


October 05, 2009
Another Early Season Giant!
By Scott Bestul
Editor's Note: Check out the full story of this huge buck in our photo gallery.
It’s impossible to ignore the whitetail rut, but here is yet another reason to focus on early season when you know there’s a monster buck in the area. I don’t know much detail about this buck, other than it was shot in southeastern Kansas by a young man named Parker Madl and the green non-typical score is rumored to be in the 230” neighborhood. That’s a very good neighborhood indeed!

Awesome buck, Parker!
I assume that many readers of this blog are hard at it right now, so I’m curious about your approach to early season hunting. Are you hunting a specific buck you’ve located through scouting and observation? Or do you focus on good food sources and just count on a nice buck showing up to join the chow line? Other early season tactics that folks might benefit from? Anxious to hear your thoughts!
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I'm seeing the same bucks I scouted all summer. No surprises. I'm waiting for the corn to be cut to get the big bucks back into the woods.
Wow, that is a Giant. My hunting time is very limited right now due to parenting obligations and a wife in school, not to mention work, so I am hunting very close to home for convenience. Not my best strategy. Early i always focus on acorns or other mast (apples, persimmons). I know there are decent buck in the area year in and year out, so i'll hope this year one offers me a shot. I'm less than a mile from a spot where a gent killed a 135 and 160 buck in the past few years. That's giant for south Jersey.
I went upland and archery deer hunting this weekend. Definitely seeing less deer than before grouse season started. Travel routes have been disrupted. At least one buck that I have watched has gone nocturnal. Some bedding areas have also been disturbed. Gotta think this through for the next time I can go. I have to think this through.
What do you say to that but WOW!
I hunted acorns this past weekend.. and I mean it literally! I hunt National Forest land without a farm around for miles... So find a specific buck is really hard... So early season I hunt the acrons, and this year there doenst seam to be many... The area surrounding my cabin is almost totally oaks with some pines mixed in, besides the cedar swawps, but this year they just arent producing... the area i am in is also a dry, acidy soil... but about a mile away an area that has a lower elevation and better soil had some HUGE OLD white oaks that were producing... (the oaks byt the cabin are mostly reds)... I sat on this white oak flat on saturday night and sunday morning... on saturday I had a spike with the smallest antlers ever come within 5 yards.... this deer was atleast 2 1/2 years old, but his one antler was only 3 inches and the other about 1 inch... we had 2 bad winters in a row, so maybe he just made it through winter and couldnt devote energy to antler growth... that or he injured himself..
Anyway, on Sunday morning there were 11 does all feeding around me at one time... in a few weeks if the acrons last hopefully some bucks will join them... but the area also gets hunted apparently since i found some treestands... so once too many guys hunt it the deer will aviod it in daylight... oh well... the rut will be here sooner than we know it...
What a monster! That buck blows away the thurty pointer and the rest of the Wisconsin bucks and Bestul's buck too!! Damn kids have all the luck.
Thats a knee-shaking,jawdroppin,body trembling buck. Makes me lose my breath and drop beads of sweat just looking at the pic. congrats!!!
Wow what a deer! If I had it my way I would be in the woods every day scouting and prepareing. Work and other things prevent it. So I plant my food plots and hunt the locations that have produced in the past and hope.Other than trail cameras wich I use sparringly because I am afraid they will be stolen I use travel corridors and food plots. Wow what a buck!
This buck was taken in the Overland Park/Stanley Kansas area just South of Kansas City. The guy in the background wounded this animal last year and has several Trail Cam shots of the deer over the past two years. He (Background) has been hunting this Buck for the past two years and has actually lost a friendship over this animal. Both are employed at a very popular Outdoor Store located in Olathe Kansas and had been hunting together for a few years. An argument over who would take first crack at this animal was the cause of the seperation in the friendship (What a shame). He was not allowed to hunt the property any longer however the young man that ended up shooting the Buck had some adjacent property that the Buck also Roamed. This deer has been bait fed for two years and they had him patterned down to the minute. Great animal, but at the cost of a friendship, I don't know if that is worth it!
Great buck and congradulations. Not sure about baiting this buck for 2 years, but again congradulations
Buckstruck, sounds like you're VERY close to the situation. Is that you in the background?
I love to hunt a variety of food sources, but my favorite is near standing corn and alfalfa. With alfalfa it seems best if it was last cut a few weeks before the beggining of season. The deer seem to love the new growth. I also am not afraid to change food sources as the deer are often doing during this part of the fall.
Impressive! Congrtatulations!
THE WEATHER HERE IN NORTHEAST OHIO HAS BEEN DOWN RIGHT LOUSY. HIGH WINDS AND HEAVY RAIN SINCE THE BEGINNING OF BOW SEASON. I HAVE SET STANDS IN AREA WHERE A NICE BUCKS HANGS OUT SAW HIM MANY TIMES WHILE HUNTING GROUNDHOGS. ONLY ONE OTHER HUNTER IS IN THIS AREA, BUT SO FAR MR BIG HAS NOT SHOWN HIMSELF. THE OTHER HUNTER HAS A BAIT PILE SET UP . REALLY HARD TO HUNT STANDING CORNFIELD RIGHT NOW AS FARMERS START TO CUT CROP FIELDS MORE AND MORE DEER WILL BE EXPOSED. SO I USE BOTH METHODS HUNTING FOOD AREAS AND PLACES THAT I KNOW HOLD A FINE BUCK GOOD LUCK TO ALL
early season hunting a bust so far for me after hanging trial cams all summer and getting lots of good pics. 1 buck in a main frame 8 showed himself on my cams during the day and after pulling my cams from the area before season i have not seen him in any of the 3 spots i had cams spread out over a mile. he showd himself a week ago on a cam at night... i thought early season could be the key to getting a view of him but now i am hopefully looking towards the rut.
There is a lot of controversy surrounding this deer, I have talked to several people who think it was shot early. At first I didn’t really think much of it then it was pointed out to me that the kid’s boots are dry and so is the ground around his feet. The deer was shot over corn in the kid’s backyard just south of 159th and mission. I hunt very close and it stormed all day opening day so it doesn’t make much sense to me that his boots are dry. It’s also obvious the deer came out of velvet within a couple days of being shot. It is possible the deer came out of velvet that late but I can’t remember ever seeing a buck in velvet much after the first week of September in this area. I’m surprised the conservation department is not investigating this deer.
StilwellBuckNut it is a shame that you have to write these jealous comments on this forum. I was there and I personally saw the deer the night it was killed. You obviously know nothing about what you are posting. What a shame.
I don’t know, I’ve heard some pretty questionable things about this deer I don’t know much about the guy who shot it but the guy in the background has pretty poor hunting ethics so it wouldn’t surprise me if bucknut is on to something.
It really is a shame whenever someone shoots a monster buck it is always thought to be poached or shot before season I know both of these young men and know that they are true hunters and do everything by the book. I have no doubt in my mind that this buck was taken the right way. I wouldnt be surprised if these posts about it being shot illegaly are from the young man that was such a weisel to even loose a friendship over it are posting these rediculous comments haha it makes me laugh! Congrats Parker hell of a deer.
I agree with buckhunter1. (Who is no relation in case your wondering.)
With every big buck there are several other disappointed hunters who wish they had tagged it. I'm not much into rumors. The fact is the young man has a legal tag on a deer we all wish we were holding. Good for him. Also goodluck at state this year with your wrestling.
just got a few questions for u nuckleheads! why the wardrobe changes in the pictures? why is the ground dry? it did rain all day where u shot the deer i know that for a fact!! if u dont believe me about the weather look at the weather report for stilwell, ks for september 21st the day that this buck was supposedly shot... didnt take a genius to put all this together or a member from csi.. i dont know but i think its all a little fishy
I hope thes remarks aren't true, but would like to see how this all plays out. I dont think we have heard the last of this. It would be a total disrespect for this animal to be known as a scam.
Great deer and he got with the bow (the real way to hunt). Unfortunately, the circumstances the deer was taken are iffy. Even if it was legal I have a problem with excesive baiting (if they baited). Real hunters use a bow and don't bait. The best are the guys that have machines on a timer that spit food out all year then come hunting season they just sit in a blind with a high powered rifle and shoot one of the many (tame) deer that have come to rely on being feed.
Another thing, its a disgrace that a friendship could be lost over a deer.
doesnt matter if there is controversy or not any deer this big should be looked at by the conservation department thats the only way rumors wont be started, if you shoot a deer this big i really recomend calling the conservation department your self just so there wont be any questions. does anyone know if this deer has been checked out by the conservarion department yet?
I live in the same area as all the involved parties and know some of the involved personally. I hunt relatively close to where this deer was taken and it was pouring down raining all of opening day, IMO this deer was definately taken before the season started. Not only has a friendship been lossed but the kid in the picture didnt have pictures of this deer untill after the gentleman who hunts on the "adjacent property" which is about a mile away trail cam was stolen off his property. if i had to guess i could and im sure you to could guess who took the camera. so for you who say that jealousy is the reason people question the ethical kill of this deer, I would say that jealousy is the reason that this deer was more then likely poached before season and on property they didnt have permission on. Not to mention the property that the deer was originally spotted on all summer long produced a 160's and 170's deer the past two seasons. This should def be investigated.
And buckhunter1 if you know these kids so well and know they do everything by the book why dont you ask the kid in the back ground where he got all his neck collars and bands from geese, i can tell you that involves a bag of doritos.
Ok- So for everyone yellin poacher! poacher! I believe that is incorrect maybe I am old fashioned but I stand by our constitution in saying everyone is innocent till proven guilty. If the buck is legit then have it investigated to have the nasayers proven wrong, why not nothing to hide from right? I don't know the circumstances folks but I will tell you I live maybe 5 miles from where this was takin and it was pooring opening night thats why I didn't go hunting (if thats the night it was takin). But awsome deer baited or not!! Huntin is huntin and all hunters should watch out for each other!! The animal rights folks don't fight within each other if we do you just make them stronger- GOOD HUNTIN TO ALL
holy cow nice work...i gotta get outta school so i can hunt...my mom won't lemme skip cause of b-ball dang it
StilwellBuckNut has spotted the smoke and where there is smoke there is probably fire. For those who now the rest of the story ... please blog your insight. It is time more of us to step up and put an end to the out of season hunts, lease jumping, trespassing and poaching. The rumors have spread across the state like wildfire. Other than blind luck the story doesn't seem to fit the deer. Perhaps both young men should be questioned to the validity of a potentially record bow kill in Kansas.
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This buck was taken in the Overland Park/Stanley Kansas area just South of Kansas City. The guy in the background wounded this animal last year and has several Trail Cam shots of the deer over the past two years. He (Background) has been hunting this Buck for the past two years and has actually lost a friendship over this animal. Both are employed at a very popular Outdoor Store located in Olathe Kansas and had been hunting together for a few years. An argument over who would take first crack at this animal was the cause of the seperation in the friendship (What a shame). He was not allowed to hunt the property any longer however the young man that ended up shooting the Buck had some adjacent property that the Buck also Roamed. This deer has been bait fed for two years and they had him patterned down to the minute. Great animal, but at the cost of a friendship, I don't know if that is worth it!
I agree with buckhunter1. (Who is no relation in case your wondering.)
With every big buck there are several other disappointed hunters who wish they had tagged it. I'm not much into rumors. The fact is the young man has a legal tag on a deer we all wish we were holding. Good for him. Also goodluck at state this year with your wrestling.
I hunted acorns this past weekend.. and I mean it literally! I hunt National Forest land without a farm around for miles... So find a specific buck is really hard... So early season I hunt the acrons, and this year there doenst seam to be many... The area surrounding my cabin is almost totally oaks with some pines mixed in, besides the cedar swawps, but this year they just arent producing... the area i am in is also a dry, acidy soil... but about a mile away an area that has a lower elevation and better soil had some HUGE OLD white oaks that were producing... (the oaks byt the cabin are mostly reds)... I sat on this white oak flat on saturday night and sunday morning... on saturday I had a spike with the smallest antlers ever come within 5 yards.... this deer was atleast 2 1/2 years old, but his one antler was only 3 inches and the other about 1 inch... we had 2 bad winters in a row, so maybe he just made it through winter and couldnt devote energy to antler growth... that or he injured himself..
Anyway, on Sunday morning there were 11 does all feeding around me at one time... in a few weeks if the acrons last hopefully some bucks will join them... but the area also gets hunted apparently since i found some treestands... so once too many guys hunt it the deer will aviod it in daylight... oh well... the rut will be here sooner than we know it...
I hope thes remarks aren't true, but would like to see how this all plays out. I dont think we have heard the last of this. It would be a total disrespect for this animal to be known as a scam.
And buckhunter1 if you know these kids so well and know they do everything by the book why dont you ask the kid in the back ground where he got all his neck collars and bands from geese, i can tell you that involves a bag of doritos.
I went upland and archery deer hunting this weekend. Definitely seeing less deer than before grouse season started. Travel routes have been disrupted. At least one buck that I have watched has gone nocturnal. Some bedding areas have also been disturbed. Gotta think this through for the next time I can go. I have to think this through.
What a monster! That buck blows away the thurty pointer and the rest of the Wisconsin bucks and Bestul's buck too!! Damn kids have all the luck.
I'm seeing the same bucks I scouted all summer. No surprises. I'm waiting for the corn to be cut to get the big bucks back into the woods.
Thats a knee-shaking,jawdroppin,body trembling buck. Makes me lose my breath and drop beads of sweat just looking at the pic. congrats!!!
Wow, that is a Giant. My hunting time is very limited right now due to parenting obligations and a wife in school, not to mention work, so I am hunting very close to home for convenience. Not my best strategy. Early i always focus on acorns or other mast (apples, persimmons). I know there are decent buck in the area year in and year out, so i'll hope this year one offers me a shot. I'm less than a mile from a spot where a gent killed a 135 and 160 buck in the past few years. That's giant for south Jersey.
What do you say to that but WOW!
THE WEATHER HERE IN NORTHEAST OHIO HAS BEEN DOWN RIGHT LOUSY. HIGH WINDS AND HEAVY RAIN SINCE THE BEGINNING OF BOW SEASON. I HAVE SET STANDS IN AREA WHERE A NICE BUCKS HANGS OUT SAW HIM MANY TIMES WHILE HUNTING GROUNDHOGS. ONLY ONE OTHER HUNTER IS IN THIS AREA, BUT SO FAR MR BIG HAS NOT SHOWN HIMSELF. THE OTHER HUNTER HAS A BAIT PILE SET UP . REALLY HARD TO HUNT STANDING CORNFIELD RIGHT NOW AS FARMERS START TO CUT CROP FIELDS MORE AND MORE DEER WILL BE EXPOSED. SO I USE BOTH METHODS HUNTING FOOD AREAS AND PLACES THAT I KNOW HOLD A FINE BUCK GOOD LUCK TO ALL
Wow what a deer! If I had it my way I would be in the woods every day scouting and prepareing. Work and other things prevent it. So I plant my food plots and hunt the locations that have produced in the past and hope.Other than trail cameras wich I use sparringly because I am afraid they will be stolen I use travel corridors and food plots. Wow what a buck!
early season hunting a bust so far for me after hanging trial cams all summer and getting lots of good pics. 1 buck in a main frame 8 showed himself on my cams during the day and after pulling my cams from the area before season i have not seen him in any of the 3 spots i had cams spread out over a mile. he showd himself a week ago on a cam at night... i thought early season could be the key to getting a view of him but now i am hopefully looking towards the rut.
I don’t know, I’ve heard some pretty questionable things about this deer I don’t know much about the guy who shot it but the guy in the background has pretty poor hunting ethics so it wouldn’t surprise me if bucknut is on to something.
just got a few questions for u nuckleheads! why the wardrobe changes in the pictures? why is the ground dry? it did rain all day where u shot the deer i know that for a fact!! if u dont believe me about the weather look at the weather report for stilwell, ks for september 21st the day that this buck was supposedly shot... didnt take a genius to put all this together or a member from csi.. i dont know but i think its all a little fishy
doesnt matter if there is controversy or not any deer this big should be looked at by the conservation department thats the only way rumors wont be started, if you shoot a deer this big i really recomend calling the conservation department your self just so there wont be any questions. does anyone know if this deer has been checked out by the conservarion department yet?
I live in the same area as all the involved parties and know some of the involved personally. I hunt relatively close to where this deer was taken and it was pouring down raining all of opening day, IMO this deer was definately taken before the season started. Not only has a friendship been lossed but the kid in the picture didnt have pictures of this deer untill after the gentleman who hunts on the "adjacent property" which is about a mile away trail cam was stolen off his property. if i had to guess i could and im sure you to could guess who took the camera. so for you who say that jealousy is the reason people question the ethical kill of this deer, I would say that jealousy is the reason that this deer was more then likely poached before season and on property they didnt have permission on. Not to mention the property that the deer was originally spotted on all summer long produced a 160's and 170's deer the past two seasons. This should def be investigated.
StilwellBuckNut has spotted the smoke and where there is smoke there is probably fire. For those who now the rest of the story ... please blog your insight. It is time more of us to step up and put an end to the out of season hunts, lease jumping, trespassing and poaching. The rumors have spread across the state like wildfire. Other than blind luck the story doesn't seem to fit the deer. Perhaps both young men should be questioned to the validity of a potentially record bow kill in Kansas.
I love to hunt a variety of food sources, but my favorite is near standing corn and alfalfa. With alfalfa it seems best if it was last cut a few weeks before the beggining of season. The deer seem to love the new growth. I also am not afraid to change food sources as the deer are often doing during this part of the fall.
Impressive! Congrtatulations!
Buckstruck, sounds like you're VERY close to the situation. Is that you in the background?
Another thing, its a disgrace that a friendship could be lost over a deer.
Great buck and congradulations. Not sure about baiting this buck for 2 years, but again congradulations
There is a lot of controversy surrounding this deer, I have talked to several people who think it was shot early. At first I didn’t really think much of it then it was pointed out to me that the kid’s boots are dry and so is the ground around his feet. The deer was shot over corn in the kid’s backyard just south of 159th and mission. I hunt very close and it stormed all day opening day so it doesn’t make much sense to me that his boots are dry. It’s also obvious the deer came out of velvet within a couple days of being shot. It is possible the deer came out of velvet that late but I can’t remember ever seeing a buck in velvet much after the first week of September in this area. I’m surprised the conservation department is not investigating this deer.
StilwellBuckNut it is a shame that you have to write these jealous comments on this forum. I was there and I personally saw the deer the night it was killed. You obviously know nothing about what you are posting. What a shame.
It really is a shame whenever someone shoots a monster buck it is always thought to be poached or shot before season I know both of these young men and know that they are true hunters and do everything by the book. I have no doubt in my mind that this buck was taken the right way. I wouldnt be surprised if these posts about it being shot illegaly are from the young man that was such a weisel to even loose a friendship over it are posting these rediculous comments haha it makes me laugh! Congrats Parker hell of a deer.
holy cow nice work...i gotta get outta school so i can hunt...my mom won't lemme skip cause of b-ball dang it
Ok- So for everyone yellin poacher! poacher! I believe that is incorrect maybe I am old fashioned but I stand by our constitution in saying everyone is innocent till proven guilty. If the buck is legit then have it investigated to have the nasayers proven wrong, why not nothing to hide from right? I don't know the circumstances folks but I will tell you I live maybe 5 miles from where this was takin and it was pooring opening night thats why I didn't go hunting (if thats the night it was takin). But awsome deer baited or not!! Huntin is huntin and all hunters should watch out for each other!! The animal rights folks don't fight within each other if we do you just make them stronger- GOOD HUNTIN TO ALL
Great deer and he got with the bow (the real way to hunt). Unfortunately, the circumstances the deer was taken are iffy. Even if it was legal I have a problem with excesive baiting (if they baited). Real hunters use a bow and don't bait. The best are the guys that have machines on a timer that spit food out all year then come hunting season they just sit in a blind with a high powered rifle and shoot one of the many (tame) deer that have come to rely on being feed.
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