


August 26, 2009
Bourjaily: Simple Test to Find Your Dominant Eye
By Philip Bourjaily
Today we have a test with no wrong answer.
Most introductions to shotgunning begin with the “master eye” test. You hold your arms straight out at eye level, fingers up, palms out, hands overlapping, leaving a small hole between the hands through which you sight a faraway object. Then you pull your hands back, keeping the object in sight, until they wind up over one eye or the other. That’s your master eye. If you pull your hands back over the other eye, the object you were looking at disappears. You can also keep you arms extended, sight the target with both eyes, then close one eye then the other. The object will seem to jump sideways out of sight when you close your dominant eye. Try it.
With luck, you will turn out to be right-eyed and right-handed or left-eyed and left-handed. However, you may be cross-dominant -- right-handed and left-eyed, for example. The best thing to do is learn to shoot from the dominant eye side. My older son, Gordon, is left-eyed and right handed. I taught him to shoot left handed from the beginning.
If you don’t want to switch sides, you can shoot with one eye shut, or use a small piece of tape on your shooting glasses positioned so it blocks just enough of your master eye’s vision that the other eye takes over.
I’ve given the master eye test to a lot of new shooters, and I’m learning there is not just right and left eyed dominance. Some people are both-eye dominant or “center dominant.” My younger son John is center dominant – when he does the eye test his hands wind up over the bridge of his nose, not over one his eyes, but it doesn’t affect his shooting. His friend Nicky, who just joined our high school trap club, is extremely center-dominant. If she puts the gun to her right shoulder, the gun blocks enough of her right eye’s vision that the left eye takes over, vice versa if she tries shooting left handed. The first time she shot I hadn’t figured this out yet, and she broke four targets out of about 100 (she liked shooting and wouldn’t stop). Next time, I tried making her shoot left handed, but that didn’t work any better than right handed. Then I put a small piece of masking tape over her glasses to block the left eye’s vision, and she started pounding targets. Last weekend, her third time shooting a shotgun, she broke a 20x25.
So, how did you all do? “Normal” dominant, cross-dominant or center dominant?
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I had no clue some people are both-eye dominant or center dominant, thats crazy! Im just happy im “Normal” dominant.
I just recently found out im Left eye dominnt, although I'm right handed. I've been shooting right handed all my life. Now I've got some adjusting to do.....
I'm left handed and shoot a rifle or shotgun left-handed/left eye dominant, but I shoot a bow right-handed/right eye dominant. I've never had any problems and it just came natural.
I am crossed up and have known and fought it for some time. I used tape at the range and close the eye when hunting. I wish I had been trained at a young age to shoot left handed because doing so now is an exercise in futility. Hell I can barely operate a tooth brush left handed.
I was always right eye/right hand dominant until about ten years ago. At that time my optometrist changed my contact lens to "mono-vision" meaning that, in my case, my left eye is for near vision and right eye for distant. This works for some people and not for others. I can read and still see at distance very well, but for some reason now my left eye is now the dominant eye. The eye doc is not sure why this is happening. If I remove my contact lens domination reverts back to the right eye. I also have another set of contact lens that I use to make the right eye see better for near with the left for distance. This set is when I am target shooting pistols, otherwise the front sight is not focused. Yeah it would be easier just to wear glasses but they tend to fog and get broken when you are around horses or snow skiing.
I am left eye dominate due to a childhood injury to my right eye. I started shooting left handed at about age 8 or 9, and it now comes as natural as breathing. Shooting left handed has also developed a certain degree of ambidextrous ability in a lot of other things I do. Pistols, even with two handed grip, I still handle right handed.
This is off-topic but I'm looking for guidance from fellow Gun Nuts.
So I bought a new rifle last November that continues to have a powdery white substance appear where the barrel screws into the receiver. I've cleaned it off several times, but it keeps "migrating" out of the joint. Yesterday the manufacturing replied to me, writing that it is "bluing salts" residue and that I might have to keep cleaning it for a while, but to not worry about it.
Not satisfied with that, I called the local shop where I purchased the rifle. Turns out they've had other owners ask the same thing, and the shop has been given the same answer from the company. However, the shop owner said he's seen the same thing in several rifle manufacturers the past couple of years, and he attributed this to manufacturers cutting cost by cutting back on the bluing post-wash process. I suspect the white powdery substance is potassium nitrate, but I don't know for sure.
My question to you is this: Can this be harmful or corrosive to my rife? Should I simply keep cleaning it out and oiling it, as advised, or should I pursue a different course of action?
By the way, I also bought a Weatherby last fall, and am happy to report there is no similar problem with it. My gun shop owner said he's had none of this powdery stuff show up in his Weatherby shipments, so kudos to that company.
Just hold one hand out in front of you with your thumb sticking up. Focus on something beyond it. Close one eye, then the other, and it'll tell you which eye is dominant.
I have a friend who lost an arm as a child to a farm accident, and he was blind in his dominant eye, but that sucker could shoot cross-handed, cross-eyed, one handed better than anyone I've ever seen.
Dang good at pool too!
Practice, practice, practice.
I'm right handed, left eye dominant. As a kid, I was taught to shoot right handed. Nobody checked my eye dominance & I didn't know any better. I just wondered why I couldn't break the habit of closing my left eye. I discovered this years ago but I didn't feel comfortable switching to shoot lefty. So I still close my left eye. I make it work.
This would all be easier if there were enough left-handed guns to go around. I became left eye dominant when my right eye was partially blinded, and unless you shoot an o/u, s x s, or single shot, there's not many shotguns out there for you. Even on the o/u's, etc. the stock is often wrong.
Interesting subject ,.. have known various individules of all the dominance,.
Shoot, play base ball, or golf enough and you will.
But you can train your self ,. I played a lot of base ball as a kid (only summer thing i could afford to do,.
Naturallay shoot right and am right handed ,. but also display some abidextrous simptoms
So when golfing and or swinging a bat it was south paw .
More power and better control.
Right eye dominant,.. learned to close right eye,. until I learned to have left eye control when doing lefty stuff,. and right when doing right handed stuff,.
Yup the mind is an amazing thing .
Even got so that in a pinch could shoot left too,. but,.never really liked it
Good one Mr Bourjailey
this is really a neat subject, and every hunter needs to read it. it could definitely help those out who seem to always "see the biggest deer with the biggest rack" but always seem to 'miss' him :)
I am a righty but shoot southpaw because my left eye is dominant. I started about 6 years ago and find myself doing a lot of things lefty. I prefer it in many ways, However , like crm3006 I still hold righty for pistols.
Phil, of possible interest to you personally: I was reading a book review by the author and critic Joseph Epstein in the Claremont Review of Books in which he refers in passing to the writer Mark Helprin's time at "the University of Iowa 30 years ago, where he was befriended by the now alas forgotten novelist Vance Bourjaily." If VB was a relative, you should appreciate this as praise by Epstein isn't given out indiscriminately.
Stacy --
VB is my dad. He'll turn 87 next month. I remember meeting Mark Helprin a few times when he was at Iowa.
I am right-handed but left-eye dominant. I always played guns as a boy and shot from my right shoulder because that's what felt the best. I also shoot pool left handed. I had to get used to shooting a Lee-Enfield 303 from my left shoulder, but finally started buying lefty rifles a few years ago.
It is worth the expense, wait, whatever, to have the right equipment. I wish I hadn't waited so long.
Almost all of the manufacturers make left-handed guns now. Remington even makes a youth-model 7-08 lefty rifle and some lefty shotguns too, as well as their new autoloader that is bottom-feed, bottom-eject. Can't go wrong with an Ithica 37 shotgun either.
focusfront-
Last I checked, Remington was still making the 870 in LH models. Also check the Guns America website for LH 1100s, the Model 37 Ithaca, and Brownells offers a left hand conversion safety for the Auto 5, which does not kick hulls into a left hand shooter's face. Hope some of this will help in your shooting endeavors.
crm
I started out shooting from my left shoulder, was what I meant to say.
well, i am right eyed dominate. and right handed. but my umcle Herb, was right handed, left eye dominate. he found it out the hard way when he shot my fathers 300 H&H magnum model 70 for the first time (which is a heck of a gun to shoot for the first gun you ever shot!) Herb was the youngest of my dads family, and my dad, was the oldest. there was 18 years between them. he about broke his nose on that deal. after someone figured out what had happened, he learned to shoot left handed. and turned out to be the best and most avid hunter in our family.
Your dominat eye can change also. I was right/right now I am left eye dominant. The eye doctor says it is not uncommon and has no iea what causes it to change. I still shoot righ/right and close one eye of use tape on my glasses over the lense of the dominant eye. A change is harder to deal with than a cross dominant eye problem.
I was explaining this test to my Dad one day, and we determined that he is cross dominant. Although he rarely shoots, he said it made a huge difference in his golf game, especially putting. I am right handed and right eye dominant, but as a photographer I can only shoot pictures using my left eye. Go figure.
when I started hunting I did a test like this that my dad showed me, but it was slightly different. Same outcome though.
I have a daughter who appears to be left eye dominant and right handed. She keeps trying to use her left eye shooting right handed. Might have to work on teaching her to shoot left handed. She fights me though. Maybe it will work itself out. Not a big push as of yet, she is 4 but does want a pink rifle already. Don't know if that is because of her older brother or that she really wants to shoot.
Vic
I am "inner eye" dominant. The biggest problem I have is wondering whether the bullet is moving towards the target, or if the target is moving towards the bullet.
I tried the test which at first had me confused as to how to position my hands, so I tried it with two pencils of the same length. I found they wound up on my nose, so I guess I am center dominant. While I can shoot a pistol with either left hand or right hand, I find I cannot shoot a rifle left handed nor a shotgun, unless it is a short barrel, pistol grip pump which I usually shoot from the hip or lower chest level. Going back to the pistol shooting, I found I can engage two targets accurately while shooting two pistols of the same size/type- in this case the Beretta 92F. If I deviate from size/weight/caliber with either hand, my right hand is dominant
I'm lefty/lefty. My wife is lefty/lefty. My son is lefty/righty. Isn't genetic recombination wonderful!
I have always shot rifles/shotguns left-handed. I can shoot pistols with either hand and use the left eye. I throw right handed though.
Vic ,. when their four ,..mostly they just wanna do what you want them to,. (mostly yuk yuk ) approval and attention ,is the name of that game.
But don't count out the idea that she wants to shoot
Who know maybe she;s the next olymic 100 meter champ .
My nephew just shy of 4 then ,.. had similar situation ,.it was christmass
Noticed him trying to take a picture ( with a little kodac camera) right handed with left eye .
Which still nearly puts me on the floor laughing.
Poor littel tyke fell down,. ( as in tipped right over) trying to recocile right hand orientation and left eye dominace ,. Jeeeeze !! that was funny .
You can moove here eithet way but ,.maybe suggest she close the dominant eye until what ever pea shooter shes using sits nicely into her little shoulder hollow,. then after she's comfrotable shooting and hitting targets
Have her try shooting with both eyes open. She still might be a littel young but if you make it fun and dont puch too hard ,. she;ll come along.
But also to reiterate,. if you told her you wanted her to learn to shoot whales with a 105 recoiless harpoon gun ,. as long as it was pink,or magenta .. she would want one
Becasue you wanted her to like it
Proverbs,
IF it is leftover from bluing then I'd worry, they use what are called corrosive salts, and anything called corrosive left in a critical area such as the barrel to receiver connection sounds like a bad thing to me.
Biggest question is exactly WHAT it is, if it's some kind of assembly lube or anti-seize compound then all would be fine. What worries me is that they aren't telling exactly what it is.
And only way to remove it completely would be to unscrew the barrel, clean thoroughly and re-assemble.
Which is not a fun job at best, and could mar the receiver or barrel or both at worst. Also alot of work for possibly nothing if it's truly nothing to worry about.
I'd start hounding the manufacturer about what it is myself, until I was satisfied it was safe. If you have doubts you could always return or sell the gun and buy from another mfg. who doesn't cut corners and then BS about what is wrong with their product.
Vic,
Either way don't question it! We need all the young shooters we can get!
I am cross dominant, right handed. Shoot right handed. After a while it starts to hurt, so I use a patch or tape over my glasses.
A nephew is too, but can´t close his left eye, so he started shooting lefty, and he is doing just fine with airguns.
A cousin has the same trouble, he needs to use his finger to close his left eye, and then it gets locked until he shoots.
Thank goodness that I'm right handed being that I was born blind in left eye. But my wife is both eye dominate and wrights left handed. She will shoot a pistol right handed/right eyed then switch to left handed/left eyed doen't matter to her she says. Rifle she will shoot mainly right handed unless she is in a position that it's more comfortable for her to shoot left handed. Fishing pole or bat same difference, but she will throw a ball right handed.
Normal dominant. Yawn, I'm so boring! :-)
I'm left eye dominant and shoot right handed and I've never had any problems shooting. The only time I ever shot left handed was this spring turkey hunting and the only way I could get a shot at a tom was switching to left handed. Needless to say I dropped the gobbler, but I don't ever want to shoot left handed again without a little more practice in the future.
I guess I am fortunant enough that I am "normal" being right handed and right eye dominant. I have a buddy who is right handed but left eye dominant and has learned to shoot both ways... a benefit that might come in handy in some hunting situations.
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Stacy --
VB is my dad. He'll turn 87 next month. I remember meeting Mark Helprin a few times when he was at Iowa.
I am crossed up and have known and fought it for some time. I used tape at the range and close the eye when hunting. I wish I had been trained at a young age to shoot left handed because doing so now is an exercise in futility. Hell I can barely operate a tooth brush left handed.
I am left eye dominate due to a childhood injury to my right eye. I started shooting left handed at about age 8 or 9, and it now comes as natural as breathing. Shooting left handed has also developed a certain degree of ambidextrous ability in a lot of other things I do. Pistols, even with two handed grip, I still handle right handed.
Just hold one hand out in front of you with your thumb sticking up. Focus on something beyond it. Close one eye, then the other, and it'll tell you which eye is dominant.
I have a friend who lost an arm as a child to a farm accident, and he was blind in his dominant eye, but that sucker could shoot cross-handed, cross-eyed, one handed better than anyone I've ever seen.
Dang good at pool too!
Practice, practice, practice.
Phil, of possible interest to you personally: I was reading a book review by the author and critic Joseph Epstein in the Claremont Review of Books in which he refers in passing to the writer Mark Helprin's time at "the University of Iowa 30 years ago, where he was befriended by the now alas forgotten novelist Vance Bourjaily." If VB was a relative, you should appreciate this as praise by Epstein isn't given out indiscriminately.
Proverbs,
IF it is leftover from bluing then I'd worry, they use what are called corrosive salts, and anything called corrosive left in a critical area such as the barrel to receiver connection sounds like a bad thing to me.
Biggest question is exactly WHAT it is, if it's some kind of assembly lube or anti-seize compound then all would be fine. What worries me is that they aren't telling exactly what it is.
And only way to remove it completely would be to unscrew the barrel, clean thoroughly and re-assemble.
Which is not a fun job at best, and could mar the receiver or barrel or both at worst. Also alot of work for possibly nothing if it's truly nothing to worry about.
I'd start hounding the manufacturer about what it is myself, until I was satisfied it was safe. If you have doubts you could always return or sell the gun and buy from another mfg. who doesn't cut corners and then BS about what is wrong with their product.
I had no clue some people are both-eye dominant or center dominant, thats crazy! Im just happy im “Normal” dominant.
I just recently found out im Left eye dominnt, although I'm right handed. I've been shooting right handed all my life. Now I've got some adjusting to do.....
I'm left handed and shoot a rifle or shotgun left-handed/left eye dominant, but I shoot a bow right-handed/right eye dominant. I've never had any problems and it just came natural.
I was always right eye/right hand dominant until about ten years ago. At that time my optometrist changed my contact lens to "mono-vision" meaning that, in my case, my left eye is for near vision and right eye for distant. This works for some people and not for others. I can read and still see at distance very well, but for some reason now my left eye is now the dominant eye. The eye doc is not sure why this is happening. If I remove my contact lens domination reverts back to the right eye. I also have another set of contact lens that I use to make the right eye see better for near with the left for distance. This set is when I am target shooting pistols, otherwise the front sight is not focused. Yeah it would be easier just to wear glasses but they tend to fog and get broken when you are around horses or snow skiing.
This is off-topic but I'm looking for guidance from fellow Gun Nuts.
So I bought a new rifle last November that continues to have a powdery white substance appear where the barrel screws into the receiver. I've cleaned it off several times, but it keeps "migrating" out of the joint. Yesterday the manufacturing replied to me, writing that it is "bluing salts" residue and that I might have to keep cleaning it for a while, but to not worry about it.
Not satisfied with that, I called the local shop where I purchased the rifle. Turns out they've had other owners ask the same thing, and the shop has been given the same answer from the company. However, the shop owner said he's seen the same thing in several rifle manufacturers the past couple of years, and he attributed this to manufacturers cutting cost by cutting back on the bluing post-wash process. I suspect the white powdery substance is potassium nitrate, but I don't know for sure.
My question to you is this: Can this be harmful or corrosive to my rife? Should I simply keep cleaning it out and oiling it, as advised, or should I pursue a different course of action?
By the way, I also bought a Weatherby last fall, and am happy to report there is no similar problem with it. My gun shop owner said he's had none of this powdery stuff show up in his Weatherby shipments, so kudos to that company.
I'm right handed, left eye dominant. As a kid, I was taught to shoot right handed. Nobody checked my eye dominance & I didn't know any better. I just wondered why I couldn't break the habit of closing my left eye. I discovered this years ago but I didn't feel comfortable switching to shoot lefty. So I still close my left eye. I make it work.
This would all be easier if there were enough left-handed guns to go around. I became left eye dominant when my right eye was partially blinded, and unless you shoot an o/u, s x s, or single shot, there's not many shotguns out there for you. Even on the o/u's, etc. the stock is often wrong.
Interesting subject ,.. have known various individules of all the dominance,.
Shoot, play base ball, or golf enough and you will.
But you can train your self ,. I played a lot of base ball as a kid (only summer thing i could afford to do,.
Naturallay shoot right and am right handed ,. but also display some abidextrous simptoms
So when golfing and or swinging a bat it was south paw .
More power and better control.
Right eye dominant,.. learned to close right eye,. until I learned to have left eye control when doing lefty stuff,. and right when doing right handed stuff,.
Yup the mind is an amazing thing .
Even got so that in a pinch could shoot left too,. but,.never really liked it
Good one Mr Bourjailey
this is really a neat subject, and every hunter needs to read it. it could definitely help those out who seem to always "see the biggest deer with the biggest rack" but always seem to 'miss' him :)
I am a righty but shoot southpaw because my left eye is dominant. I started about 6 years ago and find myself doing a lot of things lefty. I prefer it in many ways, However , like crm3006 I still hold righty for pistols.
I am right-handed but left-eye dominant. I always played guns as a boy and shot from my right shoulder because that's what felt the best. I also shoot pool left handed. I had to get used to shooting a Lee-Enfield 303 from my left shoulder, but finally started buying lefty rifles a few years ago.
It is worth the expense, wait, whatever, to have the right equipment. I wish I hadn't waited so long.
Almost all of the manufacturers make left-handed guns now. Remington even makes a youth-model 7-08 lefty rifle and some lefty shotguns too, as well as their new autoloader that is bottom-feed, bottom-eject. Can't go wrong with an Ithica 37 shotgun either.
focusfront-
Last I checked, Remington was still making the 870 in LH models. Also check the Guns America website for LH 1100s, the Model 37 Ithaca, and Brownells offers a left hand conversion safety for the Auto 5, which does not kick hulls into a left hand shooter's face. Hope some of this will help in your shooting endeavors.
crm
I started out shooting from my left shoulder, was what I meant to say.
well, i am right eyed dominate. and right handed. but my umcle Herb, was right handed, left eye dominate. he found it out the hard way when he shot my fathers 300 H&H magnum model 70 for the first time (which is a heck of a gun to shoot for the first gun you ever shot!) Herb was the youngest of my dads family, and my dad, was the oldest. there was 18 years between them. he about broke his nose on that deal. after someone figured out what had happened, he learned to shoot left handed. and turned out to be the best and most avid hunter in our family.
Your dominat eye can change also. I was right/right now I am left eye dominant. The eye doctor says it is not uncommon and has no iea what causes it to change. I still shoot righ/right and close one eye of use tape on my glasses over the lense of the dominant eye. A change is harder to deal with than a cross dominant eye problem.
I was explaining this test to my Dad one day, and we determined that he is cross dominant. Although he rarely shoots, he said it made a huge difference in his golf game, especially putting. I am right handed and right eye dominant, but as a photographer I can only shoot pictures using my left eye. Go figure.
when I started hunting I did a test like this that my dad showed me, but it was slightly different. Same outcome though.
I have a daughter who appears to be left eye dominant and right handed. She keeps trying to use her left eye shooting right handed. Might have to work on teaching her to shoot left handed. She fights me though. Maybe it will work itself out. Not a big push as of yet, she is 4 but does want a pink rifle already. Don't know if that is because of her older brother or that she really wants to shoot.
Vic
I tried the test which at first had me confused as to how to position my hands, so I tried it with two pencils of the same length. I found they wound up on my nose, so I guess I am center dominant. While I can shoot a pistol with either left hand or right hand, I find I cannot shoot a rifle left handed nor a shotgun, unless it is a short barrel, pistol grip pump which I usually shoot from the hip or lower chest level. Going back to the pistol shooting, I found I can engage two targets accurately while shooting two pistols of the same size/type- in this case the Beretta 92F. If I deviate from size/weight/caliber with either hand, my right hand is dominant
I'm lefty/lefty. My wife is lefty/lefty. My son is lefty/righty. Isn't genetic recombination wonderful!
I have always shot rifles/shotguns left-handed. I can shoot pistols with either hand and use the left eye. I throw right handed though.
Vic,
Either way don't question it! We need all the young shooters we can get!
I am cross dominant, right handed. Shoot right handed. After a while it starts to hurt, so I use a patch or tape over my glasses.
A nephew is too, but can´t close his left eye, so he started shooting lefty, and he is doing just fine with airguns.
A cousin has the same trouble, he needs to use his finger to close his left eye, and then it gets locked until he shoots.
Thank goodness that I'm right handed being that I was born blind in left eye. But my wife is both eye dominate and wrights left handed. She will shoot a pistol right handed/right eyed then switch to left handed/left eyed doen't matter to her she says. Rifle she will shoot mainly right handed unless she is in a position that it's more comfortable for her to shoot left handed. Fishing pole or bat same difference, but she will throw a ball right handed.
Normal dominant. Yawn, I'm so boring! :-)
I'm left eye dominant and shoot right handed and I've never had any problems shooting. The only time I ever shot left handed was this spring turkey hunting and the only way I could get a shot at a tom was switching to left handed. Needless to say I dropped the gobbler, but I don't ever want to shoot left handed again without a little more practice in the future.
I guess I am fortunant enough that I am "normal" being right handed and right eye dominant. I have a buddy who is right handed but left eye dominant and has learned to shoot both ways... a benefit that might come in handy in some hunting situations.
I am "inner eye" dominant. The biggest problem I have is wondering whether the bullet is moving towards the target, or if the target is moving towards the bullet.
Vic ,. when their four ,..mostly they just wanna do what you want them to,. (mostly yuk yuk ) approval and attention ,is the name of that game.
But don't count out the idea that she wants to shoot
Who know maybe she;s the next olymic 100 meter champ .
My nephew just shy of 4 then ,.. had similar situation ,.it was christmass
Noticed him trying to take a picture ( with a little kodac camera) right handed with left eye .
Which still nearly puts me on the floor laughing.
Poor littel tyke fell down,. ( as in tipped right over) trying to recocile right hand orientation and left eye dominace ,. Jeeeeze !! that was funny .
You can moove here eithet way but ,.maybe suggest she close the dominant eye until what ever pea shooter shes using sits nicely into her little shoulder hollow,. then after she's comfrotable shooting and hitting targets
Have her try shooting with both eyes open. She still might be a littel young but if you make it fun and dont puch too hard ,. she;ll come along.
But also to reiterate,. if you told her you wanted her to learn to shoot whales with a 105 recoiless harpoon gun ,. as long as it was pink,or magenta .. she would want one
Becasue you wanted her to like it
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