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August 24, 2009

Discussion Topic: On Hunting Dogs and The HSUS

When is it too hot or too cold to leave your hunting dog outdoors? Who should make that call, you or the local government? Well in Kanawha County, West Virginia, it is now the latter, guided some say by the Humane Society of the United States.

From the West Virginia Metro News:

Gary Knapp, president of the West Virginia Bear Hunters Association appeared before the Kanawha County Commission last week to raise his concerns about the stiff stipulations of [a new] ordinance, aimed at preventing mistreatment of dogs. . . .

Knapp says the ordinance. . . requires dog owners to bring their animals in the house when temperatures outside go above 85 degrees or below 40 degrees. . . . Knapp say it also renders the dog ineffective on a hunt if he or she isn't in proper condition. . . . [“]These animals need to be conditioned to the environment they're going to hunt in. . . ."

Nobody seems sure of just where the writers of the ordinance came up with the arbitrary figures of 40-degrees and 85-degrees. Knapp says he was told by the attorney for the Humane Society it was a recommendation of their organization. The Humane Society of the United States has long been opposed to any and all hunting.  Knapp says there was a not-so-veiled indication that may be what's at play here.

Be sure to check out the full article and tell us your reaction.

 

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from 007 wrote 48 weeks 4 days ago

I am not in the least bit surprised. These same morons that think an 80# hound should be inside probably leave their kids in hot cars. Animal rights run amok yet again.

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from ggmack wrote 48 weeks 4 days ago

yet another thinnly veiled attempt to limit hunting.

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from ckRich wrote 48 weeks 4 days ago

Next thing you know they'll be wanting to install cooling/warming stations for wild populations of wolves and coyotes.

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from Outsider wrote 48 weeks 4 days ago

Yet again, my wonderful homestate of West Virginia finds another way to embarass the hard working people of this state. Its okay for our folks working construction and other outside jobs to freeze in the winter, and fry in the summer, but god forbid, an animal which is better equipted to deal with extremes than humans, have to be cold in the winter, or hot in the summer. Thanks Kanawha County, Not only do you harbor Charleston..one of the most unhealthy cities in the entire country, you once again make West Virginia the whipping boy of the country...and worst of all, give anti's and such, fuel for their fires.

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from Mike Diehl wrote 48 weeks 4 days ago

It's not about limiting hunting. It's about limiting ownership of animals. Below 40 must be inside... what an idiotic rule. How do they imagine all the NON pet animals handle temps below 40? They all just kick the bucket and get replaced the next day by the animal fairy?

HSUS. PETA. What a bunch of fruitcake addicted brain befuddled cultish morons.

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from buckhunter wrote 48 weeks 4 days ago

Hello,

My name is Tucker and I am the Yellow Lab owned by Buckhunter. I learned how to type by watching him on F&S.com for many hours.

My family has a long and proud tradition of being tough dogs bred for cold weather. My forefathers were bred to brave the cold Icelandic waters to retreive fishing bouys for boats. Later my ancestors were used for retreiveing ducks for hunters on cold winter days. Lately we have been most proud to assist the handicapped so they can live a more normal life.

We do all this with joy because we love man as much as man loves us.

Despite our proud tradition there are still many of us that live painful lives. Some of us are locked up in houses all day long unable to run or be free. Some of us live in city where our paws never to get to feel soft grass.

Despite this there is a movement a foot to keep us inside even more where we grow fat and weary unable to acclimate ourselves to the weather which makes us very susceptable to disease.

I beg to all those that read these words. "Let me out!" The HSUS is not our friend.

My buddies and I have a saying when we meet at the kennel. "Bury the bone in the HSUS". He He. Dog humor is the best.

Regards,

Tucker

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from jjas wrote 48 weeks 4 days ago

I wonder when it will be required for the cows and horses to be put into a heated and/or air conditioned barn when it's below 40 or above 85?

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from muskiemaster wrote 48 weeks 4 days ago

although I understand when it's too hot or cold you should probably bring the dog in but that's your call and isn't up to somebody else.

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from gman3186 wrote 48 weeks 3 days ago

i can see when it is to hot but when its cold the dog will be working the woods and stay warm

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from shane wrote 48 weeks 3 days ago

Great. Here go the morons again, thinking they speak for the animals. Really, we know 100 times more than they do about our dogs.

Some dogs aren't at their happiest until it's well below 40. My girlfriend's black lab/newfie's favorite weather is about 25 degrees. She seems very comfortable in much colder weather, too.

I'll cite some TV show expedition involving arctic research. The humans were wearing the most advanced extreme cold weather gear, while their black lab companions were wearing nothing but collars. They were prancing around like it was 65 degrees.

Stick it, HSUS. Y'all have no idea what you're talking about.

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from MLH wrote 48 weeks 3 days ago

My Newfy was at his happiest and most energetic when the weather was below zero. He never even used his doghouse until he was 6 years old, and then only when it was cold and raining. I would bring him in the house and he demanded to go right back out.

I went to the STATE Human Society because they had a few Newfy pups. They wouldn't let me take one because I refused to sign the agreement that the dog would have to be kept indoors. Many Newfs, like mine, start off as indoor dogs and decide on their own that they prefer the outdoors. They know little about the dogs they care for and base their judgments on human conditions. And the HSUS just wants to end pet ownership, period.

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from seadog wrote 48 weeks 3 days ago

They have to be inside above 85. Imagine that here in Florida--in the summer, my dog would have to wait til September to go outside to pee.

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from wvboy1022 wrote 48 weeks 3 days ago

I am worried they will try to pass a similar law here in Mason county. Many friends of mine have coon hounds that aint been in a house since they were just puppies, which is the way it should be. I mean, you can not keep a sprinter from running for a few months and expect him to win a race.

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from earlyriser81 wrote 42 weeks 5 days ago

I swear! What are these people thinking?! Just another attack on the sportsman and woman. So what did dogs do before heating and air conditioning? Why don't they put all their wasted energy into something like a cure for the common cold, or a longer lasting light bulb!

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from steve182 wrote 42 weeks 5 days ago

air conditioning and heat required for animals? what a joke.

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from FloridaHunter1226 wrote 40 weeks 9 hours ago

I am not sure about anyone else but I think I should be able to make that call. I am certainly not going to put my dog in weather that I think would hurt it... that standard of 40-85 degrees is a little ridiculous. I mean it reaches 90 and above for a good 2/3 of the year here in Florida and you see people out with their dogs all the time. You just gotta make sure to hydrate your dog and such. Basically, don'y be stupid about it and dont over-run your dog.

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from buckhunter wrote 48 weeks 4 days ago

Hello,

My name is Tucker and I am the Yellow Lab owned by Buckhunter. I learned how to type by watching him on F&S.com for many hours.

My family has a long and proud tradition of being tough dogs bred for cold weather. My forefathers were bred to brave the cold Icelandic waters to retreive fishing bouys for boats. Later my ancestors were used for retreiveing ducks for hunters on cold winter days. Lately we have been most proud to assist the handicapped so they can live a more normal life.

We do all this with joy because we love man as much as man loves us.

Despite our proud tradition there are still many of us that live painful lives. Some of us are locked up in houses all day long unable to run or be free. Some of us live in city where our paws never to get to feel soft grass.

Despite this there is a movement a foot to keep us inside even more where we grow fat and weary unable to acclimate ourselves to the weather which makes us very susceptable to disease.

I beg to all those that read these words. "Let me out!" The HSUS is not our friend.

My buddies and I have a saying when we meet at the kennel. "Bury the bone in the HSUS". He He. Dog humor is the best.

Regards,

Tucker

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from Mike Diehl wrote 48 weeks 4 days ago

It's not about limiting hunting. It's about limiting ownership of animals. Below 40 must be inside... what an idiotic rule. How do they imagine all the NON pet animals handle temps below 40? They all just kick the bucket and get replaced the next day by the animal fairy?

HSUS. PETA. What a bunch of fruitcake addicted brain befuddled cultish morons.

+5 Good Comment? | | Report
from jjas wrote 48 weeks 4 days ago

I wonder when it will be required for the cows and horses to be put into a heated and/or air conditioned barn when it's below 40 or above 85?

+3 Good Comment? | | Report
from shane wrote 48 weeks 3 days ago

Great. Here go the morons again, thinking they speak for the animals. Really, we know 100 times more than they do about our dogs.

Some dogs aren't at their happiest until it's well below 40. My girlfriend's black lab/newfie's favorite weather is about 25 degrees. She seems very comfortable in much colder weather, too.

I'll cite some TV show expedition involving arctic research. The humans were wearing the most advanced extreme cold weather gear, while their black lab companions were wearing nothing but collars. They were prancing around like it was 65 degrees.

Stick it, HSUS. Y'all have no idea what you're talking about.

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from ckRich wrote 48 weeks 4 days ago

Next thing you know they'll be wanting to install cooling/warming stations for wild populations of wolves and coyotes.

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from Outsider wrote 48 weeks 4 days ago

Yet again, my wonderful homestate of West Virginia finds another way to embarass the hard working people of this state. Its okay for our folks working construction and other outside jobs to freeze in the winter, and fry in the summer, but god forbid, an animal which is better equipted to deal with extremes than humans, have to be cold in the winter, or hot in the summer. Thanks Kanawha County, Not only do you harbor Charleston..one of the most unhealthy cities in the entire country, you once again make West Virginia the whipping boy of the country...and worst of all, give anti's and such, fuel for their fires.

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from MLH wrote 48 weeks 3 days ago

My Newfy was at his happiest and most energetic when the weather was below zero. He never even used his doghouse until he was 6 years old, and then only when it was cold and raining. I would bring him in the house and he demanded to go right back out.

I went to the STATE Human Society because they had a few Newfy pups. They wouldn't let me take one because I refused to sign the agreement that the dog would have to be kept indoors. Many Newfs, like mine, start off as indoor dogs and decide on their own that they prefer the outdoors. They know little about the dogs they care for and base their judgments on human conditions. And the HSUS just wants to end pet ownership, period.

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from seadog wrote 48 weeks 3 days ago

They have to be inside above 85. Imagine that here in Florida--in the summer, my dog would have to wait til September to go outside to pee.

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from wvboy1022 wrote 48 weeks 3 days ago

I am worried they will try to pass a similar law here in Mason county. Many friends of mine have coon hounds that aint been in a house since they were just puppies, which is the way it should be. I mean, you can not keep a sprinter from running for a few months and expect him to win a race.

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from 007 wrote 48 weeks 4 days ago

I am not in the least bit surprised. These same morons that think an 80# hound should be inside probably leave their kids in hot cars. Animal rights run amok yet again.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from ggmack wrote 48 weeks 4 days ago

yet another thinnly veiled attempt to limit hunting.

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from muskiemaster wrote 48 weeks 4 days ago

although I understand when it's too hot or cold you should probably bring the dog in but that's your call and isn't up to somebody else.

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from gman3186 wrote 48 weeks 3 days ago

i can see when it is to hot but when its cold the dog will be working the woods and stay warm

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from earlyriser81 wrote 42 weeks 5 days ago

I swear! What are these people thinking?! Just another attack on the sportsman and woman. So what did dogs do before heating and air conditioning? Why don't they put all their wasted energy into something like a cure for the common cold, or a longer lasting light bulb!

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from steve182 wrote 42 weeks 5 days ago

air conditioning and heat required for animals? what a joke.

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from FloridaHunter1226 wrote 40 weeks 9 hours ago

I am not sure about anyone else but I think I should be able to make that call. I am certainly not going to put my dog in weather that I think would hurt it... that standard of 40-85 degrees is a little ridiculous. I mean it reaches 90 and above for a good 2/3 of the year here in Florida and you see people out with their dogs all the time. You just gotta make sure to hydrate your dog and such. Basically, don'y be stupid about it and dont over-run your dog.

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