


September 23, 2009
Bourjaily: A Remington 870 Can Last Forever
The October 2009 Popular Mechanics “Self Reliance Issue” is all about fending for yourself: surviving emergencies, living off the grid, as well as just being generally handy. One feature, “The Soul of an Old Machine” profiles do-it-yourselfers who prefer to fix and maintain old stuff rather than replace it. It includes a sidebar called “Tomorrow’s Classics,” listing four tools which, if given a modicum of care, will work for you and for your children. They are:
Channellock 421 Pliers
Stanley Powerlock Tape Measure
Troy-Bilt Garden Tiller
Remington 870 Shotgun
The 870 copy reads:
“Harry S. Truman was president when the 870 was born. Since then, millions of the no-fuss pump guns have been purchased to hunt everything from doves to deer. A little light oil on the breech bolt and a good scrubbing with No. 9 solvent are all it takes to make this smooth slider last for generations.”
First of all, kudos to Popular Mechanics for giving the 870 its due as a tool for the ages. Second, I am sure this list could be much, much longer.
So, the floor is open for nominations for classic tools that are indispensible, easy to maintain, and will last forever. Although guns and outdoor gear are obviously more than welcome on this list, any tool of any kind is eligible. My wife’s KitchenAid stand mixer would make the cut, for instance: it’s 22 pounds of steel, made in the USA since 1919, iconic, unbreakable and virtually maintenance-free. There’s one. What else?
Comments (110)
how about a 94 isuzu trooper my dad t bones someone with hit totaled it and drove it 50 miles home
Kudos to Popular Mechanics for giving props to the 870. This is something sportsmen have known for a long time & it's part of the reason I have two of them.
I've had my father's Mossberg 500AT for 27 years. It was worn some when I got it, and I have no idea when it was made.
I have my Ka-bar knife issued me in 1974.
I have some underwear that... uh... better not metion that here.
If my 870 had a brain, it would wonder what the hell it did wrong. It never failed me once, it's killed literally thousands of birds, and yet I take my Benelli 95% of the time when I go out for birds now. I'm a traitor to that gun.
Anywho, I'll throw out the old fashioned handi-man jack. The only thing that fails on those things is the spring that works the switch lever to go up or down and that's not hard to replace. I know there's so many others I consider in this category but I'm drawing blanks.
Oh! Second on the Ka-bar. Mine is nowhere near 35 years old but it has been through 3 trips to Iraq and then some.
One for the ages?
I'd throw in the Stanley classic vacuum thermos.
I might consider a 870 if my old Winchester Model 12s ever wear out.
RCBS and MEC reloading presses come to mind. Also, Gransfors Bruks axes and Buck 110 folders. I see a few old Jeep J body pickups still hauling firewood.
My 870 of course, and my wifes mouth. No matter how mich it's used, it never seems to wear out at all.
I have a 96 isuzu Trooper. Greatest car ever. Had a 1989 Trooper before that. Never had a single mechanical issue with either of them.
Im a firm believer in my Browning A5 Light 12. It was my grandfathers as of 1953 and yes it kicks like a mule, but I don't for see it ever malfunctioning.
We have a EUREKA(canister) vacuum Circa 1984; still going strong..
Leatherman multi tools, Good old Buck knives, and about any firearm made by Ruger.....
I read somewhere that the basic patent for the Coleman Lantern is one of the oldest unchanged patented inventions still available in it's original form. I believe it first came out in the mid to late 1800's.
I read somewhere that the basic patent for the Coleman Lantern is one of the oldest unchanged patented inventions still available in it's original form. I believe it first came out in the mid to late 1800's.
Sorry for the double post. I'm old and have a stutter in my trigger finger.
no arguments on the 870 my dad has one thats twenty something almost thirty i think years old and its works as good as the ones being sold in the stores
Leatherman PST and Supertool, I have never had one wear out, the service to get your tool fixed is superb, and they can help with every task. I would also like to add the S&W revolvers, they never seem to go bad.
Yes, kudos to PM for daring to anger the PC gods by mentioning a firearm. Our local rags of newpapers print these hurricane survival guides every time the season rolls around. They mention the typical nonsense like flashlights, bottled water, etc but I've never seen a firearm mentioned in ANY of them. You would have to be blind, deaf, and dumb to have watched the aftermath of Katrina and not put one on the top of your list. Worthless journalist vermin.
Good'uns:
Leatherman
Ka-Bar Marine knife
1911
S&W .38
AK of most varieties
Ames Army shovel
Things of mine that shouldn't be but are:
a '96 Ford Explorer with 300k+ miles
my late 60's Massey Ferguson 135 tractor with ????hrs
a Pfleuger electric trolling motor that is ????? yrs old
I have my grandfathers Mitchell Garcia 300. He past in 1976. Darn thing is as good as new. It's a spinning reel for you non fishing folks.
Mitchell fishing reels! good one! I only have had experience with ones in the 400 series. I believe it was a 440 my grandpa always had me using. Most likely circa '70's
I have a Gerber multi-tool that is 22yrs+,a Craftman's ratchet set from '77, a Estwing hammer I found in '81,and my great grandfathers block plane from Germany.Most of my firearms are less than 20yrs old(I am guilty of trading/selling) so I guess they don't qualify yet.
We wouldn't want to forget that Winchester M 94 as a "forever" gun either. I still prefer my Model 12 in the field to the 870, I even like the M-1300 Winchester pump better actually, which puts me in the minority I s'pose but what the hell, good thing we don't all covet the same exact pieces, how boring that'd be for the writers.
Someone mentioned the old Craftsman tools, still use a set my Dad had; just keeps on working hard.
Do NOT miss the old lawn mower engines of the early 60's...remember the ones that had a crank on the top you 'd wind up, then hit the button to spin it over? If the handle on the crank didn't slip back and whack ya, the excitement of all that winding and wind just to get a brief "whire-whire-whire" and no start! Glad that system didn't last!
A quality saddle plus good tack if properly maintained and stored. A Case or Boker pocket knife or a Hamilton Railway Special pocket watch seem to last forever even with everyday useage. Judging from the number I see locally apparently you never wear out a seventies vintage Ford F-250 pickup with manual locking hubs and a four speed. You guys beat me to everything else I can imagine at this moment except for the Silva compass that I have from when I was a kid in the Boy Scouts.
Frankly, I've never met a tool I couldn't break...
Here's another vote for Buck knives. Gave one to Dad for Christmas 35 years ago and, unfortunately, got it back 2 years ago. He carried it every day and it looks like it's ready for another 35 years.
How about the gun produced in the highest number ever, AK-47.
Most of nominees have been mentioned already. However, I'm gonna put in a vote for a mini-maglite. I've carried one in my pack since my first hunt, which was 8 years ago.
My nominations include the following:
1. Howard Hill Tembo longbow
2. Kelly Perfect double-bit axe
3. Svea or Optimus camp stoves
4. Filson anything
5. 1969 Toyota Landcruiser (mine is not for sale)
it might be a long shot but how about those new remington 887s? they look pretty darn durable.
my dad gave me his wingmaster, i'll give it to my son/daughter, and so on. i really believe it'll last that long. i just hope they dont change the 12ga ammo anytime in the next 1-200 years...
My grandmas old cast metal handcranked meatgrinder.. its like 50-60 years old and has had enough meat through it to feed a stadion for a week and it grinds the meat slowly and coarsely in a way no modern meatgrinder ive ever tested can replicate.. just pieces it up withouth punishing the meat, locking the taste in.. And its never had any parts replaced etc. dont know the make, but its virtually unbreakable and might last many generations still :D
Ditto on the Buck 110. Still have and use the one I bought to carry when I was a 2LT and in over 30 years of use and abuse it has never failed me.
John Deere model 60, circa late 1950's I think. Nothing runs like a 60 year old Deere.
i have a anvil that is over 100 years old and it still works fine. not a minutes trouble.
I have my dads 870, manufactured in September 1951, fires well, loud as hell..
Cutco cutlery, which make kitchen cutlery and Hunting knives are the best out there, they also manufacture K-BAR...
I also have a 1997 Crown Victoria Police Interceptor, dang good car, good mileage, power, a good addition to my other 2 Fords and wifes HD Sportster..
My 55 chevy belair with a 327 in it. oops not original eng.
Gruman conoe,
Remington 870
Ford 6 cylinder trucks
Ford model A
Buck knives
Ruger revolvers
Woodsman Pal machete
Snap On rachetes
Leatherman Wave/Supertool
Aladdin Thermos until they stopped making them in the United States
List of things you only have to buy once...
870 20GA..sorry..it turned 58 years old...last month..
Vice Grip Pliars, Crecent Wrenches, Fencing tool and a spool of baleing Wire. The ultimate farmers repair kit.
Oh yeah, I forgot my Winchester 52
Buck 119
---An economical, durable knife that has stood the test of time.
Popular Mechanics has been friendly to weapons esp. firearms as far as I recall. They even featured the 1911, the Glock 17 and Daisy Red Ryder carbine, in different issues, of course. They've featured the weapons of the Special Forces. They especially love warplanes, both new and old, especially the latter, which have a market with very rich civilians.
PM, at least in issues I've read, has no problems featuring weapons systems (warplanes, warships, military vehicles), or even the big-engined trucks, cars and motorcycles that the PC crowd hate. They have Jay Leno as a columnist. Leno is like the anti-Prius.
Speaking of reliable stuff, obviously the hammers and screwdrivers have an advantage because they have no moving parts. Folding knives, pliers, etc. push the envelope a bit. "Machines" with lots of moving/stressed parts are even more remarkable.
-Buck knives
-Leatherman PST II (still my favorite, even without locking blades)
-Coleman lanterns
-Nikon F, F2 and F3 SLR cameras (if you drop it on your bare foot, your foot will need repairs)
-old Singer sewing machines (I've seen a hand-cranked model once that was still in use)
-the Honda "Cub" motorcycle, the original version, not the new "Wave". If anyone still wonders why Honda has such a sterling reputation, just look at the Cub, pound for pound, there is no tougher motorcycle. Actually, there's not even a need to say pound for pound.
Red Rider BB gun
Third vote for the Buck 110. Affordable and foolproof. If they just made it in a better steel (which they did for a while, in the "Alaskan guide" series), it would be the only knife I'd ever need.
I would have to say that our John Deer 4020 is about as industructable as anything. Fourty some years old. Vice grip pliers, and of course the good old 870.
Ford 8N tractors.
Give a Mossberg 500 any day any where. But 870 is not a bad backup.
I will add the Remington Model 1100 automatic shotgun. I have one purchased in 1984 that has never, ever jammed and that has always been a pleasure to shoot. It is a Tournament Skeet model, and I upgraded the barrel to one that will accept screw-in chokes. These shotguns retain their good looks, and their honest steel and walnut components don't leave me cold like "plastic" shotguns do!
3 liter v6 ford motors
ruger firearms
mariner 9.9
john deere
Lee Enfield rifles.After serving many Allied troops through Europe decades ago, their still thousands of them being used today.
I agree with vice grips. I've had mine for some 30 years.
I've got a 8N Ford tractor Thats not pretty, but starts eright up. It was made in 1952, and has a 1949 rebuilt mmotor.
2 stroke lawnboy mowers (if you add oil to the gas)
1940-1980 OMC 2 cylinder outboards
rcbs rockchucker press
wilton vises
lincoln all copper welders
u.s.army compass
eagle oil cans
buck and gerber knifes
swingline wall mount pencil sharpeners
cast iron bullet molds
old craftsman cast iron table saws
bmw boxer twin motorcycles
flatfish (fishing lure)
mitchell 300 reels
maglite flashlights
starrett precision tools
schwinn bicycles
Farmall letter series tractors. They haven't been built in over 50 years and i still see them every day.
Chevrolet V-8s, S&W revolvers, my USMC K-bar, the Case 470 tractor that I wish I had never sold, my Rem. 870 and 700lh, and my Marlin 336.
Amen on the Woodsman pal! Another to add is the orginal Marbels saftey axe.
I have to vote for my GE Elec-Trak 15hp 36volt DC electric tractor (circa 1971). Out pulls any garden tractor up to 18hp, instant torque, always ready to go and charges off house current for pennies. To this I'd add my Savage24 combo gun, my dear old Jeep Wrangler, The Lehman's 4 ton cast iron framed come-along plus any hammer, axe or knife manufactured by Estwing. (oh and the Leatherman Wave too...).
This blog sort of points out the things we have in common...a healthy respect for things that are dependable, and that last. My list is shorter than I wish it were:
Granddad's Model '97 Winchester pump 12
Dad's old custom Mauser, which began life before WWI
Any Winchester Model 62 .22 pump
Any 1911 Colt, and just about any S&W Model 10 .38 spec.
My old Lee Loader handset, which got me into reloading
Ancient Lyman scales
Mannlicher rifle, 6.5mm
Browning Superposed
Colt Python
and most of all [I'll be hated for this]...a good woman, far better than I deserve.
Blue
Toyota Tacomas, they don't break period. It's the truck of choice in upstate SC for getting you to hell and back. Mine's got 155,000 miles and hasn't hicupped yet, i'm trying to put 300,000 on it minimum. Also Coleman lanterns and the Zebco 33 my dad gave me for my first fishing reel. He had it in the 70's and it functions flawlessly to this day. I've had numerous high dollar bait casters cease to work but I plan on giving the Zebco to my kids.
How about a little 40 year old Crossman 760 pump bb gun that has taken out more critters than one could count.
Well, some of those mentioned are hard to beat. 1998 Silverado with 282,000 miles. Original motor, original transmission and gearboxes. 870 with about as many rounds fired as miles on the pickup.
Let me know in about 30 years how those Benelli's worked out for you...
Snap-On hand tool, any: they don't wear out, period. A 20 year old Snap-On screwdriver blade is as sharp as a new one.
Craftsman hand tool, any; yeah, they break and wear out. But then you take the broken parts to Sears, even if they are 40 years old, and the guy hands you a new one on the spot. I'm not cheating; the Craftsman guarantee is the thing that lasts forever.
My Savage 99RS in .303 Savage and Marlin 336 in .35 Remington. Both guns are over 40 years old and will give to my grandchildren. My wife is also old and beautiful - still runs like a Rolex. I'm keeping her for myself.
When I got too old for my 20 gauge 870, I got a Mossberg 835. Not that I don't like my 835 but I feel bad that my 870 no longer goes hunting with me. I love that gun and after I get myself a rifle and a crossbow, I may buy a 12 gauge 870.
(1) A U.S. made Kabar Marine Corps knife. (some of the new ones today are made in Taiwan!)(2) A Winchester 21 sxs shotgun can be abused, but can never be worn out shooting it.
I used to duck and goose hunt with two fanatical waterfowlers (not gun nuts) who shot Rem. 870 express 12 ga. 3"magnums. I never saw them clean those guns. When they became rusty from rain (leaving them outside of the cabin overnight) the guns were covered with camo duct tape. Not once did I ever witness a failure to fire or eject from those two abused pump guns. After winning a high dollar one of a kind custom pistol at a DU benefit, these two heroes promptly traded the pistol for two new Remington 870 express 12's.
duck tape and a browning A-5 but not together
Taking nothing away from the 870, a great gun, but I'll shoot my Winchester Model 12 'til the day I die. 20 gauge, light and dependable, clean it and count on it.
Made in the 1920's, and still works as good as new.
If I miss on the first or second shot, I sometimes send a third shot just as a wave-goodbye.
Have a couple of Model 12 16 gauges as well,(1930's-1950's vintage) love to carry them, 12 gauges are getting a little heavy in my older years.
I can't see far enough anymore to need magnums, so I only shoot the roosters that the 20 or 16 will reach.
"Old Timer" knives have cleaned all my birds, inherited from Dad.
The good old stuff is the best.
1911 in .45 ACP
Beechcraft Bonanza
Farmall H and M
My 1948 Jeep CJ2A (although my '97 TJ is faster and rides better)
Browning A5
.30-30
.30-06
I find it interesting when people list American made cars or trucks as being reliable and lasting forever. I surely have not found that to be the case. I don't think any vehicle will last forever, but the Japanese brands will surely outlast and outperform any American brand by a considerable margin. If American vehicles were so good we wouldn't have had 2 out of the 3 major manufacturers on the verge of bankruptcy. A Toyota will beat a Ford, Chevy or Chrysler any day of the week.
I second the Stanley thermos. One that I think has not been specifically mentioned here is the Ruger 10/22 rifle. Also, a Marlin Golden 39A that was given to me by my mother. She got it in 81 when my uncle traded it to her for her old 73 Monte Carlo. I LOVE that gun. I also like the Old Timer knives, but I have found that the older ones (60s, 70s) are far superior to the newer ones (90s - 2000s).
Speaking of the 870, they are spectacularly blue collar and reliable. My only beef: Safety on the trigger guard instead of up where I can work it with my thumb as I come up on a rising covey of quail. I could never get used to finding it with my finger.
I have a 100 year old Winchester model 94 30/30 carbine that I still use to take deer with every fall. It was my Grandfather's 12th birthday present back in 1911. He used it up to the day he past away.
Tom the Troll.
My nominates would be:
-Craftsman tools
-Masey Ferguson tractors
-Lodge cast iron cookware
-Buck Knives
-Böker Knives
-The Osterizer blender, when most are use and discard, this little monster can work more than 10 years between minor fixes.
-A mule powered sugarcane mill, pot and clay molds, all made in Monterrey, Mexico more than 100 years ago, and still making piloncillos.
Hey Matt28,
You're absolutly right about the hurricane survival guides. After food & water, an 870 & my Glock are at the top of my list.
I will second the nomination for Lodge Cast Iron cookware.
That is all I use at home to cook with. I have not killed it yet. My wife is on her second or third set of aluminum and Teflon coated pans.
Tom the troll
My 16Ga 870 Made in 1961
My 1100 Made in 1981
My Stevens 311 Made in 1963
My Walther PP made in 1951
Buck 110 Bought in 1965
Victorinox Champ Knife made in 1969
A 1952 Lincoln Cosmopolitan I bought in 1961, Sold in 1980, Still going strong and the guy won't sell it back to me! :( Much more .
My 870 was not as good as it should of been. I bought one of the 870's with the bad barrel. Remember those? Any way it never burst but it hated to eject high brass shells after 100 rounds went through it. No problems with low brass shells though. Don't have it any more, but I will never part with my 1100.
Sorry guys, you're too newfangled for me.
My Model 12 12 gauge is the newest gun I have, made in 1953. (Winchester has a webpage where you can enter the serial number and it will tell you the year).
My 16 gauge is from 1922, and 20 gauge is from 1928. And they work just fine.
Oldest gun I have is from 1870's from Birmingham, England and I believe is a prototype that never caught on, firing pins attached on a swivel to the hammers, and I believe it's an 11 gauge, from all indications. Would still fire a low load 10 gauge shell through it if I wanted. Very nice old gun.
Despite the tons of poorly made junk that we buy during our lifetimes, the number of items that are truly lifetime investments of the highest quality are almost endless and the list would fill pages. I particularly like the choice of the Browning Auto-5. I've shot the devil out of mine since 1957 and you cannot make it quit. I disagree that it "kicks like a mule", though. I never even feel it, and I am 76.I regret that it's no longer made. The fact is that if you take care of almost any quality firearm, they will all last a couple of lifetimes or more.
Tom
Tom,
I agree with you about the quality of the Browning A-5, and wish you well for your remaining years in the field. I just buried my father-in-law at the age of 93, and he enjoyed his farm land and wildlife until the end.
One of my fondest memories is hunting with a gentleman gunsmith who was then in his 80's, he would use a double barrel black powder 12 gauge, walking through a weed patch with a pipe in his mouth, and when a pheasant got up he had to take two steps to the right to see around the smoke to see if it came down. I still have one gun he fixed for me, and will never part from it.
I would have to add these to the list
Ridgid pipe wrenches
S&W modle 28
Mertron Fire pumps when serviced
Puma Fixed blade knife
Kabar USMC knife
Chevy 350 motor
H&R 10 ga. shotgun
I agree on the 870. Just bought my 7 year old a youth model and he will enherit my 12 when I die but until then he is not gettig it. Will add craftman tools, remington 700 and Savage 110. The 110 is ugly as crap but it last forever. I have all kinds of guns custom and not and I shoot my 870 and 700 almost exclusivly. Son shoots my 25 year old .243 110. Use to carry a beretta 391 and a 870 for back up in the duck blind. Now I only carry an 870 cause I threw the 391 in a LA marsh and never looked back.
BUCKHUNTER, Those reels are like a timex watch.Ive had a couple passed down to me.theres a lot of great imformation above, so Ill just ad my ol'zippo lighter.
Hey, Ricardo RodrĂguez--
I second the Boker knives. Also, the yellow handled Case knives with the castrating blade...like carrying a scalpel around.
As to the age of the guns, since they are now being dated...my Dad's Mauser is 1917, his Dad's Winchester '97 is turn of the twentieth century...my Mannlichers are 1903...Winchester 62 pump .22 is 1941...National Match 1911 is about 1969...our Farmall Tractor is about 1953 vintage.
I was WWII issue.
Blue
schrade old timer
winchester Model 12
Chevy 350 motor as well, had a Chevy Sport Van 20, had at least 800,000 miles on it when the tranny went. Only major work on that engine was a cam and lifters a few years after a 50 mile drive with no oil in it. (long story)
Also nominate the Buck Lite Folder, the perfect hunting knife, bought in 1985 I believe, still tight and able to shave with it.
SD whitetail hunter, I'll send you my mailing address and I'll take that unloved 870 of your hands and give it some loving!
The 12 gauge and .30/30 and .30-06 cartridges.
Woods three and five star sleeping bags
Coleman lanterns and stoves
Mag lights
Gerber knives
Rapala original floating minnow
My Daiwa 1000C ultralight spinning reel is 34 years old and has caught literally thousands of fish, from yellow perch, bluegill, and crappie, to largemouth bass and channel cats. The only part replaced was the handle, about five years ago, which cost me $15 (I paid $20 for the reel when I bought it new!). A fine reel.
jbtool, I agree w/ you on the Ridgid pipe wrenches. Gotta' love the 870, and my wife's Kitchenaid has ground up more deer than I care to tally up. My Leatherman, which I found in a field while deer hunting, has served me well for 15 years.
Woulda loved to have my Grandpa's KBAR, but my deginerate relatives ransacked his house before his corpse was even cool, that's OK, he gave me his pre-64 Model 70 .270 years before he died, and that's one helluva tool in my book.
SL, Toyota recalled more vehicles last year than they sold. All of the Japanese car companies are subsidized by their government, and have been for years. None of thier American plants have been open long enough to even have retirees, so they operate with none of that cost concern. Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Isuzu, Hyundai all donated SQUAT to victim's charities after 9/11, Ford, GM, and Chrysler donated over 50 MILLION dollars, and hundreds of emergency vehicles. Do a little research before you spout your ignorance. A wise man once said "It's better to say nothing and have people think you're stupid, than to speak and erase all doubt".
Jbird, right on! Japanese car companies have sucked the lifeblood out of the American car industry. The only good that came from it is that it did awaken said industry to produce even better cars. Now they outdo the Japanese stuff.
Great thread Phil! I have two 870s. One 35 years old, one 10 years old. Both are flawless. My recommendations: Abu Garcia 5000C, 5600C; my Chevy 1964 C60 grain truck, it's been outside from the moment it was granted life and it's still kickin! One can do almost anything in it including haul all of my worldly possessions plus several ton of rock. A Buck 110 folder, and a 1911A1 in .45 ACP...won't live without any of these.
my 98 toyota tacoma 4x4 215,000 miles and counting.
lodge cast iron skilit and dutch oven
case knives
colmen lanterns
my 870
my abu-garcia baitcaster 25 years old
You boys can try to say anything you want in defense of the American auto industry. Whether they contributed to 9/11 victims or not has NO bearing on the quality of the vehicle. I know plenty of people who own American vehicles and others who own Japanese. By a considerable margin it's the American cars who need to be brought to the shop time and time again for all sorts of problems. The Japanese car owners generally get more miles/years before anything significant needs to be done on them. I will admit that American cars have gotten better, but they are still not at the Japanese level. People in this country have the right to buy whatever they want. Most people, excluding some here, prefer to spend it on something that will give them more for their dollar. That is why the Japanese auto industry has surpassed the American. It's not the fault of the Japanese, but of the Americans for not being able to make an equal or better product for an equal or better cost.
I had a 1991 chevy s-10 with 2.8 liter engine for six years. I put 250,000 miles on it with no problems. I sold it and last I heard it had over 300,000 and counting. Best vehicle I ever had.
My picks in random order:
my Model 12
Ford 8N tractor
Any ford F150 with the 300 straight six.
Coleman stove and lanterns.
Stanly wood planes.
you need em to make gun stocks.
I agree with many of everyone's favorites. Here are my favorites in no specific order. Schrade old timer/uncle henry knives the ones made in the USA, the new one are made in china. H&R topper shotguns just about everyone learn how to use a shotgun with one of them. My dad's (with a rebounding hammer and thumb lever) has had 3 generations learn on it. Marlin model 60 over 40+ years and does not miss a beat (just keep it clean). Marlin model 336, the more you use it the smoother it gets. Ruger blackhawk revolvers (mine have been though hell and back). I have gone through several shotguns over the years. I have sold or traded many of them, but never my winchester 1300. Many birds and rabbits have been taken with it, points like nothing else. Its as smooth as butter and every nic and scratch on it has a story behind it.
It says a lot that all you have to say is 870 and people know exactly what you mean. Same with 10/22, 336 in 30-30, Coleman lanterns and stoves, Zippo lighters, mag lights and Craftsman tools. I believe the outdoor community will be the cornerstone in bringing our economy back.
I'd like to add my Grumman jon boat. Built in 1985 and still going strong. It's powered with a 1985 Evinrude 25 hp outboard. Kids love it!
A few of my favorites:
Arrow T-50 Staple Gun. I keep one in my range bag and have used it on endless projects for years. It sometimes runs out of staples, that's the only bad thing I can say about it.
Glock Model 21 in 45 ACP, my Glock will still be shooting when that 1911 of yours is a paper weight! Go ahead, write your hate mail. I've shot thousands and thousands of rounds of ammo through it and the only thing that ever made it hiccup was my out-of-spec reloads (sizing die got dirty). It shoots anything, any load, any bullet, try that with your 1911.
Cessna single-engine planes, all of them (except the early 210's with gear problems) take care of it and it will fly. Some training planes have close to 20,000 hours, and still fly every day.
AKX
not a fan of toyotas i like american made hoping to get a f-150 for my first truck 15 now but my trucks right around the corner :)
to be far the tocoma in my opinion beats the s-10 and the ranger by far
I have a model 870. It is my 2nd gun I have gotten and It works and shoots awsome Im hoping to get my first deer with it this year.
my next shotgun will either be an 870 or a savage slug warrior. wonder which one will be more accurate with slugs?
i asolutely agree that an 870 will last forever. i bought a wingmaster off an old guy in a town north of mine. he had it for years when i bought it, and i put it through seven different kinds of hell and it still works great.
I'm on board with the 870, the Alladin Thermos, the cast iron frypan, the AK-47(hateful things), and the Kitchenaid mixer, but I have had a K-bar bust at the tang (they are not Marine-proof), and Buck 110s eventually get loose and fail to lock, keeping them off a "forever" list, though both are certainly wonderful knives.
The closest thing I've ever seen to a "forever" vehicle was a 1983 Toyota pickup. Back then their little aluminum block didn't have fuel injection, the front wheels had leaf springs, and there was a little $2 peice of plastic in the wheel well they called a fuel filter. I sold a 1968 Ford 3/4 ton to get it (I needed some gas mileage) and then proceeded to try to prove just why I really needed to go back to a "real" truck. I never did.
Anyway, two more for consideration:
1) those red handled claw hammers. I know I find mine in the yard every Spring. Such abuse does not seem to affect performance.
2) The Marlin 39A -- the longest running production rifle, ever.
All Big 4x4 wheels are more of fitting to use. Either on dry and rough roads even on wet and slippery ones. And riding on big vehicles like this is truly an adventure. tampa truck toppers
1911 pistol, best pistol ever made period, m1 garand best rifle ever made and KA BAR knife best knife
Stuff from the 50's and 60's that I still use:
-- Buck 110
-- Craftsman tools
-- Pfleuger Medalist fly reels (made in USA then)
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My 870 of course, and my wifes mouth. No matter how mich it's used, it never seems to wear out at all.
One for the ages?
I'd throw in the Stanley classic vacuum thermos.
Yes, kudos to PM for daring to anger the PC gods by mentioning a firearm. Our local rags of newpapers print these hurricane survival guides every time the season rolls around. They mention the typical nonsense like flashlights, bottled water, etc but I've never seen a firearm mentioned in ANY of them. You would have to be blind, deaf, and dumb to have watched the aftermath of Katrina and not put one on the top of your list. Worthless journalist vermin.
I have my grandfathers Mitchell Garcia 300. He past in 1976. Darn thing is as good as new. It's a spinning reel for you non fishing folks.
Sorry for the double post. I'm old and have a stutter in my trigger finger.
Frankly, I've never met a tool I couldn't break...
jbtool, I agree w/ you on the Ridgid pipe wrenches. Gotta' love the 870, and my wife's Kitchenaid has ground up more deer than I care to tally up. My Leatherman, which I found in a field while deer hunting, has served me well for 15 years.
Woulda loved to have my Grandpa's KBAR, but my deginerate relatives ransacked his house before his corpse was even cool, that's OK, he gave me his pre-64 Model 70 .270 years before he died, and that's one helluva tool in my book.
SL, Toyota recalled more vehicles last year than they sold. All of the Japanese car companies are subsidized by their government, and have been for years. None of thier American plants have been open long enough to even have retirees, so they operate with none of that cost concern. Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Isuzu, Hyundai all donated SQUAT to victim's charities after 9/11, Ford, GM, and Chrysler donated over 50 MILLION dollars, and hundreds of emergency vehicles. Do a little research before you spout your ignorance. A wise man once said "It's better to say nothing and have people think you're stupid, than to speak and erase all doubt".
Kudos to Popular Mechanics for giving props to the 870. This is something sportsmen have known for a long time & it's part of the reason I have two of them.
Im a firm believer in my Browning A5 Light 12. It was my grandfathers as of 1953 and yes it kicks like a mule, but I don't for see it ever malfunctioning.
Good'uns:
Leatherman
Ka-Bar Marine knife
1911
S&W .38
AK of most varieties
Ames Army shovel
Things of mine that shouldn't be but are:
a '96 Ford Explorer with 300k+ miles
my late 60's Massey Ferguson 135 tractor with ????hrs
a Pfleuger electric trolling motor that is ????? yrs old
Most of nominees have been mentioned already. However, I'm gonna put in a vote for a mini-maglite. I've carried one in my pack since my first hunt, which was 8 years ago.
Remington 870
Ford 6 cylinder trucks
Ford model A
Buck knives
Ruger revolvers
Woodsman Pal machete
Snap On rachetes
Leatherman Wave/Supertool
Aladdin Thermos until they stopped making them in the United States
List of things you only have to buy once...
I've had my father's Mossberg 500AT for 27 years. It was worn some when I got it, and I have no idea when it was made.
I have my Ka-bar knife issued me in 1974.
I have some underwear that... uh... better not metion that here.
Oh! Second on the Ka-bar. Mine is nowhere near 35 years old but it has been through 3 trips to Iraq and then some.
I might consider a 870 if my old Winchester Model 12s ever wear out.
RCBS and MEC reloading presses come to mind. Also, Gransfors Bruks axes and Buck 110 folders. I see a few old Jeep J body pickups still hauling firewood.
Leatherman multi tools, Good old Buck knives, and about any firearm made by Ruger.....
I read somewhere that the basic patent for the Coleman Lantern is one of the oldest unchanged patented inventions still available in it's original form. I believe it first came out in the mid to late 1800's.
no arguments on the 870 my dad has one thats twenty something almost thirty i think years old and its works as good as the ones being sold in the stores
Leatherman PST and Supertool, I have never had one wear out, the service to get your tool fixed is superb, and they can help with every task. I would also like to add the S&W revolvers, they never seem to go bad.
Here's another vote for Buck knives. Gave one to Dad for Christmas 35 years ago and, unfortunately, got it back 2 years ago. He carried it every day and it looks like it's ready for another 35 years.
My nominations include the following:
1. Howard Hill Tembo longbow
2. Kelly Perfect double-bit axe
3. Svea or Optimus camp stoves
4. Filson anything
5. 1969 Toyota Landcruiser (mine is not for sale)
My grandmas old cast metal handcranked meatgrinder.. its like 50-60 years old and has had enough meat through it to feed a stadion for a week and it grinds the meat slowly and coarsely in a way no modern meatgrinder ive ever tested can replicate.. just pieces it up withouth punishing the meat, locking the taste in.. And its never had any parts replaced etc. dont know the make, but its virtually unbreakable and might last many generations still :D
Cutco cutlery, which make kitchen cutlery and Hunting knives are the best out there, they also manufacture K-BAR...
870 20GA..sorry..it turned 58 years old...last month..
Popular Mechanics has been friendly to weapons esp. firearms as far as I recall. They even featured the 1911, the Glock 17 and Daisy Red Ryder carbine, in different issues, of course. They've featured the weapons of the Special Forces. They especially love warplanes, both new and old, especially the latter, which have a market with very rich civilians.
PM, at least in issues I've read, has no problems featuring weapons systems (warplanes, warships, military vehicles), or even the big-engined trucks, cars and motorcycles that the PC crowd hate. They have Jay Leno as a columnist. Leno is like the anti-Prius.
Speaking of reliable stuff, obviously the hammers and screwdrivers have an advantage because they have no moving parts. Folding knives, pliers, etc. push the envelope a bit. "Machines" with lots of moving/stressed parts are even more remarkable.
-Buck knives
-Leatherman PST II (still my favorite, even without locking blades)
-Coleman lanterns
-Nikon F, F2 and F3 SLR cameras (if you drop it on your bare foot, your foot will need repairs)
-old Singer sewing machines (I've seen a hand-cranked model once that was still in use)
-the Honda "Cub" motorcycle, the original version, not the new "Wave". If anyone still wonders why Honda has such a sterling reputation, just look at the Cub, pound for pound, there is no tougher motorcycle. Actually, there's not even a need to say pound for pound.
I would have to say that our John Deer 4020 is about as industructable as anything. Fourty some years old. Vice grip pliers, and of course the good old 870.
Ford 8N tractors.
Lee Enfield rifles.After serving many Allied troops through Europe decades ago, their still thousands of them being used today.
My nominates would be:
-Craftsman tools
-Masey Ferguson tractors
-Lodge cast iron cookware
-Buck Knives
-Böker Knives
-The Osterizer blender, when most are use and discard, this little monster can work more than 10 years between minor fixes.
-A mule powered sugarcane mill, pot and clay molds, all made in Monterrey, Mexico more than 100 years ago, and still making piloncillos.
I will second the nomination for Lodge Cast Iron cookware.
That is all I use at home to cook with. I have not killed it yet. My wife is on her second or third set of aluminum and Teflon coated pans.
Tom the troll
If my 870 had a brain, it would wonder what the hell it did wrong. It never failed me once, it's killed literally thousands of birds, and yet I take my Benelli 95% of the time when I go out for birds now. I'm a traitor to that gun.
Anywho, I'll throw out the old fashioned handi-man jack. The only thing that fails on those things is the spring that works the switch lever to go up or down and that's not hard to replace. I know there's so many others I consider in this category but I'm drawing blanks.
We have a EUREKA(canister) vacuum Circa 1984; still going strong..
Mitchell fishing reels! good one! I only have had experience with ones in the 400 series. I believe it was a 440 my grandpa always had me using. Most likely circa '70's
We wouldn't want to forget that Winchester M 94 as a "forever" gun either. I still prefer my Model 12 in the field to the 870, I even like the M-1300 Winchester pump better actually, which puts me in the minority I s'pose but what the hell, good thing we don't all covet the same exact pieces, how boring that'd be for the writers.
Someone mentioned the old Craftsman tools, still use a set my Dad had; just keeps on working hard.
Do NOT miss the old lawn mower engines of the early 60's...remember the ones that had a crank on the top you 'd wind up, then hit the button to spin it over? If the handle on the crank didn't slip back and whack ya, the excitement of all that winding and wind just to get a brief "whire-whire-whire" and no start! Glad that system didn't last!
A quality saddle plus good tack if properly maintained and stored. A Case or Boker pocket knife or a Hamilton Railway Special pocket watch seem to last forever even with everyday useage. Judging from the number I see locally apparently you never wear out a seventies vintage Ford F-250 pickup with manual locking hubs and a four speed. You guys beat me to everything else I can imagine at this moment except for the Silva compass that I have from when I was a kid in the Boy Scouts.
How about the gun produced in the highest number ever, AK-47.
my dad gave me his wingmaster, i'll give it to my son/daughter, and so on. i really believe it'll last that long. i just hope they dont change the 12ga ammo anytime in the next 1-200 years...
i have a anvil that is over 100 years old and it still works fine. not a minutes trouble.
Oh yeah, I forgot my Winchester 52
I will add the Remington Model 1100 automatic shotgun. I have one purchased in 1984 that has never, ever jammed and that has always been a pleasure to shoot. It is a Tournament Skeet model, and I upgraded the barrel to one that will accept screw-in chokes. These shotguns retain their good looks, and their honest steel and walnut components don't leave me cold like "plastic" shotguns do!
2 stroke lawnboy mowers (if you add oil to the gas)
1940-1980 OMC 2 cylinder outboards
rcbs rockchucker press
wilton vises
lincoln all copper welders
u.s.army compass
eagle oil cans
buck and gerber knifes
swingline wall mount pencil sharpeners
cast iron bullet molds
old craftsman cast iron table saws
bmw boxer twin motorcycles
flatfish (fishing lure)
mitchell 300 reels
maglite flashlights
starrett precision tools
schwinn bicycles
Farmall letter series tractors. They haven't been built in over 50 years and i still see them every day.
Well, some of those mentioned are hard to beat. 1998 Silverado with 282,000 miles. Original motor, original transmission and gearboxes. 870 with about as many rounds fired as miles on the pickup.
Let me know in about 30 years how those Benelli's worked out for you...
Snap-On hand tool, any: they don't wear out, period. A 20 year old Snap-On screwdriver blade is as sharp as a new one.
Craftsman hand tool, any; yeah, they break and wear out. But then you take the broken parts to Sears, even if they are 40 years old, and the guy hands you a new one on the spot. I'm not cheating; the Craftsman guarantee is the thing that lasts forever.
My Savage 99RS in .303 Savage and Marlin 336 in .35 Remington. Both guns are over 40 years old and will give to my grandchildren. My wife is also old and beautiful - still runs like a Rolex. I'm keeping her for myself.
When I got too old for my 20 gauge 870, I got a Mossberg 835. Not that I don't like my 835 but I feel bad that my 870 no longer goes hunting with me. I love that gun and after I get myself a rifle and a crossbow, I may buy a 12 gauge 870.
(1) A U.S. made Kabar Marine Corps knife. (some of the new ones today are made in Taiwan!)(2) A Winchester 21 sxs shotgun can be abused, but can never be worn out shooting it.
I used to duck and goose hunt with two fanatical waterfowlers (not gun nuts) who shot Rem. 870 express 12 ga. 3"magnums. I never saw them clean those guns. When they became rusty from rain (leaving them outside of the cabin overnight) the guns were covered with camo duct tape. Not once did I ever witness a failure to fire or eject from those two abused pump guns. After winning a high dollar one of a kind custom pistol at a DU benefit, these two heroes promptly traded the pistol for two new Remington 870 express 12's.
Taking nothing away from the 870, a great gun, but I'll shoot my Winchester Model 12 'til the day I die. 20 gauge, light and dependable, clean it and count on it.
Made in the 1920's, and still works as good as new.
If I miss on the first or second shot, I sometimes send a third shot just as a wave-goodbye.
Have a couple of Model 12 16 gauges as well,(1930's-1950's vintage) love to carry them, 12 gauges are getting a little heavy in my older years.
I can't see far enough anymore to need magnums, so I only shoot the roosters that the 20 or 16 will reach.
"Old Timer" knives have cleaned all my birds, inherited from Dad.
The good old stuff is the best.
I have a 100 year old Winchester model 94 30/30 carbine that I still use to take deer with every fall. It was my Grandfather's 12th birthday present back in 1911. He used it up to the day he past away.
Tom the Troll.
SD whitetail hunter, I'll send you my mailing address and I'll take that unloved 870 of your hands and give it some loving!
Great thread Phil! I have two 870s. One 35 years old, one 10 years old. Both are flawless. My recommendations: Abu Garcia 5000C, 5600C; my Chevy 1964 C60 grain truck, it's been outside from the moment it was granted life and it's still kickin! One can do almost anything in it including haul all of my worldly possessions plus several ton of rock. A Buck 110 folder, and a 1911A1 in .45 ACP...won't live without any of these.
my 98 toyota tacoma 4x4 215,000 miles and counting.
lodge cast iron skilit and dutch oven
case knives
colmen lanterns
my 870
my abu-garcia baitcaster 25 years old
how about a 94 isuzu trooper my dad t bones someone with hit totaled it and drove it 50 miles home
I have a 96 isuzu Trooper. Greatest car ever. Had a 1989 Trooper before that. Never had a single mechanical issue with either of them.
I read somewhere that the basic patent for the Coleman Lantern is one of the oldest unchanged patented inventions still available in it's original form. I believe it first came out in the mid to late 1800's.
I have a Gerber multi-tool that is 22yrs+,a Craftman's ratchet set from '77, a Estwing hammer I found in '81,and my great grandfathers block plane from Germany.Most of my firearms are less than 20yrs old(I am guilty of trading/selling) so I guess they don't qualify yet.
it might be a long shot but how about those new remington 887s? they look pretty darn durable.
Ditto on the Buck 110. Still have and use the one I bought to carry when I was a 2LT and in over 30 years of use and abuse it has never failed me.
John Deere model 60, circa late 1950's I think. Nothing runs like a 60 year old Deere.
I have my dads 870, manufactured in September 1951, fires well, loud as hell..
I also have a 1997 Crown Victoria Police Interceptor, dang good car, good mileage, power, a good addition to my other 2 Fords and wifes HD Sportster..
My 55 chevy belair with a 327 in it. oops not original eng.
Gruman conoe,
Buck 119
---An economical, durable knife that has stood the test of time.
Red Rider BB gun
Third vote for the Buck 110. Affordable and foolproof. If they just made it in a better steel (which they did for a while, in the "Alaskan guide" series), it would be the only knife I'd ever need.
I agree with vice grips. I've had mine for some 30 years.
I've got a 8N Ford tractor Thats not pretty, but starts eright up. It was made in 1952, and has a 1949 rebuilt mmotor.
Amen on the Woodsman pal! Another to add is the orginal Marbels saftey axe.
I have to vote for my GE Elec-Trak 15hp 36volt DC electric tractor (circa 1971). Out pulls any garden tractor up to 18hp, instant torque, always ready to go and charges off house current for pennies. To this I'd add my Savage24 combo gun, my dear old Jeep Wrangler, The Lehman's 4 ton cast iron framed come-along plus any hammer, axe or knife manufactured by Estwing. (oh and the Leatherman Wave too...).
This blog sort of points out the things we have in common...a healthy respect for things that are dependable, and that last. My list is shorter than I wish it were:
Granddad's Model '97 Winchester pump 12
Dad's old custom Mauser, which began life before WWI
Any Winchester Model 62 .22 pump
Any 1911 Colt, and just about any S&W Model 10 .38 spec.
My old Lee Loader handset, which got me into reloading
Ancient Lyman scales
Mannlicher rifle, 6.5mm
Browning Superposed
Colt Python
and most of all [I'll be hated for this]...a good woman, far better than I deserve.
Blue
Toyota Tacomas, they don't break period. It's the truck of choice in upstate SC for getting you to hell and back. Mine's got 155,000 miles and hasn't hicupped yet, i'm trying to put 300,000 on it minimum. Also Coleman lanterns and the Zebco 33 my dad gave me for my first fishing reel. He had it in the 70's and it functions flawlessly to this day. I've had numerous high dollar bait casters cease to work but I plan on giving the Zebco to my kids.
How about a little 40 year old Crossman 760 pump bb gun that has taken out more critters than one could count.
duck tape and a browning A-5 but not together
1911 in .45 ACP
Beechcraft Bonanza
Farmall H and M
My 1948 Jeep CJ2A (although my '97 TJ is faster and rides better)
Browning A5
.30-30
.30-06
I second the Stanley thermos. One that I think has not been specifically mentioned here is the Ruger 10/22 rifle. Also, a Marlin Golden 39A that was given to me by my mother. She got it in 81 when my uncle traded it to her for her old 73 Monte Carlo. I LOVE that gun. I also like the Old Timer knives, but I have found that the older ones (60s, 70s) are far superior to the newer ones (90s - 2000s).
Speaking of the 870, they are spectacularly blue collar and reliable. My only beef: Safety on the trigger guard instead of up where I can work it with my thumb as I come up on a rising covey of quail. I could never get used to finding it with my finger.
Hey Matt28,
You're absolutly right about the hurricane survival guides. After food & water, an 870 & my Glock are at the top of my list.
My 870 was not as good as it should of been. I bought one of the 870's with the bad barrel. Remember those? Any way it never burst but it hated to eject high brass shells after 100 rounds went through it. No problems with low brass shells though. Don't have it any more, but I will never part with my 1100.
Sorry guys, you're too newfangled for me.
My Model 12 12 gauge is the newest gun I have, made in 1953. (Winchester has a webpage where you can enter the serial number and it will tell you the year).
My 16 gauge is from 1922, and 20 gauge is from 1928. And they work just fine.
Oldest gun I have is from 1870's from Birmingham, England and I believe is a prototype that never caught on, firing pins attached on a swivel to the hammers, and I believe it's an 11 gauge, from all indications. Would still fire a low load 10 gauge shell through it if I wanted. Very nice old gun.
Despite the tons of poorly made junk that we buy during our lifetimes, the number of items that are truly lifetime investments of the highest quality are almost endless and the list would fill pages. I particularly like the choice of the Browning Auto-5. I've shot the devil out of mine since 1957 and you cannot make it quit. I disagree that it "kicks like a mule", though. I never even feel it, and I am 76.I regret that it's no longer made. The fact is that if you take care of almost any quality firearm, they will all last a couple of lifetimes or more.
Tom
Tom,
I agree with you about the quality of the Browning A-5, and wish you well for your remaining years in the field. I just buried my father-in-law at the age of 93, and he enjoyed his farm land and wildlife until the end.
One of my fondest memories is hunting with a gentleman gunsmith who was then in his 80's, he would use a double barrel black powder 12 gauge, walking through a weed patch with a pipe in his mouth, and when a pheasant got up he had to take two steps to the right to see around the smoke to see if it came down. I still have one gun he fixed for me, and will never part from it.
I would have to add these to the list
Ridgid pipe wrenches
S&W modle 28
Mertron Fire pumps when serviced
Puma Fixed blade knife
Kabar USMC knife
Chevy 350 motor
H&R 10 ga. shotgun
I agree on the 870. Just bought my 7 year old a youth model and he will enherit my 12 when I die but until then he is not gettig it. Will add craftman tools, remington 700 and Savage 110. The 110 is ugly as crap but it last forever. I have all kinds of guns custom and not and I shoot my 870 and 700 almost exclusivly. Son shoots my 25 year old .243 110. Use to carry a beretta 391 and a 870 for back up in the duck blind. Now I only carry an 870 cause I threw the 391 in a LA marsh and never looked back.
BUCKHUNTER, Those reels are like a timex watch.Ive had a couple passed down to me.theres a lot of great imformation above, so Ill just ad my ol'zippo lighter.
Hey, Ricardo RodrĂguez--
I second the Boker knives. Also, the yellow handled Case knives with the castrating blade...like carrying a scalpel around.
As to the age of the guns, since they are now being dated...my Dad's Mauser is 1917, his Dad's Winchester '97 is turn of the twentieth century...my Mannlichers are 1903...Winchester 62 pump .22 is 1941...National Match 1911 is about 1969...our Farmall Tractor is about 1953 vintage.
I was WWII issue.
Blue
schrade old timer
winchester Model 12
Chevy 350 motor as well, had a Chevy Sport Van 20, had at least 800,000 miles on it when the tranny went. Only major work on that engine was a cam and lifters a few years after a 50 mile drive with no oil in it. (long story)
Also nominate the Buck Lite Folder, the perfect hunting knife, bought in 1985 I believe, still tight and able to shave with it.
The 12 gauge and .30/30 and .30-06 cartridges.
Woods three and five star sleeping bags
Coleman lanterns and stoves
Mag lights
Gerber knives
Rapala original floating minnow
My Daiwa 1000C ultralight spinning reel is 34 years old and has caught literally thousands of fish, from yellow perch, bluegill, and crappie, to largemouth bass and channel cats. The only part replaced was the handle, about five years ago, which cost me $15 (I paid $20 for the reel when I bought it new!). A fine reel.
Jbird, right on! Japanese car companies have sucked the lifeblood out of the American car industry. The only good that came from it is that it did awaken said industry to produce even better cars. Now they outdo the Japanese stuff.
I had a 1991 chevy s-10 with 2.8 liter engine for six years. I put 250,000 miles on it with no problems. I sold it and last I heard it had over 300,000 and counting. Best vehicle I ever had.
Vice Grip Pliars, Crecent Wrenches, Fencing tool and a spool of baleing Wire. The ultimate farmers repair kit.
Give a Mossberg 500 any day any where. But 870 is not a bad backup.
3 liter v6 ford motors
ruger firearms
mariner 9.9
john deere
Chevrolet V-8s, S&W revolvers, my USMC K-bar, the Case 470 tractor that I wish I had never sold, my Rem. 870 and 700lh, and my Marlin 336.
My picks in random order:
my Model 12
Ford 8N tractor
Any ford F150 with the 300 straight six.
Coleman stove and lanterns.
Stanly wood planes.
you need em to make gun stocks.
I agree with many of everyone's favorites. Here are my favorites in no specific order. Schrade old timer/uncle henry knives the ones made in the USA, the new one are made in china. H&R topper shotguns just about everyone learn how to use a shotgun with one of them. My dad's (with a rebounding hammer and thumb lever) has had 3 generations learn on it. Marlin model 60 over 40+ years and does not miss a beat (just keep it clean). Marlin model 336, the more you use it the smoother it gets. Ruger blackhawk revolvers (mine have been though hell and back). I have gone through several shotguns over the years. I have sold or traded many of them, but never my winchester 1300. Many birds and rabbits have been taken with it, points like nothing else. Its as smooth as butter and every nic and scratch on it has a story behind it.
It says a lot that all you have to say is 870 and people know exactly what you mean. Same with 10/22, 336 in 30-30, Coleman lanterns and stoves, Zippo lighters, mag lights and Craftsman tools. I believe the outdoor community will be the cornerstone in bringing our economy back.
I'd like to add my Grumman jon boat. Built in 1985 and still going strong. It's powered with a 1985 Evinrude 25 hp outboard. Kids love it!
My 16Ga 870 Made in 1961
My 1100 Made in 1981
My Stevens 311 Made in 1963
My Walther PP made in 1951
Buck 110 Bought in 1965
Victorinox Champ Knife made in 1969
A 1952 Lincoln Cosmopolitan I bought in 1961, Sold in 1980, Still going strong and the guy won't sell it back to me! :( Much more .
You boys can try to say anything you want in defense of the American auto industry. Whether they contributed to 9/11 victims or not has NO bearing on the quality of the vehicle. I know plenty of people who own American vehicles and others who own Japanese. By a considerable margin it's the American cars who need to be brought to the shop time and time again for all sorts of problems. The Japanese car owners generally get more miles/years before anything significant needs to be done on them. I will admit that American cars have gotten better, but they are still not at the Japanese level. People in this country have the right to buy whatever they want. Most people, excluding some here, prefer to spend it on something that will give them more for their dollar. That is why the Japanese auto industry has surpassed the American. It's not the fault of the Japanese, but of the Americans for not being able to make an equal or better product for an equal or better cost.
A few of my favorites:
Arrow T-50 Staple Gun. I keep one in my range bag and have used it on endless projects for years. It sometimes runs out of staples, that's the only bad thing I can say about it.
Glock Model 21 in 45 ACP, my Glock will still be shooting when that 1911 of yours is a paper weight! Go ahead, write your hate mail. I've shot thousands and thousands of rounds of ammo through it and the only thing that ever made it hiccup was my out-of-spec reloads (sizing die got dirty). It shoots anything, any load, any bullet, try that with your 1911.
Cessna single-engine planes, all of them (except the early 210's with gear problems) take care of it and it will fly. Some training planes have close to 20,000 hours, and still fly every day.
AKX
not a fan of toyotas i like american made hoping to get a f-150 for my first truck 15 now but my trucks right around the corner :)
to be far the tocoma in my opinion beats the s-10 and the ranger by far
I have a model 870. It is my 2nd gun I have gotten and It works and shoots awsome Im hoping to get my first deer with it this year.
my next shotgun will either be an 870 or a savage slug warrior. wonder which one will be more accurate with slugs?
i asolutely agree that an 870 will last forever. i bought a wingmaster off an old guy in a town north of mine. he had it for years when i bought it, and i put it through seven different kinds of hell and it still works great.
I'm on board with the 870, the Alladin Thermos, the cast iron frypan, the AK-47(hateful things), and the Kitchenaid mixer, but I have had a K-bar bust at the tang (they are not Marine-proof), and Buck 110s eventually get loose and fail to lock, keeping them off a "forever" list, though both are certainly wonderful knives.
The closest thing I've ever seen to a "forever" vehicle was a 1983 Toyota pickup. Back then their little aluminum block didn't have fuel injection, the front wheels had leaf springs, and there was a little $2 peice of plastic in the wheel well they called a fuel filter. I sold a 1968 Ford 3/4 ton to get it (I needed some gas mileage) and then proceeded to try to prove just why I really needed to go back to a "real" truck. I never did.
Anyway, two more for consideration:
1) those red handled claw hammers. I know I find mine in the yard every Spring. Such abuse does not seem to affect performance.
2) The Marlin 39A -- the longest running production rifle, ever.
All Big 4x4 wheels are more of fitting to use. Either on dry and rough roads even on wet and slippery ones. And riding on big vehicles like this is truly an adventure. tampa truck toppers
1911 pistol, best pistol ever made period, m1 garand best rifle ever made and KA BAR knife best knife
Stuff from the 50's and 60's that I still use:
-- Buck 110
-- Craftsman tools
-- Pfleuger Medalist fly reels (made in USA then)
I find it interesting when people list American made cars or trucks as being reliable and lasting forever. I surely have not found that to be the case. I don't think any vehicle will last forever, but the Japanese brands will surely outlast and outperform any American brand by a considerable margin. If American vehicles were so good we wouldn't have had 2 out of the 3 major manufacturers on the verge of bankruptcy. A Toyota will beat a Ford, Chevy or Chrysler any day of the week.
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