another person, or to register a gun aquired in the street. Just pay a fiscal form worth 3 dollars in the bank and go with the gun to your nearest military base. Show accepted photo ID and proof of residence, a copy of the fiscal form and your club membership if you want the gun to hunt or shooting sports. A soldier fills a form with yours and your gun´s information, you sign it and that is it. You don´t even need to prove a lack of a criminal record.
For more info on this subject and just about anything on guns and hunting, plese visit www.mexicoarmado.com
careful boys and girls this is our future if we are not protective and proactive in the fight for our rights. by the way why do we have to fight for our rights?
Said it before and I'll say it again. The thing that keeps the leftist from giving this system to us is the NRA. Everyone should be a member. Already a member, then upgrade to life member etc.
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That is why I am proud to be an American. I mean sometimes we think that we have it bad... but always remember that somewhere in this world... people have it a lot worse.
Mexico is a textbook example of what happens when politicians try to solve problems by punishing weapons instead of individuals.
You're average Joe-blow (Jose-blow?) who wants to go squirrel hunting can't get a .22 to save his life, meanwhile gangsters are running around hitting police with .50 cal machine guns and full auto M-16's.
Any politician who thinks "gun control" is a solution to violent crime should be forced to take a trip to Mexico.
On another note-
notice how NPR was the source for this story?
I'm thinking they are a much better news source than most conservatives give them credit for. Granted, they often take a waaay-too-PC approach that makes them appear to be bleeding heart liberals, but NPR is the only National News Source I'm aware of that blew the lid off of the whole "90% of Mexican gangster assault weapons come from the U.S." BS
(it was actually 90% of the weapons that had serial numbers in one particular raid, and a very small fraction of the seized weapons even had serial numbers)
They're far from perfect, but they're the best nation-wide major news source that I'm aware of, You need to think on you're toes and filter out the politically correct BS, but you should be looking at any news source with a critical eye.
It truly would be horrible not to have the rights to freely own firearms. I could not imagine what my life would be like. To be able to drive to the local gunshop and purchase what you desire is such a tremendous freedom. I hope that we are not becoming complacent. I have no desire to become Mexico. Gun control has never worked anyplace that it has been tried!!!
Ken mcloud is right I feel about NPR. You have to listen carefully and sift the debris out but occasionally they hit it out of the park.
Said it before and I'll say it again. The thing that keeps the leftist from giving this system to us is the NRA. Everyone should be a member. Already a member, then upgrade to life member etc.
My friend and avid Hunter Joss Merono lives down there. He has told me of the pains you have to go through to hunt and purchase guns in Mexico....We usually spend a day just shooting whenever he comes up stateside to hunt with me.....Hunting and firearm ownership is mostly a wealthy mans pursuit in Mexico, the average citizen is left out....
What's to say this is not what the Dem's/Obama have in mind for us in their "changes".
Beware my friends ... could this be a precursor to America?
its looikn into the united states futre, except with a litte less guns and a lot more sociaisim
Reason #1 why gun control DOES NOT WORK! If you think about it, if guns are that restricted in Mexico yet every felon or wanna-be felon has a gun, it shows how ineffective gun control is, period. But will that logical and well-reasoned argument have any impact on the anti-gunners abounding in that "shining city on a hill"? Not in the least.
ken.mcloud I give you a +1. That whole 'one gun store in the whole country' is really working out good for Mexico, huh?
Well, it´s not the best of worlds, but it could be worse.
This gun sales are relatively new here, like 15-20 years, and just recently have gone up as more people are aware of the availability of guns legally. The response time has become shorter too. Before it took about two months to know if your aplication was accepted.
The form to fill is quite easy, just state what kind of gun you want. If you want a long gun you must be on a club. And must provide proof of residence, employment and not having a record of crimes related with guns. There are some firms like Browning that have commercial representatives that can help you with the paperwork.
The prices in fact are quite reasonable, in the surroundings of the MSRP. The only thin that really sucks is that you must go to Mexico City to buy them and are subject to available existencies in the store at the moment. There is not a prepayment or other way to make your gun wait for you, so you must phone or e-mail the store to be sure they have what you want before you go.
Once you buy the gun you have 72 hours to take it home.
At the beginning of this year it was hinted in the papers by the military people responsable of this sales that they would open some other stores in different major cities to ease the service.
Paradoxically , it is much more easy to transfer the propierty of a gun to another person, or to register a gun aquired in the street. Just pay a fiscal form worth 3 dollars in the bank and go with the gun to your nearest military base. Show accepted photo ID and proof of residence, a copy of the fiscal form and your club membership if you want the gun to hunt or shooting sports. A soldier fills a form with yours and your gun´s information, you sign it and that is it. You don´t even need to prove a lack of a criminal record.
For more info on this subject and just about anything on guns and hunting, plese visit www.mexicoarmado.com
careful boys and girls this is our future if we are not protective and proactive in the fight for our rights. by the way why do we have to fight for our rights?
Post a Comment