


November 24, 2009
Weekly Rut Report
By Scott Bestul
First off, apologies to readers of this blog for the absence of last week’s rut report. Due to some technical difficulties it did not get posted, and I’ve received at least one email wondering what was up. Hopefully we’re back on track now.

Just returned from a hunt in western Kansas (and no, that was not the source of the “technical difficulty” mentioned above!) where I experienced an interesting hunt. Just as in other places I’ve hunted this fall, standing crops (in this case, corn and milo) seemed to impact traditional deer patterns. Here in the Midwest, an unusually late harvest has created a sea of cover that rutting whitetails don’t normally enjoy. In short, if you can hunt the edges of standing crop fields, you have a decent chance of meeting a good buck. If your property does not sport unharvested fields but they’re in the neighborhood, you can be in for some long, unproductive sits.
I have another excuse for my failure to kill a buck. Pheasant season was on, and though I’ve enjoyed great deer hunting during Kansas bird season in the past, this year brought an unprecedented number of upland guys to the area. Virtually every day a group of bird hunters and their dogs would work cover adjacent to our tree stands, and the result was some highly nervous deer. Obviously, I don’t begrudge the pheasant boys their sport (I’m a ringneck addict myself) but next fall I’ll time my visit before the upland hunting begins.
Make no mistake here; hunting pressure (whether for quail, ducks, or deer) does not deter bucks from seeking, chasing and breeding does. This rutting activity is going to happen no matter what. However, the when and where of breeding behavior can be highly influenced by human activity. In my experience, pressure causes deer shift to areas within their home range that include thick cover (including standing crops) and move more readily at night. Anyone else with similar reports?
Still, staying out of the woods is not an option, no matter how difficult the hunting. After all, you could always find a monster running large, just as Illinois bowhunter Raymond Voss did last week. This fine Prairie State buck (above) was spotted by one of Raymond’s neighbors one afternoon. Rather than keep mum about the giant, Tim Walmsley told Raymond about the active buck. The next day, Mr. Voss set up in that area and arrowed the giant. Always nice to have a friend who’s willing to share!
Comments (30)
Great buck!!!
I agree with the corn bit. I live in ND and it was a very unproductive season for many because the deer just wouldn't leave the corn.
Nate
Same deal in WI so far, way too much standing corn and the rut is over, so we are eating alot of tag stew.
wisconsin does still have alot of standing corn and i hunt by a corn field but i cant hunt it so i think thats where they are.
I had to leave town for the peak of the rut but came home just in time to watch the corn come down. Deer sightings increased tremendously including a very nice "shooter" a couple mornings ago.
Deer gun season starts Monday but I will continue to bow hunt.
In my area (Ohio) I have had better success during the second rut. Mid Dec through Xmas.
My group was pheasant hunting in SW Kansas and only about half the crops had been combined by opening day then it rained the next several days. We usually see some huge bucks but this year only a few does. There was plenty of buck sign but the big guys stay in the corn until it's all combined according to my cousin.
We saw ;ots of pheasants too but they mostly flushed out of range after the opener. Beekeeper and I was the only 2 out of six guys to get 4 roosters.
We saw thousands of geese and ducks feeding in the cut corn fields. Too bad we Left the decoys at home.
On the trip home we saw a giant whitetail in a beanfield in the suburbs of Wichita.
When i was in Ohio, the standing corn caused problems. Here in Jersey the rut seems to be about 2 weeks later than elsewhere, which puts it about NOW. Got a couple phonecalls this week about bucks acting Goofy. Unfortunately it's back to work for me.
Yeh, the deer have all been hiding in the corn around where I hunt. I have already shot my buck, but my buddies have all been having less luck. Really you just got to be in the right place at the right time. They have to drink and bed sometime! Just find there water holes and their bed trails. I did that and it really paid off with a HUGE 8-pointer. First day I hunted the stand too. One thing that really helps is to put up a good trail camera and find when the deer are in a given place. Place your stand accordingly. For example, I noticed that bucks seemed to travel one of our trials just before sunrise. I reasoned that they wouldn't be in a hurry, so I followed the trail a mile or so and set the camera there. Sure enough, there were several deer that passed along that particular setup around first light. I then put my stand another 50 yards downwind of the trail where I saw some scrapes and rubs. The first morning I huntedthe stand, I arrowed a nice 21" wide 8-pointer. You just have to know how they get to the field and intercept them. They will not stay in the field for ever. You just have to know when they arn't. It's really not that hard, but it takes time and lots of scouting. Good luck and good hinting to all yaalll.
the best deer i saw in gun season was a little basket 8...other than that a couple of does
illinois guys- too warm this year too, don't you think?
I had to tell Raymond-He did the same thing for me last year! TW
Hjohn it seems your family owns some primo whitetail land. Most are not as lucky and it's not as easy as you suggest for those of us hunting public land or nonexclusive private land. Great job on arrowing that big buck though.
Alberta is no better. way too warm and only a skiff of snow in places. Got a 4pt on the weekend and saw a couple others that were on private property but in the 150+ I am holding out for, or I shoot a doe. If I cant have huge rack then I want good meat. The 4pt was 265#, well bled, so real nice size. This week is going to be the active week because I saw so many on the weekend. Lots of movement everywhere. Cant wait for Friday. Good luck everyone.
The corn and the lack of deer were major concerns for the WI rut and opening weekend of the gun season. I think the DNR grossly overestimated the # deer in the woods. Too many T Zone hunts.
Although the rut in Ohio is winding down, with most does bred, there are sme signs that the secondary rut is still on. Corn is a favorite food of deer in the buckeye state, but it causes few problems for me. Deer in the areas I hunt feed heavily on crabapples(of which there is a very good crop, thereof)and acorns. I was seeing a huge 12 point chasing does over the last two weeks, but he was in an area that is off limits to hunters andnow he is not showing himself. (i came close to hitting him with my truck). There was a youth gun hunt last weekend and the general small game season is in full swing. I have seen some does out feeding in the fields in the late afternoon and that tells me that the rut is just about over in Ohio
I spent 9 days in the woods and on field edges in northern Missouri (Carroll County). Our crew saw a fair amount of deer the first few days (1 guy seeing 0) and it slowed down as the week went on. One guy took a nice 12 pointer last Thur. or Fri. After speaking with neighbors and cleaning a few deer all beasts were fukk of corn. A large majority of corn is stil standing and the rain did not help the farmers in getting it out. Most of us did not see as many chases as we had in years prior. I will never complain about a hunt but it was definately slower than our last 3 years.
opening day in wisconsin most of the bucks taken have been said to be following doe's i didn't see anything bucks or does where i usually see one or the other so wisconsin's rut hit a little later 2nd rut should be pretty good seeing how many of the does are not getting bred due to hunting pressure
ya corn has been a problem although i was lucky enough to get my buck the first day i had problems getting my brother one (his tags still unfilled) i also think it has been a bit warmer than usual. agree?
Slow here in Ark.(weather ?).
Did shoot a BIG bobcat last Sat. though !
HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL.............
Here in Oklahoma, seems the seeking/chasing phase is in full force as of last Saturday. Where I hunt, we have been seeing good numbers of deer and I took my largest buck to date, a nice 9 point a week ago. He came in on a string at a trot and payed me no attention whatsoever. Another guy that hunts across the hill from me got a large 8 point about 30 min after I did. I can't wait to see what this weekend has in store! Hopefully all will go well, my father-in-law will be joining me this weekend for a morning hunt. He's had some tough luck but I've got a feeling that will change. Hope you all have a great Thanksgiving and a great hunting season!
I live about 5 miles from Iowa in Schuyler Co, Missouri. I hunted 75% of our 10 day firearm season. I only saw a buck chasing once. We have 50% of our corn still standing, and periodic rain. That killed our rut. I saw very few mature bucks, and a lot of does. In fact I did not kick my rifle off of safety till the second weekend. Oh well, muzzleload season comes in a few more weeks. Guess I will try for a decent buck with the ol smoke pole.
The standing crops actually helped my group this year. The property we hunt in West Ky had most of the acorn producing twigs and tops ripped down by the ice storm of spring 09. The resulting acorn crop was pitiful. Luckily,our property was in soybeans this year which you can see to shoot over. It was like hunting a huge green field. Here in Alabama the bucks are still in bachelor groups. I got a nice 8 with my rifle Monday. He was with another 8, two 6's and a spike. Our rut should begin to heat up around Christmas and run all the way through the Jan 31 close of gun season.
OH NO, RUN DEER RUN!!!!! GO OBAMA
"The corn and the lack of deer were major concerns for the WI rut and opening weekend of the gun season. I think the DNR grossly overestimated the # deer in the woods. Too many T Zone hunts." Coundn't say it better stormn. The DNR in WI defently overestimated the deer numbers I think we were down 33,000 deer in the opening weekend. I think we need another Earn A Buck year so we can take out every deer possible haha.
And now in WI they are pushing for a 16 day gun hunt whats it going to help when there are no deer to shoot??? Sorry for the rant
Crops are slowly comming out in MN. Hoping for a productive post rut for muzzleloaders and bow hunters. Nothing beets baging a wooly battle scarred buck!
Not alot of "sign" on the public stuff I've be "forced" to hunt on due to work(lol).
Not alot of "pressure" either though(other than me) !
A true buck with mass!
How was this a rut report?? Totally off topic.
I live in Wisconsin but hunted Illinois earlier in November. The farmers we talked to said 90 percent of the corn was still up and at night when we went into town there was a deer in every isle of the cornfields. Same here in wisconsin I hunt right next to a cornfield and they just won't leave it.
I wish we had the problem with too much corn and soybeans in my area of Georgia. Those were the good old days! All we have is pine trees (crp) and pastures now. I have to drive south to my home county to find crop fields. Looks like the second ruts is kicking in around my home in the lower piedmont now. Saw plenty of activity this weekend and the guys cutting late hay report seeing tons of bucks running does.
I live in Wyoming County W.V. and I hunted hard all week last week & seen no sign of bucks chasing does. As a matter of a fact on all my trail-cams I seen several large bucks running together. If anyone else in my area has any news please submit it. I would like to hear some good news.
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My group was pheasant hunting in SW Kansas and only about half the crops had been combined by opening day then it rained the next several days. We usually see some huge bucks but this year only a few does. There was plenty of buck sign but the big guys stay in the corn until it's all combined according to my cousin.
We saw ;ots of pheasants too but they mostly flushed out of range after the opener. Beekeeper and I was the only 2 out of six guys to get 4 roosters.
We saw thousands of geese and ducks feeding in the cut corn fields. Too bad we Left the decoys at home.
On the trip home we saw a giant whitetail in a beanfield in the suburbs of Wichita.
I had to leave town for the peak of the rut but came home just in time to watch the corn come down. Deer sightings increased tremendously including a very nice "shooter" a couple mornings ago.
Deer gun season starts Monday but I will continue to bow hunt.
In my area (Ohio) I have had better success during the second rut. Mid Dec through Xmas.
Yeh, the deer have all been hiding in the corn around where I hunt. I have already shot my buck, but my buddies have all been having less luck. Really you just got to be in the right place at the right time. They have to drink and bed sometime! Just find there water holes and their bed trails. I did that and it really paid off with a HUGE 8-pointer. First day I hunted the stand too. One thing that really helps is to put up a good trail camera and find when the deer are in a given place. Place your stand accordingly. For example, I noticed that bucks seemed to travel one of our trials just before sunrise. I reasoned that they wouldn't be in a hurry, so I followed the trail a mile or so and set the camera there. Sure enough, there were several deer that passed along that particular setup around first light. I then put my stand another 50 yards downwind of the trail where I saw some scrapes and rubs. The first morning I huntedthe stand, I arrowed a nice 21" wide 8-pointer. You just have to know how they get to the field and intercept them. They will not stay in the field for ever. You just have to know when they arn't. It's really not that hard, but it takes time and lots of scouting. Good luck and good hinting to all yaalll.
And now in WI they are pushing for a 16 day gun hunt whats it going to help when there are no deer to shoot??? Sorry for the rant
I had to tell Raymond-He did the same thing for me last year! TW
the best deer i saw in gun season was a little basket 8...other than that a couple of does
illinois guys- too warm this year too, don't you think?
The corn and the lack of deer were major concerns for the WI rut and opening weekend of the gun season. I think the DNR grossly overestimated the # deer in the woods. Too many T Zone hunts.
Great buck!!!
I agree with the corn bit. I live in ND and it was a very unproductive season for many because the deer just wouldn't leave the corn.
Nate
Alberta is no better. way too warm and only a skiff of snow in places. Got a 4pt on the weekend and saw a couple others that were on private property but in the 150+ I am holding out for, or I shoot a doe. If I cant have huge rack then I want good meat. The 4pt was 265#, well bled, so real nice size. This week is going to be the active week because I saw so many on the weekend. Lots of movement everywhere. Cant wait for Friday. Good luck everyone.
Here in Oklahoma, seems the seeking/chasing phase is in full force as of last Saturday. Where I hunt, we have been seeing good numbers of deer and I took my largest buck to date, a nice 9 point a week ago. He came in on a string at a trot and payed me no attention whatsoever. Another guy that hunts across the hill from me got a large 8 point about 30 min after I did. I can't wait to see what this weekend has in store! Hopefully all will go well, my father-in-law will be joining me this weekend for a morning hunt. He's had some tough luck but I've got a feeling that will change. Hope you all have a great Thanksgiving and a great hunting season!
When i was in Ohio, the standing corn caused problems. Here in Jersey the rut seems to be about 2 weeks later than elsewhere, which puts it about NOW. Got a couple phonecalls this week about bucks acting Goofy. Unfortunately it's back to work for me.
Hjohn it seems your family owns some primo whitetail land. Most are not as lucky and it's not as easy as you suggest for those of us hunting public land or nonexclusive private land. Great job on arrowing that big buck though.
Same deal in WI so far, way too much standing corn and the rut is over, so we are eating alot of tag stew.
Slow here in Ark.(weather ?).
Did shoot a BIG bobcat last Sat. though !
Not alot of "sign" on the public stuff I've be "forced" to hunt on due to work(lol).
Not alot of "pressure" either though(other than me) !
"The corn and the lack of deer were major concerns for the WI rut and opening weekend of the gun season. I think the DNR grossly overestimated the # deer in the woods. Too many T Zone hunts." Coundn't say it better stormn. The DNR in WI defently overestimated the deer numbers I think we were down 33,000 deer in the opening weekend. I think we need another Earn A Buck year so we can take out every deer possible haha.
The standing crops actually helped my group this year. The property we hunt in West Ky had most of the acorn producing twigs and tops ripped down by the ice storm of spring 09. The resulting acorn crop was pitiful. Luckily,our property was in soybeans this year which you can see to shoot over. It was like hunting a huge green field. Here in Alabama the bucks are still in bachelor groups. I got a nice 8 with my rifle Monday. He was with another 8, two 6's and a spike. Our rut should begin to heat up around Christmas and run all the way through the Jan 31 close of gun season.
wisconsin does still have alot of standing corn and i hunt by a corn field but i cant hunt it so i think thats where they are.
ya corn has been a problem although i was lucky enough to get my buck the first day i had problems getting my brother one (his tags still unfilled) i also think it has been a bit warmer than usual. agree?
I spent 9 days in the woods and on field edges in northern Missouri (Carroll County). Our crew saw a fair amount of deer the first few days (1 guy seeing 0) and it slowed down as the week went on. One guy took a nice 12 pointer last Thur. or Fri. After speaking with neighbors and cleaning a few deer all beasts were fukk of corn. A large majority of corn is stil standing and the rain did not help the farmers in getting it out. Most of us did not see as many chases as we had in years prior. I will never complain about a hunt but it was definately slower than our last 3 years.
Although the rut in Ohio is winding down, with most does bred, there are sme signs that the secondary rut is still on. Corn is a favorite food of deer in the buckeye state, but it causes few problems for me. Deer in the areas I hunt feed heavily on crabapples(of which there is a very good crop, thereof)and acorns. I was seeing a huge 12 point chasing does over the last two weeks, but he was in an area that is off limits to hunters andnow he is not showing himself. (i came close to hitting him with my truck). There was a youth gun hunt last weekend and the general small game season is in full swing. I have seen some does out feeding in the fields in the late afternoon and that tells me that the rut is just about over in Ohio
HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL.............
opening day in wisconsin most of the bucks taken have been said to be following doe's i didn't see anything bucks or does where i usually see one or the other so wisconsin's rut hit a little later 2nd rut should be pretty good seeing how many of the does are not getting bred due to hunting pressure
I live about 5 miles from Iowa in Schuyler Co, Missouri. I hunted 75% of our 10 day firearm season. I only saw a buck chasing once. We have 50% of our corn still standing, and periodic rain. That killed our rut. I saw very few mature bucks, and a lot of does. In fact I did not kick my rifle off of safety till the second weekend. Oh well, muzzleload season comes in a few more weeks. Guess I will try for a decent buck with the ol smoke pole.
Crops are slowly comming out in MN. Hoping for a productive post rut for muzzleloaders and bow hunters. Nothing beets baging a wooly battle scarred buck!
A true buck with mass!
I wish we had the problem with too much corn and soybeans in my area of Georgia. Those were the good old days! All we have is pine trees (crp) and pastures now. I have to drive south to my home county to find crop fields. Looks like the second ruts is kicking in around my home in the lower piedmont now. Saw plenty of activity this weekend and the guys cutting late hay report seeing tons of bucks running does.
I live in Wisconsin but hunted Illinois earlier in November. The farmers we talked to said 90 percent of the corn was still up and at night when we went into town there was a deer in every isle of the cornfields. Same here in wisconsin I hunt right next to a cornfield and they just won't leave it.
How was this a rut report?? Totally off topic.
I live in Wyoming County W.V. and I hunted hard all week last week & seen no sign of bucks chasing does. As a matter of a fact on all my trail-cams I seen several large bucks running together. If anyone else in my area has any news please submit it. I would like to hear some good news.
OH NO, RUN DEER RUN!!!!! GO OBAMA
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