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February 17, 2009

Hatchery Fish: The Weakest Link

By Tim Romano

What do you know? Pellet fed blobs don't fair so well in the real world. Kinda like people...

Not that I really needed any hard scientific evidence to back it up but a recent story in the Winter 2009 issue of Trout Magazine and the original study done by Oregon State University in Evolutionary Applications found that the "loss of fitness - a measure of how many fish reach spawning age and successfully reproduce - can be as much as 30 percent less in one generation" for hatchery raised fish compared to their wild counterparts.

Well, Duh... Hatchery fish suck. They're fat, weak fighters and taste like crap if you ask me. To be perfectly honest I really can't eat them any more. 

This should be a wake up call to the state and federal agencies who subscribe to the practice of propping up diminishing native fish numbers with hatchery fish and hoodwinking the public that their streams are healthy viable ecosystems.

If they keep doing this long term all we're gonna have is pen raised nastiness and children a generation from now sitting around the campfire will ask why there's no color, liveliness, or spunk to their "little" trout. 

TR

 

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from Ramcatt wrote 3 years 14 weeks ago

looks like a genetic defect...
little beedy eyes
stunted facial features
little pellet mouth
bloated

and the hatchery pellet head is a mess too....

honestly why do all grip-n-grins have some dood with a kentucky waterfall looking like he has a turtle head poking out? all while holding his raceway trophy with fully extended arms

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from Evan V wrote 3 years 14 weeks ago

Around here, we don't have any natural trout reproduction, so stocking is what we get. But the trout that do stay all summer grow back their fins, gain a dark green color, and become more vigilant.

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from jamesti wrote 3 years 14 weeks ago

because we have no fish and game to speak of in colorado to keep people from destroying our stocks of natural fish, we will soon have to rely solely on hatchery fish. all the lakes in my area have been devastated by people who have to keep everything they catch and in two years, i have yet to ever see one fish and game officer anywhere checking tags or limits!

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from Ramcatt wrote 3 years 14 weeks ago

ahh the romantiziation of trout...

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from chadlove wrote 3 years 14 weeks ago

Tim, I don't recall giving you permission to use a photograph of me on your blog.

And for your information, that 'aint no Kentucky waterfall, it's an Oklahoma neck blanket and it looks damn good blowing in the wind when I'm cruising with the T-tops off the 'ol Firebird.

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from Mike Kaptur wrote 3 years 14 weeks ago

God bless Montana... The only stocked fish around here are in the kiddy ponds. FWP's focus on restoring habitat instead of stocking has paid off in a huge way. I'll take a wild 20 inch cutty over that pig pond rainbow anyday.

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from Jim in Mo wrote 3 years 14 weeks ago

You sound rather snobbish to me.

Chad Love, update your blog pic immediately.

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from timromano wrote 3 years 14 weeks ago

pardon chad, may I have permission to show you and your "neck blanket" in all it's glory?

I gotta agree with Mike. Hell - give me a 12 inch native cutty or whatever might swim in my geographical location natively rather than planted trout.

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from chadlove wrote 3 years 14 weeks ago

I guess so, Tim, now that the secret's out.

But after I sanded out the Bondo on my Firebird's hood I was going to have this pic airbrushed on it so I could drag the high school parking lot in style and well, you kinda ruined it for me, didn't 'ya?

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from Sportsman Matt wrote 3 years 14 weeks ago

I have a belief that if there isn't a population of trout due to civilization created problems, that they should first clean up the mess, then use a hatchery to replenish the lost population to get it started. unfortunately most of these F&W guys look at it as "If we keep stocking it, the fish population will grow larger" while also thinking "more trout stocking equals more overtime"

I watch the state and feds stock the Millers River every spring, first week or two of May they stock Browns and Rainbows, then the last week they stock Atlantic Salmon fry in the same places as the Browns and Rainbows.

best part is the Federal guys are happy to see that out of the million fry they stocked, only 3 make it 50 miles downstream to the fish ladder on the Connecticut River where the Striped Bass are waiting from the Atlantic.

And they wonder why there are no returning Atlantic Salmon is the Millers River.

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from Wags wrote 3 years 14 weeks ago

Wow...how did we get to neck blankets, bondo, and firebirds. It's like I'm at a high school reunion!! Tim, I agree with you, especially in rivers that naturally have trout populations. I'm in the "improve habitat and regs" crowd, although sometimes that side can go a little overboard as well. I'm a little surprised to hear this is such an issue in Colorado. I didn't realize that there was so much stocking in CO.

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from chadlove wrote 3 years 14 weeks ago

Firebirds and mullets aside, I'm sort of on the fence when it comes to stocked fish. Yes it's an abomination if you're in Colorado or Montana but obviously Oklahoma isn't trout territory, so if we want trout it's stockers or nothing.
And I can say from personal experience that stockers, given enough time to adapt, do indeed become something approximating real trout, at least to a flatlander.

For example, last year our wildlife department verified natural reproduction in both rainbows and browns in the Lower Mountain Fork river, which is a fantastic year-round tailrace fishery in SE Oklahoma.
The problem is, the LMF gets so much pressure from a three-state area that there really isn't any choice but to continue stocking hatchery trout to meet that demand.

There are some barbless artificial-only zones where those hatchery trout have a chance to go wild, but my rambling point is, for a large chunk of the country hatchery trout are the only option. I guess the difference lies in if your state approaches it from a Powerbait-dunking perspective or a quality fishing experience perspective.

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from dwaynez wrote 3 years 13 weeks ago

I prefer wild all the way, the hatchery fish are big but as stated above they don't have the taste or the fight of a wild fish, it takes all the fun out of it.

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from Charley wrote 3 years 13 weeks ago

Next door in Utah, our hatcheries are starting to pump out more and more tiger trout. A beautiful fish that is full of spunk and liveliness.

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from tristen wrote 3 years 13 weeks ago

i agree, the fish are big and all but they dont give a big enough fight and they taste horible.. i think that they need to just make a huge lake and just put all the fish in there. and i agree with the other people, they have to small of a mouth.. and i also cant really eat creek fish to because how much polution in the water it tastes horible..
but nice catch by the way.

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from Jim in Mo wrote 3 years 13 weeks ago

A real fisherman is like a junkie. If he needs a fix, an aquarium looks good to him.

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from jamesti wrote 3 years 14 weeks ago

because we have no fish and game to speak of in colorado to keep people from destroying our stocks of natural fish, we will soon have to rely solely on hatchery fish. all the lakes in my area have been devastated by people who have to keep everything they catch and in two years, i have yet to ever see one fish and game officer anywhere checking tags or limits!

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from chadlove wrote 3 years 14 weeks ago

Tim, I don't recall giving you permission to use a photograph of me on your blog.

And for your information, that 'aint no Kentucky waterfall, it's an Oklahoma neck blanket and it looks damn good blowing in the wind when I'm cruising with the T-tops off the 'ol Firebird.

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from Mike Kaptur wrote 3 years 14 weeks ago

God bless Montana... The only stocked fish around here are in the kiddy ponds. FWP's focus on restoring habitat instead of stocking has paid off in a huge way. I'll take a wild 20 inch cutty over that pig pond rainbow anyday.

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from Ramcatt wrote 3 years 14 weeks ago

looks like a genetic defect...
little beedy eyes
stunted facial features
little pellet mouth
bloated

and the hatchery pellet head is a mess too....

honestly why do all grip-n-grins have some dood with a kentucky waterfall looking like he has a turtle head poking out? all while holding his raceway trophy with fully extended arms

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Evan V wrote 3 years 14 weeks ago

Around here, we don't have any natural trout reproduction, so stocking is what we get. But the trout that do stay all summer grow back their fins, gain a dark green color, and become more vigilant.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Ramcatt wrote 3 years 14 weeks ago

ahh the romantiziation of trout...

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Jim in Mo wrote 3 years 14 weeks ago

You sound rather snobbish to me.

Chad Love, update your blog pic immediately.

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from timromano wrote 3 years 14 weeks ago

pardon chad, may I have permission to show you and your "neck blanket" in all it's glory?

I gotta agree with Mike. Hell - give me a 12 inch native cutty or whatever might swim in my geographical location natively rather than planted trout.

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from chadlove wrote 3 years 14 weeks ago

I guess so, Tim, now that the secret's out.

But after I sanded out the Bondo on my Firebird's hood I was going to have this pic airbrushed on it so I could drag the high school parking lot in style and well, you kinda ruined it for me, didn't 'ya?

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Sportsman Matt wrote 3 years 14 weeks ago

I have a belief that if there isn't a population of trout due to civilization created problems, that they should first clean up the mess, then use a hatchery to replenish the lost population to get it started. unfortunately most of these F&W guys look at it as "If we keep stocking it, the fish population will grow larger" while also thinking "more trout stocking equals more overtime"

I watch the state and feds stock the Millers River every spring, first week or two of May they stock Browns and Rainbows, then the last week they stock Atlantic Salmon fry in the same places as the Browns and Rainbows.

best part is the Federal guys are happy to see that out of the million fry they stocked, only 3 make it 50 miles downstream to the fish ladder on the Connecticut River where the Striped Bass are waiting from the Atlantic.

And they wonder why there are no returning Atlantic Salmon is the Millers River.

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from Wags wrote 3 years 14 weeks ago

Wow...how did we get to neck blankets, bondo, and firebirds. It's like I'm at a high school reunion!! Tim, I agree with you, especially in rivers that naturally have trout populations. I'm in the "improve habitat and regs" crowd, although sometimes that side can go a little overboard as well. I'm a little surprised to hear this is such an issue in Colorado. I didn't realize that there was so much stocking in CO.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from chadlove wrote 3 years 14 weeks ago

Firebirds and mullets aside, I'm sort of on the fence when it comes to stocked fish. Yes it's an abomination if you're in Colorado or Montana but obviously Oklahoma isn't trout territory, so if we want trout it's stockers or nothing.
And I can say from personal experience that stockers, given enough time to adapt, do indeed become something approximating real trout, at least to a flatlander.

For example, last year our wildlife department verified natural reproduction in both rainbows and browns in the Lower Mountain Fork river, which is a fantastic year-round tailrace fishery in SE Oklahoma.
The problem is, the LMF gets so much pressure from a three-state area that there really isn't any choice but to continue stocking hatchery trout to meet that demand.

There are some barbless artificial-only zones where those hatchery trout have a chance to go wild, but my rambling point is, for a large chunk of the country hatchery trout are the only option. I guess the difference lies in if your state approaches it from a Powerbait-dunking perspective or a quality fishing experience perspective.

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from dwaynez wrote 3 years 13 weeks ago

I prefer wild all the way, the hatchery fish are big but as stated above they don't have the taste or the fight of a wild fish, it takes all the fun out of it.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Charley wrote 3 years 13 weeks ago

Next door in Utah, our hatcheries are starting to pump out more and more tiger trout. A beautiful fish that is full of spunk and liveliness.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from tristen wrote 3 years 13 weeks ago

i agree, the fish are big and all but they dont give a big enough fight and they taste horible.. i think that they need to just make a huge lake and just put all the fish in there. and i agree with the other people, they have to small of a mouth.. and i also cant really eat creek fish to because how much polution in the water it tastes horible..
but nice catch by the way.

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from Jim in Mo wrote 3 years 13 weeks ago

A real fisherman is like a junkie. If he needs a fix, an aquarium looks good to him.

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