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October 07, 2009

Discussion Topic: CWD Fears Could Lead To Deer-Urine Ban

By Dave Hurteau

If you are hoping to draw a big buck to your stand with a urine-based lure, you better do it fast, before your favorite doe-in-estrous or dominant-buck scent disappears from the local outdoor-store shelf.

Chronic Wasting Disease is carried by altered proteins, called prions, that are spread directly from deer to deer through saliva and other bodily fluids, as well as by food grown in soil contaminated with the feces and urine of infected deer. As deer and elk farms have been the hotbeds of infected deer, state officials have grown increasingly concerned that the commercial deer urine produced at such farm could be spreading the disease.

Saskatchewan has already banned urine-based lures and nine states are now considering a ban.

From the Allentown Morning Call:

[Pennsylvania Game Commission] president Gregory J. Isabella of Philadelphia, who represents the Southeast Region, said that he is an archery hunter who has  used deer urine in the past, but will stop using it immediately.

[State Wildlife Veterinarian Walt] Cottrell said he would recommend and support an immediate ban. . . .

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from seadog wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

I'm willing to do without deer urine if the threat of spreading CWD is real. I don't know enough about the science to know if this is a wise precaution or just overkill.

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from charlie elk wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

This is a wise pre caution since all commercial deer urine comes from deer farms. Deer farms have the highest CWD infection rates.
For years there has been a working theory CWD was introduced into WI from the use deer urine brought in from outside the state.

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from jjas wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

I could care less as I don't use it much anyway and there are plenty of synthetic products for those who do.

With deer pee running $10.00 per ounce (or more) I'm sure the guys in the industry will have an absolute pi$$ fit.

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from Elmer Fudd wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

deer hunting can go on without doe pee. Ban it if the science is good.

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from idahooutdoors wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

Can't they test it before distributing it???? If there is real cases of this causing deer to get CWD then by all means prevent it, but if this is another ban just because someone thinks maybe someday this may occur, then don't ban it just because.....people are ban crazy these days...and usually some sort of agenda behind it...maybe anti's that don't like deer farms and and want a back door way to put them out of business????

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from sgaredneck wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

I'm for clamping down on it if they can positively prove that could be a vector for the passage of CWD. Otherwise, Everything Idaho said +1.

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from Jeepdude1987 wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

I reckon it sounds like it could very well be possible. I'm not sure it is true. If it is scientifically feasible than I have no problem with it. I don't ever use it myself anyways.

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from jbird wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

I agree w/ seadog, CWD is a serious thing.

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from 86Ram wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

I use it at times but if banning it helps contain the spread of CWD then it's the responsible thing to do.

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from weaklandjr wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

Any ban should be based on science and not politics. If the science support that ban then I will also.

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from steve182 wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

Wouldn't bother me much. Save me some money.

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from turk wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

I think the farms that sell doe pee should have to go by guide lines such as any other products that are sold they should come up with a way to test thier products before it reaches the market if they cant come up with a solution yes,i say put a ban on it if its to keep the spread of CWD.I personally use deer pee but i would rather give it up than to hurt the deer population across north America.

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from dighunter wrote 2 years 17 weeks ago

Without being an expert in the business of deer urine distrubution, here is an idea. In Ohio(like many other states), it is illegal to haul firewood into and out of certain area to prevent/slow the spread of gypsy moths and the Emerald Ash borer. What if the same were true for deer pee. Buying locally would help prevent the spread of CWD into new areas. Just a thought, what do you guys think?

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from 86Ram wrote 2 years 17 weeks ago

There should be a set standard agreed upon and enforced by both local and other state agencies.
This should include:
Testing
Research
Innoculations (for treatable diseases)
Processing
and Shipping thru out the country.
All managed/farmed herds should be registered by location, dna, and owner and urine/blood samples should be submitted bi monthly to certified labs and dna should be on hand at those labs to ensure no one is trying to pull a fast one.

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from 86Ram wrote 2 years 17 weeks ago

Also a licensed vet or state agent should take the samples also to avoid any type of questionable activities

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from Walt Smith wrote 2 years 17 weeks ago

Ban it and eliminate the deer farms while your at it seeings as they're the cause of all this crap!

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from charlie elk wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

This is a wise pre caution since all commercial deer urine comes from deer farms. Deer farms have the highest CWD infection rates.
For years there has been a working theory CWD was introduced into WI from the use deer urine brought in from outside the state.

+5 Good Comment? | | Report
from seadog wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

I'm willing to do without deer urine if the threat of spreading CWD is real. I don't know enough about the science to know if this is a wise precaution or just overkill.

+3 Good Comment? | | Report
from idahooutdoors wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

Can't they test it before distributing it???? If there is real cases of this causing deer to get CWD then by all means prevent it, but if this is another ban just because someone thinks maybe someday this may occur, then don't ban it just because.....people are ban crazy these days...and usually some sort of agenda behind it...maybe anti's that don't like deer farms and and want a back door way to put them out of business????

+3 Good Comment? | | Report
from jbird wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

I agree w/ seadog, CWD is a serious thing.

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from weaklandjr wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

Any ban should be based on science and not politics. If the science support that ban then I will also.

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from turk wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

I think the farms that sell doe pee should have to go by guide lines such as any other products that are sold they should come up with a way to test thier products before it reaches the market if they cant come up with a solution yes,i say put a ban on it if its to keep the spread of CWD.I personally use deer pee but i would rather give it up than to hurt the deer population across north America.

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from dighunter wrote 2 years 17 weeks ago

Without being an expert in the business of deer urine distrubution, here is an idea. In Ohio(like many other states), it is illegal to haul firewood into and out of certain area to prevent/slow the spread of gypsy moths and the Emerald Ash borer. What if the same were true for deer pee. Buying locally would help prevent the spread of CWD into new areas. Just a thought, what do you guys think?

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from jjas wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

I could care less as I don't use it much anyway and there are plenty of synthetic products for those who do.

With deer pee running $10.00 per ounce (or more) I'm sure the guys in the industry will have an absolute pi$$ fit.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Elmer Fudd wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

deer hunting can go on without doe pee. Ban it if the science is good.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from sgaredneck wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

I'm for clamping down on it if they can positively prove that could be a vector for the passage of CWD. Otherwise, Everything Idaho said +1.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Jeepdude1987 wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

I reckon it sounds like it could very well be possible. I'm not sure it is true. If it is scientifically feasible than I have no problem with it. I don't ever use it myself anyways.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from 86Ram wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

I use it at times but if banning it helps contain the spread of CWD then it's the responsible thing to do.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from steve182 wrote 2 years 18 weeks ago

Wouldn't bother me much. Save me some money.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from 86Ram wrote 2 years 17 weeks ago

There should be a set standard agreed upon and enforced by both local and other state agencies.
This should include:
Testing
Research
Innoculations (for treatable diseases)
Processing
and Shipping thru out the country.
All managed/farmed herds should be registered by location, dna, and owner and urine/blood samples should be submitted bi monthly to certified labs and dna should be on hand at those labs to ensure no one is trying to pull a fast one.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from 86Ram wrote 2 years 17 weeks ago

Also a licensed vet or state agent should take the samples also to avoid any type of questionable activities

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Walt Smith wrote 2 years 17 weeks ago

Ban it and eliminate the deer farms while your at it seeings as they're the cause of all this crap!

+1 Good Comment? | | Report

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