


January 11, 2010
Hunter's Dilemma: Which Buck Would You Take?
By Scott Bestul
My friend Bob is a very good bowhunter. He scouts exhaustively. Shoots continually. Hunts both hard and smart (and there is a difference). His trophy walls are proof of his skill and attention to detail; last time I was in there, I think Bob had close to 20 whitetails hanging that any hunter would be proud of.
So here’s the deal: For the last couple of seasons, Bob has known about a giant buck on property he has permission to hunt. Two years ago he passed the deer, knowing it had tremendous potential. Last fall the buck had made a big jump in antler growth and Bob was dialed into his early season patterns like a thief breaking a lock combination. Then an accident kept Bob out of the woods for much of the fall, unable to hunt the buck.
This past summer’s scouting revealed that the monster was not only back in familiar haunts, but bigger and better than ever; a keen judge of bucks-on-the-hoof, Robert felt this buck would gross-score over 200”. Naturally, Bob was back at his scouting mission and knew more about the buck than ever. But in addition to the mega-monster, there were two or three other bucks living on this farm that—in any other year—he would have been proud to kill. So as the season approached he faced a dilemma; should he hold out for what is surely the buck-of-a-lifetime? Or should he take the first opportunity to shoot a “lesser” deer…still a buck that may score 150” or better?
Well Bob had to face the question a lot earlier than even he thought. The first week of season, the most dominant buck on the farm showed up beneath his stand and he shot it. The buck scored 155” and is as clean and beautiful a 10-point as you can find. Two months later, a hunter on the neighboring property shot the Big Kahuna….Which, by the way, grossed just over 200”. That’s Bob holding the rack of a buck he knew very well, but one that he didn’t tag.
So what would you do if you were in my friend’s boots? Hold out for the mega-giant, or take the first buck you’d be proud of? Anxious to hear your thoughts!
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With years invested I would hold out. The others are safe on the farm.
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush!!! I would have taken a deer that I felt was quality for the area, and for my personal standards. If it was meant to happen, that 200 incher would have been standing where the 150 incher he shot was standing. On the other hand, if I had enough property to hold the 200 inch buck, and enough time to hunt him propertly, maybe I would wait.
I have only been fortunate to get one very good buck but in my limited experience there are so many factors to getting a big buck that I think you have to take EVERY opportunity that presents itself. The first priority is there has to be a large buck in the area. Once you know of one it would seem to me you apply all of your resources into getting him especially under these two conditions of the story. 1.) He wasn't a rookie looking for his first large buck experience He's obviously bagged many large bucks and it sounds like the one he bagged was just another on the wall. He needn't play the percentages. 2.)He wasn't a meat hunter just looking to fill the freezer. While it's true any good buck is something to be proud of I can't see anyway I would let that opportunity slide. But hey that's just me.
Tough call, If he had waited the neighbor may have still shot the 200 before him. Congratulations to both hunters.
After all the effort it sounds like Bob put in, I'd have likely tried to hold out at least most of the season in hopes of shooting the Big'un, especially after not getting a chance to hunt him the year before. However, it is easy to say that here, but when you have a nice buck presenting a shot, it's a different game.
I'd buy more tags.
yrs-
Evan!
I pick 1-2 deer a year and they are the only ones I will shoot. Unless something unseen that is larger comes along. The bucks that I choose are simply the biggest in the area I have seen scouting and not necessarily trophies. I am aware that booners do not walk in every woods so sometimes you take what you can get.
Yes, I would pass on a 150 if there was a 200 inch buck in the area. You may have to pass that 150 several times to get a shot at the 200.
Yesterday I passed 6 bucks for 3 other bucks that just skirted out of range(they were 130 yds. I have a 100 yd limit) while muzzleloader hunting in Ohio. Needless to day it was a good day to be in the stand.
I would pinch myself first because the only way I am going to see a 200inch deer where I live and with my hunting budget I must be dreaming. I would also say be glad to have such problems and don't refer to it a dilemma because well calling it an issue whether to take a 150inch sure thing or hope for a 200 just ticks me off. I would say most of us will gladly take over your lease if such problems arise again.
I would have tried to kill the big one. He'd invested that much time in him already and until I'd heard someone else had killed him, I would've kept on. You said he had a wall full of trophies, why not wait on the big one?
depends on the variables. am i seeing the big one but not getting a shot off? is it late in the season? am i a patient person?
It sounds as if he had already taken a 150 class buck or tow. If I were that dialed into the big boy I'd have to wait him out.
I'll never tag the big one unless it's the first one under my stand.
I'dve taken the 10 too. Holding out sounds easy in front of a computer, but in a bow-stand, a nice 10 is a nice 10. That was a monster though, wow!
Definetly the monster buck! Even though the smaller bucks were nice, i would have waited for the monster to come in since i had been chasing it for years.
That's a good problem to have.
I couldn't make myself pass up a 10 point. I might think differently if I had 20 trophies on the wall, but it would still be hard to do.
Its a tough call but if I had 20 or so deer mounted on the wall I think I would hold out for the monster so as to add another one to the trophy room. Especially if I have been hunting that particular deer for a few years
a buck is no different than the bird in the hand . i would rather tag a smaller buck and have meat, than chew on a tag all winter .
In 50 years of whitetail hunting I have followed both strategies, no matter what you do it is still excellent. I hunt for the experience as well as the deer.
Although in MS the limit is 3 bucks, this season I have let several smaller bucks walk while I am still waiting on a large buck I know is in the area
If I get to the end of the season without a buck, I will still have had a fine season.
that much time and efert i would have held out for the big one and if it got real late in the season then take the other one
Boy he sure doesn't look happy.
If I had all those bucks hanging on my wall I would have been patient and held out for the big guy. With those genes in the area it's likely he'll have another opportunity to harvest a giant(200 inch) somewhere down the road, or so I'm guessing he hopes.
Like so many others, I'm glad this wasn't my call...and no matter what I say while sitting on the comfort of my office might come out differently at camp. With an availability of antlerless tags and bow season for the freezer I would say, "go for it!". Either decision is ethical, and honorable. Botom-line, this man's relationship with an extraordinary animal is a great story and experience. If it was so easy we could win all the time, it wouldn't be so exciting. Testing our abilities against smart,experienced 'giants'is always a great way to go.
I'd say after 20 sum bucks,scoring in the 150's ,your train of thought might change somewhat.A wall for 200's? They must be around,with a gene pool in area.
I've did the same thing this year, so I know what I'd do. The buck is either on the hit list or not on the hit list. I don't believe there will ever come a day when I pass a 150", but God bless the men who do!
I, not "I've" :)
I have a nice 8 Pt & a nice 11 Pt, now I only shoot to fill the freezer, having said that, IF a huge atypical rack walks in front of me he's down!
Same scenario here in Kentucky. I hunt a particular buck,who by the way, hangs out with other bucks who pass the 150" mark.
It's kind of like going into a UDF,(United Dairy Farmers,ice cream)store. I go in there to get one ice cream flavor... Peach. But , as I look at "all" of the flavors, they become more inticing. If I'm not committed to "peach" I'll hesitate and even change my mind.
Just like in the woods,the time to be committed isn't in your tree stand/UDF ... it's before you get to the temptation that allows one to have favorable winds of opportunity to blow his way.
I would have let the 155" inch walk,as I have plenty of times. He would have been a 170" or better on his way to 200" the following year. To me, Robert's way of thinking changed from one year to the next, as he let the 200" walk for 2-seasons to gain the inches of bone growth.
When Bob shot the 155" buck, that took him immediately out of the 200 plus inch, gene gathering pool, and from the way the story reads, he had 2-months to pursue his quest for the real, "bigger and better" Genetic Giant!
Perhaps the real culprit here is Roberts accident. His injury possibly dictated that he pursue any "lesser" buck with quality proportions, causing him not to be so committed in his pursuit of the real Genetic Giant. After all, proof of desire is pursuit!
Bob settled for the temptation of the "lesser" deer ...still, he didn't have to eat his tag.
The one and only real question is: Is Bob satisfied with the 155"? Personally, I would feel frustrated that I settled for second best and the "lesser" buck.
Killem all and let GOD fill ou the tags !!!
i would probably pass up the ten and try and wait it out for the big bruiser but when your in that stand and you havent seen anything in a while and than all of the sudden a 150 class ten is under your stand i would find it hard to pass him up.
If I based my decision on the luck I have, I would take the 150" because I may never see the 200". But if it is on my land and I can hunt it anytime I want, I would wait for the 200"
I am only a teenager but have managed deer since I started hunting our farm. I let the 150's walk and took the big boy's or settled for a doe. I would of waited the season out for the big boy.
Be PROUD of what the good LORD gives you !
tough having never shot a 130 class buck yet i pass on small bucks 4s and 6s for bucks i know or don't know are in the area i passed on couple good chances to even shoot a doe this year having never shot a deer with a bow to hold out for a big buck i knew would show up eventually he did following 1 of the does i passed on didn't get a shot but thats all apart of management it for it to be extraordinary you have to do things you wouldn't normally do.
Cant hardly pass them 150 inch deer even knowing there is something bigger around. I have a couple good spots where ive seen some monsters, but when the opportunity arises so does my blood and then its usually all over. Ive killed several 140-155 inch deer and will continue still.
I'm with vtbluegrass. This would be the best dilemma I've ever been in hunting. I don't have that problem.. but from the sounds of this guy's trophy wall and the time he puts in HE should have waited. I wouldn't of, but HE should have.
it's early in the season being as dedicated as he was to this buck think of how proud you would feel after taking a deer of that size and ammount of time you put into hunting and scouting. I think as the season progressed I would've been fine with killing a decent buck but in those early stages the big ones are real easy to pattern and I would've waited.
If the buck that came to me first was a trophy to me then I would take the shot. There is nothing to say that he would have gotten a shot at the bigger buck.
id take what was there you never know what can happen in the future no gurantees and besides it would have been nice to see him get even bigger haha thats my oppinion
It depends on wether the 10 point under me was unique in some way or larger than what I already had on the wall. If I had multiple doe tags and 1 buck tag I would wait till the big boy showed even at the risk of not taking another buck. I am basically a meat hunter and won't take a big buck unless he is better than what I have already put on the wall.
Nothing against your buddy's decision; but, I would have held out for "Mr. Big." It would have been more than just one more trophy on the wall. It sounds like it would have bee that one special trophy that everyone really wants to get at some point.
I would have held out at least for a couple weeks just to see how things played out. Thats a magnificent buck though. What State is Bob lucky enough to be hunting in? Bucks very seldom get that big down here in VA
Here in NY its likely that I will never see a 200 class deer. Having said that, I always go by my immediate reaction when I see the buck. If you have to take time to think about whether or not to shoot the deer, then there is no sense shooting it, because you will always be second guessing your decision. I have let plenty of real nice NY bucks pass by because they just didn't spark that special interest. I will never shoot a buck that I am not proud of shooting. Do your scouting and know what deer is a great representative of your area, because most of us dont hunt areas that produce the same monster bucks that you see being shot on t.v.
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A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush!!! I would have taken a deer that I felt was quality for the area, and for my personal standards. If it was meant to happen, that 200 incher would have been standing where the 150 incher he shot was standing. On the other hand, if I had enough property to hold the 200 inch buck, and enough time to hunt him propertly, maybe I would wait.
I would pinch myself first because the only way I am going to see a 200inch deer where I live and with my hunting budget I must be dreaming. I would also say be glad to have such problems and don't refer to it a dilemma because well calling it an issue whether to take a 150inch sure thing or hope for a 200 just ticks me off. I would say most of us will gladly take over your lease if such problems arise again.
I have only been fortunate to get one very good buck but in my limited experience there are so many factors to getting a big buck that I think you have to take EVERY opportunity that presents itself. The first priority is there has to be a large buck in the area. Once you know of one it would seem to me you apply all of your resources into getting him especially under these two conditions of the story. 1.) He wasn't a rookie looking for his first large buck experience He's obviously bagged many large bucks and it sounds like the one he bagged was just another on the wall. He needn't play the percentages. 2.)He wasn't a meat hunter just looking to fill the freezer. While it's true any good buck is something to be proud of I can't see anyway I would let that opportunity slide. But hey that's just me.
Tough call, If he had waited the neighbor may have still shot the 200 before him. Congratulations to both hunters.
After all the effort it sounds like Bob put in, I'd have likely tried to hold out at least most of the season in hopes of shooting the Big'un, especially after not getting a chance to hunt him the year before. However, it is easy to say that here, but when you have a nice buck presenting a shot, it's a different game.
I pick 1-2 deer a year and they are the only ones I will shoot. Unless something unseen that is larger comes along. The bucks that I choose are simply the biggest in the area I have seen scouting and not necessarily trophies. I am aware that booners do not walk in every woods so sometimes you take what you can get.
Yes, I would pass on a 150 if there was a 200 inch buck in the area. You may have to pass that 150 several times to get a shot at the 200.
Yesterday I passed 6 bucks for 3 other bucks that just skirted out of range(they were 130 yds. I have a 100 yd limit) while muzzleloader hunting in Ohio. Needless to day it was a good day to be in the stand.
I would have tried to kill the big one. He'd invested that much time in him already and until I'd heard someone else had killed him, I would've kept on. You said he had a wall full of trophies, why not wait on the big one?
It sounds as if he had already taken a 150 class buck or tow. If I were that dialed into the big boy I'd have to wait him out.
I couldn't make myself pass up a 10 point. I might think differently if I had 20 trophies on the wall, but it would still be hard to do.
a buck is no different than the bird in the hand . i would rather tag a smaller buck and have meat, than chew on a tag all winter .
In 50 years of whitetail hunting I have followed both strategies, no matter what you do it is still excellent. I hunt for the experience as well as the deer.
Although in MS the limit is 3 bucks, this season I have let several smaller bucks walk while I am still waiting on a large buck I know is in the area
If I get to the end of the season without a buck, I will still have had a fine season.
Same scenario here in Kentucky. I hunt a particular buck,who by the way, hangs out with other bucks who pass the 150" mark.
It's kind of like going into a UDF,(United Dairy Farmers,ice cream)store. I go in there to get one ice cream flavor... Peach. But , as I look at "all" of the flavors, they become more inticing. If I'm not committed to "peach" I'll hesitate and even change my mind.
Just like in the woods,the time to be committed isn't in your tree stand/UDF ... it's before you get to the temptation that allows one to have favorable winds of opportunity to blow his way.
I would have let the 155" inch walk,as I have plenty of times. He would have been a 170" or better on his way to 200" the following year. To me, Robert's way of thinking changed from one year to the next, as he let the 200" walk for 2-seasons to gain the inches of bone growth.
When Bob shot the 155" buck, that took him immediately out of the 200 plus inch, gene gathering pool, and from the way the story reads, he had 2-months to pursue his quest for the real, "bigger and better" Genetic Giant!
Perhaps the real culprit here is Roberts accident. His injury possibly dictated that he pursue any "lesser" buck with quality proportions, causing him not to be so committed in his pursuit of the real Genetic Giant. After all, proof of desire is pursuit!
Bob settled for the temptation of the "lesser" deer ...still, he didn't have to eat his tag.
The one and only real question is: Is Bob satisfied with the 155"? Personally, I would feel frustrated that I settled for second best and the "lesser" buck.
With years invested I would hold out. The others are safe on the farm.
I'd buy more tags.
yrs-
Evan!
depends on the variables. am i seeing the big one but not getting a shot off? is it late in the season? am i a patient person?
I'll never tag the big one unless it's the first one under my stand.
I'dve taken the 10 too. Holding out sounds easy in front of a computer, but in a bow-stand, a nice 10 is a nice 10. That was a monster though, wow!
Definetly the monster buck! Even though the smaller bucks were nice, i would have waited for the monster to come in since i had been chasing it for years.
That's a good problem to have.
Its a tough call but if I had 20 or so deer mounted on the wall I think I would hold out for the monster so as to add another one to the trophy room. Especially if I have been hunting that particular deer for a few years
that much time and efert i would have held out for the big one and if it got real late in the season then take the other one
Like so many others, I'm glad this wasn't my call...and no matter what I say while sitting on the comfort of my office might come out differently at camp. With an availability of antlerless tags and bow season for the freezer I would say, "go for it!". Either decision is ethical, and honorable. Botom-line, this man's relationship with an extraordinary animal is a great story and experience. If it was so easy we could win all the time, it wouldn't be so exciting. Testing our abilities against smart,experienced 'giants'is always a great way to go.
tough having never shot a 130 class buck yet i pass on small bucks 4s and 6s for bucks i know or don't know are in the area i passed on couple good chances to even shoot a doe this year having never shot a deer with a bow to hold out for a big buck i knew would show up eventually he did following 1 of the does i passed on didn't get a shot but thats all apart of management it for it to be extraordinary you have to do things you wouldn't normally do.
Boy he sure doesn't look happy.
If I had all those bucks hanging on my wall I would have been patient and held out for the big guy. With those genes in the area it's likely he'll have another opportunity to harvest a giant(200 inch) somewhere down the road, or so I'm guessing he hopes.
I'd say after 20 sum bucks,scoring in the 150's ,your train of thought might change somewhat.A wall for 200's? They must be around,with a gene pool in area.
I've did the same thing this year, so I know what I'd do. The buck is either on the hit list or not on the hit list. I don't believe there will ever come a day when I pass a 150", but God bless the men who do!
I, not "I've" :)
i would probably pass up the ten and try and wait it out for the big bruiser but when your in that stand and you havent seen anything in a while and than all of the sudden a 150 class ten is under your stand i would find it hard to pass him up.
If I based my decision on the luck I have, I would take the 150" because I may never see the 200". But if it is on my land and I can hunt it anytime I want, I would wait for the 200"
Be PROUD of what the good LORD gives you !
Cant hardly pass them 150 inch deer even knowing there is something bigger around. I have a couple good spots where ive seen some monsters, but when the opportunity arises so does my blood and then its usually all over. Ive killed several 140-155 inch deer and will continue still.
If the buck that came to me first was a trophy to me then I would take the shot. There is nothing to say that he would have gotten a shot at the bigger buck.
Here in NY its likely that I will never see a 200 class deer. Having said that, I always go by my immediate reaction when I see the buck. If you have to take time to think about whether or not to shoot the deer, then there is no sense shooting it, because you will always be second guessing your decision. I have let plenty of real nice NY bucks pass by because they just didn't spark that special interest. I will never shoot a buck that I am not proud of shooting. Do your scouting and know what deer is a great representative of your area, because most of us dont hunt areas that produce the same monster bucks that you see being shot on t.v.
I have a nice 8 Pt & a nice 11 Pt, now I only shoot to fill the freezer, having said that, IF a huge atypical rack walks in front of me he's down!
I am only a teenager but have managed deer since I started hunting our farm. I let the 150's walk and took the big boy's or settled for a doe. I would of waited the season out for the big boy.
I'm with vtbluegrass. This would be the best dilemma I've ever been in hunting. I don't have that problem.. but from the sounds of this guy's trophy wall and the time he puts in HE should have waited. I wouldn't of, but HE should have.
it's early in the season being as dedicated as he was to this buck think of how proud you would feel after taking a deer of that size and ammount of time you put into hunting and scouting. I think as the season progressed I would've been fine with killing a decent buck but in those early stages the big ones are real easy to pattern and I would've waited.
id take what was there you never know what can happen in the future no gurantees and besides it would have been nice to see him get even bigger haha thats my oppinion
It depends on wether the 10 point under me was unique in some way or larger than what I already had on the wall. If I had multiple doe tags and 1 buck tag I would wait till the big boy showed even at the risk of not taking another buck. I am basically a meat hunter and won't take a big buck unless he is better than what I have already put on the wall.
Nothing against your buddy's decision; but, I would have held out for "Mr. Big." It would have been more than just one more trophy on the wall. It sounds like it would have bee that one special trophy that everyone really wants to get at some point.
I would have held out at least for a couple weeks just to see how things played out. Thats a magnificent buck though. What State is Bob lucky enough to be hunting in? Bucks very seldom get that big down here in VA
Killem all and let GOD fill ou the tags !!!
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