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November 17, 2009

Discussion Topic: Do You Trust Your State Fish And Game Agency?

By Dave Hurteau

From a Southwick Associates Press Release:
In an October 2009 survey, Southwick Associates asked anglers and hunters which type of organization they trust the most for accurate information regarding fish and wildlife conservation. The results of the monthly AnglerSurvey.com and HunterSurvey.com poll show that state fish and wildlife agencies are considered the most trustworthy source of conservation information among hunters and anglers.

Of the 2,771 anglers surveyed, 54.4 percent reported state fish and wildlife agencies were their most trusted source. Of the 3,378 hunters surveyed, 50.7 percent agreed.  The second most trusted source, with 25.1 percent of anglers and 29.5 percent of hunters, was sport-fishing and hunting non-profit conservation groups.

Other options included federal agencies, outdoor television, and outdoor print media. Who do you trust most?

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from 60256 wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

I trust my game and fish department. They do a great job and they keep the laws followed. The game warden in my area is a good person and we talk all the time. I've been to the headquarters in Bismarck, and I have learned to be able to trust all of them.

Nate

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from deerhunter125 wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

They must not of polled too many people from Wisconsin because people would of given you a different answer about the wisconsin dnr. No one trusts them when it comes to deer, bear, wolf and mountain lion numbers.

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from JMcCullum wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

Illinois' DNR is chained to Chicago, like anything else around here. They try to be pretty straight forward, and our new governor is taking steps to improve public lands. Well just see how far the big city lets him take it.

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from idahooutdoors wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

Our state game agency seems to always do the best job they can. They are fully funded by sportsmen, and usually try and work in the interest of the wildlife and those that pursue wildlife for sport and food.....they seem to hold lots of meetings with the public, and take public comments and suggestions to heart...other than them I trust the sportsmen who have been in the woods the longest, the most worn boots on the ground are the best source of info....

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from jersey pig wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

despite being a law abiding sportsman i have had numerous negative contacts with it in NJ. the conservation officers have been unnecessarily rude (and i have several years in law enforcement and can say this with understanding), contact i have made with state biologists has been meant with ignorant (and i have saved the emails) responses and to top it all off everything is basically at the leisure of the governor (see the bear hunt fiasco we have had here for several years). i fully apreciate the mission of the division but can tell you i positively do not trust them. i believe it's purpose has changed from conservation to money making for the state (see also the numerous license and license fees, stamps, bonus tags, etc..)

just my 2 cents worth.

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from Mike Diehl wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

AZGFD means well but I think they tend to balance best game management practice against revenue generation. Most of the deer hunts in AZ are oversold. The seasons are short (1 week in one hunt unit) and the hunt units are crowded. Most bucks in southern arizona live no more than two or three years. They're small. They hide. There is almost no competition among bucks for mates, because does are protected. So you can hunt for a week, see a dozen does, some of which are immense by southern AZ standards, and maybe see a spikehorn buck.

I think 30% fewer permit tags and some doe tags would go a long way to redress the problem. But if they sold 30% fewer tags, that'd be 30% less revenue for their coffers.

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from Mr. Creosote wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

Are you kidding me?

My state wildlife department has secretly stocked mountain lions, rattlesnakes, red wolves, coyotes, badgers, black panthers, chupacabras, liberals, fire ants, jackalopes and Africanized honey bees all across my state because of "biodiversity."

I've been told grizzlies and the French are next on the list for secret introduction. Mon Deux!

And I stopped applying for my state's bonus hunts because all that infrmation goes straight into a UN database.

Of course I don't trust them! Don't believe anything you don't see on TV, I say. All those shows on the Versus channel seem pretty genuine. That's what I aspire to, anyway...

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from jeffo52284 wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

I believe that our state does a pretty good job and is pretty trustworthy but like everything else there is always room for improvement. Like idahooutdoors said the best information in our state is the old boys that have put in the foot work and get out there and unfortunately they are being choked out by a new breed of lazy road hunters

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from MLH wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

I think the Michigan DNR is pretty straightforward with us and is doing the best they can under a tight budget. I am not happy with what our governor is trying to pull off, though. For years the Director of the DNR has been appointed by a bi-partison Natural Resources Commission. She (Dem. Gov. Granholm) issued and Executive Order allowing her to appoint the Director, which puts natural resources management under whichever political party that is in control. Trust will go down the tubes if that happens.

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from babsfish4life wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

I trust Idaho's Fish and Game as a whole but not the individuals. I believe the high ups are good, smart and ethical and are in the job for the right reason. I have met lots of great wardens but most of them are 50+ years old. So many of the young wardens watch too much "Dog the Bounty Hunter" and are these cop wannabes on a power trip that treats everybody as a criminal and not as a fellow sportsman.

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from JOHN ANDERSON wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

babsfish4life,There is great wisdom in your words!!The DTBH-reference.Spot on.+for you!

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from Bob81 wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

deerhunter125,
I'm from Wisconsin and I do trust our game department for the most part (I also know a number of employees and believe they are good people doing the best they can at a difficult job.)

Game departments are trying to serve multiple masters, some of which have contradictory goals. Hunters want the biggest populations of game animals possible, politicians want to maximize revenue taken from hunters and fisherman, and biologists and nature lovers want a balance maintained between the whole spectrum of native species.

It's an incredibly tough job...

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from Brad Brooks wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

As other respondents have said, I do trust Idaho's Fish and Game Department. The biologists spend inordinant amounts of time gathering data on wildlife, and the progress reports on population trends for game units are usually spot on.

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from rweedin wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

I do trust them, but sometimes they are just spread to thin, their info is just too general. The MDC (Missouri) has waterfowl migration maps but I doubt they have anyone actually monitor the migrations, it's probably just preset to show usualy numbers during different dates throughout the season. They do the best they can though.

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from ejunk wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

I trust that mine (West Virginia) is chronically underfunded and does the best that they can with what they have.

I usually find a reason to call a WVDNR biologist or Wildlife Manager 3 or 4 times a year and the conversations are, without fail, informative and enjoyable.

yrs-
Evan!

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from Brittle wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

deer hunter 125 is right no one in the right mind should trust wisconsin dnr they want the numbers of deer to go down with 16 day season too much, deer numbers stayed the same as last year if you add a bigger season they will go down significatly

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from Jeepdude1987 wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

I believe what the NMDGF says. Although it can be a trust but verify agency. There have been a much larger percent of tags going to out-of-state hunters than other western states. And that is something I don't like at all!

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from Jeepdude1987 wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

I believe what the NMDGF says. Although it can be a trust but verify agency. There have been a much larger percent of tags going to out-of-state hunters than other western states. And that is something I don't like at all!

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from seadog wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

I think FWC in Florida does a good job with limited resources. I don't always agree with their decisions and regulations, but they usually try to be fair to the various stakeholders. IMHO, they tend to favor commercial fishing over recreational fishing, but I'm sure the commercial fishermen disagree. The law enforcement guys in the field are underpaid--they deserve more. Most of them are doing a fantastic job and I give them a lot of credit. I guess that's easy for me to say--I'm carefull to follow the law. The poachers probably don't see it the same way.

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from idduckhntr wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

Babs you said it right on every time I get checked I'm treated like a criminal and a suspect even though I follow every game law because some kid with a gun and badge has a h!#d on for every body while the guy behind is treated like a king and probably has 2 bald eagles a moose and 3 elk killed out of season behind the seat of his truck.

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from deerslayer1234 wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

PA has a very well developed game commision. I trust them to tell me the truth.

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from Jere Smith wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

When they tell me there are no cougars in KS? NO, otherwise yes.

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from JohnR wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

I feel the WRC does a great job in our state. They are pretty transparent and all the biologists I have had communication with were smart and dedicated.
The bad experiences with WRC are with a few WRC enforcement officers who to borrow a line from Babsfish4life have watched too many "Dog the Bounty Hunter" shows. Most of the best officers are those over approximately 35 yrs old with some experience. I admit there is a learning curve for the new guys, however I have met a few "new guy officers" who were very professional their first year of service, so I have to surmise it's like all occupations in that there are always exceptions (the not so professional officers).

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from Nycflyangler wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

I'm not really happy with the DEC jacking up the freshwater license 52% and instituting a first time ever saltwater license, thus effectively raising the fee for fishing 105% from 2009 to 2010.

I've never been hassled by anyone, but I've never seen anyone while I've been fishing.

In my region, they're good about giving out their phone numbers so you can report anyone not following the C&R rules. In city of 8 mil, the poachers can clean out a lake pretty fast, so they respond quickly.

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from Robert Ewing wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

I trust info the IDNR accumulates and supplies.I just don't trust that they will do anything with the info.Two previous Govoners took what they could out the IDNR's budgets.We had park closures and programs theatened inspite of positive numbers for their use or participation.

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from mrmatt50 wrote 2 years 8 weeks ago

Northern Wisconsin Deer kills are down 70% over the last 2 years yet the wolves are increasing hmmmm according to the DNR Wolves are not the problem. The rest of the state reported the worst hunt since the late 80's yet our DNR thinks we have to many deer maybe they should stop their relationship with the insurance companies.
We have way to many hunts and we have dramtically thinned the hurd.

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from Sportsman21 wrote 2 years 5 weeks ago

Im from wisonsin...NOnonononononononononono never

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from deerhunter125 wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

They must not of polled too many people from Wisconsin because people would of given you a different answer about the wisconsin dnr. No one trusts them when it comes to deer, bear, wolf and mountain lion numbers.

+4 Good Comment? | | Report
from Mr. Creosote wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

Are you kidding me?

My state wildlife department has secretly stocked mountain lions, rattlesnakes, red wolves, coyotes, badgers, black panthers, chupacabras, liberals, fire ants, jackalopes and Africanized honey bees all across my state because of "biodiversity."

I've been told grizzlies and the French are next on the list for secret introduction. Mon Deux!

And I stopped applying for my state's bonus hunts because all that infrmation goes straight into a UN database.

Of course I don't trust them! Don't believe anything you don't see on TV, I say. All those shows on the Versus channel seem pretty genuine. That's what I aspire to, anyway...

+4 Good Comment? | | Report
from babsfish4life wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

I trust Idaho's Fish and Game as a whole but not the individuals. I believe the high ups are good, smart and ethical and are in the job for the right reason. I have met lots of great wardens but most of them are 50+ years old. So many of the young wardens watch too much "Dog the Bounty Hunter" and are these cop wannabes on a power trip that treats everybody as a criminal and not as a fellow sportsman.

+4 Good Comment? | | Report
from 60256 wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

I trust my game and fish department. They do a great job and they keep the laws followed. The game warden in my area is a good person and we talk all the time. I've been to the headquarters in Bismarck, and I have learned to be able to trust all of them.

Nate

+3 Good Comment? | | Report
from jersey pig wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

despite being a law abiding sportsman i have had numerous negative contacts with it in NJ. the conservation officers have been unnecessarily rude (and i have several years in law enforcement and can say this with understanding), contact i have made with state biologists has been meant with ignorant (and i have saved the emails) responses and to top it all off everything is basically at the leisure of the governor (see the bear hunt fiasco we have had here for several years). i fully apreciate the mission of the division but can tell you i positively do not trust them. i believe it's purpose has changed from conservation to money making for the state (see also the numerous license and license fees, stamps, bonus tags, etc..)

just my 2 cents worth.

+3 Good Comment? | | Report
from JMcCullum wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

Illinois' DNR is chained to Chicago, like anything else around here. They try to be pretty straight forward, and our new governor is taking steps to improve public lands. Well just see how far the big city lets him take it.

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from idahooutdoors wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

Our state game agency seems to always do the best job they can. They are fully funded by sportsmen, and usually try and work in the interest of the wildlife and those that pursue wildlife for sport and food.....they seem to hold lots of meetings with the public, and take public comments and suggestions to heart...other than them I trust the sportsmen who have been in the woods the longest, the most worn boots on the ground are the best source of info....

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from Mike Diehl wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

AZGFD means well but I think they tend to balance best game management practice against revenue generation. Most of the deer hunts in AZ are oversold. The seasons are short (1 week in one hunt unit) and the hunt units are crowded. Most bucks in southern arizona live no more than two or three years. They're small. They hide. There is almost no competition among bucks for mates, because does are protected. So you can hunt for a week, see a dozen does, some of which are immense by southern AZ standards, and maybe see a spikehorn buck.

I think 30% fewer permit tags and some doe tags would go a long way to redress the problem. But if they sold 30% fewer tags, that'd be 30% less revenue for their coffers.

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from Brad Brooks wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

As other respondents have said, I do trust Idaho's Fish and Game Department. The biologists spend inordinant amounts of time gathering data on wildlife, and the progress reports on population trends for game units are usually spot on.

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from rweedin wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

I do trust them, but sometimes they are just spread to thin, their info is just too general. The MDC (Missouri) has waterfowl migration maps but I doubt they have anyone actually monitor the migrations, it's probably just preset to show usualy numbers during different dates throughout the season. They do the best they can though.

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from seadog wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

I think FWC in Florida does a good job with limited resources. I don't always agree with their decisions and regulations, but they usually try to be fair to the various stakeholders. IMHO, they tend to favor commercial fishing over recreational fishing, but I'm sure the commercial fishermen disagree. The law enforcement guys in the field are underpaid--they deserve more. Most of them are doing a fantastic job and I give them a lot of credit. I guess that's easy for me to say--I'm carefull to follow the law. The poachers probably don't see it the same way.

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from jeffo52284 wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

I believe that our state does a pretty good job and is pretty trustworthy but like everything else there is always room for improvement. Like idahooutdoors said the best information in our state is the old boys that have put in the foot work and get out there and unfortunately they are being choked out by a new breed of lazy road hunters

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from MLH wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

I think the Michigan DNR is pretty straightforward with us and is doing the best they can under a tight budget. I am not happy with what our governor is trying to pull off, though. For years the Director of the DNR has been appointed by a bi-partison Natural Resources Commission. She (Dem. Gov. Granholm) issued and Executive Order allowing her to appoint the Director, which puts natural resources management under whichever political party that is in control. Trust will go down the tubes if that happens.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from JOHN ANDERSON wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

babsfish4life,There is great wisdom in your words!!The DTBH-reference.Spot on.+for you!

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from ejunk wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

I trust that mine (West Virginia) is chronically underfunded and does the best that they can with what they have.

I usually find a reason to call a WVDNR biologist or Wildlife Manager 3 or 4 times a year and the conversations are, without fail, informative and enjoyable.

yrs-
Evan!

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Brittle wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

deer hunter 125 is right no one in the right mind should trust wisconsin dnr they want the numbers of deer to go down with 16 day season too much, deer numbers stayed the same as last year if you add a bigger season they will go down significatly

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Jeepdude1987 wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

I believe what the NMDGF says. Although it can be a trust but verify agency. There have been a much larger percent of tags going to out-of-state hunters than other western states. And that is something I don't like at all!

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Jeepdude1987 wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

I believe what the NMDGF says. Although it can be a trust but verify agency. There have been a much larger percent of tags going to out-of-state hunters than other western states. And that is something I don't like at all!

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Jere Smith wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

When they tell me there are no cougars in KS? NO, otherwise yes.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from mrmatt50 wrote 2 years 8 weeks ago

Northern Wisconsin Deer kills are down 70% over the last 2 years yet the wolves are increasing hmmmm according to the DNR Wolves are not the problem. The rest of the state reported the worst hunt since the late 80's yet our DNR thinks we have to many deer maybe they should stop their relationship with the insurance companies.
We have way to many hunts and we have dramtically thinned the hurd.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Bob81 wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

deerhunter125,
I'm from Wisconsin and I do trust our game department for the most part (I also know a number of employees and believe they are good people doing the best they can at a difficult job.)

Game departments are trying to serve multiple masters, some of which have contradictory goals. Hunters want the biggest populations of game animals possible, politicians want to maximize revenue taken from hunters and fisherman, and biologists and nature lovers want a balance maintained between the whole spectrum of native species.

It's an incredibly tough job...

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from idduckhntr wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

Babs you said it right on every time I get checked I'm treated like a criminal and a suspect even though I follow every game law because some kid with a gun and badge has a h!#d on for every body while the guy behind is treated like a king and probably has 2 bald eagles a moose and 3 elk killed out of season behind the seat of his truck.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from deerslayer1234 wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

PA has a very well developed game commision. I trust them to tell me the truth.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from JohnR wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

I feel the WRC does a great job in our state. They are pretty transparent and all the biologists I have had communication with were smart and dedicated.
The bad experiences with WRC are with a few WRC enforcement officers who to borrow a line from Babsfish4life have watched too many "Dog the Bounty Hunter" shows. Most of the best officers are those over approximately 35 yrs old with some experience. I admit there is a learning curve for the new guys, however I have met a few "new guy officers" who were very professional their first year of service, so I have to surmise it's like all occupations in that there are always exceptions (the not so professional officers).

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from Nycflyangler wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

I'm not really happy with the DEC jacking up the freshwater license 52% and instituting a first time ever saltwater license, thus effectively raising the fee for fishing 105% from 2009 to 2010.

I've never been hassled by anyone, but I've never seen anyone while I've been fishing.

In my region, they're good about giving out their phone numbers so you can report anyone not following the C&R rules. In city of 8 mil, the poachers can clean out a lake pretty fast, so they respond quickly.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from Robert Ewing wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

I trust info the IDNR accumulates and supplies.I just don't trust that they will do anything with the info.Two previous Govoners took what they could out the IDNR's budgets.We had park closures and programs theatened inspite of positive numbers for their use or participation.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from Sportsman21 wrote 2 years 5 weeks ago

Im from wisonsin...NOnonononononononononono never

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