


October 14, 2009
Montana Pheasant Hunters Bags Charging Grizzly
From the Choteau Acantha:
[O]fficials on Tuesday said that a pheasant hunter from Alaska shot and killed a sow grizzly in dense brush east of U.S. Highway 89 and about 8 miles north of Choteau on Monday. . . .
[Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks game warden Rod] Duty said the hunter was probably 20 feet from the bear when he saw her. He said the hunter told him she was on her feet and took two big lunges toward him. He fired three times at her with a 20-gauge semi-automatic shotgun, Duty said. The third shot, including the wad, hit the bear in the forehead and brought her down, fatally wounded. . . .
Duty said on Tuesday that the case appears to be a self-defense shooting.
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Did somebody forget to tell these hunters grizzlies were in the area? Why would you start plunging into deep brush?
dang kill a grizzly with a 20 gauge now that's manly.
I have to agree with you, Derrit....Good thing they had that thing loaded up, and it was a semi auto...
Good question Elmer Fudd!
"She had been radio-collared last spring as part of a population study and was known to range up and down Deep Creek and Willow Creek primarily. He said biologists did not know she was in the Eldorado Grove."
Seems to me, the biologists should have known what hunting season was in, and checked where the family of bears were located with the radio-collar, and prevented this situation altogether. The sow was doing what mothers do ... protect their off-spring.
Lack of communication from the biologists,and being unprepared as the pheasant hunters were,contributed to the demise of this family of bears.
Fatally hit a charging griz in the head at 20 ft? That's some pretty good shooting considering the pressure... this guy must have been practicing with F&S's online rifle game! ha!
2Poppa, do we really WANT the biologists that active in preventing run-ins between nature and hunters? It may sound good in the context of a sow and two cubs, but the precedent that would set opens the door for hunting closures to protect all the fuzzy forest creatures.
Death is part of the wild, and I, for one, am glad it was the bear and not the hunter.
I'm with dneaster3, we can't go intervening with nature to make sure everyone is safe. If you choose to hunt in grizzly country then you should be aware and be careful, or at least accept the possibility of danger.
On that note I don't find it necessary to be living in fear of bears when in bear country. There are people that go sheep hunting with a .338 just in case of bears. I think it's silly. Some will say that these pheasant hunters should have been armed and ready for bears. Sorry, but no one wants to carry around an 8-10 pound rifle when bird hunting.
I don't buy into any of that stuff. I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do, knowing that bears are around, knowing how to act around one, and knowing that bear attacks are quite rare. Most bear attacks are caused by the human doing something stupid. Bears aren't out for human blood (well OK, sometimes black bears are).
Reading this website and the media in general makes attacks/incidents look a lot more frequent than they are. No one reports on the zillions of hunters that go out every day and don't get attacked, or even see a bear at all, or see a bear and everything goes swimmingly, even if it was a close encounter.
That guy is lucky. Maybe since he is from Alaska he has been around bears before. I'm a little surprise the bear didn't hear them coming and take off. Usually when bird hunting your talking to the dog a bunch or have a bell on the dog.
Thats enough to make a man wet his britches and cry for his momma when a mad bear is after you
Damn, thank God cool heads prevailed. That 20ga. couldn't have bigger than #6 shot maybe #4. One of them pellets must havbe got through the eye into the brain.
gotta say dropping a charging grizz with a 20ga is lucky on a good day. wonder how heavy their underwear was after the bear dropped.
Thats pretty crazy. its impressive that he took an offensive approach instead of running away. and with a 20 gauge. Wow.
Elmer is right-on. In this season and that location, it's only prudent to avoid such areas. It's crazy that our behavior changes in a single day when a season opens: the day before opening day, no one would have been there without making lots of noise and (ideally) bear spray at the ready. Opening day hits and we're all quiet and oblivious. Speaking of bear spray, why no mention of it anywhere here? It's been proven to be more effective and non-lethal than firearms, yet totally excluded from the story. FWP needs to reiterate their position on bear spray at every opportunity like this.
most of the bears that attack look to me like there are only 20 to 30 feet away and are comming after some body that dont even know the bear was there,,looks like the bears want to attack all the time, they sure dont run and hide like any thing else would,so the hunter had evry right to shoot it,
they could run and hide when they aint seen but they dont
a 20 ga has alot of knock down power at 20 feet isnt much of a pattern yet
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2Poppa, do we really WANT the biologists that active in preventing run-ins between nature and hunters? It may sound good in the context of a sow and two cubs, but the precedent that would set opens the door for hunting closures to protect all the fuzzy forest creatures.
Death is part of the wild, and I, for one, am glad it was the bear and not the hunter.
Did somebody forget to tell these hunters grizzlies were in the area? Why would you start plunging into deep brush?
dang kill a grizzly with a 20 gauge now that's manly.
Good question Elmer Fudd!
"She had been radio-collared last spring as part of a population study and was known to range up and down Deep Creek and Willow Creek primarily. He said biologists did not know she was in the Eldorado Grove."
Seems to me, the biologists should have known what hunting season was in, and checked where the family of bears were located with the radio-collar, and prevented this situation altogether. The sow was doing what mothers do ... protect their off-spring.
Lack of communication from the biologists,and being unprepared as the pheasant hunters were,contributed to the demise of this family of bears.
That guy is lucky. Maybe since he is from Alaska he has been around bears before. I'm a little surprise the bear didn't hear them coming and take off. Usually when bird hunting your talking to the dog a bunch or have a bell on the dog.
Elmer is right-on. In this season and that location, it's only prudent to avoid such areas. It's crazy that our behavior changes in a single day when a season opens: the day before opening day, no one would have been there without making lots of noise and (ideally) bear spray at the ready. Opening day hits and we're all quiet and oblivious. Speaking of bear spray, why no mention of it anywhere here? It's been proven to be more effective and non-lethal than firearms, yet totally excluded from the story. FWP needs to reiterate their position on bear spray at every opportunity like this.
Fatally hit a charging griz in the head at 20 ft? That's some pretty good shooting considering the pressure... this guy must have been practicing with F&S's online rifle game! ha!
I'm with dneaster3, we can't go intervening with nature to make sure everyone is safe. If you choose to hunt in grizzly country then you should be aware and be careful, or at least accept the possibility of danger.
On that note I don't find it necessary to be living in fear of bears when in bear country. There are people that go sheep hunting with a .338 just in case of bears. I think it's silly. Some will say that these pheasant hunters should have been armed and ready for bears. Sorry, but no one wants to carry around an 8-10 pound rifle when bird hunting.
I don't buy into any of that stuff. I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do, knowing that bears are around, knowing how to act around one, and knowing that bear attacks are quite rare. Most bear attacks are caused by the human doing something stupid. Bears aren't out for human blood (well OK, sometimes black bears are).
Reading this website and the media in general makes attacks/incidents look a lot more frequent than they are. No one reports on the zillions of hunters that go out every day and don't get attacked, or even see a bear at all, or see a bear and everything goes swimmingly, even if it was a close encounter.
Thats enough to make a man wet his britches and cry for his momma when a mad bear is after you
gotta say dropping a charging grizz with a 20ga is lucky on a good day. wonder how heavy their underwear was after the bear dropped.
most of the bears that attack look to me like there are only 20 to 30 feet away and are comming after some body that dont even know the bear was there,,looks like the bears want to attack all the time, they sure dont run and hide like any thing else would,so the hunter had evry right to shoot it,
they could run and hide when they aint seen but they dont
a 20 ga has alot of knock down power at 20 feet isnt much of a pattern yet
I have to agree with you, Derrit....Good thing they had that thing loaded up, and it was a semi auto...
Damn, thank God cool heads prevailed. That 20ga. couldn't have bigger than #6 shot maybe #4. One of them pellets must havbe got through the eye into the brain.
Thats pretty crazy. its impressive that he took an offensive approach instead of running away. and with a 20 gauge. Wow.
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