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December 09, 2009

700-Pound PA Black Bear Poached Over Pastries

By Dave Hurteau

From The Standard Speaker:
A Bear Creek Township man's record bear hunting harvest may be going on his criminal record.

Charles Olson Jr. recently bagged a 707-pound black bear in Wyoming County, the largest of the 3,036 bears harvested in Pennsylvania during the state's bear season.

But Pennsylvania Game Commission officials say he cheated.
They say Olson, 38, baited the bear with pastries, which constitutes illegal poaching in Pennsylvania.

Game Commission officials said they will seek a three-year suspension of Olson's hunting privileges. He faces a fine of between $500 and $1,500 and could be forced to pay up to $5,000 in restitution for illegally killing a trophy-class bear. . . .

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from RJ Arena wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

Did he cheat? this is a serious accusation, what is the proof? A bear that big does what he wants, stealing pastry sounds about right this time of year.If this guy is guilty, throw the book at him, but he is innocent until proven guilty, so lets see the proof.

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from jersey pig wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

pensy is extremely strict about baiting. completely not allowed. and if i remember correctly there can not be so much as a kernal of corn left on the ground at least 30 days prior to hunting an area. and this is enforced for all game in that state as far as i recall.

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from Mike Diehl wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

According to the article, (1) the perp confessed, (2) we're not talking about a bear snagging a pie from someone's window. He apparently had a pickup truck bed full of discarded pastries that he dumped in the woods somewhere.

It's clearly baiting, not something in the "grey area."

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

You mean it was not Yogi or Boo-boo snagging a picnic basket at Jellystone?

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from MLH wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

Spotted by CO's driving through town with a pickup bed full of pastries, just before season? Admits to hunting over bait and then denies it? Some people just ask for it.

Amazing that the bear went from 300 pounds to over 700 in about 5 months. Have to wonder how much of that was due to truckloads of pastries.

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from jeffo52284 wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

what a jerk i hate seeing trophy's go to cheaters. the animal does not get the recognition it deserves and give hunting a bad name three years isnt enough if you ask me. throw the book at him if he openly admits to baiting and therefore poaching

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from bjohnston wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

What a shame. Thousands of guys put in the time to scout the woods for a chance for a bear like that and some LAZY SLOB takes a short cut. Let there be justice for the guys that do it right and max out his fine and time in the county jail.

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from Douglas wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

I saw a raven hereabouts fly out of the woods with a donut in its bill a couple years ago. I made a comment about it to the local forest ranger and he ended up busting some bear baiters. Nothing around here gets to grow to a trophy size due to the bait pile sitters who call themselves hunters.
If this PA guy turns out to be guilty, three years suspension of hunting privledges is too short a time.

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from mwmrtn wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

Whats the difference if he was hunting in an apple orchard!!!is that baiting?? or hunting in a food plot for deer?? Pa and their baiting laws!!! They bait bears else where. Total BS !

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from mwmrtn wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

Hopefully he gets a good legal council and sticks it to the Pa game "laws"!!!!

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from Jim in Mo wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

Is that all the trouble he's getting for a 700lb black bear? Jeez for that size bear the punishment seems to encourage others to take the risk. A three year suspension of his hunting privileges? What privilege does he deserve? I have no tolerance for poachers.

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from fliphuntr14 wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

i don t know if the bear really gained 400lbs in a couple months??? thats kind of ridiculous.. its legal to do in wisconsin and i personally think its better than the act of chasing them with dogs..

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from mwmrtn wrote 2 years 8 weeks ago

Apparently no one on here ever hunted bears before.Its OK for the so called "Outdoor Pros" to shoot B&C bucks out of corn fields/food plots in the late season when the deer are targeting food sources!!absolutely insane.On the other hand people don't have a clue of what it takes in the amount of time/effort,days/weeks that these guys spend hunting in a blind and what it takes to see, let alone kill a bear/deer of that size!! Anyone that thinks hunting over "bait" is easy, hasn't done it!

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from Jere Smith wrote 2 years 8 weeks ago

What a PUTZ!

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from MLH wrote 2 years 8 weeks ago

I have no problem with hunting bear over bait or with dogs ... where it is legal. Issue is that it is not legal in PA and this guy was breaking the law. That and the moronic way he went about it reflects badly on all hunters.

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from bjohnston wrote 2 years 8 weeks ago

MWMRTN, just because you have an issue with a law, doesn't mean it's ok to break the law. If baiting is what you like to do, go where it's legal. Same thing with hunting with hounds, not legal in PA but there are places it is. There are proper channels to go through to change laws, just ignoring them makes you a criminal. I believe it when you say baiting isn't easy, but in PA it is illegal.

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from Paul Wilke wrote 2 years 8 weeks ago

It's simple, he broke the law. The fact that he was "hunting", or that it was a 700 lb. bear is not relevant.
You don't hunt deer in June. you don't hunt with a full auto weapon, you don't fish with explosives and you don't jack light deer. Just a few things that have kept hunting and fishing available.
Without rules the American Bison all but disappeared, passenger pigeons didn't make it.
I've heard that there were wood land bison and elk wiped out east of the Mississippi by unrestrained hunting.
Following the rules and GHP's (good hunting practices) are what keep hunting and fishing available.
Breaking the law shows a disrespect for the sport, the other hunters and the game.
And you should be fined and kept out of the woods and waters and the company of real sportsmen.

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from mwmrtn wrote 2 years 8 weeks ago

There is such a wide variance/extremes when it come to these laws and how it is interpreted , that you could be in violation at anytime.I am, all for rules/seasons and laws to protect wildlife/resources. Example: Shoot a deer/or bear in a old/overgrown/abandon fruit orchard is this baiting??? It very well could be construed that way.I think the laws pertaining to what is considered baiting need to be revamped.

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from peter wrote 2 years 8 weeks ago

i live close, in luzerne county and someone baiting so close gets me pissed. huntin right around there leagslly and not gettin anything while someone cheats and gets a trophy

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from Jim in Mo wrote 2 years 8 weeks ago

peter, you brought up a good point. You could be charged with hunting a baited area and you didn'teven know it was there.

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from JohnR wrote 2 years 8 weeks ago

I am staying away from any possibility of a baiting debate. Suffice it to say that some states allow it, some don't and his state is one of the don'ts.
If he is guilty, there are consequences and that is the law.
Just curious about how much weight the bear could have gained since July if it had eaten at McDonald's? :-)

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from gatorb8t wrote 2 years 8 weeks ago

If he is guilty,they should throw the book at him. A lifetime suspension not a few years. But what is the real proof to back up what they claim,did they see him hunting over the bait or are they just claiming this because of stomach contents? The area of Pa. where I bear hunt is surrounded by numerous farms. So, if a bear happens to have been in the corn the night before or raided our bird feeder and I would happen to shoot him going back up the mountain,was I hunt'n over bait. Our game officer's are so quick to condemn and charge, but will nothing to help a hunter when they need it.

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from abrege wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

I have no problems with baiting/dogs whatever. Just follow the laws for your area. If you break the law you are bringing negative attention to a sport that seems to never get any positive attention. It is guys like this that the anti's jump on and make us all look like a'holes

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from 1Shot2Kills wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Stop the bear baiting; it's cheap, and takes a good portion of the hunting and tracking aspect out of bear hunting!

http://www.bear-hunting.org

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from Mike Diehl wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

According to the article, (1) the perp confessed, (2) we're not talking about a bear snagging a pie from someone's window. He apparently had a pickup truck bed full of discarded pastries that he dumped in the woods somewhere.

It's clearly baiting, not something in the "grey area."

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from bjohnston wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

What a shame. Thousands of guys put in the time to scout the woods for a chance for a bear like that and some LAZY SLOB takes a short cut. Let there be justice for the guys that do it right and max out his fine and time in the county jail.

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from jersey pig wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

pensy is extremely strict about baiting. completely not allowed. and if i remember correctly there can not be so much as a kernal of corn left on the ground at least 30 days prior to hunting an area. and this is enforced for all game in that state as far as i recall.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

You mean it was not Yogi or Boo-boo snagging a picnic basket at Jellystone?

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from Douglas wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

I saw a raven hereabouts fly out of the woods with a donut in its bill a couple years ago. I made a comment about it to the local forest ranger and he ended up busting some bear baiters. Nothing around here gets to grow to a trophy size due to the bait pile sitters who call themselves hunters.
If this PA guy turns out to be guilty, three years suspension of hunting privledges is too short a time.

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from RJ Arena wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

Did he cheat? this is a serious accusation, what is the proof? A bear that big does what he wants, stealing pastry sounds about right this time of year.If this guy is guilty, throw the book at him, but he is innocent until proven guilty, so lets see the proof.

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from MLH wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

Spotted by CO's driving through town with a pickup bed full of pastries, just before season? Admits to hunting over bait and then denies it? Some people just ask for it.

Amazing that the bear went from 300 pounds to over 700 in about 5 months. Have to wonder how much of that was due to truckloads of pastries.

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from jeffo52284 wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

what a jerk i hate seeing trophy's go to cheaters. the animal does not get the recognition it deserves and give hunting a bad name three years isnt enough if you ask me. throw the book at him if he openly admits to baiting and therefore poaching

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from Paul Wilke wrote 2 years 8 weeks ago

It's simple, he broke the law. The fact that he was "hunting", or that it was a 700 lb. bear is not relevant.
You don't hunt deer in June. you don't hunt with a full auto weapon, you don't fish with explosives and you don't jack light deer. Just a few things that have kept hunting and fishing available.
Without rules the American Bison all but disappeared, passenger pigeons didn't make it.
I've heard that there were wood land bison and elk wiped out east of the Mississippi by unrestrained hunting.
Following the rules and GHP's (good hunting practices) are what keep hunting and fishing available.
Breaking the law shows a disrespect for the sport, the other hunters and the game.
And you should be fined and kept out of the woods and waters and the company of real sportsmen.

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from Jim in Mo wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

Is that all the trouble he's getting for a 700lb black bear? Jeez for that size bear the punishment seems to encourage others to take the risk. A three year suspension of his hunting privileges? What privilege does he deserve? I have no tolerance for poachers.

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from fliphuntr14 wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

i don t know if the bear really gained 400lbs in a couple months??? thats kind of ridiculous.. its legal to do in wisconsin and i personally think its better than the act of chasing them with dogs..

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from mwmrtn wrote 2 years 8 weeks ago

Apparently no one on here ever hunted bears before.Its OK for the so called "Outdoor Pros" to shoot B&C bucks out of corn fields/food plots in the late season when the deer are targeting food sources!!absolutely insane.On the other hand people don't have a clue of what it takes in the amount of time/effort,days/weeks that these guys spend hunting in a blind and what it takes to see, let alone kill a bear/deer of that size!! Anyone that thinks hunting over "bait" is easy, hasn't done it!

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from MLH wrote 2 years 8 weeks ago

I have no problem with hunting bear over bait or with dogs ... where it is legal. Issue is that it is not legal in PA and this guy was breaking the law. That and the moronic way he went about it reflects badly on all hunters.

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from mwmrtn wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

Whats the difference if he was hunting in an apple orchard!!!is that baiting?? or hunting in a food plot for deer?? Pa and their baiting laws!!! They bait bears else where. Total BS !

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from Jere Smith wrote 2 years 8 weeks ago

What a PUTZ!

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from bjohnston wrote 2 years 8 weeks ago

MWMRTN, just because you have an issue with a law, doesn't mean it's ok to break the law. If baiting is what you like to do, go where it's legal. Same thing with hunting with hounds, not legal in PA but there are places it is. There are proper channels to go through to change laws, just ignoring them makes you a criminal. I believe it when you say baiting isn't easy, but in PA it is illegal.

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from mwmrtn wrote 2 years 8 weeks ago

There is such a wide variance/extremes when it come to these laws and how it is interpreted , that you could be in violation at anytime.I am, all for rules/seasons and laws to protect wildlife/resources. Example: Shoot a deer/or bear in a old/overgrown/abandon fruit orchard is this baiting??? It very well could be construed that way.I think the laws pertaining to what is considered baiting need to be revamped.

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from peter wrote 2 years 8 weeks ago

i live close, in luzerne county and someone baiting so close gets me pissed. huntin right around there leagslly and not gettin anything while someone cheats and gets a trophy

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from Jim in Mo wrote 2 years 8 weeks ago

peter, you brought up a good point. You could be charged with hunting a baited area and you didn'teven know it was there.

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from JohnR wrote 2 years 8 weeks ago

I am staying away from any possibility of a baiting debate. Suffice it to say that some states allow it, some don't and his state is one of the don'ts.
If he is guilty, there are consequences and that is the law.
Just curious about how much weight the bear could have gained since July if it had eaten at McDonald's? :-)

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from gatorb8t wrote 2 years 8 weeks ago

If he is guilty,they should throw the book at him. A lifetime suspension not a few years. But what is the real proof to back up what they claim,did they see him hunting over the bait or are they just claiming this because of stomach contents? The area of Pa. where I bear hunt is surrounded by numerous farms. So, if a bear happens to have been in the corn the night before or raided our bird feeder and I would happen to shoot him going back up the mountain,was I hunt'n over bait. Our game officer's are so quick to condemn and charge, but will nothing to help a hunter when they need it.

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from abrege wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

I have no problems with baiting/dogs whatever. Just follow the laws for your area. If you break the law you are bringing negative attention to a sport that seems to never get any positive attention. It is guys like this that the anti's jump on and make us all look like a'holes

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from 1Shot2Kills wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Stop the bear baiting; it's cheap, and takes a good portion of the hunting and tracking aspect out of bear hunting!

http://www.bear-hunting.org

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from mwmrtn wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

Hopefully he gets a good legal council and sticks it to the Pa game "laws"!!!!

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