


October 26, 2009
Discussion Topic: UNC-Chapel Hill Shoots Down Old-Well Rifle Engraving
From the News & Observer:
The Old Well, a campus landmark and symbol of UNC-Chapel Hill, appears on neckties, jewelry and other products, but a Colorado company's plans to put it on the stock of a rifle has raised concerns.
Historical Armory, a small company based in Fort Collins, Colo., is advertising a "Historic Orange County" special edition of a .22-caliber rifle. The stock is engraved with images, including the state flag, the American flag, the Confederate flag, a deer, a cannon and the Old Well.
Carrboro Mayor Mark Chilton, a 1993 UNC-CH graduate, said placing a university symbol on a gun is not appropriate, especially in light of cases of violence on or near college campuses around the country. Chilton was living in Chapel Hill when law student Wendell Williamson shot and killed two people and injured two others in 1995.
"It sends the wrong message to the public to see university symbols used in that way," said Chilton. . . .
What do you say?
Comments (13)
I wonder if the fellow objects to having UNC bumper stickers, window decals, and license plate frames, given the number of UNC students that have been killed in automobile crashes over the years?
mike said it. this gun sounds like a great collectors piece and stopping it from being made is not going to stop violence.
What message is this guy talking about? His argument makes no sense; but, then again, I suppose I never expected it to make much sense anyways.
How about the mayor recognizing all the law-abiding, nonviolent gun-owners in his town? The more people acknowledging that guns aren't merely tools of violence, the less people will see them as such.
Probably nothing to do with this topic, but Robert Ruark graduated from UNC-Chapel Hill and I believe they have some of his papers in their archives. Maybe Historical Armory should come out with an "Old Man And The Boy" shotgun. Might sell better than the current model.
What about rappers and thugs on the streats wearing Tar Heel blue. I think that sends a worse message.
I'm with Mike Diehl on this one. Repeal/recall all UNC bumper stickers, and also, Mayor Mark Chilton probably should get a reality check, as I suspect checks from his alumni might start to slow, in light of that ridiculous position.
1.) Mayor Chilton is the mayor of Carrboro. I don't know why on earth he was quoted. On this issue he has as much insight and authority as any other Chapel Hill grad.
2.) The issue here isn't appropriateness, it's money. The well is a trademarked image, and unless the university's getting its cut, this company ain't using it.
3.) The bumperstick point is a very good one given that Mohamed Tehari-Azar (may have butchered spelling) tried and failed very hard at killing a bunch of UNC students using a car a few years ago.
Overall this is a case of someone playing up Chapel Hill's reputation by quoting Chilton high in the article when his comments have no business there.
Just got to LOVE a pol. who opens his/her mouth. They'll stick a foot in it almost EVERYTIME !
Big O - That's the point. He hasn't. He is mayor in Carrboro. For the unitiated, that's the single most liberal town in North Carolina. Chapel Hill serves as a sink for liberals from other parts of the state, and those who find it too conservative mosey over to Carrboro. That said, while the town is insanely liberal, it tends to be insanely liberal in a live-and-let-live way, which is much nicer, and more comfortable for those who don't share the values of the town fathers than other liberal places i've seen.
uninitiated, even. And mentally add a comma after fathers, if you would, in my above post.
screw Chapel Hill someone should make a muzzle loader or Rifles with Appalachain States Mountaineers Yosef head or the big A on the stock. Those would be awsome. ASU
Carrboro is a very small town alongside Chapel Hill(I used to live in nearby Durham). The Old Well belongs to the citizens of North Carolina and if someone wants that image on a gunstock then fine with me. The liberal bedwetters at UNC are unhappy. Who cares. They're always unhappy, so what's new? I noticed that, as usual, the whiners were quoted but not any of the supporters among Carolina graduates.
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Probably nothing to do with this topic, but Robert Ruark graduated from UNC-Chapel Hill and I believe they have some of his papers in their archives. Maybe Historical Armory should come out with an "Old Man And The Boy" shotgun. Might sell better than the current model.
I wonder if the fellow objects to having UNC bumper stickers, window decals, and license plate frames, given the number of UNC students that have been killed in automobile crashes over the years?
What about rappers and thugs on the streats wearing Tar Heel blue. I think that sends a worse message.
What message is this guy talking about? His argument makes no sense; but, then again, I suppose I never expected it to make much sense anyways.
mike said it. this gun sounds like a great collectors piece and stopping it from being made is not going to stop violence.
How about the mayor recognizing all the law-abiding, nonviolent gun-owners in his town? The more people acknowledging that guns aren't merely tools of violence, the less people will see them as such.
I'm with Mike Diehl on this one. Repeal/recall all UNC bumper stickers, and also, Mayor Mark Chilton probably should get a reality check, as I suspect checks from his alumni might start to slow, in light of that ridiculous position.
Just got to LOVE a pol. who opens his/her mouth. They'll stick a foot in it almost EVERYTIME !
1.) Mayor Chilton is the mayor of Carrboro. I don't know why on earth he was quoted. On this issue he has as much insight and authority as any other Chapel Hill grad.
2.) The issue here isn't appropriateness, it's money. The well is a trademarked image, and unless the university's getting its cut, this company ain't using it.
3.) The bumperstick point is a very good one given that Mohamed Tehari-Azar (may have butchered spelling) tried and failed very hard at killing a bunch of UNC students using a car a few years ago.
Overall this is a case of someone playing up Chapel Hill's reputation by quoting Chilton high in the article when his comments have no business there.
Big O - That's the point. He hasn't. He is mayor in Carrboro. For the unitiated, that's the single most liberal town in North Carolina. Chapel Hill serves as a sink for liberals from other parts of the state, and those who find it too conservative mosey over to Carrboro. That said, while the town is insanely liberal, it tends to be insanely liberal in a live-and-let-live way, which is much nicer, and more comfortable for those who don't share the values of the town fathers than other liberal places i've seen.
uninitiated, even. And mentally add a comma after fathers, if you would, in my above post.
Carrboro is a very small town alongside Chapel Hill(I used to live in nearby Durham). The Old Well belongs to the citizens of North Carolina and if someone wants that image on a gunstock then fine with me. The liberal bedwetters at UNC are unhappy. Who cares. They're always unhappy, so what's new? I noticed that, as usual, the whiners were quoted but not any of the supporters among Carolina graduates.
screw Chapel Hill someone should make a muzzle loader or Rifles with Appalachain States Mountaineers Yosef head or the big A on the stock. Those would be awsome. ASU
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