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February 26, 2009

Cermele: Immune to Big Cat Fever

By Joe Cermele

Take a look at the photo above. It was shot by outdoor writer and my long-time friend Jeff Samsel on a recent trip to Virginia's James River. This cat was one of a few that helped Jeff and company rack up a one-day catfish weight total of 244 pounds. I urge you to check out his trip report and photo gallery in "Fighting the James River Blues."

I have to admit that I don't have much catfishing experience. Perhaps it's because catfishing isn't really part of the Northeast culture. My biggest ever was probably 10 pounds, and I caught it on a worm intended for trout at age nine.

I realize that fish like the ones in Jeff's story are monsters, but here's the way I see it: The take isn't that inspiring...they don't explode on topwaters or anything. The best fishing is often in dirty, murky water with a rod sitting in a holder. The tackle is brutally heavy.  And catfish are, well, kinda ugly if you ask me.

I'm not criticizing cafishing. What I'm trying to learn from you is, what's the appeal? Is it that they're good eating? The pure size? The fight? All of the above? Not long ago, you guys adamantly defended carp when Merwin asked this same question in a blog titled "Sell Me On Carp." So let's hear why you (and I should) love big old cats.

JC

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from VT Outdoorsman wrote 2 years 49 weeks ago

Cermele- I totally agree with you. Being from the Northeast as well, I dont target them, I just hook one every once in a while by accident. There is no appeal to cat-fishing to me. I look at them as a trash fish.

Now that I have basically bashed catfish fishing, I will say that I do respect anyone that does fish for them, and I appreciate the tradition involved. People have been fishing for them for ages and I am sure it is fun to those hooked on it.

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from TheEasternShore... wrote 2 years 49 weeks ago

catfish i think are the lazy mans fishing

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from dwaynez wrote 2 years 49 weeks ago

I live in Texas and catfishing is very big here, there are several reasons why it is so big.

First catfish are easily accessible and people of all ages have an opportunity to catch a good eating fish for the table or a trophy they can cherish for many years to come.

Second the cost of catfishing compared to bass fishing is less, you can get an average rod and reel combo and use some worms, grasshoppers, stinkbait, liver, etc to go after catfish and the cost is a lot less than buying spinnerbaits, rattletraps, crankbaits,etc.

Catfish are hard fighting fish that can grow very large. They put up a great fight and they can be caught on light tackle, or heavy tackle. But the key thing is they can be caught.

A lot of kids or people new to the sport of fishing get discouraged easily when they don't catch anything, catfish are easy to catch, and in abundant numbers, so your odds are pretty good when it comes to catching them.

I have high dollar equipment for the big boy cats, but I aalso have the cost effective equipment I use when I just want to catch a few eaters for the table.

Just my answer to your question.

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from buckhunter wrote 2 years 49 weeks ago

Catfisherman are a different breed. They stay out all night. They are the only ones who buy liver in the grocery store. They smell. They own a lawn chair. They are immune to mosquitos and they have big rods. I think theres a little catfisherman in all of us.

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from Jim in Mo wrote 2 years 49 weeks ago

dwaynez,
You said it all.
JC, All your descriptions and methods are also true. It's about being outside, on the water, and its fishing. Now, you mentioned ugly. That's the pot calling the kettle black, catfish don't hold a candle to some of those monsters from the abyss.

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from Joe_Cermele wrote 2 years 49 weeks ago

Alright. Good points all around. Being a striper guy, I can appreciate any fishery that requires one to fish all night, and Dwayne makes a good argument about easy catching and low cost. I'm one step closer to booking a catfish trip...

Jim...that's a low shot...but a smart one. You're right. I fully expected to get shot down on this post. That's why I posted it.

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from Alex Pernice th... wrote 2 years 49 weeks ago

The fights, and catching Gills or shad for bait is half the fun, and for the older guys, a beer and a chair.

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from driggs5454 wrote 2 years 49 weeks ago

I really like catfishing because i can bass fish at the same time all i have to do is set up the rod for cats and have some fun with the bass. Also, I like the pure size of the fish. There's nothing like seeing the rod almost fall in for any size cat. Here in GA, there's not much to do on hot summer days because it's too hot and humid to really expend any energy. I like how you can just sit back, relax, and goof around with your buddies while you still have a line out. Bass fishing gets too serious sometimes. I have had many days where I haven't caught a single thing but it was still a good day of fishing because of the people i do it with.

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from Jim in Mo wrote 2 years 49 weeks ago

Whoa Alex, a beer and a chair? Try doing a Palomar knot or the latest San Diego knot craze in a rocking boat.
Older guys? I resemble that remark!

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from Alex Pernice th... wrote 2 years 49 weeks ago

Fine make that a beer in a boat, while trying to tie a palomar knot in 60 pound test floro... and for me, anything over 25 is old right now, with me being 14 in all.

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from pumakitchen wrote 2 years 49 weeks ago

i live in Colorado and the catfish fishing isn't great here either but I still love it. The best thing about catfish is the noises they make when you've brought them in. They tell you how upset they are that you disturbed their all night buffet. Cats are also great because anybody can fish for them. Even my wife likes fishing for them, she doesn't have to wade the river rapids to catch them, and you never know what size fish you are going to bring in. I have caught a ten pounder 3 feet from where my buddy caught a 2 pounder five minutes earlier. Lastly catfish bait is anyfish bait. I have caught trout, walleye, bass, wipers, and crabs on catfish bait. I will agree it is the lazy mans fish, but I am willing to live with that.

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from MLH wrote 2 years 49 weeks ago

Joe - channel cat put up an incredible fight. Guided river boat trips are getting more popular and you are almost guaranteed to have fun ... and catch fish.

I saw a guy get a half inch deep gash in his palm from mishandling a pan size cat - ya gotta stay alert. Caught a yellow bull that was almost wider than it was long. That was one freaky looking fish.

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from Dominick wrote 2 years 49 weeks ago

I do a lot of cat fishing. I do enjoy it however I am limited to my fishing adventures. I manly fish for Cats, blue Gill and more recently bass. On Occasions I will pull in a Bow fin.

I do just what driggs5454 stated. I can cast a cat line and also fish for bass or brim at the same time.

So far My favorite fresh water meal is indeed a cat. I do however have a bass awaiting the grill in my freezer. He will be my first to eat. I have been releasing the rest.

I have not found cats to fight much, when pulling them in they do get a little aggressive only at or near the surface. The fight I find most people encounter at the pond or lake is bad bait bait and tackle choices that usually result in a lot of hits but no cat. Another trend i see is lost lines.

I have pulled in my share of someone else lost treasure. I think a lot of people use the same pole for all fish.

Bass put up a bigger and funer challenge to me.
Next time I go camping I thing I will Bass fish all day. At night when I Lay down I might set up a pole and periodically check it or just wait until morning.

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from fishjay40 wrote 2 years 49 weeks ago

I tend to agree with your arguement about catfish fishing. While they are they are rather appealing to eat, they are not the most exciting fish in the world to catch. My buddies and I call it the "easy way of fishing". All I feel you have to do is cast out a line and wait for a bite.

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from catfishclark10 wrote 2 years 49 weeks ago

dwaynez is right on everything he said. When I first started fishing I would fish for catfish because I knew I had a good chance at catching them, plus I wasnt made of money so I definatley could afford it. Catfish are also everywhere, so you can catch them anywhere. Catfish are delicious fried, and when catching them they put a pretty good fight up, even when there small, and you can definatley tell when you have a big one. Now what TheEasternShore said about lazy fishing can be true depending on who you are, otherwise I also like fishin for cats because I can RELAX in the evening after work or school. Also I like fishin at nite on a river for them because I see a lot of things I dont see often, like Big Bucks or Bats.

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from Alex Williams wrote 2 years 49 weeks ago

To be honest, i grew up fishing for catfish. Just being with my family at that time was worth every bit of the wait. When you hook on to a 20 pund catfish, i have not experienced anything more exhilarating. and they sure ain't bad after they are deep fried either :)

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from rrmont wrote 2 years 48 weeks ago

My brother and I grew up fishing for cats and now that we have gotten older we love it. We get a chance to go out and just visit about how much fun we had growing up and how life really seems to go much faster now. For those few hours that we get to do that it really seems that life slows down and we are kids again, of course there is still that competition that brothers will always have.

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from shane wrote 2 years 46 weeks ago

I know what you mean being from the northeast and all, even though I used to catch a lot of bullheads at our place on Wolf Lake near the Catskills. They never used to be something I would target specifically.

But then I moved to Marietta, OH. Just so happens to be on the corner of the Ohio and the Muskingum. Gee, I wonder if anybody drops one in after cats there.

Anyways, fishing for anything is fun. Open your mind. You already listed the reasons why people catfish. Just do it.

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from 12fielca wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

catfish are awesome, if you have ever pulled in a 20 pound cat on an ultralight reel, you know what i'm talkin about when i say it is the most fun that can be had on the water.

good luck and happy fishin'

Kentucky boy

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from dwaynez wrote 2 years 49 weeks ago

I live in Texas and catfishing is very big here, there are several reasons why it is so big.

First catfish are easily accessible and people of all ages have an opportunity to catch a good eating fish for the table or a trophy they can cherish for many years to come.

Second the cost of catfishing compared to bass fishing is less, you can get an average rod and reel combo and use some worms, grasshoppers, stinkbait, liver, etc to go after catfish and the cost is a lot less than buying spinnerbaits, rattletraps, crankbaits,etc.

Catfish are hard fighting fish that can grow very large. They put up a great fight and they can be caught on light tackle, or heavy tackle. But the key thing is they can be caught.

A lot of kids or people new to the sport of fishing get discouraged easily when they don't catch anything, catfish are easy to catch, and in abundant numbers, so your odds are pretty good when it comes to catching them.

I have high dollar equipment for the big boy cats, but I aalso have the cost effective equipment I use when I just want to catch a few eaters for the table.

Just my answer to your question.

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from driggs5454 wrote 2 years 49 weeks ago

I really like catfishing because i can bass fish at the same time all i have to do is set up the rod for cats and have some fun with the bass. Also, I like the pure size of the fish. There's nothing like seeing the rod almost fall in for any size cat. Here in GA, there's not much to do on hot summer days because it's too hot and humid to really expend any energy. I like how you can just sit back, relax, and goof around with your buddies while you still have a line out. Bass fishing gets too serious sometimes. I have had many days where I haven't caught a single thing but it was still a good day of fishing because of the people i do it with.

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from Alex Pernice th... wrote 2 years 49 weeks ago

Fine make that a beer in a boat, while trying to tie a palomar knot in 60 pound test floro... and for me, anything over 25 is old right now, with me being 14 in all.

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from Dominick wrote 2 years 49 weeks ago

I do a lot of cat fishing. I do enjoy it however I am limited to my fishing adventures. I manly fish for Cats, blue Gill and more recently bass. On Occasions I will pull in a Bow fin.

I do just what driggs5454 stated. I can cast a cat line and also fish for bass or brim at the same time.

So far My favorite fresh water meal is indeed a cat. I do however have a bass awaiting the grill in my freezer. He will be my first to eat. I have been releasing the rest.

I have not found cats to fight much, when pulling them in they do get a little aggressive only at or near the surface. The fight I find most people encounter at the pond or lake is bad bait bait and tackle choices that usually result in a lot of hits but no cat. Another trend i see is lost lines.

I have pulled in my share of someone else lost treasure. I think a lot of people use the same pole for all fish.

Bass put up a bigger and funer challenge to me.
Next time I go camping I thing I will Bass fish all day. At night when I Lay down I might set up a pole and periodically check it or just wait until morning.

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from catfishclark10 wrote 2 years 49 weeks ago

dwaynez is right on everything he said. When I first started fishing I would fish for catfish because I knew I had a good chance at catching them, plus I wasnt made of money so I definatley could afford it. Catfish are also everywhere, so you can catch them anywhere. Catfish are delicious fried, and when catching them they put a pretty good fight up, even when there small, and you can definatley tell when you have a big one. Now what TheEasternShore said about lazy fishing can be true depending on who you are, otherwise I also like fishin for cats because I can RELAX in the evening after work or school. Also I like fishin at nite on a river for them because I see a lot of things I dont see often, like Big Bucks or Bats.

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from Alex Williams wrote 2 years 49 weeks ago

To be honest, i grew up fishing for catfish. Just being with my family at that time was worth every bit of the wait. When you hook on to a 20 pund catfish, i have not experienced anything more exhilarating. and they sure ain't bad after they are deep fried either :)

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from VT Outdoorsman wrote 2 years 49 weeks ago

Cermele- I totally agree with you. Being from the Northeast as well, I dont target them, I just hook one every once in a while by accident. There is no appeal to cat-fishing to me. I look at them as a trash fish.

Now that I have basically bashed catfish fishing, I will say that I do respect anyone that does fish for them, and I appreciate the tradition involved. People have been fishing for them for ages and I am sure it is fun to those hooked on it.

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from buckhunter wrote 2 years 49 weeks ago

Catfisherman are a different breed. They stay out all night. They are the only ones who buy liver in the grocery store. They smell. They own a lawn chair. They are immune to mosquitos and they have big rods. I think theres a little catfisherman in all of us.

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from Jim in Mo wrote 2 years 49 weeks ago

dwaynez,
You said it all.
JC, All your descriptions and methods are also true. It's about being outside, on the water, and its fishing. Now, you mentioned ugly. That's the pot calling the kettle black, catfish don't hold a candle to some of those monsters from the abyss.

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from Joe_Cermele wrote 2 years 49 weeks ago

Alright. Good points all around. Being a striper guy, I can appreciate any fishery that requires one to fish all night, and Dwayne makes a good argument about easy catching and low cost. I'm one step closer to booking a catfish trip...

Jim...that's a low shot...but a smart one. You're right. I fully expected to get shot down on this post. That's why I posted it.

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from Alex Pernice th... wrote 2 years 49 weeks ago

The fights, and catching Gills or shad for bait is half the fun, and for the older guys, a beer and a chair.

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from Jim in Mo wrote 2 years 49 weeks ago

Whoa Alex, a beer and a chair? Try doing a Palomar knot or the latest San Diego knot craze in a rocking boat.
Older guys? I resemble that remark!

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from pumakitchen wrote 2 years 49 weeks ago

i live in Colorado and the catfish fishing isn't great here either but I still love it. The best thing about catfish is the noises they make when you've brought them in. They tell you how upset they are that you disturbed their all night buffet. Cats are also great because anybody can fish for them. Even my wife likes fishing for them, she doesn't have to wade the river rapids to catch them, and you never know what size fish you are going to bring in. I have caught a ten pounder 3 feet from where my buddy caught a 2 pounder five minutes earlier. Lastly catfish bait is anyfish bait. I have caught trout, walleye, bass, wipers, and crabs on catfish bait. I will agree it is the lazy mans fish, but I am willing to live with that.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from MLH wrote 2 years 49 weeks ago

Joe - channel cat put up an incredible fight. Guided river boat trips are getting more popular and you are almost guaranteed to have fun ... and catch fish.

I saw a guy get a half inch deep gash in his palm from mishandling a pan size cat - ya gotta stay alert. Caught a yellow bull that was almost wider than it was long. That was one freaky looking fish.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from fishjay40 wrote 2 years 49 weeks ago

I tend to agree with your arguement about catfish fishing. While they are they are rather appealing to eat, they are not the most exciting fish in the world to catch. My buddies and I call it the "easy way of fishing". All I feel you have to do is cast out a line and wait for a bite.

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from rrmont wrote 2 years 48 weeks ago

My brother and I grew up fishing for cats and now that we have gotten older we love it. We get a chance to go out and just visit about how much fun we had growing up and how life really seems to go much faster now. For those few hours that we get to do that it really seems that life slows down and we are kids again, of course there is still that competition that brothers will always have.

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from shane wrote 2 years 46 weeks ago

I know what you mean being from the northeast and all, even though I used to catch a lot of bullheads at our place on Wolf Lake near the Catskills. They never used to be something I would target specifically.

But then I moved to Marietta, OH. Just so happens to be on the corner of the Ohio and the Muskingum. Gee, I wonder if anybody drops one in after cats there.

Anyways, fishing for anything is fun. Open your mind. You already listed the reasons why people catfish. Just do it.

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from 12fielca wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

catfish are awesome, if you have ever pulled in a 20 pound cat on an ultralight reel, you know what i'm talkin about when i say it is the most fun that can be had on the water.

good luck and happy fishin'

Kentucky boy

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from TheEasternShore... wrote 2 years 49 weeks ago

catfish i think are the lazy mans fishing

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