


October 22, 2009
Gallup Poll: Will Obama Ban Try To Ban The Sale of Handguns?
By Dave Hurteau
Quick, guess. Don’t skim down. How many Americans polled said yes? How many American gun owners?
Okay, here are the results, from gallup.com:
A new Gallup poll may explain recent reports of increased gun and ammunition sales in the U.S. Majorities of those who personally own a gun (55%) and of those with a gun in the household (53%), as well as 41% of all Americans, believe that President Obama "will attempt to ban the sale of guns in the United States while he is president."

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Banning guns of any kind would be a hard thing to pull off for the libs. Putting controls and taxes on ammunition however, is MUCH easier for them to to. We need to stay vigilant on this.
It's not Obama I'm so worried about. It's the cast of characters associated with him that pull his strings.
When he first entered office I suspected he might try to tax or ban something gun related. I believe this is less likely now as the democrats can't even get together on their own legislation. I also believe there is less political support for the democratic agenda as a whole than there was in late 2008 and early 2009. Not that the republican platform has any more support. It seem much of the country is just anti federal government until new and good ideas appear from our elected officials. With the group of rubes in DC right now we may have a long wait.
I figure just over half of Americans would think he's gonna try to ban gun or ammo sales. I think he might. In my view the only things stopping him are the moderate Dems and the fact that his calendar/agenda is otherwise already full.
The other thing is Obama is canny enough to recognize that legislative efforts at the federal level would cost the Dems in Congress. But I am confident that he'd stack the judicial deck and have Eric Holder take positions before the USSJC to quietly erode 2nd Amendment Civil Liberty.
The only upside I see is that a year ago I thought he'd have 8 years as the Chief Executive. I'm starting to think there's a pretty good chance that the next election will be more of a fight than the Dems would like. Here's hoping.
It's much easier to tax ammo, require fingerprints to purchase ammo, limit amounts of ammo that can be purchased, ban lead (knowing lead substitutes are expensive), ban new target ranges, go after existing gun ranges for lead contamination in the soil and noise, ban firearms shooting and/or hunting on small parcels of land, and on and on and on.....and never even touch the 2a.
It seems that many people are suffering from premature ej***lation syndrome with this presidency. The guy is President for a year and already people are jettisoning the idea that he might try to ban or restrict firearms in some onerous fashion. The guy has three years left and he, and his Democrat majority, seem to have the most ambitious party agenda in a generation. Its right that people don't trust him.
True, we have Heller to protect us to a certain degree. However, in order to win a majority in that case, Scalia had to write as vague an opinion as possible and leave for tomorrow other critical issues in firearms ownership. So don't bet on Heller doing all the heavy-lifting.
I'd look for an end-run around Congress and the Courts with administrative/regulatory sanctions on firearms owners, retailers, and manufacturers including allowing lawsuits against manufacturers and retailers; stepped up enforcement of regulations and law already on the books (this one has already come to fruition); and creation of new regulations to "help" the regulatory bodies enforce the laws already on the books.
Pay attention to what the BHO Admin is doing now - shifting firearms & health research to the NIH from the CDC because laws were passed that stripped funding for firearms research from the CDC. The AMA, CDC, and NIH are notably anti-gun which correlates with their "findings" that having a firearm in your home makes life more dangerous for you. Its reasonable expect an assault on the Second Amendment in the next three years.
I guessed the total about right (I guessed 40%) but I was wrong on gun owners (I guessed 80%). I must be overestimating our fear. I agree with Mike D's comment that the Dems won't risk loses in the next elections by taking on gun control on a Federal level. Obama is no idiot and the Dems in Congress can't be that stupid. It would virtually guarantee that Obama would lose the White House & the Dems would lose their advantage in Congress. Judicial appointments is where we should be worried. Local governments and some states will violate the Second Amendment if the courts let them. Bluecollarkid makes a good point too. Back door administrative sanctions can sometimes do an end run around the Constitution--especially if the courts won't uphold it.
jjas hit the nail on the head. The greatest threat to gun owners is the backdoor legislation that makes it more difficult to own a gun.
I did not vote for Obama, and if it wasn't for idiots who would have! He keeps it up we will have governmental control similar to the good old U.S.S.R.
Buy the way Bloomberg might be worse, and have the money to be just as powerful.
I think his administration will just try to suck our rights away from us slowly so we won't realize it until there is no place to hunt and nothing to load up our guns with.
Armed America awaits his pleasure.
I must of offended a few Obama supporters.
It is happening slowly on the side. He knows he can not come out directly with any gun banning legislation, but we see can see the future: lead bans, increasing protected habitats,higher licensing costs and fees, and the systematic brainwashing of our children.
There will be no attempt to ban hand guns. The Supreme Court just ruled such laws unconstitutional in the DC gun case. It applied the due process clause of the 14th amendment to the 2nd amendment which took away a state (or DC's) ability to ban firearms. The due process clause of the 5th amendment already enforeces it in federal law and so no hand gun ban will ever be written in to law by the Democrat congress or Obama. It would simply get struck down by the court as they apply precedent.
Let me tell you how it happens in Illinois, where Obama cut his political teeth. You come up with new fees and keep raising the ones you have. You require more government regulation, licensing, paperwork, approval, all of which makes it more difficult and frustrating to enjoy what you used to. Programs you don't like, you cut funding. The state passes laws much stricter than federal laws, and uses them as money makers, hitting people minding their own business with fines.
This is how they will slowly take away our guns, Newsday.com :
Officers found 50 rounds of .44-caliber Remington hollow-point bullets, which are illegal in many states and are called "cop killer" bullets because they can pierce bullet-resistant armor, said Paul Loriquet, spokesman for the Essex County prosecutor's office.
They will attach a knee-jerk reaction regulations to stupid things people do, like the quote above from a story about the arrest of a N.J. security employee at Newark airport.
Apparently every bullet they want to be is a "cop killer" nowadays.
Well, here would be a good spot to say "When they pry it from my cold, dead hand" but with Cap and Trade (tax) they may try to freeze us out!
bwbardot you misunderstand the Heller case (a.k.a. the DC gun ban case). The SCOTUS did not invoke the 14th Amendment Due Process clause - the 5-4 majority simply ruled that, under the 2nd Amendment, the DC Gov., being part of a federal territory, cannot ban possession (or legislate ownership laws so onerous so as to render the possessed firearm inoperable and unusable)of a firearm in the home for protection. This is why the court is currently docketing two cases - one from the 2nd circuit and the other from the 5th (or 7th? - whichever one Easterbrook sits on) - that bring the issue of whether the 14th Amendment incorporation doctrine includes the 2nd Amendment so as to apply it to the States (DC is not a state). As for Due Process, that's still a completely different issue and will likely be litigated in the future.
They will try to make gun ownership very costly and difficult. There are sweeping changes quietly being drawn up. When they get the chance, they will push any gun restriction that they can through. Right now they being quiet about it, so as not to draw any opposition. I'm quite sure they're planning a sneak attack.
Admiral Yamamoto said," To invade America would be suicide because there is a rifle behind every blade of grass. The same holds true for a goverment to try and disarm America from within.
I get the impression that a lot of you guys WANT Obama to ban handguns just so you can have an excuse!
Obama is not going to do anything to your pistols because even if he wanted to, he can't. All this terror at the democrats is based on the irrational ravings of demagogery. The Democrats always stumble over thier own feet trying to make everybody happy, but they are the "Big Tent" party so what you wind up with is like the proverbial ants pulling on the sugar cube in all directions (so their prize goes nowhere). The thing that worries me about the Dims these days is the old adage "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups".
Personal firearms are such a "trigger" issue that Obama (who actually is a smart person) ain't going near it.
Besides He may actually like handguns! has anybody ever thought to invite him to a range for a pleasurable afternoon of familiarization with a piece or two? I hear lots of people screaming about what the fear he might do but I don't hear anything ever of anybody attempting to win hearts and minds here. Why not try to convince him of the logic of our position and the goodness of our charicter and cause instead?
We need to stand up for ourselves. I am concerned about the rights of my children, and if we do not do something soon, we are all in trouble. It is time Americans start becoming informed of who they are electing to both the executive and legislative branches. Stop voting on emotion. It is time that officials come back down to reality and realize they work for us. I don't want their help. I want them to leave me alone. Stop spending my children's money and stop acting like they rule us. They work for us, and we as Americans need to not only vote for those that have our same beliefs, but we need to run for office and try to change the way things are going. We need to start a grass roots movement at the local level. Take a stand, go to tea parties, contact our representatives, and get involved. Too many of us expect someone else to take care of the propblem. It is easier to complain than fix the problem. Stop complaining and start doing!
I tend to think that Obama would like to ban handguns but he has enough political sense to know that to try and do this would destroy his ability to get anything else done - he may try to whittle away gun owner rights at the margins with ammo or gun regulations that inflate the cost so much that they act as bans, if he gets elected to a second term, he might also try something more direct at the end of his second term.
Alot people call gun owners paranoid about their Obama fears - and there is some truth to that - but I don't see any harm in being a little paranoid - it's an effective motivator for protecting our rights.
I think it was the CEO of Intel who once said, "it's only the paranoid who survive"
There isn't enough support, even from the left, for him to try. The political fallout would derail other issues more central to the Dem's agenda. As an example, look at the Red State Dem's blocking a public option health care. The centrists in the party know that they would lose seats and congressional control if they even raised the issue, particularly with the '10 midterms coming up. With the Republican Party leaning so far on the hard-core fringe, the Dems know that they can't threaten gun rights if they want to pick up the moderate Republicans and Independents that the GOP has abandoned.
Duh.
Hey, When I try to post a comment, what's with the advertising across the 'Post a Comment' screen. I can't even see what I type. C'mon F$S ($ sign intentional) have a little class and be discreet about how you get your money.
I agree that it would be almost impossible to enforce, yet I believe that the Obama administration will try to ban handguns anywho.
bbowbardot wrote,
there will be no attempt to ban hand hand guns, DUH.,
what world do you live in?
there has been and always will be, attempt to ban guns as long as the demo,s are in power.
Don
I was a reg. democrat for many years so i know how they think..and its very sad.
Don it is obvious that you don't know how the Dims think. The whole handicap of the Dims is the "big Tent" that has room for everybody. So you wind up with 26 positions on anything from 13 mouths moving. Merely observing the whole health care debacle, illustrates dimocratic lack of unity. Repukelicans have always been better at keeping a "party line" and making members toe it. The Dims other problem is that Big tents can hold more riff-raff, so one winds up with a certain percentage of politicians trying to game the system. Not so with the Republicans, where the entire party is focussed like a laser on gaming the system. But the Repukelicans are not for everybody, only for the few, whatever the propaganda may say to the contrary. Handsome is as handsome does and when I compare the record of Repukelicans to that of Dimocrats, I see that again and again the Repukelicans line up on the side of corporate interests and that pernicious 1% of the population that has claimed so large a share of our national wealth to the empoverishment of so very many. As I look at what each party has pushed for agenda, I see the Repukelicans giving corporations access to public resources and not wanting to tax the profits on wealth extracted from public lands. I see the Dims supporting voting rights and repukes attempting to block citizens from voting. I hear Dims talking about Public Option healthcare and Republicans talking about Personal Mandates. I hear Repukelicans crying about how the Dims will take their guns, but when the mass confiscation of firearms happened after Katerina, It was the Repukelicans who gave the order, they were in power then not the Dims. Such Hyppocracy. If you guys don't want to remember RECENT history because it contradicts your petty prejudice then you just aren't rational. The Dims wouln't take yer guns, The Repukes already did take guns, but they'd rather you forgot that inconvenient fact when they are ranting about Obama. Get Real, Open your eyes, Do the math.
Oh, I forget, they were taking BLACK PEOPLES guns. Does that make it different? How about that, Chairman Steele?
Maybe we should hang one prominent Democrat and one prominent Republican every day until they get the message that the American people are tired of "business as usual"?
If you are not sick of "business as usual" in the nation's capitol, then you might consider removing your head from the dark, moist, stinky location it currently calls home....and get a grip.
WA Mtnhunter's comment is exactly what needs to happen I don't care which side these politicians are on its the same crap year in and year out-we need to get rid of em all. As far as Barack Husein I wouldn't put it past him and his cronies just look at the A.G. and his stance on MY 2nd Amendment.
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Banning guns of any kind would be a hard thing to pull off for the libs. Putting controls and taxes on ammunition however, is MUCH easier for them to to. We need to stay vigilant on this.
It's not Obama I'm so worried about. It's the cast of characters associated with him that pull his strings.
When he first entered office I suspected he might try to tax or ban something gun related. I believe this is less likely now as the democrats can't even get together on their own legislation. I also believe there is less political support for the democratic agenda as a whole than there was in late 2008 and early 2009. Not that the republican platform has any more support. It seem much of the country is just anti federal government until new and good ideas appear from our elected officials. With the group of rubes in DC right now we may have a long wait.
It seems that many people are suffering from premature ej***lation syndrome with this presidency. The guy is President for a year and already people are jettisoning the idea that he might try to ban or restrict firearms in some onerous fashion. The guy has three years left and he, and his Democrat majority, seem to have the most ambitious party agenda in a generation. Its right that people don't trust him.
True, we have Heller to protect us to a certain degree. However, in order to win a majority in that case, Scalia had to write as vague an opinion as possible and leave for tomorrow other critical issues in firearms ownership. So don't bet on Heller doing all the heavy-lifting.
I'd look for an end-run around Congress and the Courts with administrative/regulatory sanctions on firearms owners, retailers, and manufacturers including allowing lawsuits against manufacturers and retailers; stepped up enforcement of regulations and law already on the books (this one has already come to fruition); and creation of new regulations to "help" the regulatory bodies enforce the laws already on the books.
Pay attention to what the BHO Admin is doing now - shifting firearms & health research to the NIH from the CDC because laws were passed that stripped funding for firearms research from the CDC. The AMA, CDC, and NIH are notably anti-gun which correlates with their "findings" that having a firearm in your home makes life more dangerous for you. Its reasonable expect an assault on the Second Amendment in the next three years.
The other thing is Obama is canny enough to recognize that legislative efforts at the federal level would cost the Dems in Congress. But I am confident that he'd stack the judicial deck and have Eric Holder take positions before the USSJC to quietly erode 2nd Amendment Civil Liberty.
It's much easier to tax ammo, require fingerprints to purchase ammo, limit amounts of ammo that can be purchased, ban lead (knowing lead substitutes are expensive), ban new target ranges, go after existing gun ranges for lead contamination in the soil and noise, ban firearms shooting and/or hunting on small parcels of land, and on and on and on.....and never even touch the 2a.
Admiral Yamamoto said," To invade America would be suicide because there is a rifle behind every blade of grass. The same holds true for a goverment to try and disarm America from within.
I figure just over half of Americans would think he's gonna try to ban gun or ammo sales. I think he might. In my view the only things stopping him are the moderate Dems and the fact that his calendar/agenda is otherwise already full.
jjas hit the nail on the head. The greatest threat to gun owners is the backdoor legislation that makes it more difficult to own a gun.
Buy the way Bloomberg might be worse, and have the money to be just as powerful.
Let me tell you how it happens in Illinois, where Obama cut his political teeth. You come up with new fees and keep raising the ones you have. You require more government regulation, licensing, paperwork, approval, all of which makes it more difficult and frustrating to enjoy what you used to. Programs you don't like, you cut funding. The state passes laws much stricter than federal laws, and uses them as money makers, hitting people minding their own business with fines.
There isn't enough support, even from the left, for him to try. The political fallout would derail other issues more central to the Dem's agenda. As an example, look at the Red State Dem's blocking a public option health care. The centrists in the party know that they would lose seats and congressional control if they even raised the issue, particularly with the '10 midterms coming up. With the Republican Party leaning so far on the hard-core fringe, the Dems know that they can't threaten gun rights if they want to pick up the moderate Republicans and Independents that the GOP has abandoned.
The only upside I see is that a year ago I thought he'd have 8 years as the Chief Executive. I'm starting to think there's a pretty good chance that the next election will be more of a fight than the Dems would like. Here's hoping.
I guessed the total about right (I guessed 40%) but I was wrong on gun owners (I guessed 80%). I must be overestimating our fear. I agree with Mike D's comment that the Dems won't risk loses in the next elections by taking on gun control on a Federal level. Obama is no idiot and the Dems in Congress can't be that stupid. It would virtually guarantee that Obama would lose the White House & the Dems would lose their advantage in Congress. Judicial appointments is where we should be worried. Local governments and some states will violate the Second Amendment if the courts let them. Bluecollarkid makes a good point too. Back door administrative sanctions can sometimes do an end run around the Constitution--especially if the courts won't uphold it.
I think his administration will just try to suck our rights away from us slowly so we won't realize it until there is no place to hunt and nothing to load up our guns with.
I must of offended a few Obama supporters.
There will be no attempt to ban hand guns. The Supreme Court just ruled such laws unconstitutional in the DC gun case. It applied the due process clause of the 14th amendment to the 2nd amendment which took away a state (or DC's) ability to ban firearms. The due process clause of the 5th amendment already enforeces it in federal law and so no hand gun ban will ever be written in to law by the Democrat congress or Obama. It would simply get struck down by the court as they apply precedent.
Apparently every bullet they want to be is a "cop killer" nowadays.
Well, here would be a good spot to say "When they pry it from my cold, dead hand" but with Cap and Trade (tax) they may try to freeze us out!
We need to stand up for ourselves. I am concerned about the rights of my children, and if we do not do something soon, we are all in trouble. It is time Americans start becoming informed of who they are electing to both the executive and legislative branches. Stop voting on emotion. It is time that officials come back down to reality and realize they work for us. I don't want their help. I want them to leave me alone. Stop spending my children's money and stop acting like they rule us. They work for us, and we as Americans need to not only vote for those that have our same beliefs, but we need to run for office and try to change the way things are going. We need to start a grass roots movement at the local level. Take a stand, go to tea parties, contact our representatives, and get involved. Too many of us expect someone else to take care of the propblem. It is easier to complain than fix the problem. Stop complaining and start doing!
Duh.
I agree that it would be almost impossible to enforce, yet I believe that the Obama administration will try to ban handguns anywho.
Armed America awaits his pleasure.
It is happening slowly on the side. He knows he can not come out directly with any gun banning legislation, but we see can see the future: lead bans, increasing protected habitats,higher licensing costs and fees, and the systematic brainwashing of our children.
This is how they will slowly take away our guns, Newsday.com :
Officers found 50 rounds of .44-caliber Remington hollow-point bullets, which are illegal in many states and are called "cop killer" bullets because they can pierce bullet-resistant armor, said Paul Loriquet, spokesman for the Essex County prosecutor's office.
They will attach a knee-jerk reaction regulations to stupid things people do, like the quote above from a story about the arrest of a N.J. security employee at Newark airport.
bwbardot you misunderstand the Heller case (a.k.a. the DC gun ban case). The SCOTUS did not invoke the 14th Amendment Due Process clause - the 5-4 majority simply ruled that, under the 2nd Amendment, the DC Gov., being part of a federal territory, cannot ban possession (or legislate ownership laws so onerous so as to render the possessed firearm inoperable and unusable)of a firearm in the home for protection. This is why the court is currently docketing two cases - one from the 2nd circuit and the other from the 5th (or 7th? - whichever one Easterbrook sits on) - that bring the issue of whether the 14th Amendment incorporation doctrine includes the 2nd Amendment so as to apply it to the States (DC is not a state). As for Due Process, that's still a completely different issue and will likely be litigated in the future.
They will try to make gun ownership very costly and difficult. There are sweeping changes quietly being drawn up. When they get the chance, they will push any gun restriction that they can through. Right now they being quiet about it, so as not to draw any opposition. I'm quite sure they're planning a sneak attack.
I tend to think that Obama would like to ban handguns but he has enough political sense to know that to try and do this would destroy his ability to get anything else done - he may try to whittle away gun owner rights at the margins with ammo or gun regulations that inflate the cost so much that they act as bans, if he gets elected to a second term, he might also try something more direct at the end of his second term.
Alot people call gun owners paranoid about their Obama fears - and there is some truth to that - but I don't see any harm in being a little paranoid - it's an effective motivator for protecting our rights.
I think it was the CEO of Intel who once said, "it's only the paranoid who survive"
Hey, When I try to post a comment, what's with the advertising across the 'Post a Comment' screen. I can't even see what I type. C'mon F$S ($ sign intentional) have a little class and be discreet about how you get your money.
Don it is obvious that you don't know how the Dims think. The whole handicap of the Dims is the "big Tent" that has room for everybody. So you wind up with 26 positions on anything from 13 mouths moving. Merely observing the whole health care debacle, illustrates dimocratic lack of unity. Repukelicans have always been better at keeping a "party line" and making members toe it. The Dims other problem is that Big tents can hold more riff-raff, so one winds up with a certain percentage of politicians trying to game the system. Not so with the Republicans, where the entire party is focussed like a laser on gaming the system. But the Repukelicans are not for everybody, only for the few, whatever the propaganda may say to the contrary. Handsome is as handsome does and when I compare the record of Repukelicans to that of Dimocrats, I see that again and again the Repukelicans line up on the side of corporate interests and that pernicious 1% of the population that has claimed so large a share of our national wealth to the empoverishment of so very many. As I look at what each party has pushed for agenda, I see the Repukelicans giving corporations access to public resources and not wanting to tax the profits on wealth extracted from public lands. I see the Dims supporting voting rights and repukes attempting to block citizens from voting. I hear Dims talking about Public Option healthcare and Republicans talking about Personal Mandates. I hear Repukelicans crying about how the Dims will take their guns, but when the mass confiscation of firearms happened after Katerina, It was the Repukelicans who gave the order, they were in power then not the Dims. Such Hyppocracy. If you guys don't want to remember RECENT history because it contradicts your petty prejudice then you just aren't rational. The Dims wouln't take yer guns, The Repukes already did take guns, but they'd rather you forgot that inconvenient fact when they are ranting about Obama. Get Real, Open your eyes, Do the math.
Oh, I forget, they were taking BLACK PEOPLES guns. Does that make it different? How about that, Chairman Steele?
Maybe we should hang one prominent Democrat and one prominent Republican every day until they get the message that the American people are tired of "business as usual"?
If you are not sick of "business as usual" in the nation's capitol, then you might consider removing your head from the dark, moist, stinky location it currently calls home....and get a grip.
I did not vote for Obama, and if it wasn't for idiots who would have! He keeps it up we will have governmental control similar to the good old U.S.S.R.
I get the impression that a lot of you guys WANT Obama to ban handguns just so you can have an excuse!
Obama is not going to do anything to your pistols because even if he wanted to, he can't. All this terror at the democrats is based on the irrational ravings of demagogery. The Democrats always stumble over thier own feet trying to make everybody happy, but they are the "Big Tent" party so what you wind up with is like the proverbial ants pulling on the sugar cube in all directions (so their prize goes nowhere). The thing that worries me about the Dims these days is the old adage "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups".
Personal firearms are such a "trigger" issue that Obama (who actually is a smart person) ain't going near it.
Besides He may actually like handguns! has anybody ever thought to invite him to a range for a pleasurable afternoon of familiarization with a piece or two? I hear lots of people screaming about what the fear he might do but I don't hear anything ever of anybody attempting to win hearts and minds here. Why not try to convince him of the logic of our position and the goodness of our charicter and cause instead?
bbowbardot wrote,
there will be no attempt to ban hand hand guns, DUH.,
what world do you live in?
there has been and always will be, attempt to ban guns as long as the demo,s are in power.
Don
I was a reg. democrat for many years so i know how they think..and its very sad.
WA Mtnhunter's comment is exactly what needs to happen I don't care which side these politicians are on its the same crap year in and year out-we need to get rid of em all. As far as Barack Husein I wouldn't put it past him and his cronies just look at the A.G. and his stance on MY 2nd Amendment.
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