


September 02, 2009
Bourjaily: What Happened to Squirrel Hunting?
By Philip Bourjaily
I recently came across this press release, the relevant portion of which is quoted here:
Rabbit and Squirrel Hunting Seasons Open Sept. 5
Posted: August 25, 2009
Hunting opportunities for squirrels are excellent in Iowa because hunting pressure is low, says [Iowa's forest wildlife biologist Todd] Gosselink. In the early 1960s, Iowa had 150,000 squirrel hunters and a harvest of more than 1 million squirrels compared to last fall where an estimated 23,160 squirrel hunters harvested 169,478 squirrels. Although forested habitat for squirrels has increased in the state over the last 30 years, interest in the sport has declined. Gosselink attributes this decline to more opportunity to hunt other species, like turkey and deer and the decline in Iowa's rural population.
Here in Iowa, our squirrel hunter numbers have fallen by almost 85%. While I can’t say for sure, I would guess squirrel hunting is on the decline everywhere. You certainly don’t read about it much in Field & Stream or any other outdoor magazine anymore, nor do you see it on TV. It seems like everyone is too busy hanging treestands or trail cameras this time of year to actually go into the woods and have fun hunting.
I have to confess I’m as guilty as anyone else on this count. I spend September and early October trying to get ahead on work so I can chase roosters when the season opens. It’s been a least a dozen years since I last shot a squirrel. At the time I had one of those “Mr. Squirrel” distress whistles, which were an absolute hoot to use. You’d blow the whistle – actually, you sucked in to make a high-pitched shriek --- and shake the nearest bush or sapling to make it sound like something was grabbing a young squirrel. The trees would light up with angry chattering, and squirrels would come running to the spot. I have never hunted anything that would bust you as quickly as a squirrel coming to a distress whistle. They come in on full alert, expecting to see a predator. Move at all, and they vanish.
No matter how you squirrel hunt, it’s a fine test of woodsmanship and shooting skill. And, squirrels taste great – I am particularly fond of the Squirrel Cobbler recipe in the LL Bean cookbook – but, sadly, squirrel hunting seems to be fading away. Is that true where you live, or is just that us Iowans are so big-deer happy we’ve lost sight of the important little things?
Comments (83)
very true where I love (Georgia). I actually hope I can skip a weekend or two of deer hunting this fall to shoot some squirrels after reading this article.
My boys and I still love hunting them. I bone out the meat and sautee it in butter with onions and peppers. Brown rice on the side.
Your right though, no one hereabouts hunts them any more.
I am actually going squirrel hunting this saturday in VA. This year the season opens in Sept, instead of oct, so while I am out doing some last min scouting for bow season, I will be packing my .22 with me and hopefully shoot a couple squirrels. Should reduce the movement in my stand this fall since there wont be little feet scurrying behing me causing me to think it could be the big boy.
It's true everywhere I've seen. The number of people who even know you can hunt squirrel is very low, and I probably couldn't name you 5 who do hunt them. My brother has relayed his circle is the same...few hunt squirrels, and those that once did have put it to the side for deer, turkey, etc. Guess folks are becoming too focused on trophies and bragging rights to appreciates such a nice past time?
Phil you hit it dead on the head. Deer fever has afflicted more and more folks and squirrels have taken a back seat. I too am from Georgia and hunting squirrels served as my introduction to the hunting world. It also put some fine eating on the table. I still salivate when thinking of my Grand Mother's squirrel and gravy, hot biscuits (with cane syrup or honey), grits, field peas and fried (creamed) corn.
In my area I still see a few folks out stalking the woods for bushy tails and also hunting them with Squirrel dogs which is becoming more popular.
I do feel that the extension of deer seasons in my state has had a profound effect on perceived safety and also opportunity. Archery season opens the second Saturday of September, muzzleloader the second Saturday of October amd Firearms the third Saturday of October running through Mid January in the Southern zone and January 1 in the Northern. WMA's and NF areas do provide short small game seasons during this time but complaints of inconvience ring out. Private land is almost entirely engrossed in the pursuit of old Odecoleus virginianus.
Our Squirrel season opens August 15. This is an effort to provide "extra" opportunity for squirrel hunters before the deer seasons commence. This also coincides with the tail end of Warbel (wolf) infestation of the squirrels. While this does not affect the quality of the squirrel meat, it does affect the appetite of the hunter and many refuse to kill a squirrel until a frost has fallen and wolves are gone from the squirrel!
The prime time for squirrel hunting in the old days for us was about mid October, the season usually opened around October 15. Acorns were falling, tupelo berries were ripe in the river bottoms, squirrels were feeding heavily, leaves were on the trees and the obligatory frost was close enough that warbles were not a problem. Opening day of squirrel season was a tradition for my family along with the meal(s) that followed.
Now most folks hunt squirrels after the deer seasons are over. The woods are open and stalking up on a feeding squirrel is a real challenge, probably too much for some. I feel this is the reason squirrel dogs are becoming more popular.
I still hunt them small critters here in MI; I like your recipe there Douglas-heck-you could cook leather with butter, onions, and peppers and make it taste good!!ha,ha
I would add a bit of hot sauce, and fresh ground black pepper, for good measure...
I'm very new to the hunting world. In fact, I'm taking a Hunter Safety Education class later this month in order to be qualified to purchase a hunting licence. Squirrel hunting sounds like a LOT of fun from your description, Mr Bourjaily, but I don't know anyone who does it. How do I get started? Any gear recommendations? Also, I've got a single-shot .410. Will that be sufficient, or should I invest in a good .22?
"Guess folks are becoming too focused on trophies and bragging rights to appreciates such a nice past time?"
Squirrels don't come with big wall mounts, scores, record books, the latest gear, or fist pumps, so they aren't "cool" anymore.
Maybe this will help -
http://www.cooperfirearms.com/rifles.php?rifle_name=jsr
What do you shoot écureuil with, Bourjaily?
Your .410 will do, but everyone needs a good .22.
My uncle might not like it, but I LOVE SQUIRREL HUNTING! Probaly more then pheasant. I've read that .410s are great for squirrel, but aim true 'cus that single shot aint for on the spot reloading.
Boy, I shot a lot of squirrels in my day. The problem was that when I was young I could not find anyone willing to show me how to clean them properly and my dear old mom certainly wasn't going to cook them. I didn't actually eat any squirrels until I returned to the sport after college. I have a nice 22 and some time on my hands and I taught myself how to get em in my belly. Luckily, my wife loves them and I spend about a week or more in the fall squirrel hunting while checking out the deer signs. I would not be caught dead out in the woods during an open season (In WI that is from mid September through end of January) without at least my 22 pistol. I've tried a few squirrel calls but have not had much luck.
I have been trying to get my nephew into hunting. He is at that age right now where he plays a lot of video games and could go either way with hunting. Last year I took him rabbit hunting and squirrel hunting a few times and he loves it. I gave him a call and send him through the woods and he feels like a wild man. The problem is that he is terrible luck and I have not given him the opportunity to eat a single squirrel yet. This year he is hunting deer and I am very excited to get him out this fall to shoot some critters before that and I know that he will love it.
If we are so focused on trophy deer and big game it takes the fun out of it for younger people. It would be like taking a 12 year old trophy musky fishing for his first time out and not getting a single bite, or worse, getting a monster on the line and scarring the living day lights out of them. Every kid starts out fishing pan fish because they bite quick, fast, and often. So it should be with hunting. I think that kids started on squirrels and rabbits will get the feel of having fun rather than the pressure of making a good shot on a trophy white tail from 100 yards.
I am also Turkey hunting this fall for the first time in my life. I am really excited about it but I am also conflicted because the opening of Turkey season is the same day as the opening for squirrels. I will have to hurry up and bag a Turkey so I can get back to stalking furry lil tree critters.
I think the real culprit is leased and posted land. In Louisiana it has gotten crazy. People are so blood thirsty for trespassing that it makes a regular guy fearful that he might slip over while chasing them through the trees. So these big tracts of big oaks full of squirrels are vacant so guys can hunt deer later in the year.
When we were kids we couldn't wait until the first frost, when we got the okay from our parents to hit the woods. It is definitely a great way to introduce new hunters to everything from woodsmanship to the eating. My favorite gun was a little Savage 24, .22 over .410.
Fist day of last grouse season a squirrel stuck his head around a tree and ended up in my game vest. I get out hunting for them in the late season, mostly. With so many of them irritating me during deer season last year I might take a few during deer archery season.
Squirrel hunters really appreciate the value of a sharp knife. Their hides are tough.
Squirrel season don't start here till Sept 14, but I'm eager to go after em. My choice of shootin iron is- A Savage 24 in .22 over .410. My land backs up against a big chunk o woods, I know the owner, he bought it for hunting and welcomes me there. Lookin forward to a good season.
i love hunting squirrel. they are fun, challenging at times, and best of all delicious.
i made it ouw for opening day of squirrel here in tn and one thing the twra did to encourage squirrel hunting is make opening day a free hunting day. Doing this allowed people without liscenses to get out in the woods or take their kids. I started squirrel hunting and still love it and wont ever give it up. My 80 something year old grandfather even made it into the woods to chase bushy tails! Also I work at a zoo where hunting and fishing are looked down upon because we take care of animals, and they ust don't get it. I have managed to encourage 4 or 5 people to get small game licenses and come hunting squirrels with me. So I think the decline is square on our (the sportsmans) shoulders for giving up a wonderful past time. I for one can not wait to pass on the tradition to my children and grandchildren, as well as anyone that wants to get into the woods.
never really hunted small game but might have to give it a try this season.
randwarner,
I think your point is spot on. When I was a kid growing up in southern West Virginia I could buy a permit for ten dollars that gave me access to a couple hundred thousand acres of Westvaco and GP timberlands. Now, virtually all of that property is tied up in long-term leases to hunting clubs, many of which are comprised of out of state residents who only use the land for the two weeks of deer season.
Lack of opportunity to hunt them. Woodlots big and small are all gone. We can hunt squirrels all summer through the fall, but where? Public land? LOL.
It's not like when we were kids, walk out the door and start hunting.
I got plenty of them around my house in town, when I drive out to where I was raise the trees are gone just flat corn/bean fields.
Squirrel hunting was the first hunting I ever did(started with a pellet rifle), but sadly, I haven't had time for them in the last few years.
I love squirrel hunting and quail over dogs. I'd really like to try squirrel over dogs. I don't have time anymore since moving from Alaska, but should be getting into it again this winter, along with hogs for the first time. Hope I'm lucky w/ my little 10/22.
I tried hunting them w/ a 10/22 in 17HM2 a few years back. How disappointing. I got rid of that barrel QUICK!
My dad was telling me yesterday that he shot his limit of squirrels (10) during his hunt this past Monday morning. His first time ever. Before that, neither one of us had ever gotten past 6 or 7 apiece.
Most people I know with land don't want anyone hunting squirrels for fear they'll "mess up" their trophy deer hunting in October.
Sign of the times I'm afraid....
I'm afraid that ALL small game hunting is dying, probably for all the reasons listed above. You don't see many F&S articles on rabbit hunting either, but you used to in days gone by.
Harold
I'm an Iowa man, and I'll be up before commonly deemed sane to be going at the squirrels AND rabbits. You forgot to mention they open up Saturday too!
I didn't hunt squirrels last year but its on again for this year. A squirrel crapped on me the last day of deer season last year while I was sitting in my stand. I would go this weekend but I have a date to kill the giant winged rat(Can. Goose). I enjoy hunting alot of things but the killing of resident geese is probably the most satisfying to me.
I, like many others, first learned woodsmanship as a youngster chasing squirrels. The thing that now bugs me the most is the look you get from the non-hunters when you say you are going out after what I consider the tastiest of all wild game. I just smile and thimk about the next batch of stew made from "Chicken of the Tree".
I grew up in Florida hunting squirrels, rabbits and deer. We ate a lot of game back then to make ends meet and I just got burned out on eating small game. One year I bagged over 200 squirrels. Eastern Kansas is loaded with grey and fox squirrels and I haven't bumped into a squirrel hunter in many years.
Nothing has happened to squirrel hunting with me. I look forward to the first day with nearly as much anticipation as the first day of a big game season, getting immense pleasure and satisfaction from slipping thru the early fall woods with either a .22 rifle or my T/C Contender with either a .22 WMR or .410 barrel in place, or sitting on a hardwood ridge watching and listening to the life going on around me. There is no pressure as there is with big game, the game is still calm, the weather is beautiful, I revel in this season and time of the year. My wife makes a wonderful white squirrel gravy with fried or mashed potatoes and biscuits.
When I hunt squirrel I only see deer. When I hunt deer I see squirrels. In Germany they don't hunt them at all. Let us not reach that point.
I know a couple of guys who squirrel hunt pretty seriously - but they're many generations older than me. I squirrel hunt once or twice every year. I used to do it more, but then I discovered duck hunting and bow hunting.
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Evan!
When I was a teen I hunted squirrels and rabbits. Love squirrel stew. It’s comfort food.
My brother loves squirrel hunting with his .22. Unfortunately I don’t hunt squirrels nowadays especially since I created a welfare state in my backyard with bird [squirrel] feeders. Something about seeing squirrels invading during the winter months. They’re so lively.
I have 20-acres of hardwoods lousy with squirrels I posted. I posted the land to keep the “Regulators” and old game hogs out and reserved the woods for young student hunters. I live a mile outside a small town. There’s a few young teen ladies and men taking advantage of the situation after school and on weekends. It gives me hope for hunting’s future.
I shoot a lot of squirrels with my bow while deer hunting but wait until after our deer tags are full to harvest squirrels. My land is all hardwoods and is infested with squirrels. We shoot as many as we can and never seem to put a dent in the population. I hear they breed 4 times a year.
Deer definitely bites into my small game, but maybe for different reasons that generally illustrated above. I have a hard time justifying it in the early season, even though it is a lot of fun, becuase my freezer is out or just about out of venison and that's a staple of the house. Once the deer problem is taken care of I need to get my poor beagle on some rabbits, though he does get out a lot of Sundays during archery since hunting is closed in PA. Niether the rabbits nor the dog seem to be too concerned about my lack of a firearm. I decided last year to bring some blunt tips with me on stand in case the morning was slow and I just couldn't resist taking a shot at one of the resident bushytails. Both times the squirrel was already keyed in on me prior to release and both squirrels actively evaded the arrow, though one's leap left it fall off of the branch it was on. Agile little critters.
Nobody's gonna pay $3,000 a year for a lease to hunt squirrels! Lack of land is the problem. Hunting is becoming a rich man's game, like everything else. Real, open leisure time has all but disappeared. Today's parents get tied up on the weekends with their kids' team sports. Probably the single biggest killer of dads taking their kids hunting is team sports.
Good post, Phil. Squirrels are part of our past history, and my past, in particular. Daniel Boone was found peacefully departed under a huge nut tree, Betsy on his lap[Betsy was a rifle, so simmer down]. It was the way to go home, I think. I have enjoyed hunting squirrels with a flintlock rifle, but had to learn to 'bark' them, or shoot heads only, if I wanted any squirrel gravy. One doesn't deserve any great credit for this kind of shooting---one waits until they venture into easy range.
I am encouraged by this line of thought, and it would be good for the shooting sports to see this great kind of hunting encouraged, again. The principles of stealth and woodscraft are pretty quickly taught..lessons learned on the spot. Do it right and you get shooting. Do it wrong, and you just learned a lesson. Now sit down, and think about it until the woods settle down again.
Thank you Phil, and welcome to the new shooter, Dotcomaphobe. Get a .22 AND take your .410 out...have a ball. You'll find which one pleases you the most.
Blue
ChevJames is right. When all day Saturday and (gasp) Sunday is taken up with soccer practice (another un-American activity) and other team sports, neither Dad nor kids have time to hunt or fish. Another example of the pussification of the American male.
I killed too many squirrels to count as a kid. I hunted every afternoon and Saturdays. No hunting was allowed on Sundays by executive order of Mom. No huntable populations near me these days anyway.
One other thought. I can't think of anything finer that sneaking through the woods or sitting against a big oak with an accurate .22. I have an old kimber .22 that just begs to snipe the treetops. sigh
I also still chase after squirrels, squirrel pot pie, yum!
Here in PA Archery Deer opens October 3rd, then Squirrel opens October 17th, only giving me 2 weeks to chase deer before squirrel opens and I'm torn on which to go for, deer or squirrel! I do carry a couple field point arrows for squirrel, but have yet to actually hit one of them with an arrow, did arrow a rabbit once though, little bigger target!
That and rabbits have the wonderful habit of turning sideways to you and freezing in place, makes for a much easier target.
And legally (at least as I understand the law) I cannot carry my 22 revolver while archery hunting to pop an occasional squirrel, but I can carry field points for small game. Go figure.
I wonder if I could argue that I was not carrying a firearm while archery hunting, but was carrying a bow while firearm hunting? Which as far as I know would not be illegal. Interesting idea.......
When I was a kid down south squirrel hunting was a favorite sport with a .22 RF. We frowned on folks who used shotguns as we generally felt that it was not sporting. Regardless there were times when a shotgun wuld have given me the limit but a .22 failed due to the eyesight and speed for the squirrels. A trophy was a red "fox squirrel" particularily if he had not been castrated. I have heard several versions of how this castration occurs. Does anyone know why some male squirrels are nutless?
Zermoid,
PA changed the rules regarding carrying while archery hunting. You may now carry a handgun while archery hunting if you have a Concealed Carry License. I don't believe you may do the same using the Sportmans Firearm permit. I don't know that they specifically addressed taking a shot at small game legally harvested by firearms while archery hunting for big game. You should be aware though that the CC License is just that. No one's ever supposed to know you're carrying except for dire circumstances. I don't know that an overly curious squirrel qualifies. Happy hunting and good luck during archery. I live in WMU 5C so the early archery for me starts on the 19th.
My kind of hunting, walk a little (bad knees and hip) sit quietly a lot, maybe shoot a little. Spend a day in the woods, bring a sandwich and some water and enjoy the sounds and sights. And if I'm successful, it's not to hard packing out the catch.
I'd like to know if there is a National Wild Squirrel Federation, or a National Wild Cottontail Federation?
Zermoid,
From the PA regs.
Firearms - Handguns: A Sportsman’s Firearms permit or a License
to Carry Firearms is required to carry a handgun, or have in a motor
vehicle. Licenses to Carry Firearms permits are issued by county sheriffs
or the Philadelphia Chief of Police. The License to Carry Firearms
permit only entitles bowhunters or spotlighters, for instance, to
carry firearms that fall within this classification. County treasurers
issue Sportsman’s Firearms Permits. A person holding a Sportsman’s
Firearms Permit may not carry a concealed handgun or a loaded
handgun in a vehicle, and may not carry a handgun while
bowhunting or spotlighting.
I love to squirrel hunt and actually plan on going out this weekend and hunting them back home. I started squirrel hunting probably when I was six or seven and have been hunting every year since. My dad got busy with work as I got older so I used to go out many days after school either by myself or with my little brother and a lot of times we shoot our limit. Few people around home still hunt squirrel, but me and bunch of buddies in high school would go out a lot on weekends and hunt squirrel and by great-uncle, his grand son, and a few others actually set up a squirrel camp on some of my dads land each year and hunt squirrel for a week. Squirrel hunting is still a lot of fun for me and I wish I could do it more often, but its hard now that I'm in college, but you can be sure that if I get the change I'm going to be hunting them.
I started back squirrel hunting about four years ago when my wife and I bought a place with a pecan orchard on it.
I like borrow my old man's Winchester 1890 and get out a box of .22 shorts for those occasions. I also have a blue heeler mix who is a squirrel machine. Beekeeper, you are preaching victual and squirrel gospel there! Amen, brother!
ishawooa...some squirrels do not have nuts, because hillary can climb trees...
can't believe I said that. forgive me.
Blue
Squirrels were the number one game species in Louisiana for many years. Then deer became readily accessible state wide. At the same time most hardwoods in upland areas were poisoned or clearcut and replaced with pure pine plantations. Then tens of thousands of acres of riverbottom hardwoods were bulldozed for the soy bean craze in the 70's & 80's. Next came leasing for deer and with long deer seasons,many don't want to "disturb" the deer on their lease by squirrel hunting.
Unfortunately, many of the younger generation now think hunting is sitting in a box stand, watching a corn feeder and being bored spitless.
Isawooa,those are not castrated males. They are just juveniles, young of the year, who haven't hit puberty & developed the impressive jewels of their fathers.
Blue-
Good comment. Could be a viable theory. I was always told that the old boar squirrels castrated the young boars when they were mating in the spring. I have never personally seen this, but have heard a lot of squirrel screaming at times in the woods, and have killed several castrated squirrels.
One note on the cleaning of squirrels- they have glands under their front legs (kernels) that should be removed after skinning or the squirrel will taste gamy and rank. I believe that improper cleaning is the reason that a lot of people shy away from eating squirrel, and other types of game.
From the Minnesota Dept of Natural Resources on squirrel castration:
"This is not true. The legend that red squirrels castrate gray ones has been around a long time. It probably arose because gray squirrels retract their testicles into their abdominal cavity when it's not breeding season, so they might look like they're castrated."
Don't know one way or the other, just what DNR said.
"Chicken of the tree", PapaB? That's a good one!
You fellas make me hungry, talking about squirrel with gravy, fresh biscuits, grits, and fresh peas. When is suppertime?
Yeah I'm not buying the castrated squirrel theory...
A lot of people ate squirrel when there were no deer or turkeys. Now it is tough cleaning a small tree rat for dinner when you can kill a 200 pound animal with a bow soon. Of course I shoot them off my bird feeders just for practice, but to me squirrel season is just an excuse to take a day walking the woods with a .22 trying to find out where the deer are and getting away from the real world, if that's what you want to call it.
Wvotter, I'm assuming you are from West Virginia, I'm here in Eastern Ky. and Squirrel hunting used to be the Past time until deer or Grouse season opened. A few still hunt them here but it's been years since I have. Maybe I need get the .22 out and try it. I just have to walk from home and there are plenty of them...
beekeeper, here in Kentucky, our season starts Aug,15 also... When I was young, squirrel hunting was very popular, wasn't any deer then, but a lot of people still hunt them today.. No birds any more and deer getting thick now, Elk are getting to be the thing now but have to draw to hunt them. Maybe someday there will be an open season on elk and this year in the South Eastern counties next to Va. black bear season starts in Dec with 100 bears available, buy=t still plenty of squirrel just out the back door.
sorry, don,t know where that y= came in there, should have been But...Maybe there's a squirrel in my computer....
Ish - Because males will bite them off so only they can spread their genetics. I always assumed that that didn't really happen much at all, if ever.
Why I don’t Squirrel hunt, perhaps telling you my Wife is from California! LOL!
I started out squirrel and dove hunting. I just got back into hunting deer after a 13 year break, not by choice of course. I went out last year and got a ruger 10/22 so that this squirrel season I could get back into that to.
With all due respect to everyone, and Minnesota Dept of Natural Resources, squirrel castration is not a legend. Don't know about the reds cutting the greys, but I have seen enough castrated animals to know the difference between a mature vs a young squirrel, and I know a scarred nut sac from retracted testicles. May not happen that often, but it does happen.
We dont have a squirrel season.That would be nice if we did,They are hell on wood duck boxes,And I bet they are tasty? Theres a neat little "how to remove squirrels from your deck" floating around the internet.it may bring a smile.
jcarlin,
Yeah, I do have a concealed carry license, and you don't need a license to carry openly in PA, so even if it's not fully concealed you are not "illegal" as far as I know. BTW, I live in 4D, and sometimes hunt in 4E as well.
That regulation really says nothing about USING the pistol for hunting. "The License to Carry Firearms
permit only entitles bowhunters or spotlighters, for instance, to carry firearms that fall within this classification." Within this classification? What does that mean? Is there a list of guns you may carry for defense? I've no idea........
Personally I have always carried a 1911 during bow season, legal or not. We got bears around here and I figure the 45 is low power for bears but better than an arrow if I get a bear POed at me! Figure a load of 9 rounds of 45 ACP should at least slow it down some, if not I carry 2 spare mags as well.
The regulation sounds like a "you can carry it but you can't use it" type of thing. Not sure but That's my take on it. At least now it sounds like if you are using a spotlight and have a defensive handgun on you it won't be illegal as long as you have a CWP.
I've always wondered why people buy the sportsmen's permit? It really does nothing not already covered by other laws, you still have to unload it before getting in your car, can't conceal it, so what's the use? According to the law it's already legal to carry a gun while hunting or fishing, so people shell out money for what? A piece of paper that says you can do the same things you can do without it? Makes no sense to me, I'd rather pay the money for the CWP that at least grants you some extra things you can do.
Let's face it, an empty gum makes a lousy weapon, ain't even worth much as a club or hatchet type weapon!
Hey, Thanks for the info, is it in the hunting book or did you find it online? Because I missed it.....
Wonko,
Lucky you, we aren't allowed to use semi's for hunting here, has to be manually operated. Which really irritates me, I got a military surplus SKS rifle (not one of the mass produced to export crap ones) that shoots about 2 inch groups at 100 yds with open sights, wish I could use it for deer season, shoots better than my Marlin 30-30 does! Add a scope and I got a great deer killer. Have actually considered converting it to single shot/manual rifle, All I'd have to do is take off the gas tube and have it welded shut to permanently make it manual. I talked to the game commission about that, simply removing the gas piston wouldn't suffice as you could put it back while in the woods, it would have to be permanently altered.
Not sure if I want to do that......
Sorry guy's I just cannot wrap my mind around eating a RODENT! Maybe if it was a case of starving I might. And I don't shoot anything I won't eat unless its trying to kill me, so I limit myself to Any Venison, Elk Dear Moose,Bison but don't care for Carabou and don't shoot them either, Pheasant Ducks and Quail is about it for me.
Zermoid ,AKs are cheap enough you could get another and modify the one EH?
moishe, you will eat a duck, but not a squirrel???
Squirrel hunting is what I'm best at.The only problem is that there doesn't seem to be as many squirrels to hunt as there used to be.Unless I go down to the cahaba river, I don't even see one rabbit.Small game seems to be dissappearing around here.By the way I,m not new here on this forum--I just couldn't get my old name[redneck185]to work anymore.That name was also spread all over the net,but it wasn't me.
Moishe,fried squirrel tastes good!Squirrel brains taste better than pig brains.My dad grew up as a poor man and how many shells he had sometimes ment how much food was on the table.He never ate opossum,but he did eat more of the squirrel then I did---including the eyes.
I did not hope anyone would think I was against eating squirrels just not my choice, sarg, not real crazy about ducks don't shoot many, will give them to friends however, then they invite me over I will eat some.
Dr.Ralph, spoken like true Man from Tn. Here in E Ky. I just walk a little way to Tygart Creek and shoot as many squirrels as I want, just don't want any now, but they are there.
Dr. Ralph-
Can't believe in all your outdoor experience that you find squirrels difficult to clean! I
was raised using a two man cut and pull method, but now have a "squirrel skinner" in my hunting box that does the same as another person holding the squirrel. Average time for
a young squirrel, about 2-3 minutes. Also, I carry a pair of wire cutters to nip through leg bones, avoids nicking a knife blade.
Moishe-
If you've never tried fried young squirrel, or squirrel and dumplings made out of old squirrels, you need to give it a try. Make you throw rocks at dead yard bird!
My young son coming of age to begin going with me to the woods has reawakened the long buried squirrel slayer inside me that has lain dormant for the last 20 years. He gets bored in a shooting house but he loves tromping into the woods, settling down next to the bole of a big tree and waiting the five minutes it takes for the squirrel that hid from you when you walked in to lose his wits and make a run for it. "There he goes, Daddy. Get him! Get him!" Repeat the process every 30 minutes all morning and another hunter has joined our ranks. Season opens in Oct here in Alabama, I can't wait.
hey Green Pond mike...........head down hwy 5 to Oakmulgee WMA/Talledega Nat'l forest. more small game than you can shake a stick at, without the access problems of Cahaba WMA
This article is not true for me. Squirrel hunting is the best and I go out about once a week to go after the little critters.
Moishe, I can understand and appreciate your difficulty with eating (rodent). The animals you list as food are all perfectly kosher and you can't make a squirrel kosher, any more than you could make a javalina. Keep your ancestors faith and Mazel Tov for deer season.
Thank you Bella.
Thanks for the advice BamaHunter,I'll give it another try.I've been there before but was probably in the wrong spot for squirrels.
I still squirrel hunt and rabbit too both are great ways to keep your skills honed while puttin meat on the table. My dad took me when I was a boy I used a single shot 20 ga. a couple yrs later I upgraded to a 12 ga. No problem with that. Shotguns are good squirrel guns with the right choke (Modified for me) and the right shot 7-1/2, 6 or 8's. As soon as my youngin is ready I'll take him out to find a bushy tail or ten.
I've got no objection to 22's but where I'm from Shotguns are the way to go.
I love to watch em run up and down trees and jump from branch to branch or tree to tree and listen to em bark nothin like it at all. They can entertain you any day in the woods.
anyone ever have squirrel dumplins or fried squirrel? Baked is good too with some mesquite. Mouths waterin.
First frost is good time to go. We can hunt em in June here too.
86Ram-
Was going to write something about shot gun squirrel hunters, then realized it was self explanatory. As to how to eat squirrels, read above post.
Well Sir, I am not alone on the squirrel dumplins.
A friend of mine recommended usin squirrel in brunswick stew in place of beef, lamb or chicken. I regret to say I haven't done that yet.
Might I ask about the shotgun comment? In some counties rifle hunting isn't permitted. I have hunted with a 22 pistol as well.
Some years I only get an opportunity to hunt deer, waterfowl, and Fall turkeys briefly by invite, but I go after those bushytails without fail every year. I am running into less and less competition!
Some great reading here need to go back and give all a +1
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I mostly duck hunt, but look forward the most to roaming the woods squirrel hunting. I went this morning very late as a front came through during the night and I thought it would be too windy. I woke up and realized the wind wasn't so bad, so I went anyway. I live in SE Louisiana and the biggest problem right now is that the woods all over were destroyed by Katrina. It knocked down so many trees that the underbrush is now so thick you can hardly get in the woods. I still got to see two turkeys, one rabbit (I'd have had him if I had been carrying a shotgun) and a huge doe. Mostly I was exploring trying to find some patches of woods that weren't all screwed up. The other problem is that the season for me is mostly cut short because I don't go in the woods during deer season. I don't want to mess up anyone's deer hunt and I don't want to get shot.
The best hunt I ever had was with my son when he was 10 or 11 years old. We were hunting near each other - I couldn't see him but I could hear him wearing them out with his .22. I shot a few, but every time I heard that rifle crack I had a big sh*t eatin' grin on my face. He's been hunting with me since the age of 8 - mostly small game - ducks, rabbit, and squirrels and fishing too. I attribute hunting and fishing to the fact that he's grown up to be a pretty good kid.
Oh, and by the way, my favorite is a squirrel pie. Brown the meat, then put in a pressure cooker for 20 minutes and the meat falls off the bone. You only need one or two for a pie.
Deer, hogs, and turkey are the main part of concentration for most of Central Florida hunters. I have often thought of the idea but I really do not even have a rifle that is calibered for squirrel. My .270 would not leave a squirrel. Seems like it would be something fun to pick up.
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Phil you hit it dead on the head. Deer fever has afflicted more and more folks and squirrels have taken a back seat. I too am from Georgia and hunting squirrels served as my introduction to the hunting world. It also put some fine eating on the table. I still salivate when thinking of my Grand Mother's squirrel and gravy, hot biscuits (with cane syrup or honey), grits, field peas and fried (creamed) corn.
In my area I still see a few folks out stalking the woods for bushy tails and also hunting them with Squirrel dogs which is becoming more popular.
I do feel that the extension of deer seasons in my state has had a profound effect on perceived safety and also opportunity. Archery season opens the second Saturday of September, muzzleloader the second Saturday of October amd Firearms the third Saturday of October running through Mid January in the Southern zone and January 1 in the Northern. WMA's and NF areas do provide short small game seasons during this time but complaints of inconvience ring out. Private land is almost entirely engrossed in the pursuit of old Odecoleus virginianus.
Our Squirrel season opens August 15. This is an effort to provide "extra" opportunity for squirrel hunters before the deer seasons commence. This also coincides with the tail end of Warbel (wolf) infestation of the squirrels. While this does not affect the quality of the squirrel meat, it does affect the appetite of the hunter and many refuse to kill a squirrel until a frost has fallen and wolves are gone from the squirrel!
The prime time for squirrel hunting in the old days for us was about mid October, the season usually opened around October 15. Acorns were falling, tupelo berries were ripe in the river bottoms, squirrels were feeding heavily, leaves were on the trees and the obligatory frost was close enough that warbles were not a problem. Opening day of squirrel season was a tradition for my family along with the meal(s) that followed.
Now most folks hunt squirrels after the deer seasons are over. The woods are open and stalking up on a feeding squirrel is a real challenge, probably too much for some. I feel this is the reason squirrel dogs are becoming more popular.
It's true everywhere I've seen. The number of people who even know you can hunt squirrel is very low, and I probably couldn't name you 5 who do hunt them. My brother has relayed his circle is the same...few hunt squirrels, and those that once did have put it to the side for deer, turkey, etc. Guess folks are becoming too focused on trophies and bragging rights to appreciates such a nice past time?
I still hunt them small critters here in MI; I like your recipe there Douglas-heck-you could cook leather with butter, onions, and peppers and make it taste good!!ha,ha
I would add a bit of hot sauce, and fresh ground black pepper, for good measure...
I'm very new to the hunting world. In fact, I'm taking a Hunter Safety Education class later this month in order to be qualified to purchase a hunting licence. Squirrel hunting sounds like a LOT of fun from your description, Mr Bourjaily, but I don't know anyone who does it. How do I get started? Any gear recommendations? Also, I've got a single-shot .410. Will that be sufficient, or should I invest in a good .22?
When I was a teen I hunted squirrels and rabbits. Love squirrel stew. It’s comfort food.
My brother loves squirrel hunting with his .22. Unfortunately I don’t hunt squirrels nowadays especially since I created a welfare state in my backyard with bird [squirrel] feeders. Something about seeing squirrels invading during the winter months. They’re so lively.
I have 20-acres of hardwoods lousy with squirrels I posted. I posted the land to keep the “Regulators” and old game hogs out and reserved the woods for young student hunters. I live a mile outside a small town. There’s a few young teen ladies and men taking advantage of the situation after school and on weekends. It gives me hope for hunting’s future.
Nobody's gonna pay $3,000 a year for a lease to hunt squirrels! Lack of land is the problem. Hunting is becoming a rich man's game, like everything else. Real, open leisure time has all but disappeared. Today's parents get tied up on the weekends with their kids' team sports. Probably the single biggest killer of dads taking their kids hunting is team sports.
I also still chase after squirrels, squirrel pot pie, yum!
Here in PA Archery Deer opens October 3rd, then Squirrel opens October 17th, only giving me 2 weeks to chase deer before squirrel opens and I'm torn on which to go for, deer or squirrel! I do carry a couple field point arrows for squirrel, but have yet to actually hit one of them with an arrow, did arrow a rabbit once though, little bigger target!
That and rabbits have the wonderful habit of turning sideways to you and freezing in place, makes for a much easier target.
And legally (at least as I understand the law) I cannot carry my 22 revolver while archery hunting to pop an occasional squirrel, but I can carry field points for small game. Go figure.
I wonder if I could argue that I was not carrying a firearm while archery hunting, but was carrying a bow while firearm hunting? Which as far as I know would not be illegal. Interesting idea.......
very true where I love (Georgia). I actually hope I can skip a weekend or two of deer hunting this fall to shoot some squirrels after reading this article.
My boys and I still love hunting them. I bone out the meat and sautee it in butter with onions and peppers. Brown rice on the side.
Your right though, no one hereabouts hunts them any more.
I am actually going squirrel hunting this saturday in VA. This year the season opens in Sept, instead of oct, so while I am out doing some last min scouting for bow season, I will be packing my .22 with me and hopefully shoot a couple squirrels. Should reduce the movement in my stand this fall since there wont be little feet scurrying behing me causing me to think it could be the big boy.
Boy, I shot a lot of squirrels in my day. The problem was that when I was young I could not find anyone willing to show me how to clean them properly and my dear old mom certainly wasn't going to cook them. I didn't actually eat any squirrels until I returned to the sport after college. I have a nice 22 and some time on my hands and I taught myself how to get em in my belly. Luckily, my wife loves them and I spend about a week or more in the fall squirrel hunting while checking out the deer signs. I would not be caught dead out in the woods during an open season (In WI that is from mid September through end of January) without at least my 22 pistol. I've tried a few squirrel calls but have not had much luck.
I have been trying to get my nephew into hunting. He is at that age right now where he plays a lot of video games and could go either way with hunting. Last year I took him rabbit hunting and squirrel hunting a few times and he loves it. I gave him a call and send him through the woods and he feels like a wild man. The problem is that he is terrible luck and I have not given him the opportunity to eat a single squirrel yet. This year he is hunting deer and I am very excited to get him out this fall to shoot some critters before that and I know that he will love it.
If we are so focused on trophy deer and big game it takes the fun out of it for younger people. It would be like taking a 12 year old trophy musky fishing for his first time out and not getting a single bite, or worse, getting a monster on the line and scarring the living day lights out of them. Every kid starts out fishing pan fish because they bite quick, fast, and often. So it should be with hunting. I think that kids started on squirrels and rabbits will get the feel of having fun rather than the pressure of making a good shot on a trophy white tail from 100 yards.
I am also Turkey hunting this fall for the first time in my life. I am really excited about it but I am also conflicted because the opening of Turkey season is the same day as the opening for squirrels. I will have to hurry up and bag a Turkey so I can get back to stalking furry lil tree critters.
When I hunt squirrel I only see deer. When I hunt deer I see squirrels. In Germany they don't hunt them at all. Let us not reach that point.
I know a couple of guys who squirrel hunt pretty seriously - but they're many generations older than me. I squirrel hunt once or twice every year. I used to do it more, but then I discovered duck hunting and bow hunting.
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Evan!
Good post, Phil. Squirrels are part of our past history, and my past, in particular. Daniel Boone was found peacefully departed under a huge nut tree, Betsy on his lap[Betsy was a rifle, so simmer down]. It was the way to go home, I think. I have enjoyed hunting squirrels with a flintlock rifle, but had to learn to 'bark' them, or shoot heads only, if I wanted any squirrel gravy. One doesn't deserve any great credit for this kind of shooting---one waits until they venture into easy range.
I am encouraged by this line of thought, and it would be good for the shooting sports to see this great kind of hunting encouraged, again. The principles of stealth and woodscraft are pretty quickly taught..lessons learned on the spot. Do it right and you get shooting. Do it wrong, and you just learned a lesson. Now sit down, and think about it until the woods settle down again.
Thank you Phil, and welcome to the new shooter, Dotcomaphobe. Get a .22 AND take your .410 out...have a ball. You'll find which one pleases you the most.
Blue
When I was a kid down south squirrel hunting was a favorite sport with a .22 RF. We frowned on folks who used shotguns as we generally felt that it was not sporting. Regardless there were times when a shotgun wuld have given me the limit but a .22 failed due to the eyesight and speed for the squirrels. A trophy was a red "fox squirrel" particularily if he had not been castrated. I have heard several versions of how this castration occurs. Does anyone know why some male squirrels are nutless?
I started back squirrel hunting about four years ago when my wife and I bought a place with a pecan orchard on it.
I like borrow my old man's Winchester 1890 and get out a box of .22 shorts for those occasions. I also have a blue heeler mix who is a squirrel machine. Beekeeper, you are preaching victual and squirrel gospel there! Amen, brother!
ishawooa...some squirrels do not have nuts, because hillary can climb trees...
can't believe I said that. forgive me.
Blue
This article is not true for me. Squirrel hunting is the best and I go out about once a week to go after the little critters.
Your .410 will do, but everyone needs a good .22.
My uncle might not like it, but I LOVE SQUIRREL HUNTING! Probaly more then pheasant. I've read that .410s are great for squirrel, but aim true 'cus that single shot aint for on the spot reloading.
I think the real culprit is leased and posted land. In Louisiana it has gotten crazy. People are so blood thirsty for trespassing that it makes a regular guy fearful that he might slip over while chasing them through the trees. So these big tracts of big oaks full of squirrels are vacant so guys can hunt deer later in the year.
When we were kids we couldn't wait until the first frost, when we got the okay from our parents to hit the woods. It is definitely a great way to introduce new hunters to everything from woodsmanship to the eating. My favorite gun was a little Savage 24, .22 over .410.
Fist day of last grouse season a squirrel stuck his head around a tree and ended up in my game vest. I get out hunting for them in the late season, mostly. With so many of them irritating me during deer season last year I might take a few during deer archery season.
Squirrel hunters really appreciate the value of a sharp knife. Their hides are tough.
i made it ouw for opening day of squirrel here in tn and one thing the twra did to encourage squirrel hunting is make opening day a free hunting day. Doing this allowed people without liscenses to get out in the woods or take their kids. I started squirrel hunting and still love it and wont ever give it up. My 80 something year old grandfather even made it into the woods to chase bushy tails! Also I work at a zoo where hunting and fishing are looked down upon because we take care of animals, and they ust don't get it. I have managed to encourage 4 or 5 people to get small game licenses and come hunting squirrels with me. So I think the decline is square on our (the sportsmans) shoulders for giving up a wonderful past time. I for one can not wait to pass on the tradition to my children and grandchildren, as well as anyone that wants to get into the woods.
never really hunted small game but might have to give it a try this season.
randwarner,
I think your point is spot on. When I was a kid growing up in southern West Virginia I could buy a permit for ten dollars that gave me access to a couple hundred thousand acres of Westvaco and GP timberlands. Now, virtually all of that property is tied up in long-term leases to hunting clubs, many of which are comprised of out of state residents who only use the land for the two weeks of deer season.
Lack of opportunity to hunt them. Woodlots big and small are all gone. We can hunt squirrels all summer through the fall, but where? Public land? LOL.
It's not like when we were kids, walk out the door and start hunting.
I got plenty of them around my house in town, when I drive out to where I was raise the trees are gone just flat corn/bean fields.
Squirrel hunting was the first hunting I ever did(started with a pellet rifle), but sadly, I haven't had time for them in the last few years.
I love squirrel hunting and quail over dogs. I'd really like to try squirrel over dogs. I don't have time anymore since moving from Alaska, but should be getting into it again this winter, along with hogs for the first time. Hope I'm lucky w/ my little 10/22.
I tried hunting them w/ a 10/22 in 17HM2 a few years back. How disappointing. I got rid of that barrel QUICK!
My dad was telling me yesterday that he shot his limit of squirrels (10) during his hunt this past Monday morning. His first time ever. Before that, neither one of us had ever gotten past 6 or 7 apiece.
Most people I know with land don't want anyone hunting squirrels for fear they'll "mess up" their trophy deer hunting in October.
Sign of the times I'm afraid....
I'm afraid that ALL small game hunting is dying, probably for all the reasons listed above. You don't see many F&S articles on rabbit hunting either, but you used to in days gone by.
Harold
I'm an Iowa man, and I'll be up before commonly deemed sane to be going at the squirrels AND rabbits. You forgot to mention they open up Saturday too!
I didn't hunt squirrels last year but its on again for this year. A squirrel crapped on me the last day of deer season last year while I was sitting in my stand. I would go this weekend but I have a date to kill the giant winged rat(Can. Goose). I enjoy hunting alot of things but the killing of resident geese is probably the most satisfying to me.
I, like many others, first learned woodsmanship as a youngster chasing squirrels. The thing that now bugs me the most is the look you get from the non-hunters when you say you are going out after what I consider the tastiest of all wild game. I just smile and thimk about the next batch of stew made from "Chicken of the Tree".
I grew up in Florida hunting squirrels, rabbits and deer. We ate a lot of game back then to make ends meet and I just got burned out on eating small game. One year I bagged over 200 squirrels. Eastern Kansas is loaded with grey and fox squirrels and I haven't bumped into a squirrel hunter in many years.
Nothing has happened to squirrel hunting with me. I look forward to the first day with nearly as much anticipation as the first day of a big game season, getting immense pleasure and satisfaction from slipping thru the early fall woods with either a .22 rifle or my T/C Contender with either a .22 WMR or .410 barrel in place, or sitting on a hardwood ridge watching and listening to the life going on around me. There is no pressure as there is with big game, the game is still calm, the weather is beautiful, I revel in this season and time of the year. My wife makes a wonderful white squirrel gravy with fried or mashed potatoes and biscuits.
I shoot a lot of squirrels with my bow while deer hunting but wait until after our deer tags are full to harvest squirrels. My land is all hardwoods and is infested with squirrels. We shoot as many as we can and never seem to put a dent in the population. I hear they breed 4 times a year.
Deer definitely bites into my small game, but maybe for different reasons that generally illustrated above. I have a hard time justifying it in the early season, even though it is a lot of fun, becuase my freezer is out or just about out of venison and that's a staple of the house. Once the deer problem is taken care of I need to get my poor beagle on some rabbits, though he does get out a lot of Sundays during archery since hunting is closed in PA. Niether the rabbits nor the dog seem to be too concerned about my lack of a firearm. I decided last year to bring some blunt tips with me on stand in case the morning was slow and I just couldn't resist taking a shot at one of the resident bushytails. Both times the squirrel was already keyed in on me prior to release and both squirrels actively evaded the arrow, though one's leap left it fall off of the branch it was on. Agile little critters.
ChevJames is right. When all day Saturday and (gasp) Sunday is taken up with soccer practice (another un-American activity) and other team sports, neither Dad nor kids have time to hunt or fish. Another example of the pussification of the American male.
I killed too many squirrels to count as a kid. I hunted every afternoon and Saturdays. No hunting was allowed on Sundays by executive order of Mom. No huntable populations near me these days anyway.
One other thought. I can't think of anything finer that sneaking through the woods or sitting against a big oak with an accurate .22. I have an old kimber .22 that just begs to snipe the treetops. sigh
Zermoid,
PA changed the rules regarding carrying while archery hunting. You may now carry a handgun while archery hunting if you have a Concealed Carry License. I don't believe you may do the same using the Sportmans Firearm permit. I don't know that they specifically addressed taking a shot at small game legally harvested by firearms while archery hunting for big game. You should be aware though that the CC License is just that. No one's ever supposed to know you're carrying except for dire circumstances. I don't know that an overly curious squirrel qualifies. Happy hunting and good luck during archery. I live in WMU 5C so the early archery for me starts on the 19th.
My kind of hunting, walk a little (bad knees and hip) sit quietly a lot, maybe shoot a little. Spend a day in the woods, bring a sandwich and some water and enjoy the sounds and sights. And if I'm successful, it's not to hard packing out the catch.
I'd like to know if there is a National Wild Squirrel Federation, or a National Wild Cottontail Federation?
Zermoid,
From the PA regs.
Firearms - Handguns: A Sportsman’s Firearms permit or a License
to Carry Firearms is required to carry a handgun, or have in a motor
vehicle. Licenses to Carry Firearms permits are issued by county sheriffs
or the Philadelphia Chief of Police. The License to Carry Firearms
permit only entitles bowhunters or spotlighters, for instance, to
carry firearms that fall within this classification. County treasurers
issue Sportsman’s Firearms Permits. A person holding a Sportsman’s
Firearms Permit may not carry a concealed handgun or a loaded
handgun in a vehicle, and may not carry a handgun while
bowhunting or spotlighting.
I love to squirrel hunt and actually plan on going out this weekend and hunting them back home. I started squirrel hunting probably when I was six or seven and have been hunting every year since. My dad got busy with work as I got older so I used to go out many days after school either by myself or with my little brother and a lot of times we shoot our limit. Few people around home still hunt squirrel, but me and bunch of buddies in high school would go out a lot on weekends and hunt squirrel and by great-uncle, his grand son, and a few others actually set up a squirrel camp on some of my dads land each year and hunt squirrel for a week. Squirrel hunting is still a lot of fun for me and I wish I could do it more often, but its hard now that I'm in college, but you can be sure that if I get the change I'm going to be hunting them.
Squirrels were the number one game species in Louisiana for many years. Then deer became readily accessible state wide. At the same time most hardwoods in upland areas were poisoned or clearcut and replaced with pure pine plantations. Then tens of thousands of acres of riverbottom hardwoods were bulldozed for the soy bean craze in the 70's & 80's. Next came leasing for deer and with long deer seasons,many don't want to "disturb" the deer on their lease by squirrel hunting.
Unfortunately, many of the younger generation now think hunting is sitting in a box stand, watching a corn feeder and being bored spitless.
Isawooa,those are not castrated males. They are just juveniles, young of the year, who haven't hit puberty & developed the impressive jewels of their fathers.
Blue-
Good comment. Could be a viable theory. I was always told that the old boar squirrels castrated the young boars when they were mating in the spring. I have never personally seen this, but have heard a lot of squirrel screaming at times in the woods, and have killed several castrated squirrels.
One note on the cleaning of squirrels- they have glands under their front legs (kernels) that should be removed after skinning or the squirrel will taste gamy and rank. I believe that improper cleaning is the reason that a lot of people shy away from eating squirrel, and other types of game.
From the Minnesota Dept of Natural Resources on squirrel castration:
"This is not true. The legend that red squirrels castrate gray ones has been around a long time. It probably arose because gray squirrels retract their testicles into their abdominal cavity when it's not breeding season, so they might look like they're castrated."
Don't know one way or the other, just what DNR said.
"Chicken of the tree", PapaB? That's a good one!
You fellas make me hungry, talking about squirrel with gravy, fresh biscuits, grits, and fresh peas. When is suppertime?
Yeah I'm not buying the castrated squirrel theory...
A lot of people ate squirrel when there were no deer or turkeys. Now it is tough cleaning a small tree rat for dinner when you can kill a 200 pound animal with a bow soon. Of course I shoot them off my bird feeders just for practice, but to me squirrel season is just an excuse to take a day walking the woods with a .22 trying to find out where the deer are and getting away from the real world, if that's what you want to call it.
Wvotter, I'm assuming you are from West Virginia, I'm here in Eastern Ky. and Squirrel hunting used to be the Past time until deer or Grouse season opened. A few still hunt them here but it's been years since I have. Maybe I need get the .22 out and try it. I just have to walk from home and there are plenty of them...
beekeeper, here in Kentucky, our season starts Aug,15 also... When I was young, squirrel hunting was very popular, wasn't any deer then, but a lot of people still hunt them today.. No birds any more and deer getting thick now, Elk are getting to be the thing now but have to draw to hunt them. Maybe someday there will be an open season on elk and this year in the South Eastern counties next to Va. black bear season starts in Dec with 100 bears available, buy=t still plenty of squirrel just out the back door.
sorry, don,t know where that y= came in there, should have been But...Maybe there's a squirrel in my computer....
Ish - Because males will bite them off so only they can spread their genetics. I always assumed that that didn't really happen much at all, if ever.
I started out squirrel and dove hunting. I just got back into hunting deer after a 13 year break, not by choice of course. I went out last year and got a ruger 10/22 so that this squirrel season I could get back into that to.
With all due respect to everyone, and Minnesota Dept of Natural Resources, squirrel castration is not a legend. Don't know about the reds cutting the greys, but I have seen enough castrated animals to know the difference between a mature vs a young squirrel, and I know a scarred nut sac from retracted testicles. May not happen that often, but it does happen.
We dont have a squirrel season.That would be nice if we did,They are hell on wood duck boxes,And I bet they are tasty? Theres a neat little "how to remove squirrels from your deck" floating around the internet.it may bring a smile.
jcarlin,
Yeah, I do have a concealed carry license, and you don't need a license to carry openly in PA, so even if it's not fully concealed you are not "illegal" as far as I know. BTW, I live in 4D, and sometimes hunt in 4E as well.
That regulation really says nothing about USING the pistol for hunting. "The License to Carry Firearms
permit only entitles bowhunters or spotlighters, for instance, to carry firearms that fall within this classification." Within this classification? What does that mean? Is there a list of guns you may carry for defense? I've no idea........
Personally I have always carried a 1911 during bow season, legal or not. We got bears around here and I figure the 45 is low power for bears but better than an arrow if I get a bear POed at me! Figure a load of 9 rounds of 45 ACP should at least slow it down some, if not I carry 2 spare mags as well.
The regulation sounds like a "you can carry it but you can't use it" type of thing. Not sure but That's my take on it. At least now it sounds like if you are using a spotlight and have a defensive handgun on you it won't be illegal as long as you have a CWP.
I've always wondered why people buy the sportsmen's permit? It really does nothing not already covered by other laws, you still have to unload it before getting in your car, can't conceal it, so what's the use? According to the law it's already legal to carry a gun while hunting or fishing, so people shell out money for what? A piece of paper that says you can do the same things you can do without it? Makes no sense to me, I'd rather pay the money for the CWP that at least grants you some extra things you can do.
Let's face it, an empty gum makes a lousy weapon, ain't even worth much as a club or hatchet type weapon!
Hey, Thanks for the info, is it in the hunting book or did you find it online? Because I missed it.....
Wonko,
Lucky you, we aren't allowed to use semi's for hunting here, has to be manually operated. Which really irritates me, I got a military surplus SKS rifle (not one of the mass produced to export crap ones) that shoots about 2 inch groups at 100 yds with open sights, wish I could use it for deer season, shoots better than my Marlin 30-30 does! Add a scope and I got a great deer killer. Have actually considered converting it to single shot/manual rifle, All I'd have to do is take off the gas tube and have it welded shut to permanently make it manual. I talked to the game commission about that, simply removing the gas piston wouldn't suffice as you could put it back while in the woods, it would have to be permanently altered.
Not sure if I want to do that......
moishe, you will eat a duck, but not a squirrel???
Squirrel hunting is what I'm best at.The only problem is that there doesn't seem to be as many squirrels to hunt as there used to be.Unless I go down to the cahaba river, I don't even see one rabbit.Small game seems to be dissappearing around here.By the way I,m not new here on this forum--I just couldn't get my old name[redneck185]to work anymore.That name was also spread all over the net,but it wasn't me.
Moishe,fried squirrel tastes good!Squirrel brains taste better than pig brains.My dad grew up as a poor man and how many shells he had sometimes ment how much food was on the table.He never ate opossum,but he did eat more of the squirrel then I did---including the eyes.
Dr.Ralph, spoken like true Man from Tn. Here in E Ky. I just walk a little way to Tygart Creek and shoot as many squirrels as I want, just don't want any now, but they are there.
Dr. Ralph-
Can't believe in all your outdoor experience that you find squirrels difficult to clean! I
was raised using a two man cut and pull method, but now have a "squirrel skinner" in my hunting box that does the same as another person holding the squirrel. Average time for
a young squirrel, about 2-3 minutes. Also, I carry a pair of wire cutters to nip through leg bones, avoids nicking a knife blade.
Moishe-
If you've never tried fried young squirrel, or squirrel and dumplings made out of old squirrels, you need to give it a try. Make you throw rocks at dead yard bird!
My young son coming of age to begin going with me to the woods has reawakened the long buried squirrel slayer inside me that has lain dormant for the last 20 years. He gets bored in a shooting house but he loves tromping into the woods, settling down next to the bole of a big tree and waiting the five minutes it takes for the squirrel that hid from you when you walked in to lose his wits and make a run for it. "There he goes, Daddy. Get him! Get him!" Repeat the process every 30 minutes all morning and another hunter has joined our ranks. Season opens in Oct here in Alabama, I can't wait.
hey Green Pond mike...........head down hwy 5 to Oakmulgee WMA/Talledega Nat'l forest. more small game than you can shake a stick at, without the access problems of Cahaba WMA
"Guess folks are becoming too focused on trophies and bragging rights to appreciates such a nice past time?"
Squirrels don't come with big wall mounts, scores, record books, the latest gear, or fist pumps, so they aren't "cool" anymore.
Maybe this will help -
http://www.cooperfirearms.com/rifles.php?rifle_name=jsr
What do you shoot écureuil with, Bourjaily?
Squirrel season don't start here till Sept 14, but I'm eager to go after em. My choice of shootin iron is- A Savage 24 in .22 over .410. My land backs up against a big chunk o woods, I know the owner, he bought it for hunting and welcomes me there. Lookin forward to a good season.
i love hunting squirrel. they are fun, challenging at times, and best of all delicious.
Why I don’t Squirrel hunt, perhaps telling you my Wife is from California! LOL!
Sorry guy's I just cannot wrap my mind around eating a RODENT! Maybe if it was a case of starving I might. And I don't shoot anything I won't eat unless its trying to kill me, so I limit myself to Any Venison, Elk Dear Moose,Bison but don't care for Carabou and don't shoot them either, Pheasant Ducks and Quail is about it for me.
Zermoid ,AKs are cheap enough you could get another and modify the one EH?
I did not hope anyone would think I was against eating squirrels just not my choice, sarg, not real crazy about ducks don't shoot many, will give them to friends however, then they invite me over I will eat some.
Moishe, I can understand and appreciate your difficulty with eating (rodent). The animals you list as food are all perfectly kosher and you can't make a squirrel kosher, any more than you could make a javalina. Keep your ancestors faith and Mazel Tov for deer season.
Thank you Bella.
Thanks for the advice BamaHunter,I'll give it another try.I've been there before but was probably in the wrong spot for squirrels.
Some years I only get an opportunity to hunt deer, waterfowl, and Fall turkeys briefly by invite, but I go after those bushytails without fail every year. I am running into less and less competition!
Some great reading here need to go back and give all a +1
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I still squirrel hunt and rabbit too both are great ways to keep your skills honed while puttin meat on the table. My dad took me when I was a boy I used a single shot 20 ga. a couple yrs later I upgraded to a 12 ga. No problem with that. Shotguns are good squirrel guns with the right choke (Modified for me) and the right shot 7-1/2, 6 or 8's. As soon as my youngin is ready I'll take him out to find a bushy tail or ten.
I've got no objection to 22's but where I'm from Shotguns are the way to go.
I love to watch em run up and down trees and jump from branch to branch or tree to tree and listen to em bark nothin like it at all. They can entertain you any day in the woods.
anyone ever have squirrel dumplins or fried squirrel? Baked is good too with some mesquite. Mouths waterin.
First frost is good time to go. We can hunt em in June here too.
86Ram-
Was going to write something about shot gun squirrel hunters, then realized it was self explanatory. As to how to eat squirrels, read above post.
Well Sir, I am not alone on the squirrel dumplins.
A friend of mine recommended usin squirrel in brunswick stew in place of beef, lamb or chicken. I regret to say I haven't done that yet.
Might I ask about the shotgun comment? In some counties rifle hunting isn't permitted. I have hunted with a 22 pistol as well.
I mostly duck hunt, but look forward the most to roaming the woods squirrel hunting. I went this morning very late as a front came through during the night and I thought it would be too windy. I woke up and realized the wind wasn't so bad, so I went anyway. I live in SE Louisiana and the biggest problem right now is that the woods all over were destroyed by Katrina. It knocked down so many trees that the underbrush is now so thick you can hardly get in the woods. I still got to see two turkeys, one rabbit (I'd have had him if I had been carrying a shotgun) and a huge doe. Mostly I was exploring trying to find some patches of woods that weren't all screwed up. The other problem is that the season for me is mostly cut short because I don't go in the woods during deer season. I don't want to mess up anyone's deer hunt and I don't want to get shot.
The best hunt I ever had was with my son when he was 10 or 11 years old. We were hunting near each other - I couldn't see him but I could hear him wearing them out with his .22. I shot a few, but every time I heard that rifle crack I had a big sh*t eatin' grin on my face. He's been hunting with me since the age of 8 - mostly small game - ducks, rabbit, and squirrels and fishing too. I attribute hunting and fishing to the fact that he's grown up to be a pretty good kid.
Oh, and by the way, my favorite is a squirrel pie. Brown the meat, then put in a pressure cooker for 20 minutes and the meat falls off the bone. You only need one or two for a pie.
Deer, hogs, and turkey are the main part of concentration for most of Central Florida hunters. I have often thought of the idea but I really do not even have a rifle that is calibered for squirrel. My .270 would not leave a squirrel. Seems like it would be something fun to pick up.
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