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May 13, 2009

Fishing with "Flyconelli"

By Kirk Deeter

Photo by Kirk Deeter

Some of the best fly fishers I know are bass anglers.  Likewise, some of the best bass anglers in the world are... you got it, fly fishers.  Yesterday I had an opportunity to hang out with B.A.S.S. pro Mike Iaconelli on Lake Guntersville in Alabama, and, just for grins, we decided to throw a "Cat" fly in the grass.  Had an absolute blast.  Let me tell you, Ike is darn fine caster.

Photo by Kirk Deeter

"I think fly fishing taught me a lot when I was younger, because it has so much to do with currents, and finding fish on currents, which is very important when you're bass fishing also," Ike said.  (By the way, he took 4th in the Elite Series event at Guntersville, last weekend). 

All of which got me thinking.  A dangerous thing, I know.

But if the fly industry wants to bust its slump... grow the base... recruit new anglers... it can do it with one bold move.  Put a million-dollar bonus on the table for anyone who can win a B.A.S.S. elite series event with a fly.  It might not happen in this generation.  But it will get the attention of the next generation. 

When I think that the genesis of flipping and pitching was a technique done by Dee Thomas with a 12-foot rod and no reel (sound a little like "flatwater Tenkara?"  More on that story later)... I have no doubt that a fly can flat out win a major bass event someday.  What's your bet?

Deeter

 

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from Fishing Jones wrote 3 years 1 week ago

I don't see why not. I've seen it with other species where on certain days the fish key in on flies and not lures or even bait, and the guys using fly rods catch most of the fish. Could happen over a 4-day tournament.

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from The Armchair Ou... wrote 3 years 1 week ago

Why not a fly-only tournament series? If there is such a thing for any species of fish, I'd be interested to hear about it, although the idea of a fly fishing vest or waders covered with sponsor logos is somehow just weird.

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from buckhunter wrote 3 years 1 week ago

Oh yea. I'm riding my Tenkara rod all the way to the Bassmasters Classic. Step aside you cast and crankers, here comes the fly.

On a sad note, I broke my Tenkara last night while smallmouth fishing. I've never broke a rod in my life but that is 3 in less than a year. Hopefully that ends the streak.

Deet, Don't forget Ike finished second in the Classic this year.

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from Joseph Bishop wrote 3 years 1 week ago

So, Buckhunter, I guess we get to find out about that warranty on the Tenkara Rod. How did you break it on a smallie?

About winning a major Bass tourny with a fly, I think that it is possible, but the only way it is likely to happen is if there were a major bonus like that which Deeter is suggesting. I doubt they will do that unless some of the biggest manufactures get a little less elitist.

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from minigunner111 wrote 3 years 1 week ago

I don't think so.

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from buckhunter wrote 3 years 1 week ago

Jeepdude,

I was just fishing minding my own business when suddenly a grizzly bear charged from out of no where. To save a school bus load of children I hurled my Tenkara rod spear like...Wait, you want the truth don't you.

Well if the truth be told I'm an old man with poor eyesight. I was wet wading and the water was about 60 degrees and the air temp near 50. After a couple hours I was numb all over. Put all of that in the equation and you have one broken Tenkara rod. I did however prior to my non fishing related accident was able to hook and land several nice smallies with my Tenkara. The rods themselves are very tough.

By the way, I have 2 Wranglers and one Liberty in the family. I love Jeeps!

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from Koldkut wrote 3 years 1 week ago

Oh come on Deet, you're killing me with this one. I was talking with my wife about this one just two nights ago. One of these years I am going to take on that Lake Pleasant tourney and win it! Can it be done on the regular circuits, oh hell yes! I have plans on getting into the bass tourneys and throwing flies only. It's an underutilized bass whompin' technique!

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from ejunk wrote 3 years 1 week ago

I believe fly rods are currently illegal in the B.A.S.S. series, but legal in the FLW series. Also, I don't think a 12 foot rod is legal in either tournament series, which is why those bass rods Sage makes are 7'11". I think I read all of this in the pages of either Field and Stream or American Angler.

anyway, it seems totally likely that a fly angler could win one of these tournaments! it would take a pretty determined angler, but I for one believe it could be done.

yrs-
Evan!

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from Joseph Bishop wrote 3 years 1 week ago

Actually, buckhunter, I really liked where that first story was going, but thanks. Will you be looking at using the warranty on that rod?

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from Alex Pernice th... wrote 3 years 1 week ago

Hey Deeter, try to talk him into coming out my way for smallie fishing, he does that city limits fishing show and I bet he would like what he sees...

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from steve182 wrote 3 years 1 week ago

That guy's (ike)from Jersey, so he has a few tricks up his sleeve for sure. I don't know what a Tenkara rod is though.

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from buckhunter wrote 3 years 1 week ago

Jeepdude,

Tenkara Rods have a full unconditional warranty. The company simply sends you the broken piece. They are easy to repair. I have contacted the company and in a matter of hours the replacement piece was put in the mail. 2-3 days delivery time. Can't beat that warranty.

Steve182,
Go to TenkaraUSA.com. They are an interesting fishing alternative.

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from buck hunter 17 wrote 3 years 1 week ago

i bet that if they did some one would win one and then a lot of others would start using a fly rod. i think that it would be a REALLY smart idea to do it and to see what happends but if a lot of guys that use a regular rods would start to get mad at the guys that are using fly rods.

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from shane wrote 3 years 1 week ago

I think it can definitely be done. I've managed to outfish the other guys on the lake when I bust out the fly rod, so I'm sure the pros can do it.

Is fly tackle legal in the tournaments?

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from dgbroox wrote 3 years 1 week ago

I grew up fishing on Lake Guntersville. I can say that it would be a perfect place to fly fish for largemouths with all the grass!

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from kirkdeeter wrote 3 years 1 week ago

Hey gang... thanks for the comments. Just back home from the trip, and I wanted to add a couple things. A) Iaconelli... the real deal, and a very gracious, incredibly insightful and sharing angler. An all-around cool guy in my book. I'm cheering for him.

B) Guntersville, Alabama. Oh my goodness. A while back, I listed Guntersville among the "best fishing towns in America" for a F&S story I did. And now I see that place is only getting better. Great town, great people, 60,000 acres of lake, loaded with 5-pound bass. I'm not kidding about this... if bass is your deal, and you know how to catch bass on a fly, I'd rate a "fly" trip to Guntersville right up there with a salmon trip to Alaska, or a bonefish trip to the Bahamas. Dgbroox is dead-on right about that grass fishing... It's that darn good.

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from BamaCreekBum wrote 3 years 1 week ago

I would really love to see a fly only bass tournament. And Deeter, I live within 40 miles of Lake Guntersville and I back everything you said. I love it down there. It really is some of the best bass waters in the nation.

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from FloridaHunter1226 wrote 3 years 1 week ago

I think that it could, as long as it does not become too populare. I would think the sooner the better. If fish start getting use to that kind of "bait" they become smarter. Right now, not many bass anglers use flies so the fish are not use to them. Just goes with the theory of whether fish are smart and have a memory... all up for debate but just something I believe.

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from hellgie1 wrote 3 years 1 week ago

Nice Ike! I remember watching the Pittsburrgh Classic and thinking that a fly guy would have done well. Then the follow up classic in Santee Cooper when everyone was busting out push poles and sight fishing? Perfect for flies, I think.

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from Joseph Bishop wrote 3 years 1 week ago

I was just wondering, y didn't you get a picture with one of those 5lbs. bass you said are all over that lake? Just thought that it was sort of missing when I was going back over the blog after your comments.

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from dlbbarrel wrote 3 years 1 week ago

Why all the excitement now about fishing for bass with a flyrod? Gaddabout Gaddis did it for years! Or did all you guys forget about the "Flying Fisherman"? I fished with him in Maine on the Kennebec for smallies, his favorite fly for them was a deer hair bug. That was more years ago then I care to remember but I guess the cats out the bag bag now!

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from dlbbarrel wrote 3 years 1 week ago

Why all the excitement now about fishing for bass with a flyrod? Gaddabout Gaddis did it for years! Or did all you guys forget about the "Flying Fisherman"? I fished with him in Maine on the Kennebec for smallies, his favorite fly for them was a deer hair bug. That was more years ago then I care to remember but I guess the cats out the bag bag now!

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from conway wrote 3 years 1 week ago

kd

Good work. glad to see a bass guy have the balls to pick up the " Fairy Wand" as the fly rod is known in many BASS circles. The fly is great way to catch LMBs. I would love to see one of these bass dudes win a tourney on the "'ol fly Pole"

conway

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from shane wrote 3 years 1 week ago

If fly rods are fairy sticks, then bass rods are "hi I'm fat and rely way too much on gear sticks"

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from mvksweeney wrote 3 years 1 week ago

I think that a million dollar bonus would be just the thing needed to get more people especially youths to start fly fishing if just one or two of the worlds best bass fishers started to use fly tackle as their main tackle.

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from bassgittinart@b... wrote 3 years 1 week ago

I thank this is a great ideal. All we need is someone like Mike who likes to fly fish to sign off on the ideal.

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from buckhunter wrote 3 years 1 week ago

Jeepdude,

I was just fishing minding my own business when suddenly a grizzly bear charged from out of no where. To save a school bus load of children I hurled my Tenkara rod spear like...Wait, you want the truth don't you.

Well if the truth be told I'm an old man with poor eyesight. I was wet wading and the water was about 60 degrees and the air temp near 50. After a couple hours I was numb all over. Put all of that in the equation and you have one broken Tenkara rod. I did however prior to my non fishing related accident was able to hook and land several nice smallies with my Tenkara. The rods themselves are very tough.

By the way, I have 2 Wranglers and one Liberty in the family. I love Jeeps!

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from buckhunter wrote 3 years 1 week ago

Jeepdude,

Tenkara Rods have a full unconditional warranty. The company simply sends you the broken piece. They are easy to repair. I have contacted the company and in a matter of hours the replacement piece was put in the mail. 2-3 days delivery time. Can't beat that warranty.

Steve182,
Go to TenkaraUSA.com. They are an interesting fishing alternative.

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from kirkdeeter wrote 3 years 1 week ago

Hey gang... thanks for the comments. Just back home from the trip, and I wanted to add a couple things. A) Iaconelli... the real deal, and a very gracious, incredibly insightful and sharing angler. An all-around cool guy in my book. I'm cheering for him.

B) Guntersville, Alabama. Oh my goodness. A while back, I listed Guntersville among the "best fishing towns in America" for a F&S story I did. And now I see that place is only getting better. Great town, great people, 60,000 acres of lake, loaded with 5-pound bass. I'm not kidding about this... if bass is your deal, and you know how to catch bass on a fly, I'd rate a "fly" trip to Guntersville right up there with a salmon trip to Alaska, or a bonefish trip to the Bahamas. Dgbroox is dead-on right about that grass fishing... It's that darn good.

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from conway wrote 3 years 1 week ago

kd

Good work. glad to see a bass guy have the balls to pick up the " Fairy Wand" as the fly rod is known in many BASS circles. The fly is great way to catch LMBs. I would love to see one of these bass dudes win a tourney on the "'ol fly Pole"

conway

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from Fishing Jones wrote 3 years 1 week ago

I don't see why not. I've seen it with other species where on certain days the fish key in on flies and not lures or even bait, and the guys using fly rods catch most of the fish. Could happen over a 4-day tournament.

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from The Armchair Ou... wrote 3 years 1 week ago

Why not a fly-only tournament series? If there is such a thing for any species of fish, I'd be interested to hear about it, although the idea of a fly fishing vest or waders covered with sponsor logos is somehow just weird.

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from buckhunter wrote 3 years 1 week ago

Oh yea. I'm riding my Tenkara rod all the way to the Bassmasters Classic. Step aside you cast and crankers, here comes the fly.

On a sad note, I broke my Tenkara last night while smallmouth fishing. I've never broke a rod in my life but that is 3 in less than a year. Hopefully that ends the streak.

Deet, Don't forget Ike finished second in the Classic this year.

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from Joseph Bishop wrote 3 years 1 week ago

So, Buckhunter, I guess we get to find out about that warranty on the Tenkara Rod. How did you break it on a smallie?

About winning a major Bass tourny with a fly, I think that it is possible, but the only way it is likely to happen is if there were a major bonus like that which Deeter is suggesting. I doubt they will do that unless some of the biggest manufactures get a little less elitist.

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from minigunner111 wrote 3 years 1 week ago

I don't think so.

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from Koldkut wrote 3 years 1 week ago

Oh come on Deet, you're killing me with this one. I was talking with my wife about this one just two nights ago. One of these years I am going to take on that Lake Pleasant tourney and win it! Can it be done on the regular circuits, oh hell yes! I have plans on getting into the bass tourneys and throwing flies only. It's an underutilized bass whompin' technique!

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from ejunk wrote 3 years 1 week ago

I believe fly rods are currently illegal in the B.A.S.S. series, but legal in the FLW series. Also, I don't think a 12 foot rod is legal in either tournament series, which is why those bass rods Sage makes are 7'11". I think I read all of this in the pages of either Field and Stream or American Angler.

anyway, it seems totally likely that a fly angler could win one of these tournaments! it would take a pretty determined angler, but I for one believe it could be done.

yrs-
Evan!

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from Joseph Bishop wrote 3 years 1 week ago

Actually, buckhunter, I really liked where that first story was going, but thanks. Will you be looking at using the warranty on that rod?

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Alex Pernice th... wrote 3 years 1 week ago

Hey Deeter, try to talk him into coming out my way for smallie fishing, he does that city limits fishing show and I bet he would like what he sees...

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from steve182 wrote 3 years 1 week ago

That guy's (ike)from Jersey, so he has a few tricks up his sleeve for sure. I don't know what a Tenkara rod is though.

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from buck hunter 17 wrote 3 years 1 week ago

i bet that if they did some one would win one and then a lot of others would start using a fly rod. i think that it would be a REALLY smart idea to do it and to see what happends but if a lot of guys that use a regular rods would start to get mad at the guys that are using fly rods.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from shane wrote 3 years 1 week ago

I think it can definitely be done. I've managed to outfish the other guys on the lake when I bust out the fly rod, so I'm sure the pros can do it.

Is fly tackle legal in the tournaments?

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from dgbroox wrote 3 years 1 week ago

I grew up fishing on Lake Guntersville. I can say that it would be a perfect place to fly fish for largemouths with all the grass!

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from BamaCreekBum wrote 3 years 1 week ago

I would really love to see a fly only bass tournament. And Deeter, I live within 40 miles of Lake Guntersville and I back everything you said. I love it down there. It really is some of the best bass waters in the nation.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from FloridaHunter1226 wrote 3 years 1 week ago

I think that it could, as long as it does not become too populare. I would think the sooner the better. If fish start getting use to that kind of "bait" they become smarter. Right now, not many bass anglers use flies so the fish are not use to them. Just goes with the theory of whether fish are smart and have a memory... all up for debate but just something I believe.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from hellgie1 wrote 3 years 1 week ago

Nice Ike! I remember watching the Pittsburrgh Classic and thinking that a fly guy would have done well. Then the follow up classic in Santee Cooper when everyone was busting out push poles and sight fishing? Perfect for flies, I think.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Joseph Bishop wrote 3 years 1 week ago

I was just wondering, y didn't you get a picture with one of those 5lbs. bass you said are all over that lake? Just thought that it was sort of missing when I was going back over the blog after your comments.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from dlbbarrel wrote 3 years 1 week ago

Why all the excitement now about fishing for bass with a flyrod? Gaddabout Gaddis did it for years! Or did all you guys forget about the "Flying Fisherman"? I fished with him in Maine on the Kennebec for smallies, his favorite fly for them was a deer hair bug. That was more years ago then I care to remember but I guess the cats out the bag bag now!

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from dlbbarrel wrote 3 years 1 week ago

Why all the excitement now about fishing for bass with a flyrod? Gaddabout Gaddis did it for years! Or did all you guys forget about the "Flying Fisherman"? I fished with him in Maine on the Kennebec for smallies, his favorite fly for them was a deer hair bug. That was more years ago then I care to remember but I guess the cats out the bag bag now!

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from shane wrote 3 years 1 week ago

If fly rods are fairy sticks, then bass rods are "hi I'm fat and rely way too much on gear sticks"

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from mvksweeney wrote 3 years 1 week ago

I think that a million dollar bonus would be just the thing needed to get more people especially youths to start fly fishing if just one or two of the worlds best bass fishers started to use fly tackle as their main tackle.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from bassgittinart@b... wrote 3 years 1 week ago

I thank this is a great ideal. All we need is someone like Mike who likes to fly fish to sign off on the ideal.

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