


August 10, 2009
Camera-Shy Deer?
By Scott Bestul
I have a buddy who hates trail cameras. His main beef? He feels the flash and/or sound of the camera spooks the very deer he’s trying to scout. I’ve seen enough photos of bucks looking leery of —if not high-tailing it from—a camera to feel there is certainly something to my buddy’s claim. As another camera-phobic pal puts it; “How would you feel if you were taking a night-time stroll and someone shot a strobe at you from 15 feet?”
Naturally, many others view scouting cameras as a valuable tool in their scouting arsenal. They maintain that taking proper scent control measures will help keep deer from getting goosey, and that many, many bucks are not flash-shy at all. Indeed, I have multiple photos of a fine buck I “shot” last year that appeared to enjoy having his picture taken. Even with a one-minute delay between camera triggers, I would often get 3 or 4 pics of him at a single encounter.
Another factor to consider is that many of the newest cameras offer IR (infrared) technology, which softens the flash effect. I’ve used several of these this summer and have two basic operating theories on IR. First, infrared does not seem to alert deer to the degree that conventional flash units do. Second, I do not feel the picture quality is that great with an IR. As with so many things, there is almost always a trade-off.
So what does your experience show? Are you running into camera-shy deer? Do you think the process of setting out and monitoring a scouting camera is detrimental to your hunting efforts? Anxious to hear your thoughts.
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I certainly feel that a flash in the face at 10 feet in the dark of night will have some spooky effect on a buck, but like everything else, i think they learn what is a threat and what is not, and eventually will act accordingly. I have found often they will avoid the camera but not neccesarily the area. For instance, i get pics of him at 15 yds instead of 3. I have many point blank photos of bucks that come back for more. I do agree you need to cont rol your scent and not frequent the area too much as to pressure the deer though. What good is a picture of a buck you forced into the next county?
The first time a new deer experiences the trail cam he or she is usually spooked. However, I have noticed that the deer usually adjust quiet quickly. I have my cam located next to feed in the early and midsummer and there hasn't been a deer that has stopped coming in a result of the camera and you can see that after a certain amount of time the deer are used to the flash. The most interesting thing I have noticed, is the Racoons tend to agitate the deer much more than the trail cam, I have a few pics with 10 raccoons trying to get at the same corn pile a a nice 8 point and by the 4th or 5th photo, he tries to stomp them.
I've gotten too many photos like the one above to have a good opinion of trail cameras. Not to mention the scent trail left going to and from the camera to obtain photos. Even a good photo of a buck doesn't tell you where he came from or where he's going.
I scout the old fashion way, a good pair of boots and a good pair off binoculars
I'VE TAKEN THOUSANDS OF PHOTOS AROUND MY PROPERTY WITH THE INEXPENSIVE MOULTRIE CAMERAS, BEEN USING THEM FOR PAST 4 YEARS. NEVER HAD A PROBLEM SPOOKING THE DEER. MANY TIMES I'VE HAD DEER WALK UP TO THE CAMERAS AND GET A POINT BLANK PICTURE OF THEM!THE ONLY TIMES I'VE EVER GOTTEN A PIC OF A SPOOKED DEER I'VE GOT A PIC OF A COYOTE OR TWO A MINUTE LATER.
My next hunting purchase is gonna be a trail cam w/ IR. I've done good w/o one, but I think it will definitely help my hunting. My hunting ground is covered w/ATV trails, which the deer use like highways, so I think checking the cam will cause minimal disturbance to the deer. They're already quite used to quads coming through all the time. I actually could've shot 2 does last year on my way back to the ATV, they were standing right next to it.
With whitetails it's hard to make a blanket statement as to whether something is ultimately good or bad. If you're hunting big bucks on public land, which I feel is the double black diamond of bowhunting, then trail camera's are a no, no. If you own a full section of hunting property that you can manage then trail cameras are probably an awesome tool. The reality is that most of us are somewhere in between those two extremes and trail cameras may or may not be a great idea. It takes effort to determine what works and what doesn't. And if something works for you it may not work for the guy down the road. How's that for straddling the fence?
I've seen one to many big bucks that we've never spotted just show up and take a lick of our salt block and just stare at the camera to believe in camera shy.
Several times my cam has taken a pic of small buck(s) and in the background there is a big buck that is hanging back. Also have gotten some nice ones that did not seem to be bothered by the cam. Last fall just as the rut was starting I place a basket of apples on the ground by a huge rub and in 2 nights got good pics of three different 10 point bucks and two 8 pts. A cold front came thru and really seemed to get the deer moving.
deer are used to lightning so i dont see how a flash would scare em, but if a camera made a noise that would surely scare em.
I agree with Buckhunter-- and I add, the more you waltz through your hunting spot the more you'll be looked for.
I am new to using trail cams this year, but I have already seen a few bucks stay in front of the camera long enough to get 2 or 3 pics each a minute apart. When I see trail cam pics of running deer how do I know that they are running from the camera and that they were not running through the area and then the pic was taken? I know that not all cameras have a very fast trigger, but it is still very possible. Maybe the camera is not what made them run.
I have hunted in a handfull of stands that had trail cameras placed close to them before and during the season. I have yet to see them affect the deer. In fact, many times, I have had deer walk out near dusk or just after and walk by the cameras, get a flash in the face and pay no attention to it. I would think a deer that is new to trail-cameras would get a little spooked by it, but after a few flashes, I believe they get used to it and no longer care about it.
I think most deer equate the flash with lightening ... after the flash goes off,I think they are waiting for the thunder.
Deer in my neck of the woods, aren't the least shy,matter of fact they seem to be posing. I had one buck that liked to lick the camera!
I was watching a video last night, of two deer below a deer stand, when one of them experienced flatulence,and made the usual sound. The deer behind the one, with the accumalated gas, took a flying leap, like the one on your trail-cam ...alarmed by the noise.
If it had been a still-shot,no one would have known what effected the alarmed deer to react as it did,causing the casual observer to surmise that the flash was the culprit,instead of the loud noise of the gas passer.
ive used them cameras for quite a while now and in one spot where theres alot of deer all the time,i got alot of pictures of deer hanging around ,and i left the camera there longer pretty soon that spot went dead and never hardly got another deer on it,then the next year i didnt set a camera there and and the deer hung around all the time with out disaperaing, ever ,the next year i set it there again and got alot of pictures of deer but pretty soon i wasnt getting any again after a while,i done this more then once to. i think the deer no whats up and slowly disapeared .i know when the camera wasnt there over a period i seen deer there all the time ,when it was there working they slow disapeared,,just my opinion i always thought the flash scred them off too
i do know that deer act different in different spots ,i know one spot where there not very spooky and another spot not very far away and a bigger set of woods the deer spook real easy and all they smell on me is earth scent ive seen this more then once to hunting in both these spots and i know the eather scent works if its used right because ive had deer so mny times on all sides of me and not spook and i wasnt very high,and i have had coyotes walk down my trail smelling it and not get spooked,and i dont care who believes this but if you can fool a coyotes nose ever ,when you walk to a tree stand like that. then you can fool any white tail alive,
i have seen coyotes running full blast by my tree before with there head up, and when i wasnt using any thing on my feet like that they turned on a dime so fast and got out of there and there nose wasnt near the ground,i hunt where there is alot of coyotes,when ya can fool a coyote ya will fool some thing else easier
I have never found or heard, from friends that use trail cameras about deer or hogs or wildlife in general that get spooked by a game camera.
I can agree and disagree with deer being spooked by deer cameras. I can see where at night a flash will spook a deer and cause it to be more alert, but on the other hand we have had many pictures of bucks at night, and they keep coming back on there normal schedule at night. We have many pictures of the same buck at night about the same time every night. If it is the flash that you don't want to spook your deer you should consider getting a deer camera that doesn't have a flash. Click here to check out our great selection of deer cameras!
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I've gotten too many photos like the one above to have a good opinion of trail cameras. Not to mention the scent trail left going to and from the camera to obtain photos. Even a good photo of a buck doesn't tell you where he came from or where he's going.
I scout the old fashion way, a good pair of boots and a good pair off binoculars
The first time a new deer experiences the trail cam he or she is usually spooked. However, I have noticed that the deer usually adjust quiet quickly. I have my cam located next to feed in the early and midsummer and there hasn't been a deer that has stopped coming in a result of the camera and you can see that after a certain amount of time the deer are used to the flash. The most interesting thing I have noticed, is the Racoons tend to agitate the deer much more than the trail cam, I have a few pics with 10 raccoons trying to get at the same corn pile a a nice 8 point and by the 4th or 5th photo, he tries to stomp them.
With whitetails it's hard to make a blanket statement as to whether something is ultimately good or bad. If you're hunting big bucks on public land, which I feel is the double black diamond of bowhunting, then trail camera's are a no, no. If you own a full section of hunting property that you can manage then trail cameras are probably an awesome tool. The reality is that most of us are somewhere in between those two extremes and trail cameras may or may not be a great idea. It takes effort to determine what works and what doesn't. And if something works for you it may not work for the guy down the road. How's that for straddling the fence?
Several times my cam has taken a pic of small buck(s) and in the background there is a big buck that is hanging back. Also have gotten some nice ones that did not seem to be bothered by the cam. Last fall just as the rut was starting I place a basket of apples on the ground by a huge rub and in 2 nights got good pics of three different 10 point bucks and two 8 pts. A cold front came thru and really seemed to get the deer moving.
I have never found or heard, from friends that use trail cameras about deer or hogs or wildlife in general that get spooked by a game camera.
I certainly feel that a flash in the face at 10 feet in the dark of night will have some spooky effect on a buck, but like everything else, i think they learn what is a threat and what is not, and eventually will act accordingly. I have found often they will avoid the camera but not neccesarily the area. For instance, i get pics of him at 15 yds instead of 3. I have many point blank photos of bucks that come back for more. I do agree you need to cont rol your scent and not frequent the area too much as to pressure the deer though. What good is a picture of a buck you forced into the next county?
I'VE TAKEN THOUSANDS OF PHOTOS AROUND MY PROPERTY WITH THE INEXPENSIVE MOULTRIE CAMERAS, BEEN USING THEM FOR PAST 4 YEARS. NEVER HAD A PROBLEM SPOOKING THE DEER. MANY TIMES I'VE HAD DEER WALK UP TO THE CAMERAS AND GET A POINT BLANK PICTURE OF THEM!THE ONLY TIMES I'VE EVER GOTTEN A PIC OF A SPOOKED DEER I'VE GOT A PIC OF A COYOTE OR TWO A MINUTE LATER.
My next hunting purchase is gonna be a trail cam w/ IR. I've done good w/o one, but I think it will definitely help my hunting. My hunting ground is covered w/ATV trails, which the deer use like highways, so I think checking the cam will cause minimal disturbance to the deer. They're already quite used to quads coming through all the time. I actually could've shot 2 does last year on my way back to the ATV, they were standing right next to it.
I've seen one to many big bucks that we've never spotted just show up and take a lick of our salt block and just stare at the camera to believe in camera shy.
deer are used to lightning so i dont see how a flash would scare em, but if a camera made a noise that would surely scare em.
I agree with Buckhunter-- and I add, the more you waltz through your hunting spot the more you'll be looked for.
I am new to using trail cams this year, but I have already seen a few bucks stay in front of the camera long enough to get 2 or 3 pics each a minute apart. When I see trail cam pics of running deer how do I know that they are running from the camera and that they were not running through the area and then the pic was taken? I know that not all cameras have a very fast trigger, but it is still very possible. Maybe the camera is not what made them run.
I have hunted in a handfull of stands that had trail cameras placed close to them before and during the season. I have yet to see them affect the deer. In fact, many times, I have had deer walk out near dusk or just after and walk by the cameras, get a flash in the face and pay no attention to it. I would think a deer that is new to trail-cameras would get a little spooked by it, but after a few flashes, I believe they get used to it and no longer care about it.
I think most deer equate the flash with lightening ... after the flash goes off,I think they are waiting for the thunder.
Deer in my neck of the woods, aren't the least shy,matter of fact they seem to be posing. I had one buck that liked to lick the camera!
I was watching a video last night, of two deer below a deer stand, when one of them experienced flatulence,and made the usual sound. The deer behind the one, with the accumalated gas, took a flying leap, like the one on your trail-cam ...alarmed by the noise.
If it had been a still-shot,no one would have known what effected the alarmed deer to react as it did,causing the casual observer to surmise that the flash was the culprit,instead of the loud noise of the gas passer.
ive used them cameras for quite a while now and in one spot where theres alot of deer all the time,i got alot of pictures of deer hanging around ,and i left the camera there longer pretty soon that spot went dead and never hardly got another deer on it,then the next year i didnt set a camera there and and the deer hung around all the time with out disaperaing, ever ,the next year i set it there again and got alot of pictures of deer but pretty soon i wasnt getting any again after a while,i done this more then once to. i think the deer no whats up and slowly disapeared .i know when the camera wasnt there over a period i seen deer there all the time ,when it was there working they slow disapeared,,just my opinion i always thought the flash scred them off too
i have seen coyotes running full blast by my tree before with there head up, and when i wasnt using any thing on my feet like that they turned on a dime so fast and got out of there and there nose wasnt near the ground,i hunt where there is alot of coyotes,when ya can fool a coyote ya will fool some thing else easier
I can agree and disagree with deer being spooked by deer cameras. I can see where at night a flash will spook a deer and cause it to be more alert, but on the other hand we have had many pictures of bucks at night, and they keep coming back on there normal schedule at night. We have many pictures of the same buck at night about the same time every night. If it is the flash that you don't want to spook your deer you should consider getting a deer camera that doesn't have a flash. Click here to check out our great selection of deer cameras!
i do know that deer act different in different spots ,i know one spot where there not very spooky and another spot not very far away and a bigger set of woods the deer spook real easy and all they smell on me is earth scent ive seen this more then once to hunting in both these spots and i know the eather scent works if its used right because ive had deer so mny times on all sides of me and not spook and i wasnt very high,and i have had coyotes walk down my trail smelling it and not get spooked,and i dont care who believes this but if you can fool a coyotes nose ever ,when you walk to a tree stand like that. then you can fool any white tail alive,
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